1985-05-01 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Scarsdale Place
Mobile Oil - Buffalo Grove Road & Dundee Road
May 1, 1985
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Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:32 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Davis
Mr. Musfeldt
Mr. Laskie
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug
Mr. Goldberg
Also Present: Mr. J. Green, Architect, Scarsdale PlaCE
Mr. N. Toberman, Engineer, Scarsdale Place
Mr. F. Morelli, Developer, Scarsdale Place
Mr. G. Tenner, Attorney, Scarsdale Place
Mr. R. Cother, Developer, Mobil Oil
Ms. K. Kerr, Engineer, Mobil Oil
Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Laskie, to approve
the Regular Meeting minutes of April 17, 1985. Approval was unanimous in
favor and the motion passed.
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt, to approve the
Public Hearing Meeting minutes of April 17, 1985 on the Amendment to the
Buffalo Grove Zoning Ordinance (Sanitary Land Fill) . The motion unanimously
carried.
Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve
the Public Hearing Meeting Minutes of April 17, 1985 on the Annexation &
Zoning for the McAndrew Property Page 2, Paragraph 1 delete "comments, were
as follows" and add "responded to 6 points identified in Mr. Truesdell's
memo. Page 3, Paragraph 1 delete "they". The motion unanimously carried.
Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Davis, to approve
the Public Hearing Meeting minutes of April 17, 1985 on the Johnson Property.
The motion unanimously carried.
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
The James Investment Company property will be reviewed at the May 6, 1985
Village Board meeting. The Plan Commission had recommended against approval
of this project.
SCARSDALE PLACE
Mr. Tenner briefly reviewed the plan stating the property east of their site
is Old Farm Village. The Village had requested the developer try to
negotiate with Lexington in order to put through a collector street to the
east. The property to the west is unincorporated. They have left room for
an extension drive to that site. They are requesting three variations, two
of which are created by a collector road. They are asking the side yard be
20' instead of 30' on Lots 11 and 12. Lot 15 needs a rear yard variation.
Lexington will also need variations on the two lots next to the collector
street. They have a 40' rear yard and Lexington has a 40' rear yard which
puts the homes 80' apart.
Mr. Green briefly reviewed the history of the site. They met with the
Village Board between January, 1985 and March, 1985 during which time they
went through 4 plans with various changes. The plan went from 36 to 29
sites and the zoning from R-5 to R-4. The detention was moved from the south
east to the south west corner because of engineering considerations. The
cul-de-sac was shortened from 870' to 350' . The majority of the lots run
from 9,000 to 10,000 square feet. A few of the lots are 8,750 square feet.
Mr. Toberman passed out a copy of the engineering plan which has not been
reviewed by the village staff. He then briefly reviewed the plan. They have
a hard time keeping the water on their site and running into the detention
basin. There is water running off in all directions. They do not have a
good natural outlet on the site. The water runs off behind the cul-de-sac.
They cannot get their storm sewer back there. There will be some water back
up into the back yards near the pond but it would be in the grass
approximately 10' from six of the homes. The detention will be dry.
Commissioner Goldspiel did not like the storm water detention accumulating in
residents yards and said the detention plan would have to be redone.
Mr. Toberman felt the swale was efficient but without reviewing it he could
not be sure.
Mr. Tenner stated the homes will be 2,200 to 2,500 square feet and cost from
$130,000 to $150,000.
The interchange on Busch Road was discussed and it was suggested that
thermoplastic stripes could be used. Commissioner Musfeldt would like more
information on this interchange. Commissioner Goldspiel requested that this
development contribute to the reconstruction of the intersection along with
the developer who would benefit from the collector street.
Trustee Glover stated the connector street is at the request of the Village.
The variations are at the request of the developer.
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Regular Meeting
May 1, 1985 - Page 2
Mr. Green stated Lexington's lots have been established and a variation will
be required for the connector street. They would like the same consideration
for their project in order to remain consistent. They requested the rear
yard variation on Lot 15 because that site ends up with the shallowest
developable area. R-5 allows a 35' back yard. Old Farm Village got a number
of the same variations. He presented conceptual elevations of the homes.
Mr. Truesdell briefly reviewed a letter from the Buffalo Grove Park District
stating they would accept a cash donation in lieu of land.
Chairman Sheldon would like to see the developer save as many of the large
trees as possible.
Mr. Green noted that the side yard on Lot 29 could be increased to take care
of the high water mark.
Mr. Morelli felt they will have a lot of custom homes in this development.
The developers agreed to increase the setback on Lots 11 and 12 to 25 feet.
The Commission agreed the plan could be moved to a public hearing after the
above comments were addressed and no major changes made.
MOBIL OIL
Mr. Cother noted they are requesting a site plan approval to rebuild the
existing service station at Buffalo Grove and Dundee Roads. It will be
similar to the station at Arlington Heights Road and Route 83 with a car
wash. He briefly reviewed the plan stating the ingress and egress. They
will push eastward the car wash at least 5' which will allow for landscaping
behind the building and they will move back the landscaping on the opposite
side of the plan 5' . The developer will look into putting in a lane so that
cars in the shopping center lot can have access to the station without going
out onto Dundee Road. They will also install a drainage system exiting the
car wash to help prevent ice forming on the street during cold weather.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt the plan will greatly increase the traffic at
this site.
Ms. Kerr explained that they will not bring more traffic to the site but hope
to capture the traffic going by the site. People do not go out of their way
to buy gas.
The Commissioners concurred that this plan should go to a public hearing when
all the necessary paperwork is in.
Mr. Truesdell will have, for the Commission's review, how the roadway system
and the parking will be effected by this development.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Chairman Sheldon noted two people were interviewed for the Plan Commission
and could be appointed at the May 6, 1985 Board meeting.
Mr. Goldberg will be submitting his letter of resignation due to his
increasing business schedule.
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Regular Meeting
May 1, 1985 - Page 3
FUTURE AGENDA
May 15, 1985 there will be a workshop on the Buffalo Grove Business Park
Expansion.
May 29, 1985 there could be an additional Plan Commission Meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Laskie and unanimously
carried that the meeting be adjourned. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the
meeting at 10:01 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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' K'athleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED
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Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission
Regular Meeting
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