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1985-05-01 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Scarsdale Place Mobile Oil - Buffalo Grove Road & Dundee Road May 1, 1985 Li Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:32 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Davis Mr. Musfeldt Mr. Laskie Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. J. Green, Architect, Scarsdale PlaCE Mr. N. Toberman, Engineer, Scarsdale Place Mr. F. Morelli, Developer, Scarsdale Place Mr. G. Tenner, Attorney, Scarsdale Place Mr. R. Cother, Developer, Mobil Oil Ms. K. Kerr, Engineer, Mobil Oil Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Laskie, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of April 17, 1985. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt, to approve the Public Hearing Meeting minutes of April 17, 1985 on the Amendment to the Buffalo Grove Zoning Ordinance (Sanitary Land Fill) . The motion unanimously carried. Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve the Public Hearing Meeting Minutes of April 17, 1985 on the Annexation & Zoning for the McAndrew Property Page 2, Paragraph 1 delete "comments, were as follows" and add "responded to 6 points identified in Mr. Truesdell's memo. Page 3, Paragraph 1 delete "they". The motion unanimously carried. Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve the Public Hearing Meeting minutes of April 17, 1985 on the Johnson Property. The motion unanimously carried. COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS The James Investment Company property will be reviewed at the May 6, 1985 Village Board meeting. The Plan Commission had recommended against approval of this project. SCARSDALE PLACE Mr. Tenner briefly reviewed the plan stating the property east of their site is Old Farm Village. The Village had requested the developer try to negotiate with Lexington in order to put through a collector street to the east. The property to the west is unincorporated. They have left room for an extension drive to that site. They are requesting three variations, two of which are created by a collector road. They are asking the side yard be 20' instead of 30' on Lots 11 and 12. Lot 15 needs a rear yard variation. Lexington will also need variations on the two lots next to the collector street. They have a 40' rear yard and Lexington has a 40' rear yard which puts the homes 80' apart. Mr. Green briefly reviewed the history of the site. They met with the Village Board between January, 1985 and March, 1985 during which time they went through 4 plans with various changes. The plan went from 36 to 29 sites and the zoning from R-5 to R-4. The detention was moved from the south east to the south west corner because of engineering considerations. The cul-de-sac was shortened from 870' to 350' . The majority of the lots run from 9,000 to 10,000 square feet. A few of the lots are 8,750 square feet. Mr. Toberman passed out a copy of the engineering plan which has not been reviewed by the village staff. He then briefly reviewed the plan. They have a hard time keeping the water on their site and running into the detention basin. There is water running off in all directions. They do not have a good natural outlet on the site. The water runs off behind the cul-de-sac. They cannot get their storm sewer back there. There will be some water back up into the back yards near the pond but it would be in the grass approximately 10' from six of the homes. The detention will be dry. Commissioner Goldspiel did not like the storm water detention accumulating in residents yards and said the detention plan would have to be redone. Mr. Toberman felt the swale was efficient but without reviewing it he could not be sure. Mr. Tenner stated the homes will be 2,200 to 2,500 square feet and cost from $130,000 to $150,000. The interchange on Busch Road was discussed and it was suggested that thermoplastic stripes could be used. Commissioner Musfeldt would like more information on this interchange. Commissioner Goldspiel requested that this development contribute to the reconstruction of the intersection along with the developer who would benefit from the collector street. Trustee Glover stated the connector street is at the request of the Village. The variations are at the request of the developer. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting May 1, 1985 - Page 2 Mr. Green stated Lexington's lots have been established and a variation will be required for the connector street. They would like the same consideration for their project in order to remain consistent. They requested the rear yard variation on Lot 15 because that site ends up with the shallowest developable area. R-5 allows a 35' back yard. Old Farm Village got a number of the same variations. He presented conceptual elevations of the homes. Mr. Truesdell briefly reviewed a letter from the Buffalo Grove Park District stating they would accept a cash donation in lieu of land. Chairman Sheldon would like to see the developer save as many of the large trees as possible. Mr. Green noted that the side yard on Lot 29 could be increased to take care of the high water mark. Mr. Morelli felt they will have a lot of custom homes in this development. The developers agreed to increase the setback on Lots 11 and 12 to 25 feet. The Commission agreed the plan could be moved to a public hearing after the above comments were addressed and no major changes made. MOBIL OIL Mr. Cother noted they are requesting a site plan approval to rebuild the existing service station at Buffalo Grove and Dundee Roads. It will be similar to the station at Arlington Heights Road and Route 83 with a car wash. He briefly reviewed the plan stating the ingress and egress. They will push eastward the car wash at least 5' which will allow for landscaping behind the building and they will move back the landscaping on the opposite side of the plan 5' . The developer will look into putting in a lane so that cars in the shopping center lot can have access to the station without going out onto Dundee Road. They will also install a drainage system exiting the car wash to help prevent ice forming on the street during cold weather. Commissioner Goldspiel felt the plan will greatly increase the traffic at this site. Ms. Kerr explained that they will not bring more traffic to the site but hope to capture the traffic going by the site. People do not go out of their way to buy gas. The Commissioners concurred that this plan should go to a public hearing when all the necessary paperwork is in. Mr. Truesdell will have, for the Commission's review, how the roadway system and the parking will be effected by this development. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT Chairman Sheldon noted two people were interviewed for the Plan Commission and could be appointed at the May 6, 1985 Board meeting. Mr. Goldberg will be submitting his letter of resignation due to his increasing business schedule. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting May 1, 1985 - Page 3 FUTURE AGENDA May 15, 1985 there will be a workshop on the Buffalo Grove Business Park Expansion. May 29, 1985 there could be an additional Plan Commission Meeting. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Laskie and unanimously carried that the meeting be adjourned. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 10:01 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Jam' 7 ' K'athleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED �BY: d Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting May 1, 1985 - Page 4