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1974-12-18 - Plan Commission - Minutes II WORKSHOP SESSION BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Simpson and Goldin Properties December 18, 1974 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 9:45 p.m. , December 18, 1974, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Blvd. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Haarr Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Jacobs Commissioners Absent: Mr. Gamm Mr. Harris Mr. Mendenhall Also Present: Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer Mr. Neil J. King, Realtor Mr. James Ray, Architect Mr. and Mrs. William Simpson, Property Owners Simpson and Goldin Properties Mr. King introduced Mr. and Mrs. William Simpson who are involved with the possible construction of a commercial shopping center at the Southeast corner of Buffalo Grove and Dundee Roads. He also introduced Mr. James Ray who is the architect designing the shopping center. Mr. Ray stated that the major store would be a Kohl's food store. He also mentioned the possibility of a drug store and hardware store adjoining it. He said that after a good deal of study of the site they have decided that the stores should be fronting on Dundee Road. The plans show parking for 275 cars. There is an unmountable median strip on Buffalo Grove Road which they hope they would be allowed to break through. He also stated that while the area of the shops or stores may increase, they will never increase over a 3 to 1 ratio. Mr. King stated that the Simpsons did not own the 45 foot strip of property on the corner of Buffalo Grove and Dundee Roads. That property is in the county and owned by someone else. They have been negotiating with the owner to exchange it for the easterly 52 feet. The property owned by the Simpsons was annexed into the Village the same time Cambridge was. The Buffalo Grove Park District has some of the property next to the site. Mr. and Mrs. Simpson owned that land also before selling it to the Park District. Plan Commission Page 2 12/18/74 Because Kohl's would like to break ground in March and have a November opening, they are willing to go ahead and go before the various boards but will have to hold off on permission to annex and zone the property. Mr. King said he is confident there will be no problem with annexation or zoning. He hoped that he could get final plat approval and still be vague as to square feet because the Simpson land is already zoned commercially. Mr. Goldspiel said he was disturbed by the possibility that someone would take approval of this property as being approval on the 52 foot strip. Mr. Jacobs stated that the approval would have to be given with certain conditions being met. Mr. Genrich asked that they come back for the Workshop Session on January 15 and it would give the Plan Commission time to look further into it. He would like to know what the building would look like. He did not feel that the Commission could give any constructive comments at this time. Mr. Ray stated that he would bring some alternative sketches of what the building might look like. Commissioner Keister agreed to look into the matter of the 45 foot strip to see what the county zoning is for this property and what the conditions for development on the property within that use under county zoning might be. The meeting adjourned at 10:40 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, inda Isonhart Recording Secretary Approved: Carl Genrich, Chairman Corrected 2/5/75 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION December 18, 1974 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:30 p.m. , December 18, 1974, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Blvd. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Haarr Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Jacobs Commissioners Absent: Mr. Gamm Mr. Harris Mr. Mendenhall Also Present: Mr. Arnold Seaberg of Minutes Approvali s e Commissioner Keister moved to approve the minutes of December 4, 1974, and Commissioner Haarr seconded. The motion carried that the minutes be approved subject to the following changes: Correction of the spelling of Mr. Haarr's name; Page 2, paragraph 1, should be changed to read as follows: "A motion was made by Commissioner Haarr to recommend to the Mayor and Village Board that Mr. Genrich be reappointed for another year to the Plan Commission. It was a unanimous vote."; Page 2, paragraph 4, the word "would" is to be changed to "should". Communications Mr. Genrich stated that he received a memo from Mr. Balling dated December 17, which refers to a staff report on Village planning functions and a revised plan for reviewing Village fees. Mr. Genrich is concerned that they went directly to the Board with this and will have a memo out at an early date regarding this. He feels the Plan Commission should be a participant in the decision. Committee and Liaison Reports Mr. Genrich stated that he attended the Board Meeting of December 9th where the staff had requested the Northeastern Illinois Planning Commission to send someone out to outline for the Village Board the Federal Planning Act for 1974-1975 and suggests that planning assistance money could be obtained through this procedure. Plan Commission Page 2 12/18/74 Lieberman Building Commissioner Haarr raised a question concerning the walkway and turnaround bay on the final plans of the Lieberman Building. He was wondering if they were shown on the approved plans. After a discussion as to the need of a walkway or turnaround bay, Mr. Goldspiel stated that he felt that any deviation from the plan approved is the main consideration. Mr. Genrich stated that the Plan Commission is concerned that we have a practice in the Village that building permits are only issued in concurrence with officially adopted development plans of the Village. Mr. Keister agreed to represent the Plan Commission in the investigation of the Lieberman matter further in resolving it insofar as possible with the Village Inspector and the Village staff. Mr. Haarr made a motion that the Commission Secretary obtain from the Village Board files the copy of the final annexation agreement and the exhibits officially approved by the Village Board be obtained and that we have them at our meeting of January 8 for our review and consideration. Sharing Responsibilities - Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals Commissioner Haarr made a motion to disapprove . the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance as to the transfer of duties from the Plan Commission to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Commissioner Goldspiel seconded the motion. A roll call vote was taken and the motion did not carry. Mr. Jacobs then made the motion to recommend to the Village Board the approval of transfer of powers. The motion read as follows: The Plan Commission recommends to the Village Board the approval of transfer of powers as delineated from the Plan Commission to the Board of Zoning Appeals. We recommend approval but request that the Village Board allow the Plan Commission to review and comment upon the final ordinance transferring this power before enactment. We request these powers to be subject to the granting to the Plan Commission powers of review and comment on these designated zoning changes and special uses prior to final enactment ay the Village Board. Mr. Keister seconded and the vote followed: Commissioner Haarr: No Commissioner Keister: Yes Commissioner Goldspiel: No Commissioner Shields: Yes Commissioner Jacobs: Yes The motion carried. Mr. Haarr and Mr. Goldspiel submitted a Minority Report. Plan Commission Page 3 12/18/74 The regular meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, L nda Isonhart Recording Secretary Approved: Carl Genrich, Chairman PRELIMINARY MINUTES - NOT APPROVED MINORITY REPORT In order to insure consistent development and implementation of the Master Plan, there should be only one body with jurisdiction over general planning policy and land use change proposals. We feel that the proposed erratic division of responsibility between the Plan Commission and the Zoning Board of Appeals is not logical, would leave gaps in responsibility for the planning function, create confusion for people dealing with the Village and, therefore, is not in the best interest of Buffalo Grove. Stan Haarr, Vice Chairman Stephen Goldspiel, Commissioner