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1980-03-12 - Plan Commission - Minutes} SPECIAL MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Zoning Map and Official Map Update Office and Industrial District Revision to the Zoning Ordinance MARCH 12, 1980 Chairperson Sheldon called the meeting to order in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove at 7:30 P.M. Commissioners Present: Chairperson Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel - arrived at 7:45 P.M. Mrs. Reid Mr. Shifrin Mr. Glover Mrs. Kaszubowski Commissioners Absent: Chairman Shields Mr. Button Mr. Davis Also Present: Mr. John Marienthal, Village Trustee, Buffalo Grove Mr. Jim Truesdell, Village Planner, Buffalo Grove APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Shifrin moved that the minutes of March 5, 1980 Regular Meeting be approved subject to correction. Commissioner Glover seconded. The motion carried unanimously. Paragraph 4, page 1, change Mr. Jerry Lindgren to Mr. Ted Shapero Change Mr. Lindgren to Mr. Shapero Paragraph 3, page 2; Paragraph 6, page 2; Paragraph 2, page 5; Paragraphs 4, 6, 7, 10, page 6. Last paragraph, page 2 change 8 - 0 to 7 - 0 Last paragraph, page 3 change Marrienthal to Marienthal Paragraph 7, page 4 add parkway to some detention in the parkway of the Office Park area. Paragraph 3, page 5, change fourth sentence to read Mr. Hruby said "in his opinion "yes". Add to fifth sentence Mr. Boysen said I am not Paragraph 5, page 5, change multi-family to commercial Paragraph 3, page 7 change 7 - 0 to 7 - 1 Paragraph 10, page 7 change condominum to condominium Paragraph 13, page 7 change 9 - 0 to 8 - 0 Commissioner Reid moved that the minutes of the Public Hearing held on March 12, 1980 be approved subject to correction. Commissioner Shifrin seconded. The motion carried unanimously. Paragraph 7, page 1 add a comma after $15 Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting March 12, 1980 - 2 - COMMUNICATIONS Chairperson Sheldon - Harper College is sponsoring a seminar called'l°utting The Pieces Togethezi: The material was passed to the Commissioners for viewing. LIAISON REPORTS None COMMI'1"1'r;L REPORTS None ZONING MAP Mr. Truesdell - We took the March, 1979 map, updated it and incorporated any changes. The changes are as follows: 1) Annexation of Northwest Community Hospital B3 south of Lake Cook Road. 2) Annexation of the Dearborn property classified as R1 and R9 (PUB) 3) Checked the boundaries of the surrounding communities and made changes to bring the map up to date. 4) The B2 parcel of the Ridgewood area south of Armstrong and Weiland, and south of Armstrong and Horatio has reverted to R8 because there has been no construction for five years. Mr. Goldspiel - The Hidden Lakes should have an asterisk because it is a planned unit development. Commissioner Reid moved to recommend to the Village Board adoption of the Zoning Map as presented at the March 12, 1980 meeting. Commissioner Glover seconded. Ayes: Commissioners Goldspiel, Reid, Shifrin, Glover, Kaszubowski Nayes None The motion passed 5 - 0. OFFICIAL MAP Mr. Truesdell - We are updating the Official Map. It has not been done since 1978. It is part of the Comprehensive Plan and it requires a Public Hearing. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting March 12, 1980 - 3 - I The changes being made are changes due to annexations, the Weidner Road extension, updating the boundries of the surrounding municipalities. Commissioner Goldspiel - What about the north-south road between Weiland and Milwaukee and the crossing of the Soo Line at Candlewood Creek East and up? Mr. Truesdell - I haven't changed it on this map but it will be incorporated with the update of the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Goldspiel - The bike paths are not shown along major streets. Mr. Truesdell - It is under review right now. We do not have the entire Compre- hensive Plan prepared yet. When it comes out the recommended bike paths will be on it. A Public Hearing for the Official Map was set for April 2, 1980. IOR Mr. Truesdell discussed his memo dated March 7, 1980 to the Plan Commission on the Office and Industrial District Ordinance Revisions. Suggested changes are as follows. Item 2 - Mr. Goldspiel felt it should read 50 feet no more than 4 stories. Setback Item 3 - Commissioners Glover and Reid felt that the parking stalls should be Parking Stalls left the way they are. Item 4 - Commissioner Goldspiel was uncomfortable with the wording in section Slope 2.9-3 last sentence - However, whenever berms are created for aesthetic or screening purposes, they should be created with lesser slopes, such as one (1) foot of elevation in four (4) horizontal feet. He felt it should read "However, the Village at its discretion, can require a four (4) to one (1) slope for aesthetic or screening purposes. " Commissioner Glover - A three (3) to one (1) slope is very hard to maintain in my opinion. li Mr. Truesdell - I can change it to read, "-requires four (4) to one (1) unless it is shown that something greater than that is adequate. " In response to a question from Commissioner Goldspiel,Mr. Truesdell stated that there is no specific written requirement at present. It `./ is preferred to have a four (4) to one (1) slope but three (3) to one (1) is approved in many cases if adequate. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting March 12, 1980 - 4 - I Item 5 - Commissioner Shifrin - I think if any of these developments are going Landscaping to be show cases we should be able to give the developers some alter- natives. There should be some encouragement toward the use of creativity regarding landscaping. Commissioner Goldspiel - We are not controlling the landscaping of anything other than the parkway. Mr. Marienthal - To have a tree every thirty feet, I feel, is not necessary in an industrial park. If they would use some creativity over and above what has to be done, it would not have to be in the parkway but on his own property. Commissioner Goldspiel - The parkway tree planting must be considered by the Appearance Commission in an overall plan. Commissioner Shifrin - There should be some incentive to do something other than what is required. Commissioner Goldspiel - Are we saying we would accept landscaping on private property in lieu of parkway trees? Commissioner Glover - I would like to see the trees remain on public property. Commissioner Shifrin - There should be some room for creativity, they should not have to conform to the symmetry of the development. After some discussion it was determined to leave the language as is. Item 6 - Commissioner Goldspiel - From what I have seen of UPSterminals, they Freight are very big. You have large trailers coming off of freight trains Terminals and loads from over-the-road trailers. I do not see a distinction be- tween a smaller package or a carload. I think that this type of freight terminal is very unlikely in our area. Terminals are usually located near major interchanges. I cannot see legislating out what you can control under a special use. We should leave it as is. Item 8 - Commissioner Goldspiel - I feel eight (8) feet is too restrictive Outside as stated in 2.3-7. Storage Mr. Truesdell - That is the language used in the current M-1 Ordinance. Commissioner Shifrin - I feel it should read six (6) feet minimum. Item 9 - Commissioner Goldspiel - I do not understand the intent as stated in Free Standing paragraph 1 under 2. 1. Office Buildings After some discussion it was determined to leave the word"those' out. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting March 12, 1980 - 5 - Commissioner Shifrin noted that in 2. 1 the reference to Section 2. 8 should be charged to 2.9. Item 10 - Mr. Truesdell - Mr. Don Asher, owner of the Hilltown Property, Height Limitations objects to not being allowed to build ten (10) story buildings. I still prefer to keep the existing industrial district. If we establish a separate district to allow taller buildings we will be opening up the possibility of ten (10) story buildings all around the Village. I feel the Village Center should be the high point of the Village and things should taper down from there. I feel we should leave it as is and allocate them as a special use. Mr. Asher feels very strongly that ten (10) story buildings should be allowed. Item 11 - Chairperson Sheldon noted that there is an ordinance that is very Accessory specific regarding this point. We feel that the Appearance Commission Retail should do their job. Item 12 - Commissioner Goldspiel - Can we call Lane Kendig to look at this? Performance Standards Mr. Truesdell - The industrial section is separate from the residential. I will call Mr. Kendig and make an appointment to have him look this over. Commissioner Goldspiel - On page 9 section 2.9-9, 1010 strikes me as way to high. The people surrounding the area are getting about 1/3 the dose the workers are. Commissioner Reid - Are we subject to any review by any county, state, or anyone else? Mr. Truesdell, in response to a question from Chairperson Sheldon, replied that the 10=p was taken out of the new ordinance that Lincolnshire passed. Commissioner Glover - OSHA must have guidelines or standards on this. Mr. Truesdell will check into this. Commissioner Goldspiel - Page 5 section 2.6-5, when we are generally opposed to stockade fencing, why do we call for one in these two dis- tricts? Mr. Truesdell - We have a problem in the Village with the landscaping used as a buffer. The residents have complained, as in the Strathmore Shopping Center area, that the landscaping buffer did not maintain their privacy. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting March 12, 1980 - 6 - I Mr. Marienthal - In addition to the fencing they had to put in plantings. It is a requirement over and above. The fencing is basically for the line of sight. Mr. Truesdell responsing to a question from Chairperson Sheldon stated that his next step would be to research these issues, make the changes and come back to the Plan Commission with a final document. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT Chairperson Sheldon stated that she would like to see more interaction between the Chairman and the Village Planner in scheduling the Plan Commission meetings. After some discussion it was determined that Mr. Truesdell would call Chairman Shields the Thursday before the Wednesday meeting to discuss the agenda. It was further decided that there would only be Regular Meetings on the first and third Wednesdays of the month leaving the second and fourth for Workshop Meetings if necessary. FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE The next meeting of the Plan Commission will be held on April 2, 1980. STAFF REPORT Mr. Truesdell - We are now in the process of putting together three land use plans for the Comprehensive Plan. We want to come up with three alternatives and bring them back to the Plan Commission for discussion. The Fiore project is going before the Village Board on March 24, 1980. There will be two alternate plans presented. The positions of Vice Chairman and Secretary for the Plan Commission do not have to be approved by the Village Board. We are now in the process of putting together a chronology of the Village's past activity regarding a Condominium Ordinance. Commissioner Shifrin suggested looking at Arlington Heights Condominium Ordinance. Commissioner Glover moved that the meeting be adjourned. Commissioner Goldspiel seconded. The motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 P.M. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting March 12, 1980 i i i �I i - 7 - Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: (121?4 /3-(.../M)7_, Patrick Shields, Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Special Meeting February 20, 1980