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BUFFALO GROVE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
AUGUST 21, 2007
Chairman Entman called the Zoning Board of Appeals regular meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. on
Tuesday, August 21, 2007 in the Council Chambers of the Village Hall, 50 Raupp Boulevard.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Commissioner Stein
Commissioner Dunn
Commissioner Windecker
Commissioner Shapiro
Chairman Entman
Commissioners Absent: Vice Chairman Sandler
Commissioner Lesser
Also Present: Edward Schar, Building Commissioner
William Raysa, Village Attorney
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 19, 2007 minutes:
Minutes of the June 19, 2007 Zoning Board of Appeals regular meeting were Tabled to the next
regular meeting scheduled for September 18, 2007.
OLD BUSINESS
1701 WEILAND ROAD, ROYAL TOUCH CAR WASH — SIGN CODE, SECTIONS
14.20.030 AND 14.20.070, TO ENLARGE THE EXISTING NORTH GROUND SIGN TO
INCLUDE "EXTERIOR CAR WASH" AND PRICE SIGN; AND TO REFACE THE
EXISTING SOUTH GROUND SIGN TO INCLUDE "EXTERIOR ONLY" AND PRICE
SIGN
Mr. John Imreibe, Royal Touch Car Wash, 1701 Weiland Road, was present and reminded that
he was still under oath.
Mr. Imreibe explained that at the June 19, 2007 meeting, he had requested to add language to
their existing ground signs that would show the exterior car wash pricing. They are asking for the
language in order to compete for business.
Ch. Entman asked if there were any changes to the original proposal. Mr. Imreibe advised that he
submitted revised color drawings that have been marked as Exhibit "F". The background will
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match the existing sign and the red price copy has been changed to match the existing copy. He
is no longer requesting to increase the size of the north ground sign.
Corn. Windecker asked what the price will be for the exterior wash. Mr. Imreibe stated that the
price they will offer will be $3.95. Corn. Windecker stated that the day after the June 19, 2007
meeting, he received an advertisement in the mail showing the price at $4.95. Mr. Imreibe
responded that most of his locations in the Chicago area have been at $4.95 for an exterior wash.
They have gone as low as $3.00. Their busy season is coming up and they will be running a
promotion for $3.95. They would like to run that price for at least a year. They do not anticipate
raising the price often. This is not the type of sign they want to change all the time. This will not
be a changeable copy sign. Com. Windecker asked if the sign face will be all one piece or will
the price information be a separate panel. Mr. Imreibe stated that he believes that the price
information will be a separate panel because it is expensive to make a whole new sign. His sign
contractor is not sure yet.
Corn. Stein asked about Dunkin Donuts. Mr. Imreibe advised that Dunkin Donuts sold last week
and they are trying to work through the franchise agreement and trying to get a combination
Baskin Robbins and Dunkin Donuts store. They no longer want to use the facility as a baking
facility. The owners have been advised that they would be limited to the panel space that Dunkin
Donuts sign panel currently occupies. They could split that current panel space for an additional
tenant.
Corn. Dunn stated that the even though the car wash is located in a zoning district that is
appropriate for that kind of business, she still believes that the sign displaying the price of the car
wash does not fit in with the character of the neighborhood. Across from the car wash is a day
care facility and there are homes very close to the business. This is a transitional mixed use area.
The photographs of competitor's signs are all located on heavily traveled secondary streets, such
as Dundee Road and Lake Cook Road. Mr. Imreibe replied that this is an extremely important
issue and at some of his locations, approximately fifty percent (50%) of the total volume of
business are exterior washes. At this location, only about ten percent (10%) of the total volume
of business are exterior car washes. The most recent car counts on Aptakisic Road were around
25,000 cars per day.
Ch. Entman asked if the Dunkin Donuts is planning to stay open. Mr. Imreibe responded that
Dunkin Donuts will stay open to the best of his knowledge.
Ch. Entman does not have any issues with the sign but would like a provision concerning the
Dunkin Donuts portion of the sign.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no
questions or comments from the audience.
Mr. Imreibe amended his petition to remove the request to increase the size of the north ground
sign.
Corn. Dunn made the following motion:
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I move we recommend to the Village Board to grant the amended request made by Royal Touch
Car Wash, 1701 Weiland Road, for variance of Sign Code, Section 14.20.030, pertaining to
Business Districts; and Section 14.20.070, pertaining to Ground Signs, for the purpose of
refacing the two (2) existing ground signs pursuant to Exhibit"F".
Pursuant to Sign Code, Section 14.44.010, Sub-section B.
Com. Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein, Windecker, Shapiro, Entman
NAY—Dunn
ABSTAIN—None
Motion Passed 4 to 1. Findings of Fact attached. Item to appear on the September 10, 2007
Village Board agenda.
ROGERS CENTRE FOR COMMERCE, ARTHUR J. ROGERS & COMPANY —
REVIEW OF THE EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE, LEASE SIGN LOCATED AT THE
SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BARCLAY BOULEVARD AND APTAKISIC ROAD
Ms. Kathy Rogers, Arthur J. Rogers & Company, 1601 Barclay Boulevard, Buffalo Grove,
Illinois 60089 and Mr. Norman Ross, Arthur J. Rogers & Company, 1601 Barclay Boulevard,
Buffalo Grove, Illinois 60089,were present and sworn in.
The sign is currently in place. Information was received concerning the current and potential
vacancy rates. The prior review was completed six (6)months ago.
Ms. Rogers advised that this sign creates walk-in traffic. Most of the small tenant users come
from driving around the area and see the sign. Mr. Ross added that the sign has worked well and
maybe better than they thought. The temporary signs seem to draw more attention that the
permanent backlit signs. They have increased their inquiries about 25% since the sign went up
originally.
Com. Dunn stated that she had read in the newspaper that Rogers Centre for Commerce has
recently rented out a large amount of space. Are those figures included in the percentages
submitted to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Ross responded that those numbers are included.
They gained approximately 31,000 square feet of tenant space but lost approximately 15,000
square feet so their net gain was about 15,000 square feet. Their units are small and there is a
constant turn around of tenants.
Corn. Windecker asked about the overall percentage of vacancy. Mr. Ross advised that they are a
little over 70%occupied.
Ch. Entman advised that Arthur J. Rogers &Company has requested a longer time period for the
sign to remain. He would prefer to keep the review time limited to six (6)months.
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There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no
questions or comments from the audience.
Corn. Windecker made a motion to allow the existing For Rent, Sale, Lease Sign for Arthur J.
Rogers & Company to remain at the southwest corner of Barclay Boulevard and Aptakisic Road
for six months. This sign will be reviewed at the February 2008 Zoning Board of Appeals
meeting for status.
Corn. Dunn seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein, Dunn,Windecker, Shapiro, Entman
NAY—None
ABSTAIN—None
Motion Passed 5 to 0. Item to appear on the February 2008 Zoning Board of Appeals agenda.
NEW BUSINESS
1024 SHAMBLISS LANE, KIRBY AND MARLA HINDIN — FENCE CODE, SECTION
15.20.040,TO CONSTRUCT A 6' FENCE ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE
Mr. Kirby Hindin and Mrs. Marla Hindin, 1024 Shambliss Lane, were present and sworn in. The
public hearing notice published in the Daily Herald on July 26, 2007 was read.
Mrs. Hindin explained that the back of their home backs up to the bike path that leads to The
Crossing's pond. They currently have a five foot (5') high wooden fence that is in need of
replacement. It does not offer them the degree of privacy that they would like. There is also a
berm on the other side of the bike path where people can see into the yard. People walking along
the bike path can look over the top of the fence into their yard. The bike path is higher than the
swale where the fence is located. The current five foot (5') fence does not give them five feet
(5') of privacy. The fence along the sides would be a five feet (5') chain link fence. The fence
would not interfere with any of their neighbor's.
Ch. Entman read the Village Engineer's memorandum addressed to Edward Schar dated July 30,
2007 which states: "I have no comments on the proposal."
Ch. Entman confirmed that the Petitioner is requesting a board on board fence. He asked if they
have spoken with their neighbors. Mrs. Hindin advised that one house to the side is vacant and
for sale and she does not know the neighbors on the other side very well, but they were notified
of the public hearing. Mr. Hindin added that the prior neighbors, the house that is currently
vacant,had lived there for 20 years and they would not have objected.
There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no questions or
comments from the audience.
Corn. Stein made the following motion:
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I move we grant the request made by Kirby and Marla Hindin, 1024 Shambliss Lane, for
variance of Fence Code, Section 15.20.040,pertaining to Residential Districts, for the purpose of
constructing a six foot(6')board on board wood fence along the rear property line.
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated July 30, 2007. Petitioner has demonstrated
hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed fence will not be detrimental to the public
health, safety and welfare and will not alter the essential character of the neighborhood.
Corn. Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE—Stein,Dunn, Windecker, Shapiro, Entman
NAY—None
ABSTAIN—None
Motion Passed 5 to 0. Findings of fact attached. The permit may be issued in fifteen (15) days —
September 6, 2007.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Corn. Windecker and seconded by Corn. Dunn.
Voice Vote—AYE was unanimous.
Ch. Entman adjourned the meeting at 8:35 P.M.
Submitted by,
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Recording Secretary
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