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2011-04-12 - Zoning Board of Appeals - Minutes PREYS REGULAR MEETING s'maim‘Tit SI17�!J BUFFALO GROVE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 Chairman Entman called the Zoning Board of Appeals regular meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 in the Council Chambers of the Village Hall, 50 Raupp Boulevard. ROLL CALL Commissioners Present: Commissioner Stein Commissioner Steingold Commissioner Windecker Commissioner Shapiro Commissioner Au Chairman Entman Commissioners Absent: Commissioner Lesser Also Present: Brian Sheehan, Deputy Building Commissioner William Raysa, Village Attorney Trustee Eric Smith APPROVAL OF MINUTES March 15, 2011 minutes: Com. Stein made a motion to approve the minutes of the Zoning Board of Appeals regular meeting held on Tuesday, March 15, 2011. Com. Shapiro seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE — Stein, Steingold, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY — None ABSTAIN — Windecker Motion Passed 5 to 0, 1 Abstention. Minutes approved as submitted. OLD BUSINESS CHEVY CHASE BUSINESS PARK, HAMILTON PARTNERS — REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE, LEASE SIGNS AT MILWAUKEE AVENUE AND LAKE COOK ROAD; 1001 JOHNSON DRIVE; AND 1098 JOHNSON DRIVE Mr. Jim Lang, Hamilton Partners, 300 Park Boulevard, Itasca, Illinois 60143, was present and sworn in. ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 1 of 11 . t'711 er##•"*"1, r •••3 # • • • °••• ,I,‘‘ . , • t 1111 ftosi Mr. Lang explained that the sign located at the two-story building at 1001 Johnson Drive has been removed. They have sold the two-story building. They are working on preparing documentation to submit a permit for a new sign to be installed a little bit to the east. There has not been much change in the other two (2)buildings as well as the vacant land. Com. Stein asked the Board if they would be amenable to extending the status review for more than six (6) months to possibly nine (9) months. Ch. Entman stated that he likes to review the signs every six (6) months to keep a handle on the signs. Corn. Windecker stated that he would not object to nine (9) months. Mr. Lang stated that as a landlord, they are really anxious to get the leasing signs down. Corn. Shapiro also likes to review the signs every six (6) months to watch the conditions of the signs. He understands that the buildings will never have full occupancy because there always seems to be tenants rolling in and out. Ch. Entman stated that he would like the review to remain at six (6) months. He also confirmed that the sign at 1001 Johnson Drive has been removed. There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Corn. Windecker made a motion to grant a six (6) month extension for Chevy Chase Business Park, Hamilton Partners, for the "For Rent, Sale or Lease" signs located at 1080-1098 Johnson Drive and at Lake Cook Road and Milwaukee Avenue. Petitioner to appear at the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals meeting for a status review of the signs. Corn. Stein seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein, Steingold, Windecker, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY—None ABSTAIN—None Motion Passed 6 to 0. Item to appear on the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda. NEW BUSINESS ROGERS CENTRE FOR COMMERCE, ARTHUR J. ROGERS & COMPANY — REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE, LEASE SIGN LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BARCLAY BOULEVARD AND APTAKISIC ROAD Mr. Norman Ross, Arthur J. Rogers & Company, 1601 Barclay Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois 60089, was present and sworn in. Mr. Ross explained that they have made some progress. They seem to take two (2) steps forward and one (1) step back. There is some activity out there but they are losing tenants. They have a little more than four hundred thousand (400,000) feet of which one hundred twenty five thousand (125,000) is vacant. That brings them to an approximate ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 2 of 11 thirty (30) percent vacancy. The signs do bring in traffic. They are asking to allow the sign to remain for another six (6) months. There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Com. Windecker made a motion to grant a six (6) month extension for Rogers Centre for Commerce, Arthur J. Rogers & Company, for the "For Rent, Sale or Lease" sign located at the southwest corner of Barclay Boulevard and Aptakisic Road. Petitioner to appear at the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals meeting for a status review of the sign. Com. Shapiro seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE — Stein, Steingold, Windecker, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY — None ABSTAIN — None Motion Passed 6 to 0. Item to appear on the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda. BUFFALO GROVE BUSINESS PARK, HAMILTON PARTNERS — REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE, LEASE SIGNS LOCATED AT 1110 LAKE COOK ROAD AND 135 ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROAD Ms. Martha Curnow, Hamilton Partners, 1130 Lake Cook Road, Buffalo Grove, Illinois 60089, was present and sworn in. Ms. Curnow explained that they have the two (2) existing leasing signs. They have the signs for the same purposes as the others, to try and increase their occupancy rates at the Buffalo Grove Business Park. They would like to continue to keep the signs up for the next six (6) months. Ch. Entman stated that he is a tenant in the 1110 Lake Cook Road building, but this will not affect his decision. There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Com. Windecker made a motion to grant a six (6) month extension for Buffalo Grove Business Park, Hamilton Partners, for the "For Rent, Sale, Lease" signs located at 1110 Lake Cook Road and 135 Arlington Heights Road. Petitioner to appear at the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals for a status review of the signs. Corn. Shapiro seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE — Stein, Steingold, Windecker, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY — None ABSTAIN — None ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 3 of 11 Motion Passed 6 to 0. Item to appear on the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda. 301 NORTH RIVERWALK DRIVE, RIVERWALK PLACE APARTMENTS — REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE,LEASE, SIGNS Ch. Entman read the letter dated March 29, 2011 submitted by Tim Beechick, Hamilton Partners, requesting to Table the status review to the next scheduled meeting. Com. Shapiro made a motion to Table the review of status for the existing "For Rent, Sale, Lease" signs for Riverwalk Place Apartments, 301 North Riverwalk Drive, to the May 17, 2011 meeting. Com. Au seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein, Steingold, Windecker, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY—None ABSTAIN—None Motion Passed 6 to 0. Item to appear on the May 17, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda. 1300-1398 BUSCH PARKWAY, VAN VLISSINGEN — REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE,LEASE SIGN Ms. Vicki Burchard, Van Vlissingen and Company, One Overlook Point, Lincolnshire, Illinois 60069, was present and sworn in. Ms. Burchard explained that they currently have three (3) units available totaling nine thousand six hundred twelve (9,612) square feet out of fifty two thousand(52,000) square feet. The sign is an integral part of their marketing program and leasing activities. There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Com. Stein made a motion to grant a six (6) month extension for Van Vlissingen, 1300- 1398 Busch Parkway, for the "For Rent, Sale, Lease" sign. Petitioner to appear at the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals for a status review of the signs. Com. Shapiro seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein, Steingold, Windecker, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY—None ABSTAIN—None Motion Passed 6 to 0. Item to appear on the October 18, 2011 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda. 1405-1495 BUSCH PARKWAY, VAN VLISSINGEN — REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE,LEASE SIGN ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 4 of 11 Ms.Vicki Burchard,Van Vlissingen and Company,One Overlook Point, Lincolnshire, Illinois 60069,was present and sworn in. Ms. Burchard explained that they currently have one (1) unit available totaling nine thousand nine hundred fourteen(9,914)square feet with another larger combination unit, which will yield a total available of twenty two thousand five hundred eight(22,508) square feet becoming available soon. The sign is an integral part of their marketing program and leasing activities. There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners.There were no questions or comments from the audience. Com.Windecker made a motion to grant a six(6)month extension for Van Vlissingen, 1405-1495 Busch Parkway,for the"For Rent,Sale,Lease"sign.Petitioner to appear at the October 18,2011 Zoning Board of Appeals for a status review of the signs. Com. Shapiro seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote:AYE—Stein,Steingold,Windecker,Shapiro,Au,Entman NAY—None ABSTAIN—None Motion Passed 6 to 0.Item to appear on the October 18,2011 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda. 339 MARY BELLE CIRCLE, FAIRVIEW ESTATES, INC — ZONING ORDINANCE,SECTION 17.36.030,FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING THE FRONT YARD COVERAGE LIMITATION TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED 40%COVERAGE BY 29 SQUARE FEET Mr.Michael DeMar,Fairview Estates,Inc.,1351 B Abbott Court,Buffalo Grove,Illinois 60089,was present and sworn in.The public hearing notice published in the Daily Herald on March 23,2011 was read. Mr.DeMar explained that the property is a pie-shaped lot.They are looking to give the buyer the same driveway width as other homes in the Subdivision. Ch.Entman read the Village Engineer's memorandum addressed to Brian Sheehan dated March 25,2011 which states:"I have no comments on the proposal." Com.Windecker asked if the issue was brought up before the home was sold.Mr.DeMar stated that he was not aware of the issue until after they sold the home.Com.Windecker asked if as the developer they did not want to have the driveway match the others in the Subdivision.Mr.DeMar responded that when they submitted the permit for the driveway, it was determined that the driveway had to be reduced by one and one half(1-1/2)feet in width.He added that the Village suggested that he move forward with the permit for the construction of the home and go through the variation while the home is under construction. The home is now half way completed. Com. Windecker stated that it ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12,2011 PAGE 5 of 11 becomes are major hardship since the home has already been sold to an individual. He stated that it puts the Zoning Board of Appeals(ZBA)in a position that they really cannot object. The layout of the home is awful compared to the proximity of the corner of the garage to the front entrance of the home next door. Ch. Entman agrees with Corn. Windecker concerning the timing of the variance. The ZBA is now being asked to grant a variance to an ordinance to comply because the hardship will be imposed on a third party, whereas the party creating the hardship should have known better. Due to the fact that it is such a small overage he does not have a major objection. He does not like approving things this way. There is ample opportunity for everyone to know what the ordinances are. The ZBA does not like having to grant variances based on the self-created hardships. There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Corn. Shapiro made the following motion: I move we grant the request made by Fairview Estates Inc, 1351 B Abbott Court, Buffalo Grove IL 60089, for variance of Zoning Ordinance, Section 17.36.030, pertaining to Additional regulations-Parking, for the purpose of allowing the front yard coverage limitation to exceed the maximum permitted 40% coverage by 29 square feet for the property located at 339 Mary Belle Circle. Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated March 25, 2011. Subject to plans submitted to and approved by the Village. The Petitioner has demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed front yard coverage will not be detrimental to the public health, safety and welfare and will not alter the essential character of the neighborhood. Corn. Au seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein, Steingold,Windecker, Shapiro, Au, Entman NAY—None ABSTAIN—None Motion Passed 6 to 0. Findings of Fact attached. Permit may be issued in fifteen (15) days—April 28, 2011. 1493 W. DUNDEE ROAD, BIZ SOLUTIONS - DEVIATION TO THE PLAZA VERDE SHOPPING CENTER SIGN CRITERIA, TO ALLOW THE USE OF MULTIPLE COLORS; TO ALLOW THE USE OF THE CORPORATE LOGO; TO ALLOW THE SIGN TO BE INSTALLED ON A RACEWAY; TO ALLOW THE LOGO HEIGHT TO BE 30-1/2"; TO ALLOW TWO (2) LINES OF TEXT; TO ALLOW THE SIGN WIDTH TO BE 120"; AND TO ALLOW THE USE IF LED LIGHTING ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 6 of 11 Mr. Michael Sobel, Mark Your Space, Inc., 1235 Humbracht Circle, Unit 1, Bartlett, Illinois 60103,was present and sworn in. Mr. Sobel explained that the store is a Clear authorized dealer. Clear is a nationwide cellular and internet provider. They are asking for a few deviations to the shopping center sign criteria. First is the use of multiple colors. Clear, being a national brand, uses green in their logo. Just a point of reference, AT&T uses blue, Verizon uses red and Sprint uses yellow. Second they also want to use their logo in the sign, which would be the circle swoosh. It is their nationally known brand. The third, they would like to use a raceway. A raceway makes installation and removal a lot easier and keeps the façade of the building looking cleaner if the sign is removed. Fourth, they would like to increase the maximum logo height. Due to the stores distance from Dundee Road and Arlington Heights Road, visibility is an issue. They want people to see the store from as far away as possible so that everyone knows that the store is there. They also need to request for two (2) lines of text. This Clear store is not owned by Clear Corporate. Therefore it is an authorized retailer and has to be designated as such. They are also asking for an increase in the sign width. At forty eight (48) inches, it would be extremely small. They are also asking to use LED instead of neon. LED is more economical and does not contain mercury in it. Corn. Windecker stated that at the Appearance Review Team (ART) meeting it was suggested to make the "Clear" lettering red to match the rest of the center. Alternative "E" shows the proposed "Clear" and "Authorized Dealer" signs in red and the logo in green. There was no objection to the logo being installed in green. Alternative "E" also shows the logo diameter being eighteen and one half (18-1/2) inches and one hundred twenty three point three (123.3) inch width for the length of the sign. He asked if Mr. Sobel is willing to amend his request to Alternative "E". Mr. Sobel stated that he cannot go with Alternative "E". He created that rendering but Clear had sent him their guidelines and the sign has to be green or white. Com. Windecker asked Mr. Sobel if Alternative "E"was submitted in error. Mr. Sobel stated that he found out after he had submitted the Alternatives that red was not an approved color for the sign from Clear. He did create Alternative"E"based on the recommendation of the ART. At that point, he had not heard back from Clear. Corn. Windecker confirmed that the only approved sign packages are white or green. Mr. Sobel stated that is correct. They can go with any of the Alternative proposals except "E". Corn. Windecker stated he was reluctant to believe that Clear has no other sign package. Mr. Sobel stated that each of the cellular companies have their own color schematic and they stay away from each other. Com. Windecker stated that he realizes that, but Clear has been hoping around back and forth with regards to color. In Chicago, there is all green, no white. Mr. Sobel agrees that the branding for Clear has changed a little bit. Corn. Windecker stated that it changes over and over again. It you look at the company history, it changes based on what the community desires. Mr. Sobel stated that the green has always been there, that has not changed. Corn. Windecker stated that he cannot support the request. Mr. Sobel added that there are numerous other sign in Buffalo Grove that are not red. There is Blockbuster, Dairy Queen, Dollar City, Starbucks, Home Ray& Son, Subway, H &R Block, FedEx Office, O'Reilly Auto Parts, and Jimmy Johns, all of which have been allowed to keep their corporate colors. Com. Windecker stated that Clear can keep their corporate color on the logo but not on the ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 7 of 11 letters. Mr. Sobel stated that all those signs have their corporate colors in the entire sign and not just the logo. Corn. Windecker stated that each individual shopping center has its own sign criteria that is agreed to by the shopping center owner and the Village, in Plaza Verde, the sign criteria has the sign color of red for their signs. Other shopping centers may have other colors; that is based upon their sign criteria. If there are different colors in this center, it is because they went through the process to get the approval for those colors. Ch. Entman read the ART minutes dated March 28, 2011 into the record. Ch. Entman stated that he does not have any issues with the sign being installed on a raceway. He does not like signs to be too big, or too high, or too wide. Clear is saying that white or green are the only colors. He understands the review of other signs that were allowed to keep their corporate colors. He knows that in Plaza Verde, there are certain retailers that went to red to comply with the sign criteria. There are always going to be some that insist that they want their corporate color and/or style and logo. When the ZBA says no, then they adapt. Just because they say they want to go white or green does not mean that the ZBA has to go along with it. Corn. Au stated that she does not have any issue with the white or green. The roof of the building is green. The raceway is off-white. She understands that all of the signs are red, but with Clear being a national brand and by forcing them to change their lettering colors, the Village is not allowing them to trademark their brand. Ch. Entman also noted that they are basing their comments on the tenant's inability to change the color of the lettering to red. Corn. Windecker's line of questioning is based upon what the ZBA has heard for a number of years, that national brands have only one (1) or two (2) sign packages. The ZBA has found over the years that no matter what they are told, shown or lead to believe that all national brands have more colors. Walgreens has more color combinations and sign packages and McDonalds has them. The testimony presented here may be fine, but the ZBA believes that there are more color packages available. He may not have a problem if the sign is white or green. He is not sure about the width of the proposed sign. There is comment that they are requesting to increase the sign width because the forty eight (48) inch sign width would not be visible. Not every store that faces Dundee Road, and is setback the same distance, has an expanded sign width in order to be seen. Mr. Sobel added that most store fronts in this center are narrower. This storefront is about double the width. Corn. Shapiro agrees with Mr. Sobel that the size of the size compared to the store front does not look out of place. With the green roof line, the green letter does not really stand out and it is the brand color. If he had to select an Alternative, he would select Alternative "D" as being the most appropriate because there are not too many colors and keep all the letter matching. Com. Windecker confirmed that Mr. Sobel received the ART minutes dated March 28, 2011 that requested that the petitioner provide the approved sign packages for Clear, or ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 8 of 11 some documented proof regarding their inability to use any other color. Mr. Sobel confirmed that he did receive the ART minutes. He added that Clear was very adamant that their approved sign packages could not become part of the public record. Ch. Entman asked the ZBA if there was preference concerning the Alternative sign packages submitted. Corn. Windecker stated that the ZBA has to look at both the length and the diameter. Ch. Entman stated that the two (2) packages he is looking at are identical except for the lettering"Authorized Retailer"is white (Alternative C) on one(1) and green (Alternative D) on the other. Mr. Sobel stated that difference between the proposed sign and Alternative"B"is the diameter of the logo. The rest of the Alternatives use those dimensions and just change the color of the lettering. There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or comments from the audience. Com. Shapiro made a motion to approve the request made by Biz Solutions, 1493 W. Dundee Road, for Deviation to the Shopping Center Sign Criteria,pursuant to Alternative "D" dated February 8, 2011, which depicts green "Clear" lettering, green "Authorized Dealer" lettering and an eighteen and one half (18-1/2) inch logo with the sign being mounted on a raceway and to allow the use of LED lighting. Corn. Au seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: AYE—Shapiro,Au NAY—Steingold, Windecker, Entman ABSTAIN—Stein Motion Denied 2 to 2, 1 Abstention. The Petitioner was advised of their right to appeal this decision to the Village Board. Mr. Sobel explained that his client will not receive reimbursement from Clear corporate if the sign is in red lettering because it does not meet the guidelines. The tenant gets marketing money back from Clear corporate to put the sign up. If it does not meet the marketing guidelines, then the tenant does not get reimbursed. In which case, they will not put up the sign. Ch. Entman stated that what was proposed was not approved. If there is some other alternative they wish to present the ZBA is willing to listen. Mr. Sobel asked if there was something that the Commissioners who did not vote in favor of the sign wanted to see. Ch. Entman stated that he could poll the Board. He would not be surprised if it had something to do with maintaining the color of the current sign criteria for Plaza Verde. Mr. Sobel stated that the whole basis for reimbursement is that you are paying to spread the brand name. The O'Reilly sign in the same shopping center is green and white while every other sign next to it red. The FedEx sign at Dundee and Buffalo Grove Road is blue and white. The H&R Block sign is green and white. All the big corporation sign are their colors because they do brand management. That is what he tries to teach his customers, that you need to own your brand. You need to be consistent. You want people to visually pick up on your brand and remember it. So when they want to buy something they ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 9 of 11 remember your brand. It is about brand management. Changing the colors to red does not stick with their brand. Corn. Shapiro replied that they would keep their logo in their color. There is flexibility by some corporations. Mr. Sobel stated that unfortunately in the telecommunications business they have made a very clear stand on the colors. AT&T has chosen the blue spectrum, Sprint the yellow spectrum and Verizon the red spectrum. They do not want to confuse customers. They do not want brand confusion. Corn. Windecker asked if Mr. Sobel is the business owner. Mr. Sobel stated that he is the sign contractor. Com. Windecker stated that there has to be some alternatives. Mr. Sobel stated that he spoke with Clear and they will not reimburse the business owner because the sign would not be in their colors. He does not blame them. He would not want to reimburse them either. If is not his brand he would not pay to not put his brand up. Corn. Windecker stated that the ZBA is not changing the color of the logo. Mr. Sobel replied that the ZBA is changing the color of the logo. The logo includes the word "Clear". The logo is "Clear" and the circle. Just like FedEx is the special X with the capital F and capital E. Corn. Steingold asked if there is a Jimmy Johns in the shopping center. Mr. Sobel stated that there is a Jimmy Johns in the center. Corn. Steingold asked if the Jimmy Johns logo is red and if the sign letters are red. Mr. Sobel stated that the sign lettering is in white. Com. Steingold asked what Jimmy Johns corporate colors are. Mr. Sobel stated that they are white and black. Corn. Windecker stated that the Jimmy Johns sign at Town Center is red. The sign package for Town Center and Plaza Verde is red. The Jimmy Johns in Town Center is red. Mr. Sobel stated that he is not familiar with Town Center. Mr. Sobel stated that the owner of the Plaza Verde shopping center is the father-in-law of the business owner and the center owner does not mind if the sign is green or white. There are sign all over Buffalo Grove that are not red. The rules are so antiquated that they say you have to have a neon sign. They have not been changed. The problem is it would take four (4) times as long to get the rules changed to what he would like them to be. Com. Windecker stated that the ZBA did not object to the raceway. Mr. Sobel acknowledged that and added that the rules are antiquated from a time before branding became king. He was just trying to point out how old the rules are in that neon signs aren't made anymore except for specialty reasons. Corn. Windecker stated that maybe why people like to live in Buffalo Grove because the Village does follow rules and regulations. Mr. Sobel stated that he grew here. He went to Buffalo Grove High School. Corn. Windecker responded that Mr. Sobel should know that the Village is not that antiquated. Mr. Sobel clarified that he is referring to the shopping centers rules, not the Village's rules. The shopping center's rules that are on file with the Village are antiquated, not the Village ordinances. The Village ordinances are very up to date. The requirements that the shopping center put in when the built the center are antiquated and have not been revised. Ch. Entman stated that the comments are well taken. The ZBA did not approve what was requested. If there is something that the business owner would like to request in any other ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 10 of 11 form or again, they are welcome to return. It must be taken into account the Village ART made several recommendations that were not taken into account. There are minutes from that meeting and then there is the sign criteria for this shopping center. If there is something else that the petitioner would like to do, that can be presented. If that fact that the sign criteria for this center is so outdated that it is cumbersome and interfering with the business then he is not disagreeing. But, he believes then that the landlord or the owner of the property needs to do something about it. If the landlord would have addressed the issue when the first several deviation requests came up however many years ago, then each individual businesses owner would not have to come before the ZBA to request deviations for every proposed sign. Mr. Sobel stated that the guidance he received was not to fix the sign criteria, but was to come before the ZBA for the deviation. There were no additional questions or comments. ANNOUCEMENTS None. ADJOURNMENT Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Corn. Windecker and seconded by Corn. Au. Voice Vote—AYE was unanimous. Ch. Entman adjourned the meeting at 8:22 P.M. Submitted by, AceiaeLs_ Jul' Kamka Recording Secretary ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 12, 2011 PAGE 11 of 11