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1974-06-19 - Plan Commission - Minutes WORKSHOP SESSION BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION 7-Eleven and Fire Station June 19, 1974 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8 :17 p.m. , June 19, 1974, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Harris Mr. Haarr Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Gamm Mr. Keister Mr. Mendenhall Commissioners Absent: Mr. Shields Also Present : Mr. Bill Balling Mr. Richard Heinrich, Zoning Board of Appeals Mr. Scott Davidson, 7-Eleven Mr. James A. Moroney, 7-Eleven Fire Chief Winter Mr. Raymond W. Knoeppel, Fire Station Mr. James T. Ryan, Fire Station 7-Eleven Chairman Genrich stated the Plan Commission was not aware of the developer having problems in getting this project started and assumed this is not a point of irritation. Mr. Scott Davidson, Area Construction Coordinator, stated they would like to start going on the project as soon as possible. Mr. Davidson passed out site plans to the Commission. He inquired if they will be able to proceed without talking to Barton-Stull, as the developer owns the property in the site plan. When this was originally approved it was approved as a PUD. Chairman Genrich stated it is a question of what the annexation agreement says. Mr. Davidson stated the developers had a meeting in April with Mr. Seaberg, Mr. Balling and Mr. Dettmer. They went over things they would have to do to come in for a building permit. According to the MSD survey the sewer and water are 600 ft. away from the property. The developer would like to go ahead and put the store up now as they have owned the property for three years and have been paying taxes on it. Commissioner Mendenhall inquired how far back off the highway the store will be. Mr. Davidson replied 90 ft. off the property line. Plan Commission Page 2 6/19/74 Mr. Davidson stated no curb is on the north side of the parking lot because they wanted two driveways . Commissioner Harris stated the driveway had to be narrowed to 25 ft. according to Village ordinance. Commissioner Harris inquired how they would handle detention of storm water. Mr. Davidson stated their engineer is working with the MSD people now on plans for this to be done on site. Commissioner Mendenhall stated with a center median the driveway could be approximately 25 ft. on each side. He added the front of the store could be more attractive with less paving. Mr. Davidson stated this is needed to meet the parking requirements . Commissioner Mendenhall added anything that could break up the massive sea of asphalt would be helpful. Commissioner Mendenhall stated the south side of the building may need a fire lane according to the originally based discussions on this project. He requested the developer to check with Fire Chief Winter on this. Mr. Davidson stated a redwood fence would be on the south side of the property that is 6 ft. high. Commissioner Mendenhall stated they will need a variance to have a 6 ft. fence. Commissioner Harris stated they are required to have live screening according to the new ordinance. A fence could be used in addition to the screening. This buffer zone is required to be 6 ft. high when planted. Commissioner Goldspiel inquired what the distance was from the southeast corner of the building to the nearest property line. Mr. Davidson stated 31 feet. Commissioner Haarr stated according to ordinance, the developer will need 19 parking spaces . Mr. Davidson stated 8 to 10 spaces would be adequate for the store itself. Commissioner Gamm stated this store is only 1-1/2 miles from the Arlington Heights Road and Dundee Road 7-Eleven Store. Mr. Davidson stated they do not build their stores closer than 3/4 of a mile together. Mr. James A. Moroney, Real Estate Representative of 7-Eleven Food Stores stated the density of this area is expected to increase. He added this business has a turnover of personnel which has more to do with the store than just its location. Commissioner Gamm stated the store may suffer from neglect if this business is not good. Mr. Moroney stated the owners would want to keep the image of the store and, also, the Village will supervise inspections . Plan Commission Page 3 6/19/74 Commissioner Goldspiel inquired the height of the building. Mr. Davidson replied 13 ft. . Commissioner Harris stated the Plan Commission will require a plat of survey in accordance with the Subdivision Regulations . He added the Plan Commission must approve the site plan and the plat of survey. Commissioner Keister stated he is interested in how they will solve the refuse situation as access roads are not available. Commissioner Mendenhall inquired if the developer would be willing to enter an agreement so this would not be operated on a 24-hour basis . Mr. Moroney stated the store would be operated for the convenience of the customer, and this often requires 24-hour operation. If there is no requirement for the 24-hour business, there will be none. Commissioner Mendenhall stated the residential area would not be happy with this type of situation. Mr. Moroney added this is an installa- tion that will be under the Village 's supervision. Commissioner Keister inquired if this is the only architecture 7-Eleven is putting up today. Mr. Davidson stated it was in this area, but they could go colonial if needed. Chairman Genrich stated the Plan Commission has no objection for this store going ahead with development. They would prefer in the context of the PUD that there not be a curb where it joins the rest of the development. The following requests were given in summarization: 1. Resolve how you will handle flood control. (Meet with Village Staff) . 2 . The Plan Commission would prefer the Fire Department to review developer's plans. 3. Review the suggestion for a lower turn-off apron. (Meet with Village Staff) . 4. Try to resolve the parking space problem and come up with 19 spaces . (Meet with Village Staff) . 5. The curb cut can only be 25 ft. . (Meet with Village Staff) . 6. The ordinance requires adjacent to the residential area 6 ft. high plantings, l2 ft. wide. (See Ordinance 74-2) . 7. Resolve the trash problem. (Meet with Village Staff) . 8. The Village requires all developers to go to the Appearance Commission for review of building and landscaping. (Mr. Davidson stated they are scheduled to meet with them next week) . 9. The Subdivision Control Ordinance identifies what needs to be on the site plan (lot lines are needed) , and this will be needed by the Plan Commission 10 days before the developer meets with them. Also, the Commission will need a plat of survey. Plan Commission Page 4 6/19/74 Fire Station Mr. James Ryan, attorney, stated he represented the Wheeling Township Rural Fire Protection District. He requested plan approval of the final plan. The plans have been checked and approved by Mr. Seaberg. He stated there have been some revisions which are indicated by insertions on the plans. He stressed a sense of urgency in this matter as the matter of the strikes have held up construction. Completion of the station at this time is expected to be in late January or February of next year. Mr. Knoeppel, architect, stated they want to get the building enclosed before the bad weather sets in. He added the architect for this project is Hattis Associates, but he is employed in a supervisory capacity. He added Mr. Seaberg has approved the plan specifications . The building is set back 189 feet from the center of Dundee Road. A storm retention pond will be on the center of the property. Mr. Knoeppel stated they are having problems finishing the plans because of various elevations on Dundee Road and the precise locations of the utility easements . The Workshop Session closed at 9:55 p.m. . Respectfully submitted, N reeborn Recording Secretary APPROVED: Carl Genrich, Chairman PRELIMINARY MINUTES - NOT APPROVED Corrected and Revised 7/24/74 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Fire Station June 19, 1974 Chairman Carl Genrich called the Regular Meeting to order at �.J 9:56 p.m. . Commissioners Present: Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Harris Mr. Haarr Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Gamm Mr. Keister Mr. Mendenhall Commissioners Absent: Mr. Shields Also Present : Mr. Bill Balling Mr. Richard Heinrich, Zoning Board of Appeals Mr. Raymond W. Knoeppel, Fire Station Mr. James T. Ryan, Fire Station Fire Station Commissioner Mendenhall moved the Plan Commission approve the Fire Station site plan as presented dated February 1, 1974 and revised March 26, 1974 and Commissioner Haarr seconded. Upon vote, the motion carried. Commissioner Goldspiel abstained. Commissioner Haarr requested that it be brought to the attention of the Village Board that a final plat had not been received. Commissioner Haarr informed Mr. Ryan and Mr. Knoeppel that by ordinance building permits cannot be issued until final plat has been approved by the Plan Commission and the Village Board. Chairman Genrich stated if the developers plan to meet with the Plan Commission on July 10, the Commission would like final plat information by the end of the month. Sharing Responsibilities - Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals Commissioner Harris moved to recommend to the Board to make the necessary changes to the existing Village Ordinances to effect the following report: Commissioner Keister seconded the motion. The subcommittee appointed from the Zoning Board of Appeals and Plan Commission Page 2 6/19/74 the Plan Commission consists of Mr. Stan Haarr, Mr. Burt Harris , Mr. Richard Heinrich and Mr. Edward Mashek. The Committee decided that a recommendation be made to the Village Board that the following functions become the areas of responsi- bilities of the Zoning Board of Appeals : 1. All Special Use requests other than Planned Unit Developments . 2. Within residential districts, all rezoning from a less restrictive to a more restrictive (such as R-7 to R-2) . 3. Any rezoning within the categories of R-1 through R-6, single family zoning districts (such as R-2 to R-5) . 4. Rezoning from B-2 to B-1. Upon discussion, Commissioner Mendenhall stated he would be in favor of giving the ZBA more power. Commissioner Haarr stated if this was going to happen, this would be the worst he could live with. Commissioner Goldspiel inquired why take large segments of the planning function out of the Plan Commission. Commissioner Mendenhall stated the ZBA did not have enough to keep them really busy. Further discussion followed. The following vote was taken: Commissioner Harris Yes Commissioner Haarr No Commissioner Keister Yes Commissioner Goldspiel No Commissioner Gamm Yes Commissioner Mendenhall Yes Motion carried. Roll Call Vote Commissioner Haarr moved that the Plan Commission by policy take roll call votes in order of seniority and Commissioner Keister seconded. The correct roll call order is Chairman Genrich, Commissioners Haarr, Mendenhall, Gamm, Harris, Keister, Shields and Goldspiel. Upon vote, the motion carried. Commissioner Goldspiel abstained. Winston Square - Phase I Plat of Dedication In reviewing the Winston Square Phase I Plat of Dedication, Chairman Genrich stated at the meeting of July 10 he would like someone from the school involved present and a representative from Centex to be present for further consideration of the document. Plan Commission Page 3 6/19/74 Commissioner Haarr brought to the Commission's attention that things which have been approved by the Plan Commission have been changed when they leave the Plan Commission and go to the Village Board. He stated the Plan Commission representative present at the Village Board meetings should have copies of approved plats with them when final approval is being considered. Discussion followed. The meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m. . Respectfully submitted, N. reeborn Recording Secretary APPROVED: edem" I Carl Genrich, Chairman