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1975-04-09 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Simpson Property April 9, 1975 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8 :15 p.m. , April 9, 1975, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Blvd. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Haarr Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel (arrived at 9 :15 p.m. ) Mr. Jacobs Commissioners Absent: Mr. Harris Also Present: Mr. Bill Balling Mr. Arnold Seaberg Mr. Bill Kiddle Mr. William Simpson, Developer Mr. James Ray, Architect Mr. Neil King, Realtor Mr. Aaron Goldin, Property Owner Mr. Karl Mueller, Prospective Member Approval of Minutes Commissioner Shields moved to approve the minutes of March 19 , 1975, and Commissioner Mendenhall seconded. The motion carried that the minutes be approved subject to the following changes: Page 2 , paragraph 5, state that the R-1 Special Use Ordinance had not been discussed when Commissioner Mendenhall left the meeting; page 4, in line 5 under point number 1, change "from" to "along" . Communications Chairman Genrich stated that the Village had received a letter from Mr. Arthur Gingold of The Richards Group indicating that they are in the process of finalizing the next construction phase of "The Crossings" and would like to set a date for meeting with the required Village commissions. Mr. Genrich stated that he would set that up at some future date. Commissioner Mendenhall stated that he would like to see what was preliminarily approved before the date of this meeting. Plan Commission Page 2 4/9/75 Simpson Property Previous to the meeting the following exhibits on the Simpson Property were distributed to the Plan Commission members: 1. Staff review dated March 19 , 1975 2. Engineering review dated March 19 , 1975 3. Letter from the Buffalo Grove Park District dated March 12 , 1975 4. Letter from Aaron and Helen Goldin dated March 17 , 1975 5. Site layout plan dated March 19 , 1975 6. Letter from William & Elizabeth Simpson dated March 19 , 1975 7. Appearance Commission document dated April 1, 1975 At the meeting Mr. Ray distributed: A. Final plat of subdivision dated March 20, 1975 B. Revised set of plans dated April 9, 1975 Chairman Genrich stated that the Plan Commission was essentially concerned with the final plat approval and the site plan approval for recommendation to the Village Board at this meeting. Mr. Ray stated that minor revisions had been made on the site plans since the last set of plans had been distributed. These revisions consist of the sum total of all the clarifications requested by the Appearance Commission and some minute details of sanitary and storm water engineering. He stated that the most major revision was an easement of 10 feet requested by Mr. Seaberg on either side of the south line of the property for the purpose of possible future utility hook-ups from the Goldin and Park District property. Mr. Ray stated that the site plan provided for a total of 46, 900 sq. feet of store space which would include 34 ,900 for Kohl ' s and 12, 000 for the shop area. There are 292 parking spaces provided. The landscape plan, lighting plan and architectural studies have been approved by the Appearance Commission. Mr. Ray also stated that the sanitary, storm water retention and release and water service have been worked out with Mr. Seaberg and he has his general approval . Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Kiddle if he had any comments on behalf of the Park District. Mr. Kiddle stated that he felt there are some considerations he would like to call attention to. He added that because the Park District property is an ecological reserve it should receive special protection. Mr. Kiddle inquired about the workability of the plan the developer has for the removal of water from his property through the Park District land, through the easement and out to the area beyond. Mr. Seaberg stated that the retention for the Simpson Property had to be put on the Simpson Property. The i 1 I I 1 Plan Commission Page 3 4/9/75 developer is providing retention 12 times what is required. The water would flood the parking lot, drain past the ponds and into Cambridge. Mr. Seaberg stated that it was his opinion that there would be absolutely no effect on the ponds. Mr. Kiddle questioned the possibility of a back-up and Mr. Seaberg replied that this would not occur in normal situations and if it ever did occur, pollution would not be a concern at the time. Mr. Kiddie stated that it appeared that the easement on the east side of the property had been increased from 12 to 18 feet and inquired if the developer would be willing to replace trees in this area if the root systems should be destroyed in putting the pipe into the ground. Mr. Simpson stated that he had had an expert out to look at the trees and he was informed by him that if they stay 12 to 15 feet away from the trees there will be no effect on the root systems. Mr. Kiddie inquired about the note on the upper right hand corner of the site plan stating that park visitors solely visiting the park will not be permitted to park vehicles in the shopping center parking lot. He asked whether the Park District would be responsible for seeing this enforced. Commissioner Jacobs stated that they could not be. Mr. Kiddie asked if there were any recommendations with regard to landscaping around the sled run. He stated that this area does not have an erosion problem of any kind and he would like to work out an agreement on this. Mr. King stated that the Appearance Commission agreed that this area could be left for further study of the developer and that anything south of that lot line is the Park District' s concern. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Kiddle if he was aware of the letter to Mr. Ray dated March 12 signed by Mr. Crosland. Mr. Kiddle said that he was and he is in general agreement with it. ` Mr. Balling stated that as far as the Staff was concerned, there are no major problems with the preliminary site plan. I Commissioner Mendenhall stated that anyone approaching the park from the east would have to cross numerous driveways to get there. The ideal layout would have had an entrance into the park without going through the shopping center to get there. Commissioner Mendenhall inquired if they had considered putting the sidewalk behind the berming. Mr. Seaberg stated that the Appearance Commission has already set the requirement on the mode of landscape. The sidewalk is set just outside of the right of way. There will be a parkway so it will not be right next to the curb line. At all driveway entrances there will be ramps for bicycles so they will ride on the sidewalk rather than on the street. Plan Commission Page 4 4/9/75 Commissioner Jacobs stated he feels that the plan should not be approved unless it be considered along with the annexation. He added that it should be made clear to the Village Board that if we are going to act on the plan it be done in such a manner that this be taken care of and concluded before final plan approval. Mr. Goldin stated that he will own a portion of the building in exchange for his property. Chairman Genrich asked him how he intended to use the property immediately south of this area. Mr. Goldin replied that he hoped to put up a commercial or multiple-family building. The access to this future building would be from the shopping center. Chairman Genrich asked that the minutes show that under the original annexation for this property the B-2 portion was restricted in terms of automobile uses. The only exclusion was that a gasoline station could not be put on it. Commissioner Haarr stated that he was concerned about excessive ingress and egress on a parcel of this size. Mr. Ray stated that he had discussed this with Kohl' s and they felt they needed all four driveways. Mr. Seaberg stated that he did not think there were too many. The north driveway on Buffalo Grove Road is going to be right turn only. Commissioner Haarr questioned the need of the driveway at the east end of the property. Mr. Ray stated that this will be used primarily as a service drive. Commissioner Haarr stated that the plans do not show any screening for the loading berths as required by the subdivision ordinance. Mr. Ray stated that the berm around that area reaches an elevation of six feet and higher. It will totally screen the receiving area. Commissioner Haarr questioned the size of the parking spaces. The requirement is for 9 'x19 ' and the plans show 16 ' . Mr. King stated that they had to make them 16 ' in order to enlarge the 12 ' green area. Commissioner Goldspiel asked if the cars overhanging unto the landscaped buffer would interfere with the landscaping. Mr. Ray replied that sod would be planted in the first 3 ' . Commissioner Keister inquired about the sidewalk connecting the shopping center to the Park District land. In the original plan it was shown extending from the shops to the Park District land and in the revised plan it is adjoining the sidewalk on the west end of the property. Mr. Ray stated that when he talked to Kohl' s about this they stated that they felt it would not be safe to have the sidewalk crossing near the service area because of the danger of trucks and he agreed with them on this point. k . r_ Plan Commission Page 5 4/9/75 Commissioner Jacobs moved to recommend to the Village Board that the Simpson Site Plan as submitted (revised date April 9 , 1975) for the proposed shopping center on the southeast corner of Buffalo Grove Road and Dundee Road for the development of a Kohl ' s Food Store and adjoining shops be approved subject to the following conditions : 1. That the portion of the paved area of the one parking stall shown within the 12 foot buffer strip in the rear of the site should be eliminated. 2. An occupancy permit should not be issued by the Village until such time as the 45 feet on the west end of the subject property is annexed and zoned B-2 by the Village Board. Commissioner Mendenhall seconded the motion. The following vote was taken: Commissioner Haarr No Commissioner Shields Yes Commissioner Mendenhall Yes Commissioner Goldspiel Abstained Commissioner Keister Yes Commissioner Jacobs Yes Motion carried. Commissioner Haarr stated his reason for voting against the motion was only because some of the parking stalls do not meet the requirement of the Village. Other than that, he feels it is a good project. Commissioner Keister stated that he felt the Plan Commission should make the Village Board aware of the idea of the connecting sidewalk to the Park District land and some of the limitations to access to the park. Commissioner Jacobs stated that he will be at that Board meeting and will do this. Chairman Genrich stated that the subdivision plat dated March 20 , 1975, is for this property. The requirements for parking meet the specification of the Zoning Ordinance. The plat we are approving and recommending to the Board does not include the strip of land between this property and Buffalo Grove Road which is currently an unincorporated area. There will be steps taken to annex it into the Village and incorporate it at a later date. Commissioner Haarr moved to recommend to the Village Board the approval on the final plat of Willowmere Subdivision, Lot 1, as presented and dated March 20 , 1975, with the following conditions: 1. Utility easements be delineated 2. Show two permanent monuments on the northwest corner and southeast corner. 3. Must present a letter of intent to place concrete monuments 4. The setback line for Dundee Road should be delineated 5. A signature line is needed for the Village Engineer Plan Commission Page 6 4/9/75 Commissioner Jacobs seconded the motion. The following vote was taken: Commissioner Haarr Yes Commissioner Shields Yes Commissioner Mendenhall Yes Commissioner Goldspiel Yes Commissioner Keister Yes Commissioner Jacobs Yes Motion carried unanimously. Plan Commission Vacancy Chairman Genrich stated that Commissioner Gamm has resigned from the Plan Commission and there is now a vacancy on the Commission. Adjournment Commissioner Shields moved to adjourn and Commissioner Goldspiel seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m. Respectfully submitted, r , ( /aAL L da Isonhart, Recording Secretary APPROVED: Carl Ge rich, Chairman