1978-05-24 - Plan Commission - Minutes j
SPECIAL MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
MAY 24, 1978
Chairman Genrich called the melting to order at 8 :00 PM.
Commissioners Present : Chairman Genrich
Commissioner Harris
Commissioner Shields
Commissioner iande1
Commissioner Force
Commissioners absent were Goldspiel , Sheldon, Capitel and Button.
Also present : Mr. Marvin Hyman
Mr. Ronald Grais, Neiman a Grais
Mr. Sherwin Braun, Brim/Braun Associates
Mr. Doue Maoel , Brim/Braun Associates
Mr. Paul Sims, Vice President , Home Federal Savings
Mr. Robert E. Breinan , Vice President , Home Federal Savings
Mr. William Hitzeman, School District 96
Mr. Frank Mayfield, Youth Commission Chairman
Mr. William Sommer , Assistant Village Manager
Mr. Tom Fennell , Director of Community Development and Planning
Mr. dart Delaney, Planning Coordinator
Mr. Delaney began the meeting by reviewing the Official Map.
Mr. Fennell stated that the Village Board wishes to have a Workshop re-
garding Pauline Avenue.
PLAZA VERDE HOME FEDERAL SAVINGS
Mr. Balling sent a letter to Mr. Genrich on May y, 1978, stating that the
Board of Trustees instructed the Plan Commission to review the plan for
Home Federal Savings , and make a recommendation back to the Board without
a public hearing.
Mr. Ron Grais stated that the plan as approved provides for a piece of
land for Home Federal Savings & Loan.
Mr. Crais then displayed exhibits showing the different sight lines between
the approved site and the proposed site.
The proposed plan would nave stacking space for 20 cars for teller lanes
before interfering with the main stream of traffic. The approved plan
has spaces for Drily 12 cars.
The required number of parking spaces is 254.
Mr. Ureis stated that his main concern in changing the Savings & Loan
site from the approved plan is to make the Center appear to be one shop-
ping cantor, rather than two separate centers.
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Mr. Braun said the main reason they wish to change the location of the
Savings & Loan is that bringing all the traffic into the south end of the
center creates tremendous cnngestion in tne main intersection. Anutner
major point is the improved visibility of the other stores in the proposed
plan .
Commisuioner Harris solo he does nut like the lavuut or the proposed plan,
mainly oecouse the oeuestrien crossing is bad. Mr. Grais said that he
would commit to study that point.
Commissioner shields tninks the proposed buildino is too close to uundee
Road, although he agrees that the proposed plan is better than the approved
plan.
Mr. Hyman said the "H" building will be occupied in a few weeks.
Mr. draun said that driver visibility will not be altered by the proposed
plan.
Commissioner Force thinks the building is too close to Dundee Road. She
likes the setting near Dundee, but feels the setback should be further
tndn 25' back.
Mr. draun said it might be possible far the setbacK to be 35 ' rather tnen
G5' .
Commissioner Force asked what tne key was to increasing the square footage
from 5,000 to 7,000.
Mr. Sims stated that the Buffalo Grove operation has been very successful,
and that Home Federal was considering making this operation a type of
regional headquarters.
Commissioner MSandel said he does not feel the approved plan should be
changed because he thinks it will create vehicle problems , and ruin the
aesthetics of a beautiful shopping center.
Mr. Grais said that they cannot put the Savings a Loan building in the
center of the parking lot because the lease states that there cannot be
anything between Eagle/Osco and Dundee Road.
Mr. Grais stated that the developers believe the original location is
ill-conceived; that they have a substantial investment in the center,
which they do not wish to spoil ; and that they must have the Savings &
Loan in the new location to create visual unity.
Commissioner Force asked about the current status between Mr . Grais and
Home Federal. The answer was that Home Federal is Mr. Grais ' tenant.
Commissioner Force then asked what would happen if the proposed site is
not approved. Mr. Sims said Home Federal would most likely stay in their
present location, but would plan another site for their regional center.
Chairman Genrich made reference to a letter from Chief of Police dalsh
stating that the Police Department finds the proposed location to be
acceptable.
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There were no tenants or store owners present. Mr. Grais said they were
all sent letters informing them of this meeting.
Chairman Genrich suggested that the Commission make a recommendation to
the Board of Trustees.
Members ❑f the staff stated they had nothing further to say.
Commissioner Harris does not like the alternate site, and does not feel
it is a good solution. He did not want to make a positive recommendation
to the Board.
Commissioner Shields made a motion to approve the relocation of the Savings is
Loan building to a setback of 35' from Dundee Road, with a limitation of
2 drive-in lanes.
The motion was dropped for lack ❑f a second.
Mr. Grais said that the developers have tried every possible situation
for the building, and feel that the proposed plan is as good as is possible.
Commissioner Harris made a motion that the Commission reject the request
to move the Savings 8 Loan building.
Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion, which carried 3 t❑ 1 in favor.
Commissioners Harris, Kandel and Force voted "Yes" , and Commissioner
Shields voted "Poo".
Chairman Genrich asked for discussion, and suggested that the Commission
pass a positive motion with modifications.
Commissioner Force stated that she does not think the building should be
on Dundee Road. She said she feels the developers have done the best
that they could with the site, out that it is just not a good situation.
Sne feels tnat Home Federal could stay in the location it presently occupies ,
and consider moving their regional center elsewhere.
Mr . Sims thinks the proposed design is good, although there is a slight
traffic problem. He steten that studies ehnw that banks or savings and
loan institutions attract people to shopping centers . He feels the savings
and loan would oe a better tenant for the center than someone else mieht
be. He said the building would have a low profile, and trues not tnink
it would visioly detrect from the center ; he feels it would be a good
break for the center.
Mr. Grais said the building is designed to stand out as an important part
of the center, and feels it would hinder the center not to hdve the build-
ing in the proposed location, and that Buffalo Grove will suffer because
❑f not having it there.
At this point , Chairman Genrich asked for a short break.
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YOUTH CENTER
Mr. Frank Mayfield stated that the proposed site for the Youth Center is
behind the Municipal Building on Lake-Cook Road. He said it will be a
small building, and that the Youth Commission likes the site because it
is away from residential areas, and is a good location in terms of traffic.
The Youth Commission anticipates mostly drop-off and pick-up of the teens,
so there will not be a need for much parking.
The purpose of the Center is primarily an after-school social center.
Tney are trying to re-route bus lines for drop-off and pick-up. There
will be music and food vending machines, in addition to recreational games.
Mr. Mayfield said the evening activities would be primarily planning
meetings, etc. He said the kids are not really interested in week-night
activities because of homework and school demands ; their main interest is
a place for after-school and week-ends.
Mr. Fennell said the purpose of reviewing the Center at the present time
is because the property must be re-zoned for a Youth Center. If it is
re-zoned, there must be a Public Hearing.
The question of there being a parking problem was raised. Mr. Mayfield
said the target age group for the Center would be 7th through 10th grades;
and that the building itself is too small for large dances. They do not
anticipate a large "over-15" age group because of jobs, etc. Their main
target group is the teens without cars, because they have less mobility
and fewer places to go.
The building will consist of one large room, roughly 30 'x40' .
Commissioner Shields had no questions.
Commissioner Force asked about options for Expansion. Could modules be
added to the building as it uecame desirable? Mr. Mayfielo said they
do nut anticipate tee need for expansion, although it would he possible,
as they do not want this Center to be the only place forthe teens to go.
Tney feel this will be a place used on a daily basis, not a place for weekly
programs. They want the youth program to use many existing saaces as much
as possible, such as the schools and park district.
Commissioner Handel asked if there were any provisions for outside ac-
tivities. Mr. Mayfield said that there is a 40 'x40 ' heliport pad, which
would possibly he used during warmieather , but that outside activities
would probably oe discouraged, one reason being the problem of supervision.
A Public Hearing was scheduled for June 14, 1978 at 7:30 PM, and it was
requested that the Zoning Board of Appeals schedule their hearing for 8:30
the same night.
Commissioner Force asked if the re-zoning was just of the small parcel
of land for the Youth Center. Mr. Fennell said that a minimum of 2 acres
must be re-zoned.
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OFFICIAL MAP
Commissioner Harris made a motion that the Plan Commission recommend
approval of the Official Map to the Board of Trustees. Commissioner
Kendel seconded, and the motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Genrich noted a memo from Mr. Balling on May 12, 1978 thanking
the Plan Commission for its policy statement regarding the improvement
of Arlington Heights Road, Lake County.
The Village Board will approve the reappointment of Commissioners Sheldon
and Force to the Plan Commission on June 5, 1978.
WAGNER FARr•M/LEVITT
Chairman Genrich said he had checked with Village Attorney Raysa, who
informed him that a court decision states that, unless an agreement
states a different period of time , the agreement is in effect for 10
years.
Commissioner Force asked if the annexation agreement on the Scholz
property on Checker and Arlington Heights Roads is still in effect.
It was stated that, unless the agreement stated a different period of
time than 10 years, it would still oe in effect. Remaining to be done
on this property are:
1. Get final plat and engineering approval ;
2. Go to Appearance Commission;
3. Go to Building Department for permits.
ROUTE 53
Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Fennell to send a letter to CATS inquiring as
to what kind of origin and destination surveys are available indicating
numbers of people that are using Route 83, and Arlington Heights Road, and
Rand Road. It was also requested that origin and destination studies of
people using Arlington Race Track be procured.
Commissioner Force motioned to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Shields
seconded the motion, and the meeting was adjourned at 10:05 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Janet Siraoian
Recording Secretary
APPROVED:
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Carl Genrich, Chairman