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1975-12-10 - Plan Commission - Minutes 1 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION 1 Poppin Fresh Pies/Bank of Buffalo Grove, Schwartz/Miller Property & Crossings/Hemphill December 10, 1975 Chairman Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:10 p.m. , December 10, 1975, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Jacobs Mr. Kandel Commissioners Absent : Mr. Harris Also Present: Mr. David Potter, Bank of Buffalo Grove Mr. Edward Schwartz, Developer Mr. Lawrence M. Freedman, Attorney for Mr. Schwartz Mr. James Hemphill, C. A. Hemphill & Associates Mr. William Wyman, Crossings Mr. Troy Miller, Engineer Mr. William Whited, Administrative Assistant Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer Approval of Minutes Commissioner Mendenhall moved to approve the minutes of November 19, 1975, and Commissioner Shields seconded the motion. The motion carried that the minutes be approved subject to the following change: On Page 4, paragraph 5, beginning in line 4 change the paragraph to read " than we would have if we just annexed an area and zoned it (in terms of legality of control). If we would adopt a plan for the entire block and it showed curb cuts and in some way a road network and setbacks it would help us to know what would be coming." Correspondence Commissioner Genrich stated he had received a letter from High School District 125 dated November 19, 1975, which is presenting to us a policy statement that the school board is considering relative to their building requirements in terms of population, etc. The Staff was requested by the Plan Commission to compare this policy with the village ordinance or resolution for donation to school districts and report back to them. Plan Commission Page 2 December 10, 1975 Chairman Genrich stated he had received a memo from Verna Clayton informing him of a Christmas Party on the night of December 20th. If any of the Plan Commission members wish to attend they should call the Village Hall by Friday of this week. Chairman Genrich stated he had received a letter dated November 21 from Dan Larson indicating that someone has a option to purchase the Marquardt property. The Village Board has asked that the Plan Commission meet with this party to set up a Public Hearing date. A Workshop Session has been set up with them on February 11. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Whited to Obtain from them a letter telling what they intend to do and also a development plan. Chairman Genrich received a copy of a document from the Zoning Board of Apppeals dated November 24 with a memo attached suggesting an ordinance change relative to Article 13 of the Zoning Ordinance. He turned this over to Commissioner Jacobs for his review and recommendations. Poppin Fresh Pies/Bank of Buffalo Grove Chairman Genrich stated that he thought it would be best to hold a joint Public Hearing on this property. They would advertise this as a parcel of property entirely owned by the Bank of Buffalo Grove with reference in the advertisement to their plan as well as the Poppin Fresh Pies plan. Mr. Potter distributed copies of a suggested annexation agreement, plan for the parcel east of the Poppin Fresh location and a list providing the Plan Commission with information requested at their November 19 meeting. Mr. Potter reviewed this information. He stated the minimum setback of buildings would be 25 feet but this was hard to define without knowing who would be developing on this property. The curb cuts would be in the middle of the lot going unto Dundee Road and towards the back of the lot onto old Buffalo Grove Road. He had met with Mr. Seaberg and the two alternative methods of draining the property would be either an under- ground drainage and water retention system that would gradually drain into the storm sewer or to develop a landscaped area in the northeast or southeast corner of the parcel to hold the water and drain this off into the storm sewer. Twelve foot buffers would be provided on the back of the lot, along the Poppin Fresh property line and on the east side of the property. The water line would be extended south along Ellen Drive and east to the middle of the remaining parcel. Commissioner Mendenhall asked why they would be putting buffers down the Poppin Fresh side and down the east side. Mr. Potter replied that they were willing to put in a buffer along the Poppin Fresh lot if it would make it easier for Poppin Fresh to be accepted. Poppin Fresh will not provide a 12 foot buffer on their property because it would interfere with parking. If it is not necessary to put the buffer on the east side, Mr. Potter stated he would rather not. The Public Hearing date was set for January 21st. Plan Commission Page 3 December 10, 1975 Schwartz/Miller Property Chairman Genrich stated that he had talked with Mr. Raysa regarding the request by Mr. Ash at the last meeting to consider at the Public Hearing not only the commercial rezoning but also consider the residential plan as a substitute. According to Mr. Raysa, it can be done if it is advertised in a certain way. Chairman Genrich read the following draft of the Notification of Public Hearing: for the purpose of holding a Public Hearing for the rezoning of five acres of property (of 16 acres currently zoned R-9, Special Use-PUD) to commercial (B-3) use. In alternative the petitioners also ask the consideration of a new R-9, Special Use-PUD Preliminary Plan for the entire 16 acres (in lieu of the current approved plan adopted February 8, 1975)." Chairman Genrich stated that he had checked on the current controls on this property in terms of the annexation agreement. While the dates of the annexation agreement have expired, according to the annexation agreement the original preliminary plan which is dated February 1972 would be legally still in force in terms of what the plan is that has been legally approved and we should be considering the Schwartz plan as a substitute for this. Commissioner Mendenhall questioned this. Commissioner Jacobs stated that the question is whether this property is under R-9 as it existed at that time or as it exists today. He added that he thinks it retains the character of R-9 as it was previously granted. Chairman Genrich stated he would get a legal statement from Mr. Raysa regarding the zoning. Commissioner Goldspiel asked Mr. Schwartz to supply the Plan Commission with copies of the plan showing all residential and no commercial using the insert which was shown at the November 24 meeting. In response to a question from the Commission, Mr. Schwartz stated he had talked with Miller Builders regarding the differences between them and the Park District and Miller asked that someone from the Village Staff call him regarding this. The Plan Commission asked Bill Whited through Dan Larson to contact Miller Builders relative to questions that need to be answered with Miller and the Park District. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Schwartz to supply the following for the Public Hearing: 1. Mailing list 2. Plans showing commercial and residential and all residential 3. Written descriptions of both plans comparing number of units, etc. 4. Legal descriptions according to parameters set forth by Mr. Seaberg The Plan Commission will meet again with Mr. Schwartz on January 7th and the Public Hearing will be held on January 21. Crossings/Hemphill Chairman Genrich read a letter that he has written to Mr. Hemphill and Mr. Gingold regarding the rezoning of the single family portion of Plan Commission Page 4 December 10, 1975 The Crossings to a zoning density less than R-9. This will be done at a later date after construction of the single family portion is well under way. Mr. Gingold was amenable to this when it was brought up at a previous meeting and Mr. Hemphill stated that he saw no problem in this regard. The final plat for Unit 1 of Heritage Place, the Hemphill portion of The Crossings, was reviewed by the Plan Commission. A letter has been received from the Postmaster stating that there is no conflict in street names. Commissioner Kandel made a motion to recommend to the Village Board the approval of the final lot plan for Heritage Place, Unit 1, Exhibit 32, File 102, in the Plan Commission files, subject to: 1. Receiving an agreement to place permanent monuments as detailed in the Subdivision Regulation Ordinance Section 6, B2, b. 2. Showing building setback lines Section 6, B2, q. Commissioner Keister seconded the motion. The following vote was taken: Commissioner Mendenhall yes Commissioner Goldspiel abstain Commissioner Keister yes Commissioner Jacobs yes Commissioner Shields yes commissioner Kandel yes The motion carried. Commissioner Keister stated that the developer is recording the plat for Heritage Place, Unit 1, which includes an area subdivided and including Lot B and Lot C. He added that the following motion will be to subdivide Lot B of Heritage Place Unit 1 and will be called Unit 2. Unit 2 will not be recorded for six months or so. Commissioner Keister made a motion to recommend to the Village Board the approval of the final plat of the Subdivision Heritage Place Unit 2, Lot B, of Heritage Place Unit 1 previously approved, Exhibit 33, File 102, in the Plan Commission files, subject to: 1. Receiving a letter agreeing to place permanent monuments 2. Include building setback lines Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion. The following vote was taken: Commissioner Mendenhall yes Commissioner Goldspiel abstain Commissioner Keister yes Commissioner Jacobs yes Commissioner Shields yes Commissioner Kandel yes The motion carried. Committee Reports Commissioner Keister stated that his committee for reviewing the Capital Improvement Program has not met but he did receive two copies of the Plan Commission Page 5 December 10, 1975 addendum and he and Commissioner Kandel have reviewed it. He has some thoughts which he would like to offer to Mr. McCoy regarding the addendum. Regarding the section on streets, he thinks one of the things the Plan Commission should consider is whether the streets that are coming in should be dedicated or not. The streets in the subdivisions which have been approved should be shown in this section. Commissioner Keister added that in the areas along Dundee Road and Arlington Heights Road where a developer is committed to sidewalks and they haven't started building, it would be nice if they could be convinced to go ahead and put the sidewalks in. If they don't build, the Village should ask them to still put the sidewalks in, if we -can. Commissioner Kandel stated that he checked on what has been changed from what was originally proposed. He suggests they keep it in the same content and context from year to year. One of the outstanding changes was in the street lighting..section. Chairman Genrich suggested that the Plan Commission start dialogue now in terms of making plans for next year's document. Adjournment Commissioner Shields made a motion to adjourn and Commissioner Jacobs seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m. Respectfully submitted, C dL6426 16.4j; a Isonhart Recording Secretary APPROVED: Carl Genrich, Chairman 1 ---------------------------------------------- -