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1987-03-04 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Zoning Map Leider Property Plat Johnson Property West Johnson Property East Buffalo Grove Facilities Plan March 4, 1987 Vice Chairman Goldspiel called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Vice Chairman Goldspiel Mr. Davis Mr. Krug Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Rhodes Commissioners Absent: Ms. Sheldon Mr. Gal Ms. Kaszubowski Mr. Katz Also Present: Mr. P. Pomnitz, Architect, Buffalo Grove Facilities Ms. M. Norma, Landscaper, Buffalo Grove Facilities Mr. R. Dausman, Engineer, Buffalo Grove Facilities Mr. B. Bingham, Developer, Johnson Property Mr. R. Gudmundson, Engineer, Johnson Property Mr. G. Boysen, Village Director of Public Works Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. W. Balling, Village Manager Ms. B. Dolan, Staff Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of February 18, 1987 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Davis and Krug abstaining and the motion passed. COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted there will be a public hearing on the Soo Line Railroad passenger service by Metra in April in Libertyville. ZONING MAP Staff will check the names of Aptakisic and Mundelein Roads. Ms. Dolan briefly reviewed the changes that had taken place on the zoning map since its last revision. Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Village Zoning Map dated March 4, 1987 AYES: Commissioners Davis, Krug, Musfeldt and Rhodes NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Sheldon, Gal, Kaszubowski and Katz The motion passed 4 - 0. LEIDER PROPERTY Ms. Dolan stated that Mr. Kuenkler informed her that everything is in order and all the angles close. The developer had to acquire some right-of-way to straighten a street prior to the Leider annexation and that is the purpose of this plat. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the plat of dedication for the Leider Property dated December 8, 1986, Survey #860704 a set of 2 sheets. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Krug, Musfeldt and Rhodes NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Sheldon, Gal, Kaszubowski and Katz The motion passed 4 - 0. JOHNSON PROPERTY WEST Mr. Bingham stated this is the same design that was presented previously with some variations related to suggestions made at the workshop and staff meetings. Access is off of Lake/Cook Road. He noted the traffic count on Lake/Cook Road should be 14.5 and not 145 as stated in the traffic report by Mr. Carmignani. They will extend the deceleration lane to meet IDOT's standards. Mr. Bingham is part owner of this property. Access to the prairie land is still under discussion. They do not have any problem with construction vehicles or snow fences. They believe the setbacks will not affect the growth of material on the prairie. There are only single story buildings and should not cast that long of a shadow. They are concerned with the security and liability issue regarding access to the prairie for the public. They need to know when Mr. Packard wants access. They will work to provide it in some form. Mr. Packard suggested that Huntly Road be legally closed but not vacated. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting March 4, 1987 - Page 2 Regarding the setback along the prairie and a burn off, the problem of a fire hazard was discussed and the developer felt that under a controlled condition that the owner of the prairie would have to provide a safe burn off. Ms. Dolan noted that the right-of-way on Huntly Road and the Commonwealth Edison property are in the Village. They are requesting a 15' building setback along the Commonwealth Edison right-of-way and a 25' setback on the north. Mr. Gudmundson noted that the reason for the variation is that Huntly Road goes through the prairie and probably would never be built. There would be little parking behind the buildings. They might put a drive behind the buildings. The only flammable portion would be the roofs. They would consider it a hardship to provide a larger setback than the 15' near the right-of-way. Mr. Bingham noted that Lots 14, 16 and 17 are set aside to be combined with another lot. He listed the Commission's concerns: 1. A suitable access to the prairie area that would let residents in but not cars. A design of the back of the property to discourage leaping over the prairie access. 2. Setback of the buildings from the prairie property. The Commission concurred that they were concerned with the 15' setback because of the burn off and sun light issues and would prefer the 25' . 3. Staff was directed to discuss the issue of shade, maintenance and access regarding the prairie. 4. How to deal with the bike path and how it should be tracked. 5. Whether any provision needs to be made for the increased traffic on Lake/Cook Road. 6. A sketch of where the channels would be. 7. Check on the status of the outlots before the public hearing. Mr. Gudmundson briefly reviewed the variations as outlined in his February 26, 1987 memo, File 1/717-200a. He passed out a drawing of a typical open channel. The Commission would like to see specifically where the swales would go. This would be a stream and would be maintained by the property owners. Mr. Gudmundson had contacted the Department of Conservation and they are sending a pamphlet regarding pond depth and aeration. Some of the outlots have been acquired and the others are still under dis- cussion. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting March 4, 1987 - Page 3 Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes and unanimously carried to have this plan go to public hearing whenever all the necessary paperwork is in. Vice Chairman Goldspiel called a break at 8:56 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 9:01 P.M. JOHNSON PROPERTY EAST Mr. Gudmundson reviewed the variations as outlined in his memo of February 26, 1986, File #750-200. Their detention will not effect the golf course. Staff will look into the depth of the lake and the existing side slopes. Mr. Gudmundson noted water that comes from the west and north is from prior projects. What comes through the south would be from the lake detention pond of 4 or 5 acres. What backs up over the golf course is from the Des Plaines River backup. The sediment in the lake will filter on down to the bottom. The construction of the small pond will have a positive effect on the large lake near it. These bodies of water would be maintained by the property owners. Mr. Bingham referred to Mr. Carmignani's report of February 23, 1987 to Ms. Dolan. He noted the westerly exit of the two shown is approved. Vice Chairman Goldspiel suggested eliminating the approved drive and use the one existing that is more centrally located. Mr. Bingham stated they see this site as a single story office with a bank and a restaurant. Access on Linden Avenue would be modified by closing Linden and using Marquette Place. Mr. Gudmundson passed out a sketch of this access. They have had discussions with Mr. Johnson regarding outlining additional property to widen the street between Linden and Marquette Place. He then explained the tight diamond concept for the Commission which was a possible access near Linden. The developer will contact the homeowners in this area. The developer will provide deceleration lanes where there are curb cuts. They have spaces for 833 cars in their lot. The developer will look at an internal roadway system. BUFFALO GROVE FACILITIES Plan Mr. Balling stated this is a major expansion of the municipal campus along with some demolition also. Church Road and Raupp Boulevard are not dedicated right-of-way. The demolition of the existing golf course facility will take place after the new clubhouse is built. It will be 1,000 square feet. They will have an addition to the public works facility and interior remodeling of the village hall. A new police station would have a secured and an employee parking lot. A salt storage building of 4,280 square feet would be built. The new golf course building will be moved further west. The public service center is a large warehouse Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting -_ ---- --- __ March 4, 1987 - Page 4 type expansion on the wing walls. The compensatory storage will be outside of the village campus between the 10th tee and llth green. It would be dry. There would be a major detention basin behind the youth center. They are trying to acquire 2 acres of land at present for this site for the Police { station. Commissioner Davis questioned where the handicap parking is located and noted that a 50' walk to the building is a hardship. The Village chambers are not accessible for handicap at present. Mr. Dausman stated there will be very little earth work involved. The storm sewers will be underground. Vice Chairman Goldspiel suggested locating the salt storage facility near the Soo Line tracks. Mr. Boysen noted that the location of the salt building is such so that it is close to the trucks. It will be 29' height and the public works building will be 24' . Mr. Balling noted they will make an effort to save all the large trees. The police firing range will not be open to the public because of liability concerns. This project will cost five million dollars. Vice Chairman Goldspiel suggested the salt storage facility's exterior be improved. He was concerned about the width of Church Street. He would like to see some information on the traffic on Church. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that this plan go to public hearing when all the necessary paper work is in. Discussion: Commissioner Musfeldt noted that the Commission is going to a public hearing on a property that is not all owned by the developer. He felt there should be sidewalks on both sides of the street. Mr. Balling noted that there would be a bike path. Vice Chairman Goldspiel disapproved of the plan because it is very intense, the public works buildings is an eye sore, the size, as extended, is very large and there is a lot of pavement. The public works garage should be located in a more industrial area. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Krug and Rhodes NAYES: Commissioner Musfeldt ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Sheldon, Gal, Kaszubowski and Katz. FUTURE AGENDA A special meeting will be held on March 11, 1987 for the Town Center. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting March 4, 1987 - Page 5 ADJOURNMENT Davis, secondedCommissioner Musfeldt, and n - Moved byCommissioner avis s o byu ani � mously carried to adjourn the meeting. Vice Chairman Goldspiel adjourned the meeting at 11:15 P.M. Respectfully submitted, X(12/1-("( Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: / / S ep n Goldspiel Chairman � ` J - Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting __ _ March 4, 1987 - Page 6