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REGULAR MEETING As Stbed
BUFFALO GROVE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 5/1 /00'1
APRIL 17, 2007
Acting Chairman Sandler called the Zoning Board of Appeals regular meeting to order at 7:30
P.M. on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 in the Council Chambers of the Village Hall, 50 Raupp
Boulevard.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Commissioner Stein
Commissioner Dunn
Commissioner Windecker
Vice Chairman Sandler
Commissioner Lesser
Commissioner Shapiro
Commissioners Absent: Chairman Entman
Also Present: Edward Schar, Building Commissioner
William Raysa, Village Attorney
DeAnn Glover, Village Trustee
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
March 20, 2007 minutes:
Corn. Lesser made a motion to approve the minutes as submitted of the Zoning Board of Appeals
regular meeting held on Tuesday, March 20, 2007. Corn. Dunn seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE — Stein, Dunn, Windecker, Sandler, Lesser, Shapiro
NAY — None
ABSTAIN - None
OLD BUSINESS
2760 ACACIA COURT SOUTH, BARON HARMON — FENCE CODE, SECTION
15.20.040, TO CONSTRUCT AN 8' BRICK OR STONE FENCE ALONG THE REAR
PROPERTY LINE
Mr. Baron Harmon, 2760 Acacia Court South, and Mr. Lawrence Freedman, Attorney, 77 W.
Washington Street, Suite 1211 , Chicago, Illinois 60602, were present and advised they were still
under oath.
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Mr. Freedman submitted to the Commissioners a reference sheet from The Fence Store, marked
as Exhibit "M", indicating the fence shown as E. Board on Batten as the fence that is now being
proposed. This is a wood fence.
Acting Ch. Sandler stated that he does not have an issue with an eight foot (8') fence along
Route 22.
Com. Dunn confirmed that the fence will only be along the rear property line.
Mr. Freedman advised that the Petitioner amended his request at the March 20, 2007 meeting to
remove the request for the fence along the west property line. Petitioner is also amending his
request to construct a wood fence and not a brick or stone fence.
There was some discussion concerning the berm that is located at the rear of the property. The
fence will be located at the current grade of the rear yard.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no
questions or comments from the audience.
Com. Stein made the following motion:
I move we grant the amended request made by Baron Harmon, 2760 Acacia Court South, for
variance of Fence Code, Section 15.20.040, pertaining to Residential Districts, for the purpose of
constructing an eight foot (8')wood board on batten fence along the rear property line.
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated March 5, 2007. Petitioner has
demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed fence will not be detrimental to
the public health, safety or welfare and will not alter the essential character of the neighborhood.
Corn. Lesser seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE— Stein, Dunn, Windecker, Lesser, Shapiro, Sandler
NAY—None
ABSTAIN—None
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Findings of Fact attached. Permit may be issued in fifteen(15) days—May
3, 2007.
2770 ACACIA COURT SOUTH, BARON HARMON — ZONING ORDINANCE,
SECTION 17.32.030, TO ALLOW THE EXISTING ACCESSORY GARAGE/STORAGE
STRUCTURE TO REMAIN THAT EXCEEDS THE PERMITTED HEIGHT OF 15' BY
APPROXIMATELY 8'4"
A letter submitted to Mr. Edward Schar by Mr. Baron Harmon and dated April 12, 2007 states in
part: "This letter will confirm that I am withdrawing my request for variance regarding the height
of the structure placed on 2770 Acacia Court South in Buffalo Grove, Illinois, and I am hereby
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submitting a draft Application for Permit to alter the existing structure to comply with the 15 foot
height limitation."
NEW BUSINESS
318 WINDSOR DRIVE, ROBERT AND GLORIA LORENZ— FENCE CODE, SECTION
15.20.040, TO ALLOW THE 6' WOOD PRIVACY FENCE INSTALLED ALONG THE
REAR PROPERTY LINE TO REMAIN
Mr. Robert Lorenz, 318 Windsor Drive, was present and sworn in. The public hearing notice
published in the Daily Herald on March 22, 2007 was read.
Mr. Lorenz explained that the property located behind his is approximately four to five feet (4'-
5') higher than his. This was done for drainage purposes. They started to put the fence up, then
stopped and roped off where the fence height would be and found that the fence would only be
four and a half feet (4-1/2') high. The fence is not at the top of the hill or at the bottom. It is
located about two-thirds up the hill.
Act. Ch. Sandler read the Village Engineer's memorandum addressed to Edward Schar dated
April 2, 2007 which states: "I have no comments on the subject proposal."
Act. Ch. Sandler asked the Petitioner when they became aware of the issue. Mr. Lorenz stated
that they bought a six foot (6') fence, because you cannot buy a five foot (5') fence, and they
were going to cut it down to five feet (5'). They were aware of the five foot (5') height
restriction. The property is slanted. If you look at the property and the fence, it would not look
right at five feet (5'). Act. Ch. Sandler stated that he did look at the property and noticed the
difference in the grade. Normally he would not support a request for a six foot (6') fence, but in
this case,there is a difference.
Com. Windecker advised that when he went out to the property, the public hearing sign was
down and lying on the side of house and asked Mr. Raysa if that could delay the public hearing.
Mr. Raysa advised that the public hearing could continue.
Com. Windecker stated that the property to the south has a five foot (5') fence and the property
to the north has a four foot (4') cyclone fence. Mr. Lorenz replied that the neighbor has a greater
incline. They are requesting the fence because kids cut through their yard on their way to and
from school. There used to be shrubs there, but those were taken down. Com. Windecker
commented that with a six foot (6') fence, the kids would have to scale eight feet (8') and he
asked if the Petitioner considered the safety of the children. He also noted that the school is
located several blocks from the Petitioner's residence.
Com. Stein asked what height fence was requested on the permit. Mr. Lorenz stated they
received a permit for a five foot (5') fence. When they went to purchase the fencing, they found
that they could only purchase a four foot (4') or six foot (6') fence. Corn. Stein asked if they
contacted the Village before installing the fence. Mr. Lorenz advised that they spoke with the
Village previously and that they would cut the fence down if they had to. Com. Stein stated that
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the Board has seen too many of these types of requests recently and asked about the hardship.
Mr. Lorenz advised that the only way to get a five foot (5') fence would be to purchase a custom
fence.
Mr. Steve Edwards, 330 Windsor Drive, was present and sworn in. Mr. Edwards lives to the
south of the Petitioner. He submitted photographs the Zoning Board of Appeals that were
acceptable and marked as Exhibit "M". The photographs depict the view of the fence from his
yard. The fence matches with the existing fences and looks very nice. He was present the day the
fence was being installed. To cut the fence would make it look bad. He has resided at his
residence since 1968. At that time, they were the only two (2) houses. Everyone knows everyone
in the neighborhood.
Com. Shapiro asked why the Petitioner believes that the school children would try to break into
their house. Mr. Lorenz replied that they have previously found footprints on the rear deck and
have found that the blinds on the door had been shifted, indicating that someone was trying to get
in through the door. They have also found the water hose in the rear had been turned on and left
running. Other homes in the neighborhood have been broken into.
Com. Dunn asked what the Petitioner's hardship is. Mr. Lorenz replied that it is the incline in the
rear yard and that the residents to the rear can see into their home.
Mrs. Jane Edwards, 330 Windsor Drive, was present and sworn in. Mrs. Edwards explained that
the property to rear of the Petitioner's used to have evergreens that were three feet (3') above the
fence. The evergreens were removed and now they can see into the Petitioner's yard and house.
Ms. Carol Felton, 305 Windsor Drive, was present and sworn in. Ms. Felton explained that they
are trying to keep the neighborhood green and feels that they are being alienated for trying to
better their properties. They also feel that the Village is working against them.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no
additional questions or comments from the audience.
Com. Lesser made the following motion:
I move we grant the request made by Robert and Gloria Lorenz, 318 Windsor Drive, for variance
of Fence Code, Section 15.20.040,pertaining to Residential Districts, for the purpose of allowing
the six foot(6')wood privacy fence installed along the rear property line to remain.
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated April 2, 2007. The Petitioner has
demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed fence will not be detrimental to
the public health, safety and welfare and will not alter the essential character of the
neighborhood.
Com. Shapiro seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE—Lesser, Shapiro, Sandler
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NAY— Stein, Dunn, Windecker
ABSTAIN—None
Motion Denied 3 to 3. Findings of Fact attached. Petitioner was advised of their right to appeal
this decision to the Village Board.
936 GREENRIDGE ROAD, DANNY BARBARIGOS — FENCE CODE, SECTION
15.20.040, TO ALLOW THE 6' WOOD FENCE TO REMAIN AS CONSTRUCTED
THAT ENCLOSES THE REAR YARD
Mr. Danny Barbarigos, 936 Greenridge Road, was present and sworn in. The public hearing
notice published in the Daily Herald on March 22, 2007 was read.
Mr. Barbarigos explained that he wanted to purchase a dog and was referred to the Health
Department. He was sent information from the Health Department via email concerning the
Village's Dog Ordinance. He then proceeded to get two (2) quotes from contractor's to get the
fence installed. He thought that the contractor was responsible for obtaining any permits. He
wanted the fence due to a slope in the yard and he also wanted to keep the children in the
neighborhood safe.
Acting Ch. Sandler asked Mr. Barbarigos if he applied for a permit for a fence on October 10,
2006. At first, Mr. Barbarigos stated that he did not apply for a permit. Acting Ch. Sandler stated
that he had a copy of a permit application signed by Mr. Barbarigos dated October 10, 2006
along with a letter from the Village dated October 10, 2006 stating that a six foot (6') fence is in
violation of the Zoning Ordinance and that the maximum allowable height is five feet (5'). Mr.
Barbarigos replied that he never received the letter and that he was approached by someone at his
house after the fence was installed. Acting Ch. Sandler confirmed that the Village took legal
action against Mr. Barbarigos for the violation and asked if he appeared at the last court date. Mr.
Barbarigos stated that he was present at the last court date; he arrived ten (10) minutes late and
was told he had to go through the motions of applying for a variation and would return to court.
Acting Ch. Sandler asked if he was present at this month's court date. Mr. Barbarigos replied
that he did not. Acting Ch. Sandler stated that he is aware that Mr. Barbarigos was fined for not
appearing at this month's court date and asked if he was aware of that. Mr. Barbarigos stated that
he was not aware of this.
Acting Ch. Sandler stated that in regards to the six foot (6') fence, he went out and looked at the
fence. He does not see a reason in this case to allow more than five feet (5') in height. If the
variation was applied for prior to installing the fence, he would not have supported the requested.
There is no great variance between the elevation of the Petitioner's yard and the yards located
around it. He is concerned about high fences creating a fortress or barricade look in the Village.
He understands about the type of dogs the Petitioner has but it is the responsibility as a dog
owner to take care of the dogs and control them.
Mr. Barbarigos asked where it is stated in the Ordinance that was sent to him that the maximum
height is five feet (5'). Acting Ch. Sandler replied that the information sent to Mr. Barbarigos
states a minimum of five feet (5'), but does not state the process to request a higher fence. It is
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still a situation where the Village Ordinance requires a variation for a fence more than five feet
(5') in height.
Com. Dunn advised that a permit is required for fence no matter what size. The permit was only
applied for after the fence was installed. The initiative was taken to get information from the
Village concerning the dog and the same could have been done concerning the fence. Mr.
Barbarigos replied that he hired two (2) companies and the permit fee is not a big deal for him.
He is spending$5,000.00 for a fence to beautify his neighbor's yards as well. No one from either
company told him that he needed to go to the Village of get the information concerning the
regulations. Com. Dunn asked why it took six (6) months to make the application for a variation.
Mr. Barbarigos replied that he was working five (5) months straight from 11:00A.M. to
11:00P.M.
Corn. Stein asked if Mr. Barbarigos is a business owner. He replied that he is. Corn. Stein if he
needed to obtain permits for things like electric and gas at the restaurant. He replied that he does.
Com. Stein asked if a copy of the contract is available showing that the contractor would be
responsible for obtaining the permit. Mr. Barbarigos does not know if it is shown on the receipt.
If he does not have a rule book, he would hire a professional. He is not a construction person, he
is a restaurant owner. At the restaurant it is easy, there is a checklist. So when he first
approached the Village, he saw the minimum height and got two (2) quotes and went from there.
Com. Stein advised that there are not two (2) sets of Fence Codes, one for dog owners and one
for non-dog owners. He does not believe that even a six foot (6') fence would keep the dog in.
He does not support the request.
Corn. Windecker agrees with the other Commissioners concerning the fact that the Petitioner did
not contact the Village to get the information concerning the Fence Code. The fence encloses
that electrical boxes in the rear and the utility companies have the right to come in and take the
fence down. Mr. Barbarigos stated that he has two (2) unlocked gates to allow the utilities access
to the boxes. Corn. Windecker added that with a classified dog, the fence should remain locked.
He does not support the request and believes that the Petitioner has created a bigger hardship by
fencing in the utility boxes so that the dog can stand on them and get over the fence quicker.
Ms. Karen Should, 730 Old Post Road, Buffalo Grove, Illinois 60089, was present and sworn in.
Ms. Should wanted to comment about her request for a fence variance that occurred
approximately one (1) year ago. She lives on a corner lot. They drove around the neighborhood
and saw a lot of fences on corner lots that came out to the sidewalk. They assumed that they
could do that. They may not have bought the house if they knew they would not be able to. They
asked for a fence variation out to the sidewalk and were told no. Another part was to have the
rear fence at six feet (6') and were also told no. They were not happy about it. Everyone told
them that they were stupid and they should have just gone ahead and put the fence up and not
asked for a permit and then come back and say that they did not know and then the Village
would probably let you keep it. She has nothing against this Petitioner. She is glad to see that she
was not made a fool of.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no
additional questions or comments from the audience.
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Corn. Dunn made the following motion:
I move we grant the request made by Danny Barbarigos, 936 Greenridge Road, for variance of
Fence Code, Section 15.20.040, pertaining to Residential Districts, for the purpose of allowing
the existing six foot (6')wood fence to remain as constructed that encloses the rear yard.
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated April 2, 2007. The Petitioner has
demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed fence will not be detrimental to
the public health, safety and welfare and will not alter the essential character of the
neighborhood.
Com. Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE—None
NAY—Stein, Dunn, Windecker, Lesser, Shapiro, Sandler
ABSTAIN—None
Motion Denied 6 to 0. Findings of Fact attached. Petitioner was advised of their right to appeal
this decision to the Village Board.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Com. Stein stated that the Hamilton Partners leasing sign located at Lake Cook Road and
Milwaukee Avenue has been refaced as indicated by Mr. Jim Lang, Hamilton Partners, at the
October 17, 2006 Zoning Board of Appeals meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Corn. Stein and seconded by Corn. Windecker.
Voice Vote—AYE was unanimous.
Acting Ch. Sandler adjourned the meeting at 8:45 P.M.
Submitted by,
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R-'ording Secretary
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