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1980-10-23 - Zoning Board of Appeals - Minutes 1 APPEARANCE COMMISSION VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVEL ILL. THURSaOCT_ 23, 1980 I. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting to order at 7:38 P.M. on Thurs. , Oct. 21. 1980 at the Village Hall.. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Present: L. Kirby, Lou Paolillo, D. Knaak, L. Gibbs and D. Hardt. Commissioners Absent: M. Holland and P. Carr. Quorum Present. Bldg. Department: James D. Griffin. Asst. Bldg. and Zoning Adm. III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES Sept. 25, 1980 — Deferred (Commissioners not present who attended the Meeting.) Oct. 9. 1980 — — Corrections: P. 4 — Square footage should be 1,100 and 1 ,800. P. 4 — Strike Paragraph No. ? of Mr. Hardt' s statement. Com. Gibbs made a motion to accept the minutes as amended. Com. Kirby seconded. Roll- Call Vote: Paolillo, Kirby. Gibbs and Hardt — Aye Knaak Abstain Minutes of Oct. 9, 19PO annroved as corrected. IV. BUSINESS p) Buffalo Grove Datsun — Banners and Lights Mr,Lloyd Fried presented photographs of the lights they vronose to erect on top of the bui ldina. They will be shielded from the Sidewalk and will light the area in front of the showroom about 40 ft. wide by 80 ft. long. There will be three (3) lights mounted at a L.5 degree angle. They will be painted out the color of the mansard and will be about 18 inches high. They are the same fixture as the security lights in the rear. The Purpose of the lights i_s to allow appraisers to see cars. Com. Kirby made the following motion: I move we approve the lighting presented by Buffalo Grove Datsun as presented: which would be three(3) building mounted l 7_ghts — Stonco Line — Cool Cube Floodlight with High Pressure Sodium or Quartz Li ghts (Cool White) with the' following stipulations: 1 — The light will extend only to the Northern edge of the parking lot and to the East and West edges of the narking lot. ? — They are shielded so that they do not shine to the rear. 3 — The lights are to be in operation only when Buffalo Grove Datsun i.s open for business; and will be extinguished at closing. 4 — They will be on the front of the building. mounted on top of the mansard. and are approxi— mately eighteen (18) inches high. `.J Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was Taken. Aye — Paolillo. Kirby. Gibbs. Knaak and Hardt. Nav — None Motion Passed 5 to 0. i V V Mr. Stavin asked that Buffalo Grove Datsun be permitted to display banners attached to the light poles for their Grand Opening from Oct. 31 to Nov. 9. This type of banner is allowed under the Sign Code Sec. 6.7b - Com. Gibbs made the following motion I make a motion to allow Buffalo Grove Dataun to put un Temporary signage from Oct. 31, 1980 through Nov. 14. 1980 - 15 days. This temporary signage includes pennants to be installed as they desire: also Grand Opening Banner. i.f they so desire. Com. Paoli llo seconded the notion. Roll Call vote was taken. Aye - Paol i l 1 o, Knaak, Kirby, Gibbs and Hardt. Nay - None Motion Passed 5 to 0, b) Early Learning Center - Wall Si gn Mr. George Woock of White Way Sign Co. Presented nhotographs of the ELC Bldg. as seen from Mc Henry Road. The building is barely visable. ELC is requesting a wall sign be put on the building made of 1/4 inch aluminum (baked-on white enamel), non illuminated mounted into the mortar ioints. The Commission asked if vandelism has been considered since the letters would be very low. Mr. Woock said that is the reason that his company suggested the type of letters presented. The question of whether the letters should conform with the Strathmore Shopping Center Sign Package and i.f so then the letters should be Helvetica. After di cussion it was decided that this i.s an entirely separate Parcel and would not have to be the same a.s the rest of the center. Ch. Hardt noted that ELC has filed a suit against the Village of Buffalo Grove for the right to erect a ground sign on Rt. 83. Should he wi..n the lawsuit, he would still be allowed (under the new Sign Code) to have a wall sign of un to 20% of the sign face. The sign requested is below the 20% allowed. The corporate name of the ELC is Rainbow Path Early Learning Center and Mr. Olson is changing the signage on his other buildings. It is not known for sure i_f the narcel is a separate parcel, but the Commission did not obiect to the style of letters or the size requested. Com. Paolillo made the following motion: I make a motion to accent the Rainbow Path Early Learning Center wall sign as submitted. Com. Kirby seconded the motion. Roll Cal]_ Vote: Aye - Gibbs, Knaak, Kirby, Paoli llo and Hardt. Nav - None Motion Passed 5 to 0. c) Pulte Corporation - Signs on Trailer Ms. Sharon Covey presented the requested signs and explained that they need the signage to identify their models and the sales trailer. The models will be comn]eted by Dec. lath (Hopefully' sn.d the ret•i SAMS Irhi:.ch were nrevi ously ar nroved will be nut un then.. The trailer is located in the nnrki ng lot and will not be used after the models are finished. The si_nns being reviewed are temporary. Photogranhs of the trai ler with two signs, the narking sign and new mode] signs were presented. APPEARANCE COMMISSION Oct. 23. 1 Q80 - Pare Two L/ Com. Knaak objected to the number of signs that are now within 14 of a mile, Ms. Covey said that when the new sandblasted sign is made the large billboard sign will come down and. They need temporary signage until the models are opened. Com. Kirby noted that this trailer has never been annroved. It has no skirt, is not landscaped as the Commission usually requires, and is in need of better stairs. Ms. Covey and the Sales Manager explained the need for the trailer to be identified. Since the signs were placed on the trailer,~many people have come in to the office. Mr. Griffin explained that the original Permit t was issued as a construction trailer and electrici ty was requested. The photo showed the electrical wiring was very unattractive, Ms. Covey suggested they skirt the trailer, fix the exposed wiring, and being to put in the landscaping. The trailer is located in the narking lot (#4) and can be made more attractive by Painting the stairs and entry Platform. The Commission noted that the appearance of the trailer is not very conclusive to selling houses as it is and felt it would be advantageous to Pulte to inprove it. Chairman Hardt asked for three motions — Trailer, Information Signs and Model suns. Motion No. 1 — Made by Com, Knaak as follows: I move we accent the Pulte Sales Trailer with the following ,stinu:_ati one: a) That it be skirted. b) That the stairs and norch be na1 nted c) The Tanglewood Informati on si.en on the rear is to be remoired & Sales Office sign to be removed, d) The el ectri cal s are to be fixed to look better. e) Landscaninp as annroved for the narking Tot i_s to be started. Com. Paol:i l_lo seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Gibbs, Knaak, Paolillo, Kirby, & Hardt. Nay — None Motion Passed 5 to 0. Moti on No. ? — Made by Com. Gibbs: I move we approve the Information on Center sign on the front of the Sales Trailer. Com. Knack seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — G:i_bbs. Knaak. Pao1 illo. Kirby and Hardt. Nay — None Motion Passed 5 to 0. Motion No, 3 — Made by Com. Kirby: I move we approve one (1) model sign (Under Constriction) and that it be placed between the two models on Gail Dr. as nreoented, Ch. Nardt seconded the motion. Before the vote was taken,. Com, Knaak expressed hi.s concern that if the Commi ssi on APPEARANCE COMMISSION Oct. 23. 1980 — Pas'e Three 7 f annroves this tune of si en that other sub-d.ivisi.ons will also want to identify their models while under construction. Com. Kirby added the following amendment to the motion: That this one (1) New Model Under Construction sign be erected for a neriod of time not to extend beyond Dec. 15- 1980, L./ Com. Paolillo commented that the Commission should not be swayed by the fact that this sign is already un and should consider it as a new nronosal, Ch. Hardt seconded the amendment and called for a vote: Roll was osl1_ed.: Aye -,Kirby Nay - Gibbs, Knaak, Paol_i.li o and Hardt. Motion Denied - 4 to 1 . d) First Federal of Chicago Michael J. Ammer and Bob Michalowski rresented a model of the building which will be located where the Bonanza restaurant stands on Dundee Road. The Bonanza build-- inn will be renovated. The red roof will be removed, but the basic structure will remain. The outside will be finished with Wyoming White Quartz which will give it the annearance of nre-cast panels. The parapet will be about 15 ft. high. At this time, it is uncertain where the electri cal units wi 11 be located. In the past they have dropped the roof i.n one area and nut the units there. They will not toe seen. The drive-in area and curb cut are so designed to create the least amount of traffic flow out on Dundee Road. It was noted that this is a Savings and Loan. not a bank. and they only have about 1C% drive-in customers. They hone to begin soon but weather is a factor because the quartz must be sprayed on in good weather. `./ The front of the building will be steel studding with exteri or Plywood with Qtmartz.. Drainage may _ be interior. They will meet the Buffalo Grove codes. They ?,rill_ ti.e into the sewers if nossibl e. The electrical and tel_eohone lines wi 1.1 nroba.bl.y be overhead; but if it is possible they will be underground. It depends upon the other wiring in the area. In the older sections it is overhead. Glass will be clear because dark glass does not give good exposure from the street. Frames around windows will be anodized bronze. No Logos on the door handles. Rear doors will be painted out. Trash w 11 be stored behind a wall. The rear of the building mill be nicely landscaped- No si.snage or li cihting vas requested at this time. These things will be submitted later. Como Knaak made the foil owing moti on: I move we accent the Architecture of the First Federal of Chicago (Savings and Loan) as rresented with the following atinulati ons: 1 -White. glass will be used (not dark as indi_cated). 2 - Utilities, roof ton units, and drainage will be clarified at a later date. 3 Wyoming White Quartz (as ner sample) to be used as submitted, 4 — Si gnage, Li ghti.ng. Landscaning and Trash recenticles will be considered at a later date. Com. Kirby seconded the motion. Roll. Call. Vote was taken: Aye - Paoli 1_lo. Gibbs, Kirby, Knaak and Hardt.� -- -- ----- - Nay - None Motion Passed 5 to 0. APPEARANCE COMMISSION w 1. AA 1/ PL/1 •1 -- T___ . ele _ Li Ch. Hardt commended the two gentlemen on the nroi a ct and added that the Pylon sign there now would need a variation from the ZBA in order to comply with the sign Code. He asked that they bring in a comnlete sign nackage. e) Village Fire Station - at 109 East Busch Road. Ch. Hardt noted that his comnanv Novak and Demnsey did the soil borings for the nroiect but that would not effect his decision. ' Mr.Knoepnel presented a drawing of the nronosed new Buffalo Grove Fire Station. He described the construction. The building will be monolithic. Facia - Drivi t material. The brick i..s the same color as the Public Works Bldg. but smaller. Mortar will be the same color as the brick. The glass will be tinted bronze. Window frames and doors are a bronze, duronodic, anodized aluminum. Windows in the doors are clear glass. The doors are triple insulated and will be brown. Lighting will be purchased by the Village and will probably bethe same as at the Public Service Center. Small bronze "up and down" lights with white bulbs. The Village will landscape. There are no roof ton units. All Air-conditioning units are self contained. Back louvers are all painted out to match the bri ck. Roof access ladder will be near the rear and will be painted out. Soffits also plaster material. Service doors will be Painted out. The Commissioners had no questions, and saw no problems with the construction. Com. Kirby made the following motion: I move we accept the plans for the Buffalo Grove Fire Station, 109 East Busch Rd., as submitted. Construction materials: Brick is Cimeron Blend from Cloud Ceramics Drivit Material (off white/cream) as per sample. Overhead doors to be a color similar to the brick. Tinted bronze glass extent in the doors which is clear glass Exterior lights on building to be duranodic bronze. Louvers at rear na_in+Pd nut to match the brick. No exposed vents. Interior drains. service All/doors Tn ll_ be painted out to match the brick. Bumper nosts nain.ted out to match bldg. Com. Gibbs seconded the motion, Roll. Call. Vote: Aye - Paoli_llon Knpak4 Gibbs. Ki.rby & Hardt. Nav - None Motion Passed 5 to 0 APPEARANCE COMMISSION Oct. 2'L 1980 - Page Five r - • V. ANNOUNCEMENTS Com.Paoli..l_lo asked Mr. Griffin to check the Kaufman and Broad sign still on the host near the Oak Creed Condominiums. Ch. Hardt asked about the Lieberman sign. Mr. Griffin said they will be on the next agenda.. Ch. Hardt asked that-• lights be turned off until then. The Commission discussed the Sign Code Section 6.7 — Prohibited signs. It was decided that until the Code is codified. only pennants lid string signs will be allowed hermits without bei.n.g presented to the Commission. Lights or curb signs must be reviewed. Ch. Hardt asked for two volunteers to meet with him to review ew the Sian Code: esnecially to write exnli_cit definitions. After a. draft is finishei the Annear— anee Commission can meet vi.th the ZBA. Then after final changes a nubl i c hearing must be held before the Code can be adopted by the Village Board. Commissi orPrs Kirby and ?{na.nk said they would be on the Committee. The other Commi ssi oners should be reviewing the Si Pri Code and make notes so thst when it is nresen.ted all changes will be considered before submitting i+. +.r, the 7A. The snecial committee will meet at Ch. Hardt's on 'Wed., Oct. 29. 1980. Mr. Gri.ffin reported that Mr. Lou Shasslan was issued a citation at the Commons for not removing the Home Show sign. VI- ADJOURNMENT Com. Knaak made a, motion to adjourn at 10:10 P.M. Com. Gibbs seconded the motion, The Commissioners voted Aye — Unanimously. `i'he meeting a.diourned. Re sne ctfully submi.tted, ,....-<ER:AA.,(7- Shirley Bat Secretary Annea.ran ce Commission Village of Buffalo Grove. APPEARANCE COMMISSION sb Oct. 23.1.980 — Page Six Y . 0