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1987-10-21 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Doetsch Property Covington Corporate Center, Unit 1 October 21, 1987 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Musfeldt - arrived at 7:47 P.M. Mr. Rhodes Mr. Katz Ms. Silz Mr. Lundine Commissioners Absent: Mr. Davis Also Present: Mr. J. Truesdell, Planner, Doetsch Property Mr. P. Leder, Engineer, Doetsch Property Mr. M. Christenson, Planner, Covington Corp. Cntr. Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Lundine, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of October 7, 1987 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor, and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Lundine, to approve the Public Hearing Meeting minutes of October 7, 1987 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Lundine, to approve the Executive Session Meeting minutes of October 7, 1987 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS None DOETSCH PROPERTY Mr. Truesdell stated the plan is the same as presented previously. The only revision is the shape of the retention area. Commissioner Musfeldt arrived. They are not asking for any variations with this plan except from the Development Ordinance to allow the use of Enkamat. They are proposing 64 single family lots. A typical lot would be 70' x 125' but they will have lots in excess of the minimum requirements. They are providing the bike path from the duplexes to the south to Highland Road. They have committed to provide the bike path through the green belt. They looked at putting in some islands along Pauline but this would cut down on the curvature of the street and have a negative effect on the green belt. The larger lots did not have the same room. Mr. Carmignani's memo indicated that the future ultimate projected traffic on Pauline falls in line with the acceptable range for a normal collector street. It would create a similar amount of traffic as Brandywyn. Mr. Truesdell proposed to go with the plan because it makes a better development, curvature of the street is better, there are larger lots, the open space works better and since they will not have a real traffic problem, he feels it would be a good plan for the Village. They plan on making an appropriate cash donation to the park and school districts. They will dedicate the bike path to the park district. The maintenance of the cul-de-sacs islands, the entry way and retention he proposed to be taken over by the Village and the park district take over the bike path. If this could not be accomplished, they would create a homeowners association to cover it. Regarding the off site monument at Route 83 and Pauline, they would not be able to do this as they do not own property there. They will create an entry feature at Weiland Road. Mr. Truesdell passed out sample drawings of the homes they are building at Bloomingdale. The units range from $155,000.00 to $215,000.00 base price at this site. They will be building this product and that developed in Astor Place on this new site. Mr. Leder briefly reviewed the engineering. They have ample room to accommodate the required storage and slope, the walkways and paths around the lake, the safety ledges will be installed and this meets the Village codes. 1 They have proposed Enkamat around the shore line in lieu of stone. The normal water elevation at the lowest is 677.5' and the highest is 683' . The middle of the pond is 15' deep. The outflow would go out to Weiland and that is the way the natural drainage flows. Mr. Truesdell stated Lots 18 and 4 will have a 35' rear yard. The homes will be setting on an angle. They are not proposing fencing around the open space but the homeowners might put it in. The center island is approximately 100' wide and 30' across. Trustee Reid noted that Lots 1, 1, 20 and 30 did not have the access by the major arterial but by the side street. Mr. Leder stated the high water line of the detention depth would be 2' or 3' off the sidewalk and another 25' or so to the normal water line. There will be a berm along the north property line. Mr. Truesdell stated they will have a landscape plan for the public hearing. They do plan on landscaping the islands but it will be a type that does not Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Page 2 Regular Meeting October 21, 1987 1 cause a sight line problem. Soil borings were done. Commissioner Katz felt that there was a safety situation with the landscaped island and pedestrians crossing the streets. Mr. Truesdell stated dry detention would require another acre of land Commissioner Lundine would like dry detention and was concerned about the safety aspects of retention. A dry detention could be an area that could be used for another purpose when dry. Mr. Pfeil stated that Mr. Boysen had noted that retention areas are not maintained by homeowners usually and felt this would eventually become into the Village's responsibility. He would prefer dry detention. Mr. Truesdell stated the plan would be very difficult to make work if it had to go to a dry detention basin. He feels this would be a much more attractive feature as a retention pond. Commissioner Goldspiel asked staff to get information for the public hearing on the sewers in the area, their condition and to check to make sure Lots 5 and 6 are buildable. Trustee Reid questioned if the premium lots were sold for more money, would the developer be giving some of that extra money to the Village if the Village maintains the detention. Mr. Truesdell stated if the Village took over the retention possibly something could be worked out, but he was not with the marketing end of the development. Mr. Pfeil stated the Village engineer is satisfied with the performance of Enkamat but may not want the Village ordinance changed to allow it. Mr. Pfeil will request Mr. Kuenkler submit a written report on this item. COVINGTON CORPORATE CENTER, UNIT 1 Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that Covington Corporate Center, Unit 1 - Lot 10 - Plat of Resubdivision dated October 14, 1987 be recommended for approval to the Village Board. Discussion: Mr. Christenson stated the easements on the plat denote the detention ponds. Lot 10 is divided into Lots l0A and 10B because the user did not need the entire area. They are both useable lots. The Village engineer has reviewed this, it is in accordance with the Village ordinance and it closes. AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Musfeldt, Katz, Rhodes, Silz and Lundine NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Davis The motion passed 7 - 0. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Page 3 Regular Meeting October 21, 1987 FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE Chairman Sheldon noted that there is to be a special meeting for a public hearing on the police facility and The Crossings second workshop on November 11, 1987. Mr. Krug asked to have the bike path along the west end of Weidner looked into. Mr. Pfeil will review this and report back to the Commission. Commissioner Musfeldt stated that on October 19, 1987 the Village Board reviewed a plan for Children's World on Weiland Road. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel, and unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 9:35 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: fit---� Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Page 4 Regular Meeting October 21, 1987