1975-04-16 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Ranch Mart
Winston Square Phase III
April 16, 1975
Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8 :15 p.m. ,
April 16, 1975, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Blvd.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich
Mr. Mendenhall
Mr. Harris
Mr. Keister
Mr. Jacobs
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Haarr
Mr. Shields
Mr. Goldspiel
Also Present: Mr. Ken Rodeck, Ranch Mart
Mr. Elmer Hamning-Project Manager for
Winston Square
Mr. Steve Bilheimer-Vice President,
Centex Homes
Mr. Bill Balling
Mr. Karl Mueller-Prospective Member
Approval of Minutes
Commissioner Mendenhall moved to approve the minutes of
April 9, 1975 , and Commissioner Keister seconded the motion.
Upon vote the motion carried.
Liaison Report
Commissioner Jacobs stated that the Village Board had approved
the plan and final plat for the Simpson Property contingent
upon their filing a petition for annexation in the near future.
The motion carried with one dissenting vote. Mr. Rathjen did
not think the development should be approved until the 45 foot
strip owned by Mr. Goldin is annexed.
Ranch Mart
Mr. Balling reviewed the Staff Report on the Ranch Mart dated
April 14, 1975. He stated that the Staff had recomputed the
square footage in the parking lot area for the report in order
to meet the requirements for the B-3 Zoning District. The
Staff Report excluded the square footage for the southern-most
entrance drive, the northern entrance drive and the southerly
east-west entrance drive. There is still an excess of parking.
He added that there will be an unenclosed walkway which will
tie in with the bowling alley.
Plan Commission
Page 2 April 16, 1975
Mr. Balling stated that the agencies that have to approve
the plan yet are the Appearance Commission, MSD and EPA.
The EPA and MSD must approve the plan prior to issuing a
permit.
Mr. Balling stated that technically a final plat of subdivision
should be submitted for this phase but since there has been
no change of ownership and this is a building extension, there
need not be a final plat. Chairman Genrich asked that it be
indicated to the Board that the Plan Commission agrees with
the Staff that we can eliminate a final plat because there
was no change in ownership. Commissioner Harris stated that
he would like to see a final plat for the other two separate
additions, however.
Mr. Rodeck stated that the owners are Trustee #42809 which is
held by Chicago Title and Trust. This would be Gregg Builders
which is made up of a partnership consisting of Mr. Herbert
Dorner, Mr. Ernest Dorner, Mr. Albert Frank and Mr. Luba Friedman.
In response to a question from Commissioner Jacobs, Mr. Rodeck
stated that a lease is going out to a Hallmark Card and Gift
Shop and that a travel agency is ready to sign a lease. They
are also talking to a number of professional office people
for offices on the second floor.
Mr. Rodeck stated that they anticipate starting construction
June 15 or July 1, depending on when they can get permits.
Completion is scheduled for around October or November of this
year.
Mr. Mueller asked Mr. Balling if the Fire Department has looked
at the plat and plan for access to the structures and if they
concur with it? Mr. Balling responded that they have looked
at it and concur with it.
In response to a question from Mr. Mueller, Mr. Rodeck stated
that from the back of the Jewel to the retaining wall of the
tennis courts there is 78 feet for trucks to turn around. He
added that all the fire hydrants are existing and are external.
Jewel is the only store in the shopping center at present with
a sprinkler system but they will probably have to put one in
the new building.
Mr. Genrich stated that when he was in the Jewel late one night
he noticed there were a lot of cars for the bowling alley. As
a result, he asked Mr. Balling to check and see if they have
enough parking spaces under the ordinance and he indicates in
a report dated April 16 , 1975, and marked Exhibit B, that they
do.
Commissioner Jacobs inquired about the rental cost for the
building. Mr. Rodeck stated that it was approximately $6.50
to $7. 00 a square foot.
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Page 3 April 16 , 1975
Commissioner Mendenhall moved to approve ,the final plan as
presented (the store and office space addition of 25 ,900 sq. ft. )
per Exhibit A, dated January 1975. Commissioner Harris seconded
the motion and the following vote was taken:
Commissioner Mendenhall yes Commissioner Jacobs yes
Commissioner Harris yes
Commissioner Keister yes
The motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Harris requested Mr. Rodeck to mark the new section
on the plan before presenting it to the Board. Mr. Rodeck did
so at this time.
Mr. Rodeck asked if he could set up a meeting with the Plan
Commission on the next phase of the Ranch Mart Apartments.
Chairman Genrich asked him to work with Mr. Balling regarding
this and the Plan Commission will put it on the agenda.
Chairman Genrich appointed Commissioner Mendenhall to be
responsible for presenting this to the Village Board for the
Plan Commission.
Simpson Property
The Plan Commission authorized the Chairman and Secretary of
the Plan Commission to sign the official plat when they have
been notified by the Staff that they are in possession of the
letter granting the necessary utility easements as required
for this property.
Winston Square
Mr. Hamning stated that he has been working on the problem of
what could be done to provide a link with the school site and
recreation area. The revision made to accomplish this was
to remove the single family homes on lots 156-161, take the
townhouses from envelope 227 and put them where the single
family homes were and place single family homes in the area
where envelope 227 was. This would make the outlot in question
40 feet.
Commissioner Mendenhall stated that he felt this was an improvement
from the previous plan.
Commissioner Harris inquired what the reason was for off-setting
the green areas in the townhouses. Mr. Hamning replied that
it was because of the variation in the number of units.
Commissioner Keister asked if there were the same number of
total units in the revised plan as in the previous one.
Mr. Hamning replied that there were. In response to a question
from Commissioner Jacobs, Mr. Hamning stated that there were
a total of 420 or 422 units, 245 of which are in Phase III.
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Plan Commission
Page 4 April 16 , 1975
Commissioner Mendenhall inquired about the possibility of filling
the 40' open space with crushed rock and thereby allowing through
access for Fire Department equipment and cutting off the north-south
street, Buckthorn Terrace, in order to provide a more conducive
traffic pattern between the park and school site.
Commissioner Harris inquired what fire district Winston Square
is in. Mr. Balling replied that it is in the Long Grove
Fire District. Commissioner Harris asked that Mr. Balling
check with the Long Grove Fire Department and make sure they
do not object to this plan. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Balling
to meet with Mr. Dettmer and an official from the Long Grove
Fire Department on this matter before it comes before the
Board and include the results of this meeting in the Staff
Report that will be presented to the Board.
Commissioner Keister asked what the answer was to a memo sent
to Mr. Larson requesting the Staff to work with the developer
to see if a better vehicular movement could be obtained with
regard to the north-south feeder street called Pin Oak Terrace.
Mr. Balling replied that they would be encroaching on the school
property and the linden trees if this street were changed. The
Appearance Commission would not give their approval if the
linden trees were removed.
Mr. Harris questioned the variations in setback on the plan.
Mr. Hamning stated that the original plan had 20 foot setbacks
but the Appearance Commission wanted the variation in setbacks
so that they would not all be identical.
Chairman Genrich stated that he felt that because of the new
Board members, once the Plan Commission is in agreement with
this plan they should recommend their approval of the concept
before the developer goes any further in terms of engineering
to make sure there are no problems.
Commissioner Mendenhall moved that the Plan Commission indicate
to the Village Board its approval of the developer' s revised
plan for Phase III of the Centex-Winston Square Development
(document received by the Plan Commission April 16 , marked
Exhibit A) with the understanding that the developer requires
this Board consideration prior to developing their final
plan and final plat for Phase III. Commissioner Jacobs seconded
the motion and the following vote was taken:
Commissioner Mendenhall yes Commissioner Keister yes
Commissioner Harris abstain Commissioner Jacobs yes
The motion carried.
Chairman Genrich appointed Commissioner Keister as liaison
with the Village Board in this regard.
Revised and Corrected 5/21/75
Plan Commission
Page 5 April 16 , 1975
Commissioner Mendenhall stated that he felt the plan approved was
a prime example of overplanning and quite different from the plan
originally presented to the Plan Commission. However, this is the
best we can make of it at this point. He added that the original
plan was a very good one, but the various governmental bodies and
their desire to preserve trees, preserve open green area plus school
site revisions, and other requested changes has significantly altered
this plan. Commissioner Keister stated he was in agreement with
Commissioner Mendenhall.
Meeting with Village Board
Commissioner Harris made a motion that the Plan Commission make
a request of the new Village President that the Village Board
meet with us in the very near future. Commissioner Mendenhall
seconded the motion. A vote was taken and the motion carried.
Zoning Board of Appeals
Commissioner Jacobs stated he will meet with the Zoning Board
of Appeals in May.
Adjournment
Commissioner Harris made a motion to adjourn and Commissioner
Keister seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at 10 :00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
aJ
'nda Isonhart, Recording Secretary
APPROVED:(//--
Carl Ge rich, Chairman