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1985-08-07 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Washington Irving School - Rezoning from R-5 to R-7 with Special use for a Community Center & a Private Child Care Center August 7, 1985 Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:49 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel - arrived at 7:57 P.M. Mr. Davis - arrived at 8:43 P.M. Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Demski Mr. Gal Ms. Kaszubowski Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug Mr. Laskie Also Present: Mr. N. Sack, Attorney, Washington Irving School Mr. M. Tarnoff, Developer, Washington Irving School Mr. F. Bernheim, Architect, Washington Irving School Mr. R. Spector, Engineer, Washington Irving School Mr. R. Muraz, 1261 Radcliffe, Buffalo Grove Mr. R. Sherman, 778 Stonebridge, Buffalo Grove Mr. E. Kinnecki, 1271 Radcliffe, Buffalo Grove Mr. Golden, Buffalo Grove Merchant & JCC Board Mbr. Mr. J. Houlab, JCC Board Member Mr. J. Nailer, 903 Stonebridge, Buffalo Grove Mr. M. Stone, JCC Board Member Mr. R. Packratz, Dir. of the Northwest Music School Mr. T. Moran, Developer, Shell Oil Mini-Mart Mr. W. Woodworth, Engineer, Shell Oil Mini-Mart Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner L Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the newpspaper and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs. Sack, Tarnoff, Bernheim, and Spector. Mr. Sack reviewed the functions that the school presently has and will have in the future should the Federation purchase it. Mr. Spector briefly reviewed the operations of the Northwest Suburban Jewish Community Center. Mr. Sack stated: 1. The music school would not be allowed to conduct any classes that produce noise outside of the building after 10:00 P.M. 2. The two play grounds owned by the Federation, should they purchase the building, would be made available to the community when the tenants were not in need of it. The play ground on site that is the property of the park district would, through an agreement with the Federation, be made available to the community when the tenants are not in need of it. 3. Signage would comply with the Village codes. Commissioner Goldspiel arrived and did not participate in the discussion. 4. They will install bushes along the east boundary line to screen head lights. 5. They will install signs in and around the parking lots urging visitors to park in the parking lots and not on the public streets. There are 3 special occasions when the number of people visiting the center will exceed the allotted parking. They will provide, on these occasions, parking at near by temples with the use of shuttle buses. They will also retain traffic controllers on those occasions. Mr. Sack stated that the school buses will be required to park out of the line of vision of the residents. Mr. Tarnoff stated that the leases of the existing tenants have expired and they are on a 30 day cancellation clause pending the outcome of this hearing. The Federation plans to renew the leases for one year and review them at that time. There is no plan for flood lights on the signage. The parking is adequate for the present use of the building and also if the JCC should occupy the entire site. Mr. Sack stated they are willing to covenant that they will not increase the tenants that are not affiliated with the Federation. They intend to bring the present signage into conformance with the Village. They are not, at this time, requesting any variations. Mr. R. Muraz submitted pictures of the parking problems he would like to see resolved. He felt the parking would not be sufficient if the JCC expanded. He was concerned about the school bus parking and pointed out that stop signs should be installed at Radcliffe and Boxwood. Mr. R. Sherman explained the state law regarding stop signs. Mr. Truesdell stated he would have to study an internal traffic loop system. Mr. Bernheim felt the loop system would cause a safety hazard. They would consider putting in private stop signs on their property. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing August 7, 1985 - Page 2 Commissioner Kaszubowski suggested the Buffalo Grove Police Department be contacted regarding traffic problems at the school entrances. Mr. D. Kinnecki was concerned with the car lights shining in his window. Mr. Golden, who owns a Pharmacy in Buffalo Grove and is on the JCC Board, felt the school should be sold to reduce taxes and if it is not sold the problems mentioned at this meeting would continue. The proposed developer is willing to work out the problems. Commissioner Davis arrived but did not participate in the discussion. Mr. J. Houlab explained the JCC programs. Mr. R. Sherman felt stop signs should be installed. He suggested a change in the parking plan and the traffic flow. He would like to see a curfew for the music school of 9:00 P.M. He felt the fine arts group should be moved to the west side of the building. He was informed by Mr. Truesdell that the Mill Creek basin was not this developer's concern. Mr. J. Nailer was assured that the Federation would have to be in compliance with the Weed Control Ordinance. Mr. M. Stone pointed out that the problems presented at this meeting will continue if the school is not sold. Mr. R. Packratz stated there would be no problem in stopping the music lessons at 9:00 P.M. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 9:10 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman 1 Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing August 7, 1985 - Page 3 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment (Section 17.40.020.A, 17.400.30.B, 17.40.040.B, 17.40.050.B) Washington Irving School Rezoning & Special Use Old Farm Village Unit 3 - Final Plat of Subdivision Old Farm Village Unit 4 - Final Plat of Subdivision August 7, 1985 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 9:21 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Davis Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Demski Mr. Gal Ms. Kaszubowski Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug Mr. Laskie Also Present: Mr. N. Sack, Attorney, Washington Irving School Mr. M. Tarnoff, Developer, Washington Irving School Mr. F. Bernheim, Architect, Washington Irving School Mr. R. Spector, Engineer, Washington Irving School Mr. R. Muraz, 1261 Radcliff, Buffalo Grove Mr. R. Sherman, 778 Stonebridge, Buffalo Grove Mr. E. Kinnecki, 1271 Radcliff, Buffalo Grove Mr. Golden, Buffalo Grove Merchant & JCC Board Mbr. Mr. J. Houlab, JCC Board Member Mr. J. Nailer, 903 Stonebridge, Buffalo Grove Mr. M. Stone, JCC Board Member Mr. R. Packratz, Dir. of the Northwest Music School Mr. T. Moran, Developer, Shell Oil Mini-Mart Mr. W. Woodworth, Engineer, Shell Oil Mini-Mart Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney j l Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner V APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Gal, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of July 17, 1985. Page 3, paragraph 6 change "the north side" to "both sides" and "development's" to "development is". Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioner Goldspiel abstaining and the motion passed. 4 Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Gal to approve the Public Hearing minutes of July 31, 1985. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Goldspiel, Davis and Demski abstaining. The motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Gal to approve the July 31, 1985 Regular Meeting minutes. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Goldspiel, Davis and Demski abstaining. The motion passed. �,•/ COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS Commissioner Kaszubowski attended the August 5, 1985 Village Board meeting and listed the projects that were approved. The Gootrad Property and the Fiore Developments were referred to the Plan Commission. The day care center was not. ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment to sections 17.40.020.A, 17.40.030.B, 17.40.040.B, 17.40.050.B as outlined in the Public Hearing Minutes with A, B, C, D, providing for a private child care center as a special use in the district. Discussion: Commissioner Goldspiel did not participate in the discussion. Mr. Raysa noted this is a change in the Zoning Ordinance and not specifically to the Washington Irving School so that Commissioners Davis and Goldspiel could vote on it as they had stepped down on the Washington Irving School project earlier. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Musfeldt, Demski, Gal and Kaszubowski NAYES: None ABSTAIN: Commissioner Goldspiel ABSENT: Commissioners Krug, Laskie The motion passed 5 - 0. WASHINGTON IRVING SCHOOL REZONING & SPECIAL USE Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski that the the Village Board the Rezoningof Washington Plan Commission recommend to g g Irving School from R-5 to R-7 with a special use for a community center and provide for a child care center. The special use this Commission finds to be in compliance with Section 17.28.040.A of the Ordinances subject to: 1. The landscaping buffer as it has been discussed and agreed to. 2. The agreement for community use of the outdoor playground equipment and, per agreement with the park district, use of their playground equipment. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting August 7, 1985 - Page 2 3. No activities in the building be audible outside the building after 10:00 P.M. 4. Special events parking in nearby parking lots rather than on residential streets and traffic control provided. 5. No expansion beyond JCC uses. 6. Signage be in compliance with the Village Ordinance. 7. Other signage would be stop sign at all exits, encourage parking in the parking lot rather than overflow onto the streets and school bus parking away from the residential area. Discussion: Mr. Raysa stated this special use is not a special use for a church or a place of worship. The following amendments were made and agreed to by the maker and seconder of the motion: 1) All current uses including parochial/private day care center 2) With special use for a community center as outlined in the petition 3) No expansion in tenants not affiliated with the Federation. AYES: Commissioners Musfeldt, Demski, Gal, Kaszubowski NAYES: None ABSTAIN: Commissioners Goldspiel, Davis ABSENT: Commissioners Krug, Laskie The motion passed 4 - 0. SHELL OIL MINI-MART (Lake-Cook & Route 83) Mr. Moran briefly reviewed the plan. He presented a rendering of the building. Commissioner Davis stated that even with two employees, in this 24 hour operation, he felt there would be a delay in purchasing gas while customers wait for others who are purchasing something at the mini-mart and have their cars parked at the pumps. He felt there was a safety problem inside the structure. He also felt there were ample existing facilities in the Village that would handle the type of purchases that are made at mini-marts. Mr. Woodworth explained the drop safe system that they will be using. Mr. Moran stated this is the kind of facility that the public wants. It gives the dealer ancillary income. The oil business is very competitive and this type of station would allow gas prices to be lowered. Commissioner Davis pointed out that the first drive on Lake Cook Road could be eliminated. Mr. Moran noted this could cause a traffic problem and congestion on Route 83. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting August 7, 1985 - Page 3 Commissioner Davis felt the building all the way back on the property line was a mistake and would like to see a traffic study. Commissioner Demski noted this site is similar to the one on Dundee Road and Route 53. Chairman Sheldon was assured that the handicapped patrons would receive service by the on site personnel. Commissioner Gal is in favor of mini-marts. He was informed that the trash enclosure will be masonry 10 ' by 10' and 6' high. He also recommended closing one of the exits on Route 83. Commissioner Musfeldt would like the exits reviewed. Mr. Woodworth stated that the building in the center does not work because customers are not aware of the pumps behind it. The total cost for improving the site is $450,000.00. They have 5 parking spaces, 2 of which will be used by the employees and there are 3 for handicapped parking. Moved by Commissioner Kaszubowski, seconded by Commissioner Demski that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Shell Oil Mini-Mart at Lake/Cook & Route 83 dated May 29, 1985. Discussion: Commissioner Goldspiel opposes this plan. He agrees with the driveway being removed and lack of circulation would be a problem. He felt the front pumps would not be used. AYES: Commissioners Demski, Gal, Kaszubowski, Sheldon NAYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Davis, Musfeldt ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Krug, Laskie The motion passed 4 - 3. The commission was polled to see whether, when the plan is presented to the Village Board it should have a report from the Village Traffic Consultant on the ingress/egress into the property, the internal circulation without requiring a car count, how the closing of a driveway would effect the plan. Yes indicating this is necessary. (Commissioner Goldspiel would like a copy of this traffic report.) AYES: Commissioner Goldspiel, Davis, Musfeldt, Demski, Gal NAYES: Commissioner Kaszubowski ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Krug, Laskie The pool was favorable 5 - 1 Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting August 7, 1985 - Page 4 Commissioner Kaszubowski felt the Commission should not be spending the Village money on a traffic plan for internal circulation. That is the developers problem. The only way traffic counts are determined are on the street. Commissioner Gal agreed with Commissioner Kaszubowski. Chairman Sheldon asked the Commission to consider officially appointing a Vice Chairman. OLD FARM VILLAGE UNITS 3 & 4 Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Gal to defer approval on the Old Farm Village Units 3 & 4 until Mr. Truesdell has had an opportunity to discuss the concerns of the Commission with the developer and the developer is present before the Commission to answer those concerns. Discussion: The concerns were: 1. Unit 4 a loss of 1/2 an acre on Lot 3 open space. 2. Unit 4, centers of the cul-de-sacs becoming outlots rather than being dedicated to the Village. (Mr. Truesdell stated the Village does not want them because there is parking in the centers.) 3. Unit 4, cul-de-sac parking into open space dedicated. 4. Unit 3 there appears to be a discrepancy of approximately 30' between Lot 1 on Crossfield Court and Lot 40 on Devonwood Court 5. Staff review this plan to see if there are any other further changes evident. 6. Unit 3, Sandhurst Drive on the lower end does not add up to the original drawings. AYES: Commissioner Goldspiel, Davis, Musfeldt, Demski, Gal, Kaszubowski NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Krug, Laskie The motion passed 6 - 0. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT None FUTURE AGENDA August 21, 1985 there will be a public hearing on Hidden Lakes Phase 3 and a review of the Old Farm Village Units 3 and 4 Plats if they are ready. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting August 7, 1985 - Page 5 ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Kaszubowski, seconded by Commissioner Gal that the meeting be adjourned. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 11:01 P.M. Respectfully submitted, athleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Nk/e/. Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting August 7, 1985 - Page 6 PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment — Sections 17.40.020.A, 17.40.030.B, 17.40.040.B, 17.40.050.B Li August 7, 1985 Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:30 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Davis Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Demski Mr. Gal Ms. Kaszubowski Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug Mr. Laskie Also Present: Mr. N. Sack, Attorney, Washington Irving School Mr. N. Tarnoff, Developer, Washington Irving School Mr. R. Spector, Engineer, Washington Irving School Mr. F. Bernheim, Architect, Washington Irving School Mr. R. Muraz, 1261 Radcliffe, Buffalo Grove Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the newpspapers and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs. Sack, Tarnoff, Spector and Truesdell. Mr. Truesdell briefly reviewed the proposed zoning ordinance text changes. Mr. Raysa reviewed Mr. Truesdell's memo to the Plan Commission of August 2, 1985 titled Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment and submitted the following changes. The second paragraph should read: Commissioner Goldspiel did not participate in the discussion. SPECIAL USE School A. A public, private or parochial institution which offers instruction in any of the branches of learning and study as taught in the public schools under the Illinois State Board of Education, including pre-kindergarten, elementary schools, junior and senior high schools, colleges and universities. B. Public, private or parochial child care center. C. Trade, business or commercial schools. D. Public school buildings may be used for private and public groups, organizations or legal entities which provide educational, governmental, social and civic services. Mr. Truesdell stated, in response to Mr. Ron Muraz, Resident, the day care center, although titled as non profit is a commercial business. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 7:48 P.M. Respectfully submitted, in C Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: S/7166'4 Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing August 7, 1985 - Page 2