1974-12-18 - Plan Commission - Minutes II
WORKSHOP SESSION
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Simpson and Goldin Properties
December 18, 1974
Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 9:45 p.m. ,
December 18, 1974, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Blvd.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich
Mr. Haarr
Mr. Keister
Mr. Shields
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Jacobs
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Gamm
Mr. Harris
Mr. Mendenhall
Also Present: Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer
Mr. Neil J. King, Realtor
Mr. James Ray, Architect
Mr. and Mrs. William Simpson, Property Owners
Simpson and Goldin Properties
Mr. King introduced Mr. and Mrs. William Simpson who are involved with
the possible construction of a commercial shopping center at the
Southeast corner of Buffalo Grove and Dundee Roads. He also introduced
Mr. James Ray who is the architect designing the shopping center.
Mr. Ray stated that the major store would be a Kohl's food store. He
also mentioned the possibility of a drug store and hardware store
adjoining it. He said that after a good deal of study of the site they
have decided that the stores should be fronting on Dundee Road. The
plans show parking for 275 cars. There is an unmountable median strip
on Buffalo Grove Road which they hope they would be allowed to break
through. He also stated that while the area of the shops or stores may
increase, they will never increase over a 3 to 1 ratio.
Mr. King stated that the Simpsons did not own the 45 foot strip of
property on the corner of Buffalo Grove and Dundee Roads. That property
is in the county and owned by someone else. They have been negotiating
with the owner to exchange it for the easterly 52 feet. The property
owned by the Simpsons was annexed into the Village the same time
Cambridge was. The Buffalo Grove Park District has some of the property
next to the site. Mr. and Mrs. Simpson owned that land also before
selling it to the Park District.
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Because Kohl's would like to break ground in March and have a November
opening, they are willing to go ahead and go before the various boards
but will have to hold off on permission to annex and zone the property.
Mr. King said he is confident there will be no problem with annexation
or zoning. He hoped that he could get final plat approval and still
be vague as to square feet because the Simpson land is already zoned
commercially.
Mr. Goldspiel said he was disturbed by the possibility that someone
would take approval of this property as being approval on the 52 foot
strip. Mr. Jacobs stated that the approval would have to be given with
certain conditions being met.
Mr. Genrich asked that they come back for the Workshop Session on January 15
and it would give the Plan Commission time to look further into it.
He would like to know what the building would look like. He did not
feel that the Commission could give any constructive comments at this
time. Mr. Ray stated that he would bring some alternative sketches of
what the building might look like.
Commissioner Keister agreed to look into the matter of the 45 foot strip
to see what the county zoning is for this property and what the
conditions for development on the property within that use under
county zoning might be.
The meeting adjourned at 10:40 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
inda Isonhart
Recording Secretary
Approved:
Carl Genrich, Chairman
Corrected 2/5/75
REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
December 18, 1974
Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:30 p.m. ,
December 18, 1974, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Blvd.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich
Mr. Haarr
Mr. Keister
Mr. Shields
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Jacobs
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Gamm
Mr. Harris
Mr. Mendenhall
Also Present: Mr. Arnold Seaberg
of Minutes Approvali s e
Commissioner Keister moved to approve the minutes of December 4, 1974,
and Commissioner Haarr seconded. The motion carried that the minutes be
approved subject to the following changes: Correction of the spelling
of Mr. Haarr's name; Page 2, paragraph 1, should be changed to read as
follows: "A motion was made by Commissioner Haarr to recommend to the
Mayor and Village Board that Mr. Genrich be reappointed for another year
to the Plan Commission. It was a unanimous vote."; Page 2, paragraph 4,
the word "would" is to be changed to "should".
Communications
Mr. Genrich stated that he received a memo from Mr. Balling dated
December 17, which refers to a staff report on Village planning functions
and a revised plan for reviewing Village fees. Mr. Genrich is concerned
that they went directly to the Board with this and will have a memo
out at an early date regarding this. He feels the Plan Commission should
be a participant in the decision.
Committee and Liaison Reports
Mr. Genrich stated that he attended the Board Meeting of December 9th
where the staff had requested the Northeastern Illinois Planning
Commission to send someone out to outline for the Village Board the
Federal Planning Act for 1974-1975 and suggests that planning assistance
money could be obtained through this procedure.
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Lieberman Building
Commissioner Haarr raised a question concerning the walkway and turnaround
bay on the final plans of the Lieberman Building. He was wondering if
they were shown on the approved plans. After a discussion as to the need
of a walkway or turnaround bay, Mr. Goldspiel stated that he felt that
any deviation from the plan approved is the main consideration.
Mr. Genrich stated that the Plan Commission is concerned that we have
a practice in the Village that building permits are only issued in
concurrence with officially adopted development plans of the Village.
Mr. Keister agreed to represent the Plan Commission in the investigation
of the Lieberman matter further in resolving it insofar as possible with
the Village Inspector and the Village staff.
Mr. Haarr made a motion that the Commission Secretary obtain from the
Village Board files the copy of the final annexation agreement and the
exhibits officially approved by the Village Board be obtained and that
we have them at our meeting of January 8 for our review and consideration.
Sharing Responsibilities - Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals
Commissioner Haarr made a motion to disapprove . the amendment to the
Zoning Ordinance as to the transfer of duties from the Plan Commission
to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Commissioner Goldspiel seconded the
motion. A roll call vote was taken and the motion did not carry.
Mr. Jacobs then made the motion to recommend to the Village Board the
approval of transfer of powers. The motion read as follows:
The Plan Commission recommends to the Village Board the
approval of transfer of powers as delineated from the Plan
Commission to the Board of Zoning Appeals.
We recommend approval but request that the Village Board
allow the Plan Commission to review and comment upon the
final ordinance transferring this power before enactment.
We request these powers to be subject to the granting to the
Plan Commission powers of review and comment on these designated
zoning changes and special uses prior to final enactment ay
the Village Board.
Mr. Keister seconded and the vote followed:
Commissioner Haarr: No
Commissioner Keister: Yes
Commissioner Goldspiel: No
Commissioner Shields: Yes
Commissioner Jacobs: Yes
The motion carried. Mr. Haarr and Mr. Goldspiel submitted a Minority
Report.
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The regular meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
L nda Isonhart
Recording Secretary
Approved:
Carl Genrich, Chairman
PRELIMINARY MINUTES - NOT APPROVED
MINORITY REPORT
In order to insure consistent development and implementation
of the Master Plan, there should be only one body with
jurisdiction over general planning policy and land
use change proposals. We feel that the proposed erratic
division of responsibility between the Plan Commission
and the Zoning Board of Appeals is not logical, would
leave gaps in responsibility for the planning function,
create confusion for people dealing with the Village
and, therefore, is not in the best interest of Buffalo Grove.
Stan Haarr, Vice Chairman
Stephen Goldspiel, Commissioner