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1984-12-05 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION December 5, 1984 Chatham Manor Unit 3 Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7: 30 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Davis Ms. Reid Mr. Krug Mr. Laskie Commissioners Absent: Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. K. Benkert, Developer Mr. J. McBride, Engineer Ms. S. Janusz, Landscape Planner Mr. F. Vaughan, President Chatham Association Mr. W. Honor, Chatham Resident Ms. M. Russell, Chatham Resident Mr. R. Sims, Chatham Resident Mr. T. Dobbins, Chatham Resident Mr. R. Herwitz, Chatham Resident Mr. D. Haboney, Chatham Resident Mr. R. Brooks, Chatham Resident Ms. E. Jones, Chatham Resident Mr. J. Cohn, Chatham Resident Mr. E. Mallow, Chatham Resident Mr. V. Larkins, Chatham Resident Mr. R. Stubon, Chatham Resident Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer i Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney �•/ Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the newspaper and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She swore in Messrs Benkert, McBride and Ms. Janusz. Mr. Benkert briefly reviewed the existing approved plan and their recent plan. They felt that they would have trouble selling a three story walk up building and added elevators to the buildings which will service all three floors and the garage. The number of apartments and the size was changed in the new plan plus underground parking was added. The new building type is 24 units in 3 story buildings with 8 two bedroom apartments with an underground 25 space garage parking. This plan has more open space. The apartments all have balconies. The shape of the buildings is wider and shorter than the original plan. They will be designed and built as condominiums but they might have to rent them in the beginning. Mr. McBride briefly reviewed the engineering plan. For the east area depressed garages they will have a small lift station plus a back up of a power generator to pump any water that might collect there. In the west area the depressed garages will be serviced by the storm sewer which is sized for a 100 year storm. Ms. Janusz briefly reviewed the landscaping plan. The berms on Dundee Road will be 2' and 3' . The 8' wide concrete walk on Dundee Road is allowed for and will appear on the plan. The additional street lights on Dundee Road and in the parking areas will also be shown on the plan. The berms will not interfere with the sight lines in the intersection. Mr. Kuenkler stated there are several solutions to the water problem and it will be worked out. Mr. Fred Vaughan of 914 Stratford Circle, stated the residents were concerned about the rental issue and the traffic on Dundee Road. Mr. Bill Honor, 777 Weidner Road, stated the residents are against these buildings becoming rental units. In response to Mr. Vaughan, Mr. Benkert stated that this plan is 2 units less dense than the approved plan. In response to Ms. Sharen Olen, 7611 White Pine, Commissioner Davis explained that the developer is asking for a change in plan and not a change in zoning. Ms. Peggy Russel, representative of Chatham Associations 2 and 3, felt the landscaping should provide an adequate buffer from the rental and the condominium units. Mr. Benkert agreed that along the border, on the east lot, the landscaping plan was not adequate. Ms. Lillian Mullen, 832 Stratford Circle, questions how the units would be titled. Mr. Benkert did not know. Mr. Dick Sims, 735 Weidner Road, felt the developer is going to rent these units rather than sell them. Mr. Stone stated the Village does not have the authority to dictate whether these buildings will become rental or privately owned units. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing December 5, 1984 - Page 2 In response to Mr. Tom Dobbins, 682 Hapsfield, Mr. Benkert stated the units will sell for $60,000 to $65,000. Mr. Dobbins felt the transfer of noise and the environmental conditions should be taken into consideration by future buyers and the developer when he builds his buildings. In response to Mr. Ron Herwitz, 913 Stratford, Mr. Benkert stated that the availability of hook ups for washers and dryers will be offered. In response to Donna Haboney, 95 Stratford Circle, Mr. Benkert stated the outside maintenance will be the responsibility of the owner. In response to Mr. Dick Brooks, 915 Stratford Circle, Mr. McBride stated the sewer system will be constructed to take care of the water run off. In response to Mr. Honor, Mr. Benkert stated that the Horizon Corporation's concept at this time is to rent these units. They will break ground on March 1, 1985. Ms. Elaine Jones, 766 White Pine, was concerned about the traffic at Hapsfield and White Pine. In response to Mr. John Cohen, 761 White Pine, Mr. Truesdell noted that Hapsfield Lane is 27' wide. In response to Ms. Ellen Mallow, 838 Stratford Circle, Mr. Benkert stated the construction traffic will be using Hapsfield and White Oaks. Mr. Kuenkler stated there is a temporary construction drive on the east property but the west parcel has none. The developer will have to come to terms on this issue with the Village Board to obtain ingress and egress. The developer will be responsible for the cost of the signal at Dundee Road when the warrants are met. In response to Mr. Vern Larkins, 801 Stratford Circle, Mr. Benkert stated the slope on Weidner Road will follow the existing grade on the west parcel. In response to Mr. Stuban, 664 Weidner, Mr. Benkert stated the buildings are the same height as the existing ones. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 8:43 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: 1/7 Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing December 5, 1984 - Page 3 PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION December 5, 1984 l , First American Bank of Lake County Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 9: 11 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Davis Ms. Reid Mr. Krug Mr. Laskie Commissioners Absent: Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. R. Geudtner, Architect Mr. P. Wescott, Engineer Mr. T. Wells, Chairman of First Bank Mr. T. Thompson, President of First Bank Mr. L. Leicham, Resident of Buffalo Grove Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the newspaper and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs Geudtner, Wescott, Wells, and Thompson. Mr. Geudtner briefly reviewed the plan. They have increased the parking spaces and there is availability of the back out area at the end of the lot. Mr. Wescott reviewed the engineering plan. Mr. Truesdell stated that the additional items the Plan Commission was concerned about have been added to the plan. He then briefly reviewed his survey of other banking institutions in the village regarding parking and stated he feels that the parking ratio on this plan should be adequate for this facility and that it meets the requirements. Mr. Kuenkler stated the landscaping in the right-of-way will be removed and the fee has been paid. In response to Commissioner Krug, Mr. Geudtner stated the future concrete curb is to keep the traffic flowing in the right direction and will go in when they put in the future parking. Mr. Leicham pointed out the location of field tiles and was assured that the developer will take care of them if they should be broken. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 9: 30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing December 5, 1984 - Page 2 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION December 5, 1984 Chatham Manor Unit 3 First American Bank of Lake County Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Unit 2C Resubdivision Old Farm Village Unit 1 Plat of Subdivision Old Farm Village Unit 2 Plat of Subdivision Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 8:43 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Davis Ms. Reid Mr. Krug Mr. Laskie Commissioners Absent: Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. F. Vaughan, Chatham Manor Association President Mr. K. Benkert, Chatham Developer Mr. J. McBride, Chatham Engineer Ms. S. Janusz, Chatham Landscape Designer Mr. R. Geudtner, First Bank Developer Mr. P. Wescott, First Bank Engineer Mr. T. Wells, Chairman First Bank Mr. T. Thompson, President First Bank Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner Moved by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Davis, and unanimously approved, that the Agenda be changed and move Item 6A to Item #1. CHATHAM MANOR UNIT #III Mr. Truesdell stated that staff feels this plan is an improvement and recommends approval as submitted. Moved by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Krug, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the petition to amend the annexation agreement in the R-9 Zoning District in the Chatham Manor Unit III preliminary plan dated November 12, 1984 subject to: 1. Review of the landscaping in light of environmental concerns with particular attention to the west property line on the east parcel. 2. Item #6 on Mr. Kuenkler's Memo of November 28, 1984 to Mr. Truesdell regarding ponding, underground storage area and excess storm water going into the sanitary system. Commissioner Davis suggested the developer get together with the residents regarding his plan. Mr. Laskie felt the plan was an improvement and his concern was the density and traffic. Mr. Truesdell stated there are no variations called for on this plan. Mr. Kuenkler noted that recently some traffic counts were taken for a signal on Dundee Road near the Chatham exit and probably the warrants have been met. The evaluation might be ready in thirty days. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Krug, Laskie NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Shields, Goldspiel, Musfeldt The motion passed 4 - 0. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Laskie, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of October 17, 1984. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed with Commissioners Davis and Krug abstaining. COMMUNICATIONS None LIAISON REPORTS None FIRST AMERICAN BANK OF LAKE COUNTY Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Krug, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the preliminary plat for the First American Bank of Lake County dated November 15, 1984. Mr. Raysa pointed out the field tile is a legal drainage question. The party that changes the drainage is liable for the maintaining adequate drainage. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 5, 1984 - Page 2 AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Krug, Laskie NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Shields, Goldspiel, Musfeldt The motion passed 4 - 0. BUFFALO GROVE COMMERCE CENTER UNIT II C RESUBDIVISION Mr. Truesdell stated the plat is in order and recommends approval subject to total acreage being added to the plat. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Krug, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Unit II C Resubdivision of Lots 20 and 23 dated July 27, 1984 subject to the addition of the total acreage to the plat. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Krug, Laskie NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Shields, Goldspiel, Musfeldt The motion passed 4 - 0. OLD FARM VILLAGE UNIT 1 PLAT OF SUBDIVISION Moved by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Laskie, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of Old Farm Village Unit I Preliminary Plat on the B-2 Zoning District subject to removal of the surface water statement required on the subsidiary drainage plat. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Krug, Laskie NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Shields, Goldspiel, Laskie The motion passed 4 - 0. OLD FARM VILLAGE UNIT 2 PLAT OF SUBDIVISION Moved by Commissioner Krug, seconded by Commissioner Davis, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Old Farm Village Unit II Plat of Resubdivision dated October 29, 1984. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Krug, Laskie NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Shields, Goldspiel, Laskie The motion passed 4 - O. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 5, 1984 - Page 3 FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE Mr. Truesdell noted that the James Development Company was interested in coming before the Commission on December 19, 1984. He also had two items for the January 2, 1984 meeting. The Commission suggested that a full agenda was preferred to a one item agenda for the next meeting. ELECTION OF PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY Nominated by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Laskie, that Commissioner Krug serve as Secretary for the Plan Commission. The nomination was unanimously approved. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Krug, that the meeting be adjourned. The motion unanimously carried and Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 9:47 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY ' 1 Patrick Shields Chairman Li Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 5, 1984 - Page 4