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1978-05-24 - Plan Commission - Minutes j SPECIAL MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION MAY 24, 1978 Chairman Genrich called the melting to order at 8 :00 PM. Commissioners Present : Chairman Genrich Commissioner Harris Commissioner Shields Commissioner iande1 Commissioner Force Commissioners absent were Goldspiel , Sheldon, Capitel and Button. Also present : Mr. Marvin Hyman Mr. Ronald Grais, Neiman a Grais Mr. Sherwin Braun, Brim/Braun Associates Mr. Doue Maoel , Brim/Braun Associates Mr. Paul Sims, Vice President , Home Federal Savings Mr. Robert E. Breinan , Vice President , Home Federal Savings Mr. William Hitzeman, School District 96 Mr. Frank Mayfield, Youth Commission Chairman Mr. William Sommer , Assistant Village Manager Mr. Tom Fennell , Director of Community Development and Planning Mr. dart Delaney, Planning Coordinator Mr. Delaney began the meeting by reviewing the Official Map. Mr. Fennell stated that the Village Board wishes to have a Workshop re- garding Pauline Avenue. PLAZA VERDE HOME FEDERAL SAVINGS Mr. Balling sent a letter to Mr. Genrich on May y, 1978, stating that the Board of Trustees instructed the Plan Commission to review the plan for Home Federal Savings , and make a recommendation back to the Board without a public hearing. Mr. Ron Grais stated that the plan as approved provides for a piece of land for Home Federal Savings & Loan. Mr. Crais then displayed exhibits showing the different sight lines between the approved site and the proposed site. The proposed plan would nave stacking space for 20 cars for teller lanes before interfering with the main stream of traffic. The approved plan has spaces for Drily 12 cars. The required number of parking spaces is 254. Mr. Ureis stated that his main concern in changing the Savings & Loan site from the approved plan is to make the Center appear to be one shop- ping cantor, rather than two separate centers. buffalo Grove Plan Commission May 24 , 157b Page Two Mr. Braun said the main reason they wish to change the location of the Savings & Loan is that bringing all the traffic into the south end of the center creates tremendous cnngestion in tne main intersection. Anutner major point is the improved visibility of the other stores in the proposed plan . Commisuioner Harris solo he does nut like the lavuut or the proposed plan, mainly oecouse the oeuestrien crossing is bad. Mr. Grais said that he would commit to study that point. Commissioner shields tninks the proposed buildino is too close to uundee Road, although he agrees that the proposed plan is better than the approved plan. Mr. Hyman said the "H" building will be occupied in a few weeks. Mr. draun said that driver visibility will not be altered by the proposed plan. Commissioner Force thinks the building is too close to Dundee Road. She likes the setting near Dundee, but feels the setback should be further tndn 25' back. Mr. draun said it might be possible far the setbacK to be 35 ' rather tnen G5' . Commissioner Force asked what tne key was to increasing the square footage from 5,000 to 7,000. Mr. Sims stated that the Buffalo Grove operation has been very successful, and that Home Federal was considering making this operation a type of regional headquarters. Commissioner MSandel said he does not feel the approved plan should be changed because he thinks it will create vehicle problems , and ruin the aesthetics of a beautiful shopping center. Mr. Grais said that they cannot put the Savings a Loan building in the center of the parking lot because the lease states that there cannot be anything between Eagle/Osco and Dundee Road. Mr. Grais stated that the developers believe the original location is ill-conceived; that they have a substantial investment in the center, which they do not wish to spoil ; and that they must have the Savings & Loan in the new location to create visual unity. Commissioner Force asked about the current status between Mr . Grais and Home Federal. The answer was that Home Federal is Mr. Grais ' tenant. Commissioner Force then asked what would happen if the proposed site is not approved. Mr. Sims said Home Federal would most likely stay in their present location, but would plan another site for their regional center. Chairman Genrich made reference to a letter from Chief of Police dalsh stating that the Police Department finds the proposed location to be acceptable. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission May 24 , 1978 Page Three There were no tenants or store owners present. Mr. Grais said they were all sent letters informing them of this meeting. Chairman Genrich suggested that the Commission make a recommendation to the Board of Trustees. Members ❑f the staff stated they had nothing further to say. Commissioner Harris does not like the alternate site, and does not feel it is a good solution. He did not want to make a positive recommendation to the Board. Commissioner Shields made a motion to approve the relocation of the Savings is Loan building to a setback of 35' from Dundee Road, with a limitation of 2 drive-in lanes. The motion was dropped for lack ❑f a second. Mr. Grais said that the developers have tried every possible situation for the building, and feel that the proposed plan is as good as is possible. Commissioner Harris made a motion that the Commission reject the request to move the Savings 8 Loan building. Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion, which carried 3 t❑ 1 in favor. Commissioners Harris, Kandel and Force voted "Yes" , and Commissioner Shields voted "Poo". Chairman Genrich asked for discussion, and suggested that the Commission pass a positive motion with modifications. Commissioner Force stated that she does not think the building should be on Dundee Road. She said she feels the developers have done the best that they could with the site, out that it is just not a good situation. Sne feels tnat Home Federal could stay in the location it presently occupies , and consider moving their regional center elsewhere. Mr . Sims thinks the proposed design is good, although there is a slight traffic problem. He steten that studies ehnw that banks or savings and loan institutions attract people to shopping centers . He feels the savings and loan would oe a better tenant for the center than someone else mieht be. He said the building would have a low profile, and trues not tnink it would visioly detrect from the center ; he feels it would be a good break for the center. Mr. Grais said the building is designed to stand out as an important part of the center, and feels it would hinder the center not to hdve the build- ing in the proposed location, and that Buffalo Grove will suffer because ❑f not having it there. At this point , Chairman Genrich asked for a short break. • Buffalo Grove Plan Commission May 24 , 1978 Page Four YOUTH CENTER Mr. Frank Mayfield stated that the proposed site for the Youth Center is behind the Municipal Building on Lake-Cook Road. He said it will be a small building, and that the Youth Commission likes the site because it is away from residential areas, and is a good location in terms of traffic. The Youth Commission anticipates mostly drop-off and pick-up of the teens, so there will not be a need for much parking. The purpose of the Center is primarily an after-school social center. Tney are trying to re-route bus lines for drop-off and pick-up. There will be music and food vending machines, in addition to recreational games. Mr. Mayfield said the evening activities would be primarily planning meetings, etc. He said the kids are not really interested in week-night activities because of homework and school demands ; their main interest is a place for after-school and week-ends. Mr. Fennell said the purpose of reviewing the Center at the present time is because the property must be re-zoned for a Youth Center. If it is re-zoned, there must be a Public Hearing. The question of there being a parking problem was raised. Mr. Mayfield said the target age group for the Center would be 7th through 10th grades; and that the building itself is too small for large dances. They do not anticipate a large "over-15" age group because of jobs, etc. Their main target group is the teens without cars, because they have less mobility and fewer places to go. The building will consist of one large room, roughly 30 'x40' . Commissioner Shields had no questions. Commissioner Force asked about options for Expansion. Could modules be added to the building as it uecame desirable? Mr. Mayfielo said they do nut anticipate tee need for expansion, although it would he possible, as they do not want this Center to be the only place forthe teens to go. Tney feel this will be a place used on a daily basis, not a place for weekly programs. They want the youth program to use many existing saaces as much as possible, such as the schools and park district. Commissioner Handel asked if there were any provisions for outside ac- tivities. Mr. Mayfield said that there is a 40 'x40 ' heliport pad, which would possibly he used during warmieather , but that outside activities would probably oe discouraged, one reason being the problem of supervision. A Public Hearing was scheduled for June 14, 1978 at 7:30 PM, and it was requested that the Zoning Board of Appeals schedule their hearing for 8:30 the same night. Commissioner Force asked if the re-zoning was just of the small parcel of land for the Youth Center. Mr. Fennell said that a minimum of 2 acres must be re-zoned. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission May 24 , 1978 Page Five OFFICIAL MAP Commissioner Harris made a motion that the Plan Commission recommend approval of the Official Map to the Board of Trustees. Commissioner Kendel seconded, and the motion carried unanimously. Chairman Genrich noted a memo from Mr. Balling on May 12, 1978 thanking the Plan Commission for its policy statement regarding the improvement of Arlington Heights Road, Lake County. The Village Board will approve the reappointment of Commissioners Sheldon and Force to the Plan Commission on June 5, 1978. WAGNER FARr•M/LEVITT Chairman Genrich said he had checked with Village Attorney Raysa, who informed him that a court decision states that, unless an agreement states a different period of time , the agreement is in effect for 10 years. Commissioner Force asked if the annexation agreement on the Scholz property on Checker and Arlington Heights Roads is still in effect. It was stated that, unless the agreement stated a different period of time than 10 years, it would still oe in effect. Remaining to be done on this property are: 1. Get final plat and engineering approval ; 2. Go to Appearance Commission; 3. Go to Building Department for permits. ROUTE 53 Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Fennell to send a letter to CATS inquiring as to what kind of origin and destination surveys are available indicating numbers of people that are using Route 83, and Arlington Heights Road, and Rand Road. It was also requested that origin and destination studies of people using Arlington Race Track be procured. Commissioner Force motioned to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Shields seconded the motion, and the meeting was adjourned at 10:05 PM. Respectfully submitted, Janet Siraoian Recording Secretary APPROVED: 241/(4444;f4 Carl Genrich, Chairman