2012-06-19 - Zoning Board of Appeals - Minutes EADO
REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
JUNE 19, 2012
Acting Chairman Windecker called
the Zoning Board of Appeals regular meeting to order
5
9 2012 in the Council Chambers of the Village Hall,
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at 7:30 P.M. on Tuesday, June 1 ,
Raupp Boulevard.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Commissioner Cesario
Commissioner Steingold
Commissioner Windecker
Commissioner Lesser
Commissioner Shapiro
Commissioner Au
Commissioners Absent: Chairman Entman
William Raysa, Village Attorney
Also Present: a Trustee
Steve Trilling, Village
Lester Ottenheimer, Village Trustee
Brian Sheehan, Deputy Building Commissioner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 15, 2012 minutes:
Board of Appeals
Corn.
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made a motion to approve the minutes of the Zoning Board
the motion.
Lesser May 15, 2012. Corn. Cesario seconded regular meeting held on Tuesday,
Roll Call Vote:
AYE — Cesario, Steingold, Lesser, Au, Windecker
NAY — None
ABSTAIN — Shapiro as submitted.
Motion Passed 5 to 0, 1 Abstention. Minutes approved
OLD BUSINESS
1160 WINDBROOKE DRIVE, THE
APARTMENTS AT WINDBROOKE CROSSING - SIGN
CODE, SECTION 14.20.010 AND SE
CTION 14.20.070, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING
TW0 (2) GROUND SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY; FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING THE
EXCEED FIVE (5) FEET IN HEIGHT; FOR THE PURPOSE OF
TWO (2) GROUND SIGNS TO ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
JUNE 19, 2012
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ALLOWING THE TWO (2) GROUND SIGNS EACH EXCEEDING THIRTY TWO (32) SQUARRE
EET IN AREA; FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING THE TWO (2) GROUND SIGNS
F AND TO ALLOW THE GR
OUND
LOCATED IN THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACK A CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE
SIGN ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER TO BE LOCATED
THAN PERMITTED
Mr.
Michael Perrotta, Marquette Management, 401 S. Main Street, Suite 300,
Naperville, Illinois 60540, was present and sworn in.
Mr
. Perrotta stated that he was pulled from the project but has recently been rre-
assi ned to the project. He brought drawings with him to provide to the Zoning Boar
d
of
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Appeals (ZBA).
Acting
Ch. Windecker advised Mr. Perrotta that the ZBA needs sufficient time to review
the drawings.s. He suggested Tabling this request to the next meeting, July 17, 2012, in
ord
er for the drawings to be provided to Building Department for distribution to the
ZBA.
Th
ere were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no questions or comments from the audience.
Cesario made a motion to Table the request made by The Apartments oat
Corn. Section
Windbrooke Crossing, 1160 Windbrooke Drive, for variance of Sign Code, Se to
14.20.010, pertaining to Residential Districts; and Section 14.20.070, pertaining
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Ground Signs, for the purpose of allowing two (2) ground signs on the property; for the
of allowingthe two (2) ground signs to exceed five (5) feet in height; for the
purpose square feet
of allowing the two (2) ground signs each exceeding thirty two (32) sq in the
purpose round si signs to be located
in area; for the purpose of allowing the two (2) g sign on the northwest corner to
required building setback area; and to allow the ground s g 17, 2012 Zoning Board
be located closer to the property line than permitted, to the July
of Appeals meeting. Corn. Lesser seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote:
AYE—Cesario, Steingold, Lesser, Shapiro, Au, Windecker
NAY—None
ABSTAIN —None
Motion
Passed 6 to 0. Item Tabled to the July 17, 2012 Zoning Board of Appeals regular
meeting.
2000
WRIGHT BOULEVARD, SCOTT GOLDTSEIN—FENCE CODE, SECTION 15.20.040, FOR
THE
PURPOSE OF FOUR (4) FOOT OPEN STYLE FENCE BEGINNING ON THE SOUTH
ELEVATION AT THE REAR OF THE GARAGE EXTENDING SOUTH A DISTANCE OF
APPROXIMATELY THIRTY (30) FEET BEYOND THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE ALONG
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OLIVE HILL DRIVE STOPPING ABOUT TWELVE (12) INCHES NORTH OF THE SIDEWALK;
THEN TURNING WEST TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE MAINTAINING A TWELVE (12)
INCH SEPARATION FROM THE SIDEWALK; THEN TURNING NORTH A DISTANCE OF
APPROXIMATELY EIGHTEEN (18) FEET
Mr. Scott Goldstein and Mrs. Jamie Goldstein, 2000 Wright Boulevard, were present and
sworn in.
Acting Ch. Windecker advised that the Petitioner had requested to Table at the last
meeting in order to speak with the Village Engineer concerning his review. The Village
Engineer has provided a subsequent review after speaking with the Petitioner. Acting
Ch. Windecker asked if Mr. Goldstein has seen this subsequent review. Mr. Goldstein
stated that he has not seen it writing but that he has spoken to Mr. Sheehan who
informed him that the recommendation has been changed from a minimum of two (2)
feet from the sidewalk to a minimum of eighteen (18) inches from the sidewalk. He
believes that is a reasonable recommendation and agrees to amend his petition to
locate the fence eighteen (18) inches from the sidewalk.
Acting Ch. Windecker read the Village Engineer's memorandum addressed to Brian
Sheehan dated June 1, 2012 which states: "We have reviewed the fence proposal at the
above location. It does not appear that any of the existing landscaping is in direct
conflict with the prior two (2') foot setback recommendation, however, a setback of 18
(18") inches from the sidewalk would be acceptable. It is noted that trimming of the
existing landscaping is required as it obstructs the public walk."
Mr. Goldstein advised that he has already spoken to a contractor that indicated that, as
part of the project of constructing the fence, would additionally trim all the bushes and
landscaping appropriately.
Acting Ch. Windecker asked Mr. Goldstein about the additional photographs submitted
to Mr. Sheehan prior to the ZBA meeting. Mr. Goldstein stated that he supplemented
his prior submission with some additional photographs that he provided to Mr.
Sheehan.
Mr. Sheehan stated that the photographs were submitted via email. He received them
and printed them out and provided the photographs to the ZBA in order for the ZBA to
take a look at the situation as it exists with the landscaping along the sidewalk where
the fence is proposed to be located within eighteen (18) inches of the sidewalk.
Acting Ch. Windecker marked the photographs as Exhibits and had the Petitioner sign
them.
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There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no questions or comments from the audience.
Corn. Shapiro made the following motion:
I move we grant the amended request made by Scott and Jamie Goldstein, 2000 Wright
Boulevard, for variance of Fence Code, Section 15.20.040, pertaining to Residential
Districts, for the purpose of constructing a four (4) foot open style fence beginning on
the south elevation at the rear of the garage extending south a distance of
approximately twenty nine (29) feet six (6) inches beyond the building setback line along
Olive Hill Drive stopping about eighteen (18) inches north of the sidewalk; then turning
west to the rear property line maintaining an eighteen (18) inch separation from the
sidewalk; then turning north a distance of approximately eighteen (18) feet.
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated June 1, 2012. The existing
landscaping along Olive Hill Drive is to be trimmed back to not obstruct the public right-
of-way. The Petitioner has demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The
proposed fence will not be detrimental to the public health, safety and welfare and will
not alter the essential character of the neighborhood.
Corn. Cesario seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote:
AYE—Cesario, Steingold, Shapiro, Au, Windecker
NAY—Lesser
ABSTAIN —None
Motion Passed 5 to 1. Findings of Fact attached. Permit may be issued in fifteen (15)
days—July 5, 2012.
NEW BUSINESS
600 BUFFALO GROVE ROAD, INDECK ENERGY SERVICES - REVIEW OF STATUS OF THE
EXISTING FOR RENT, SALE, LEASE SIGN
Mr. Richard McCarty, Imperial Realty Company, 4747 W. Peterson Avenue, Chicago,
Illinois 60646, was present and sworn in.
Mr. McCarty advised that currently there is five thousand nine hundred thirty seven
(5,937) square feet of vacant space available on the second floor. He requested an
additional six (6) month extension.
There were no questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were no
questions or comments from the audience.
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Corn. Lesser made a motion to grant a six (6) month extension for Indeck Energy
Services, for the "For Rent, Sale or Lease" sign located at 600 Buffalo Grove Road.
Petitioner to appear at the December 18, 2012 Zoning Board of Appeals meeting for a
status review of the sign.
Corn. Au seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote:
AYE—Cesario, Steingold, Lesser, Shapiro, Au, Windecker
NAY—None
ABSTAIN —None
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Item to appear on the December 18, 2012 Zoning Board of
Appeals agenda.
2950 N. MAIN STREET, NORTHWEST CENTRAL DISPATCH - FENCE CODE, SECTION
15.20.040, FOR THE PURPOSE OF INSTALLING ADDITIONAL NINE (9) FOOT HIGH VINYL
COATED CHAIN LINK FENCING AROUND THE TOWER AND RADIO SYSTEM EQUIPMENT
LOCATED AT 2950 N. MAIN STREET
Ms. Cindy Barbera-Brella, Northwest Central Dispatch, 1975 Davis Street, Arlington
Heights, Illinois 60005, was present and sworn in. The public hearing notice published in
the Daily Herald on June 1, 2012 was read.
Ms. Barbera-Brella advised that approximately ten (10) years ago at the Vernon
Township property, Northwest Central Dispatch received a variance for a nine (9) foot
high fence around the tower that is at that location. They have made some
improvements as they are changing out the radio system that serves the Police and Fire
Department in Buffalo Grove and the other eleven (11) communities that they provide
service to. They are looking to extend that nine (9) foot high fence so they can enclose
the building and an ice bridge that they have that runs the feed line for the antennas
from the structure to the tower. This would give them additional risk protection because
there is a ball field to the north and they want to make sure that they keep any children
off the tower for safety purposes.
Acting Ch. Windecker read the Village Engineer's memorandum addressed to Brian
Sheehan dated June 4, 2012 which states: "I have no comments on the proposal."
Corn. Shapiro asked if there is anything at the top of the fence that would prevent
someone from climbing over the fence. Ms. Barbera-Brella stated that it is just a regular
chain link fence. There is no barbed wire or anything like that. The fence would be nine
(9) feet to give additional height than the Ordinance allows.
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Corn. Cesario confirmed with Ms. Barbera-Brella that the proposed fence will be same
style fence as the existing nine (9) foot chain link fence. Ms. Barbera-Brella added that
they are adding a gate for access. They are working in conjunction with the Township on
this project as there is some benefit to the Township to allow the Township to store
some materials on the site. The fence will be the same, a black, vinyl coated, nine (9)
foot high chain link fence.
Mr. Raysa asked to explain what an ice bridge is. Ms. Ms. Barbera-Brella stated that an
ice bridge is a cable tray from the shelter to the tower so they can run the feed line
above ground.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no questions or comments from the audience.
Corn. Lesser made the following motion:
I move we grant the request made by Northwest Central Dispatch, 1975 Davis Street,
Arlington Heights, Illinois 60005, for variance of Fence Code, Section 15.20.040,
pertaining to Residential Districts, for the purpose of installing additional nine (9) foot
high vinyl coated chain link fencing around the tower and radio system equipment
located at 2950 N. Main Street.
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated June 4, 2012. The Petitioner has
demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed fence will not be
detrimental to the public health, safety and welfare and will not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood.
Corn. Shapiro seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote:
AYE—Cesario, Steingold, Lesser, Shapiro, Au, Windecker
NAY—None
ABSTAIN —None
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Findings of Fact attached. Permit may be issued in fifteen (15)
days—July 5, 2012.
787 STONEBRIDGE LANE, COLLEEN PRAGALZ AND OSCAR RIVERA - FENCE CODE,
SECTION 15.20.040, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING A FOUR (4) FOOT CHAIN
LINK FENCE BEGINNING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE HOUSE AND EXTENDING
EAST TO THE EAST PROPERTY LINE ALONG STONEBRIDGE LANE, THEN TURNING
SOUTH TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE MAINTAINING A DISTANCE OF EIGHTEEN (18)
INCHES FROM THE SIDEWALK, THEN TURNING WEST AND RETURNING TO THE
BUILDING SETBACK LINE
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Ms. Colleen Pragalz and Mr. Oscar Rivera, 787 Stonebridge Lane, were present and
sworn in. The public hearing notice published in the Daily Herald on June 1, 2012 was
read.
Mr. Rivera explained they created an outdoor living space in three (3) separate areas.
They have a fire pit, a covered pergola and a patio on the side of the house. The areas
are currently separated with the existing fence. They would like to incorporate the third
outdoor living area into the backyard and make it one (1) unified space. They would like
to use the rest of the yard for gardening and would like to protect the yard from dogs
and human traffic.
Acting Ch. Windecker stated that there is an existing fence that runs along the building
line. The request is to extend the fence into the corner side yard which could interfere
with the line of sight and safety of the public because of the turn in the road. To extend
the fence could be a problem. The backyard is fairly large and has been improved. The
reason to extend the fence for flower beds and vegetable gardens does not meet the
hardship criteria as set forth in the Ordinance. He asked the Petitioner's if they have any
animals. Mr. Rivera stated that they have two (2) dogs. Acting Ch. Windecker asked the
Petitioner's about the size of their dogs. Mr. Rivera stated that one (1) dog weights sixty
(60) pounds and the other weights eighty (80) pounds. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that
a four (4) foot high fence is not very high to contain the dogs if the fence extended that
far out. He cannot support the request as proposed.
Com. Cesario asked if the intent is to remove the portion of the existing fence to enclose
the yard. Mr. Rivera stated that is correct.
Mr. Rivera asked the ZBA if the height of the fence is an issue. He understands that there
are restrictions for certain dog breeds, which his dogs do not fall into. He stated that he
would be willing to install a five (5) foot high fence and asked if that would make a
difference. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that he believes that the concern revolves
around safety and a corner side yard, which the ZBA normally looks at very carefully,
because of line of sight issues. This particular street is very narrow when there are cars
parked on both sides of the road.
Corn. Lesser stated that he has lived on a corner lot so he can appreciate what the
Petitioner's are looking to do. In order for the ZBA to grant a variance, there needs to be
hardship or unique circumstances established. This property is a very nice sized corner
lot. It appears to be a large backyard as well. He cannot support this request because he
does not see the hardship or unique circumstances being established. The gardens and
flower beds could be placed in the side yard;they just would not be fenced in.
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Ms. Pragalz stated that long term, the dogs are neither here nor there. Yards are yards
whether they are fenced in or not. You will still tend to the yard. They will put in their
gardens and do their thing. The issue is that as dog owners, they do not put there dogs
on retractable leashes but those retractable leashes can run a dog onto someone's front
porch. They have seen that. Also if they put any type of landscaping or garden in without
a fence, it will get trampled by others. Some people are very respectful; while others are
not. There has also been some past tension. The fence would be more for protection of
their yard because they have gone to great lengths to establish themselves in the
community and build a home. They cannot wait to have a family. As it is now, the dogs
do not matter because in the long term it does not make a difference for them. The
fence is for them and protection of their property. As far as a visibility issue, the
proposed fence is chain link. She does not need the barrier or the privacy of a wooden
fence as some corner lots on their block have. They just want to protect their property.
They have already paid dearly for not having that area fenced in. The hardship is that
their yard is not already fenced in.
Corn. Lesser stated that the alternative would be to plant a natural barrier with a hedge
or bush to give the Petitioner's that privacy. Mr. Rivera stated that then they would have
a solid green fence which becomes a visual impairment which is exactly what the other
ZBA member is against. Corn. Lesser stated that he is just explaining the options
available to the Petitioner that do not require a variance. Ms. Pragalz rebutted that a
natural barrier would be a visual problem and some of their neighbor's do have that.
She agrees that hedges would be a nice idea and provide privacy and would block out
some traffic but it would pose that visual danger that the Village is trying to avoid. Mr.
Rivera added that a chain link fence would be easier to maintain and they would feel
safer.
Corn. Shapiro would like to hear what the neighbors have to say regarding the proposed
fence.
Corn. Cesario agrees with the Petitioners regarding the dog issue. He explained that the
Village revised the Fence Code last year after a tremendous amount of debate. The
Village has been enforcing the Fence Code for a number of reasons; the aesthetics, the
common look about the Village, etc. Typically a variance is for safety issues. Hearing the
testimony, the request is not for safety reasons. He would also like to hear from the
neighbor's.
Eugene O'Sullivan, 802 Stonebridge Lane, was present and sworn in. Mr. O'Sullivan has
lived at his address for approximately thirty (30) years. He supports the fence request.
He is very happy that this couple had moved into the house a couple of years ago. The
house was previously run down and an eyesore in the neighborhood. The Petitioner's
have taken the last couple of years to almost redo the entire property. He is behind the
additional changes with the requested.fence. As far as visual impairment, which he
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believes is the ZBA's biggest concern; this property is located on a turn in the road, not
on a corner. The speed limit is twenty five (25) miles per hour. If anyone is going faster
than that they might see the fence as a problem, but they shouldn't be going faster. This
fence would be something that can be seen through. This fence would be a proper
height for the location. As both the Petitioner's have stated, the fence would be to give
them some protection. He asked for the ZBA to imagine everyone cutting across their
yards because they do not want to take the sidewalk or dogs going wherever they want.
Children running wherever they want. Talking about the fence and the dogs, he has
heard that it is really not that important in the long term. However, children can run
right up to the fence as it exists now if they want to.
Acting Ch. Windecker asked Mr. O'Sullivan if the Petitioner's ever call the Police when
someone is letting their dog run loose or people are cutting through the yard. Mr.
O'Sullivan stated not to his knowledge. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that the Village
does have Ordinances regarding dogs running loose and dogs not on leashes. Mr.
O'Sullivan responded that dogs have run loose in the neighborhood and the Police have
been called. He is not referring to dogs running loose. He is referring to testimony by Mr.
Rivera of dogs on retractable leashes that can extend up to thirty (30) feet going all the
way up to a house. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that is a violation of the Ordinance. He
believes that people walking their dogs are from that neighborhood and can be dealt
with accordingly. If people are letting their dogs up to the front door because of the
retractable leashes, then the Police should be notified right away and should take action
right away. Mr. O'Sullivan stated that he has no argument with Acting Ch. Windecker's
comments.
Megan O'Sullivan, 802 Stonebridge Lane, was present and sworn in. She understands
that dogs should not be running everywhere, but you cannot always see dogs running up
onto the property. She understands why the Petitioner's want to protect their property
from dogs that they do not know. She would also like to point out that parking is not
allowed on both sides of the street. There is a No Parking sign posted on the Petitioner's
side of the street. In terms of safety around the turn and the visibility of a chain link
fence she believes that it should be fine. Acting Ch. Windecker replied that he happened
to visit the property on a Saturday night and had a hard time getting through the street
due to parking that was on both sides of the street. Ms. O'Sullivan responded that on
normal occasions there should not be parking on that side of the street, but that there
was a wedding that occurred on this past Saturday which had more cars than usual
present on the street.
Barb Weiss, 772 Stonebridge Lane, was present and sworn in. Ms. Weiss stated that she
lives across the street from the Petitioner's but on the other side. She lives on the bend
of the horseshoe. Her living room faces directly to the Petitioner's backyard. She sees
people that feel they can walk up to the Petitioner's fence, which is quite a bit away
from the sidewalk, and speak to them or pet their dogs at any time. People do trample
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the Petitioner's yard. People do walk by with their dogs and the dogs do run into the
yard when the Petitioner's are not home or at any given point. That fence is like a
beacon inviting people to walk up to it. The Petitioner's have done beautiful things in
their backyard and people are curious and walk up and look. Their side yard does get
trampled quite a bit. Many times the Petitioner's are not there to see it. They work and
are gone all day long. She understands the request for the variance. Acting Ch.
Windecker asked if the dogs are outside. Ms. Weiss replied no and added that people
walk up when the Petitioner's are not home. If the dogs are outside, people or kids will
come up to the fence to pet the dogs at the fence. One way or another, whether the
fence is eighteen (18) inches from the sidewalk or where it is located now, people will
walk up to the fence. She understands the need for the request.
Rob Sherman, 778 Stonebridge Lane, was present and sworn in. He also lives directly
across the street from the Petitioner's. He has lived in his home for twenty eight (28)
years. He is not shy about letting anyone know if a project would be a problem, even if
they are neighbors across the street. The side yard that the Petitioner's have is really a
no mans land. It does not do anyone any good and they pay a large amount of money in
property taxes for the property. As previously stated the street is a curve, not a corner,
with a twenty five (25) miles per hour speed limit. It is very rare that people are parked
on the street in violation of the street signs. The Petitioner's are proposing a four (4)
foot chain link fence, you can see right through the fence. He has been there often, he
has driven around that turn, both in his car and in his mobile home and visibility is not a
problem. The neighbor directly behind the Petitioner's, on Boxwood, have bushes that
come out all the way to the sidewalk. The fence would mirror the neighbor's bushes.
Regarding calling the Police concerning issues with dogs, they are fortunate enough to
live in a wonderful neighborhood where everyone gets along. If there is a problem with
a dog, they would talk to the neighbor rather than talking to the Police. They would let
the neighbor know about the concern and the concern is resolved. This project would
not have any negative effect on his property value, it would not have any negative effect
on the neighborhood, and it would not have any negative effect on the line of sight. Ms.
Pragalz and Mr. Rivera have been perfect neighbors, the best neighbors. They have
spent a lot of time and a lot of effort to upgrade what was a shabby property to what is
now the crown jewel of the neighborhood. The only issue he has is that now he needs to
keep up with them. The unique circumstance is that this is more of an extension of their
backyard. At the southeast corner of Stonebridge and Radcliffe Road the fence comes all
the way out to the sidewalk. That fence does not bother anybody. If the Petitioner's
fence comes out as they have requested, it will not have any negative effect and will
give them the use of what is now a no mans land and will not block visibility.
Celeste Sherman, 778 Stonebridge Lane, was present and sworn in. She wanted to
reiterate what Mr. Sherman had said. She agrees that the request for the fence should
be approved. She does not have any issues with the request. The Petitioner's have been
wonderful neighbors. She believes that they should have full use of their property.
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Mr. Sherman added that he strongly supports this request and urged the ZBA to support
it too. These circumstances will not cause any negative impact. It will probably increase
their property values because it shows that they were able to utilize their property
without causing any negative impact.
Katie Friedman, 730 Old Post Road, was present and sworn in. Ms. Friedman stated that
she also has a corner lot. She had remodeled and landscaped. She understands that
everyone wants to use their lots. They all wish that they were completely fenced and
that people would not walk through the yards. She does not like retractable leashes and
dogs on her property either, but that is the way it is. Those are the rules when you have
a corner lot. Her concern is the dogs. She is a dog person, she works for a rescue, she
has lots of dogs all the time, but when you do have dogs you have to be aware of that.
With a four (4) foot fence being extended it is a concern. The dogs are jumpers; they are
protective of their property, which is certainly their owner's prerogative. Her child has
friends on that street and they have forbidden him from going on that side of the street.
The dog's heads clear the fence now. They are dangerous. They have spoken to the
Health Department, or the group that monitors dog registrations. The Village has had
other calls about the dogs. If the fence comes to the sidewalk, she is concerned that the
dog's heads will clear the fence even if the kids are on the sidewalk. She is also
concerned that approving the request will give the dog's additional room to run and
clear the fence. The dogs can clear a four (4) foot fence. If the dogs do not have any
space to gather speed, then they cannot jump the fence. The further out the fence is the
more concerned she will be. The biggest issue is that they cannot walk down the
sidewalk without there being an issue with the dogs. She does not understand what the
circumstances are that makes this different than any other corner lot in her
neighborhood.
Corn. Cesario asked Ms. Friedman if she would feel differently if the fence was located
four (4) feet instead of eighteen (18) inches from the sidewalk or if there a distance she
would be comfortable with. Ms. Friedman stated that she would feel more comfortable
if the fence was further away from the sidewalk. The distance the fence is at now does
not concern her as long as her child knows to stay away from that side of the street and
if for some reason needs to be on that side of the street to stay on the sidewalk. She is
not sure what an appropriate distance would be but she believes that the request needs
to be looked at very carefully. The fence would need to be at a point where just by
walking on the sidewalk minding your own business there would be no possibility to be
in contact with the fence, or the dogs. Com. Cesario asked Ms. Friedman if the fence
were located three (3) or four (4) feet away from the sidewalk would she feel
significantly more comfortable. Ms. Friedman stated that at four (4) feet she would feel
more comfortable.
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Corn. Shapiro asked Ms. Pragalz and Mr. Rivera if their dogs have ever jumped over the
current fence. Ms. Pragalz and Mr. Rivera responded that the dogs have never jumped
the current fence. Com. Shapiro asked the Petitioner's how long they have had the dogs.
Mr. Rivera stated that they bought the property in October 2008 and they have had the
dogs with them there since day one (1). The dogs have fifty (50) plus feet of runway to
get a running start and clear the fence if they wanted to. One (1) dog jumps, the other
dog does not. The dogs are not dangerous dogs. Kids do come up to the fence that is
twenty five (25) feet back from the sidewalk and kids are at the fence all day long. They
have neighbor's whose kids come to the fence when they are home and they have never
had an issue with their dogs being dangerous. Ms. Pragalz stated that if she is taking
trash out through the gate, their dogs are not the type of dogs that are eager to get out
of the yard. The dogs do not try and push their way out of the yard and they are not
fighting to keep them in. The dogs listen. They have worked very hard to make sure that
the dogs listen because of the size of the dogs. Whether the dogs were twenty (20)
pounds or eighty (80) pounds, they have taken great strides to ensure that the dogs are
well behaved. Corn. Shapiro asked if there have been any citations issued because of the
dogs. Mr. Rivera responded no. Corn. Shapiro asked if the dogs are registered with the
Village. Ms. Pragalz responded yes.
Acting Ch. Windecker asked the Petitioner's how old the dogs are. Mr. Rivera stated that
the female is five (5) years old and the male is four (4) years old. Acting Ch. Windecker
asked if the dogs weigh between sixty (60) to eighty (80) pounds. Mr. Rivera stated that
the female weighs eighty (80) pounds and the male is sixty (60) pounds. Acting Ch.
Windecker asked how tall the dogs are if they stand up on the fence. Ms. Pragalz stated
that the male maybe could reach the top of the fence. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that
the female would then be taller than the fence. Ms. Pragalz stated that the female is not
the one that jumps. Mr. Rivera stated that their dogs are very obedient and there is
hardly a time that they are outside without being unsupervised. That is one of the
reasons for the request. When the weather is nice they spend as much time as they can
outside. If the dogs do react to another animal they control them immediately. Acting
Ch. Windecker asked about the breed of the dogs. Mr. Rivera responded that they are
American Bull Dogs. Ms. Pragalz added that they had taken a permit out about a year to
construct a dog run on the opposite side of the house so when there is a situation where
the dogs would be unattended they would be contained. Acting Ch. Windecker asked if
both the Petitioner's work. Ms. Pragalz advised that they are both in the field of
education. Acting Ch. Windecker asked where the dogs are kept when the Petitioner's
are not home. Ms. Pragalz and Mr. River both responded that the dogs are kept inside
the house.
Corn. Steingold asked what makes the Petitioner's lot unique compared to all other
corner lots in Buffalo Grove. He also stated that the dogs the Petitioner's have today
may be different from the dogs they may have tomorrow. Ms. Pragalz responded that
they are not a corner lot; their property is located on a curve. It is a lot different. Mr.
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JUNE 19, 2012
PAGE 12 of 23
Rivera added that they are looking to utilize the space and they have that opportunity.
They have a third outdoor living area and they would like to use the space in the back
corner for landscaping and gardening, which they have already done on the other side of
the yard. They would like to continue that look and continue to improve the look of their
property. Ms. Pragalz added that they do not have a door that accesses that side of the
house so they go out the front door and have to go all the way around. There is no gate
on the side. It is about twenty five (25) by thirty (30) feet of land that they could do a lot
with if it were inside the fence. They pay high property taxes and they maintain the area
the best they can right now, but they do not even have a window on that side. They
cannot always see what might be happening on that side of the house. They cannot
protect their property from that angle. They do not have the visual ability to do so. What
makes the property unique is that it is a space on a curve that will be utilized and will
only add to everything that they have already done to revamp and renovate this house
and property.
Com. Au asked if the neighbor to the rear on Boxwood has a fence. Mr. Rivera stated
that neighbor does not have a chain link fence. What the neighbor has is a full hedge
that wraps around to the front of his house, which is about eight (8) feet deep abutting
the sidewalk.
Corn. Cesario stated that based on the testimony by the neighbors it appears that the
Petitioners have been getting an excessive amount of trampling on the property and of
people cutting through the yard. His understands that is part of the basis for the
request. He asked the Petitioner's if they would be willing to amend their request to
locate the fence a distance of four (4) feet away from the sidewalk instead of eighteen
(18) inches. Ms. Pragalz responded no. She stated that they are very comfortable with
the proposed distance of the fence at eighteen (18) inches. They would be willing to put
in a small three (3) foot or four (4) foot tall hedge between the fence and the sidewalk.
They have already considered a hedge to add that extra element of physical separation
between their fence and the sidewalk. It is telltale of the types of dogs that they have
that children in the neighborhood constantly come up to the fence to play with the dogs
or come around to the other side to throw the ball. They are responsible dog owners
and they take great strides to continue the dogs training, constantly. They do not feel
that a four (4) foot separation would make any difference concerning the hardship that
Ms. Friedman is claiming concerning the dogs being at the fence. No matter where the
fence is located from the sidewalk, people will come to the fence to see the dogs.
Brian Smaha, 792 Stonebridge Lane, was present and sworn in. Mr. Smaha stated that
he was a Police Officer in a north shore suburb for nine (9) years and dog calls were
primarily what they dealt with. He has a three (3) year old son that plays at the fence all
the time and if he felt that the dogs were a problem he would not let his son near the
fence or in the yard with the dogs. He does all the time. He knows what bad dogs are
and knows what good dogs are and he knows how it is frustrating to property owners to
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PAGE 13 of 23
have their lawns walked on and defecated on because he has responded to those calls
as well. He believes that the fence would add protection to their property to keep
people off their lawn. He also believes it would help with the property value. As far as
the dogs are concerned, there is no issue there. He would never let his three (3) year old
face to face with a dog that he thought would harm his child.
Mr. Sherman stated that the question was asked about what makes this property
different from all other properties on a corner or a curve. He believes that the answer is
that they live on a horseshoe, Stonebridge and Boxwood. There is another horseshoe at
Lehigh and Saratoga. What makes this property different from the other three curves is
that all those properties have something coming out all the way to the sidewalk or close
to the sidewalk. What makes this property different is that it is the only one that does
not have anything coming out. The variation would make the property consistent with
the other properties and he has never heard of any accidents or line of sight issues. He
also advised that he is afraid of dogs. He does not like dogs. The Petitioner's dogs are
very nice even though they are big and look scary. Their dogs are very well behaved,
obviously a sign of great parenting by the Petitioner's. Acting Ch. Windecker asked Mr.
Sherman what the other properties had that were different from this property. Mr.
Sherman responded the property on Boxwood has the hedges coming all the way to the
sidewalk. He is not exactly sure what the differences are but he did notice that the
fences come out to the sidewalk. This is the only property that does not have something
coming out to the sidewalk. Acting Ch. Windecker advised Mr. Sherman that landscaping
is allowed to be installed without a permit. Mr. Sherman stated that if the Petitioner's
put hedges in, it will be a green fence instead of a metal fence. Hedges would block the
view. The Petitioner's are talking about a chain link fence that would not block the view.
So if the ZBA is concerned about blocking the view, he believes that a chain link fence
would be preferred instead of tall hedges that would obscure the view.
Karen Shoulder, 730 Old Post Road, was present and sworn in. Ms. Shoulder has a
concern regarding hardship and a corner lot. She has a corner lot as well. She
understands about the high property taxes for property that you cannot use. She also
has a dog and would like to fence in to the sidewalk so that her dog can utilize the
property and so she could use the property. Her understanding was that you could not
do that. People walk by with dogs on retractable leashes and are on her property and
they run up to the bushes. She believes that dogs run up on front lawns even if you do
not have a corner lot. People walk dogs on retractable leashes and the dogs come up on
people's property regardless of what kind of lot they have. She asked if it considered a
hardship that dogs and people are walking on the grass because you cannot fence it in.
Mr. Sheehan stated that the Petitioner made reference to planting landscaping between
the proposed fence and the sidewalk. Anything planted within twelve (12) inches of the
sidewalk will encroach on the sidewalk and is not allowed. If the fence is allowed to be
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JUNE 19, 2012
PAGE 14 of 23
installed at eighteen (18) from the sidewalk, the Petitioner's should not plant anything
toward the sidewalk. They would be better off planting hedges inside the fence.
Mr. Sheehan also advised that the Village received an email dated June 18, 2012 that
was distributed to the ZBA concerning this public hearing. This email will be included as
an Exhibit to this application.
Com. Shapiro stated that he understands everyone's feelings regarding this matter. It is
a misunderstanding that if you do not have a fence you cannot use your property. He
also has a corner lot and a side yard and it is not fenced in and they still use the side
yard. He understands why the Petitioner's want the fence but it doesn't mean that you
cannot use your yard or that people will not walk on the yard anyway. The lack of use of
the property is not a reason. The key reason would be to keep people off your property.
Ms. Pragalz responded that the request is for protection of their property which was
stated in their letter submitted with the application. The number one (1) reason they are
asking for the fence is to protect their property. The neighbor's have attested to people
walking on and trampling their property and that is their hardship.
Corn. Cesario stated that the protection argument is a concern in that every property
owner in the Village can assert something similar; that dogs can walk on retractable
leashes, whether you are on a corner or not. We all would like to protect what is ours.
The Fence Code was written contemplating protection as well as openness and
aesthetics and all the elements together.
Corn. Cesario stated that the location of the fence is not a negotiation. Ms. Pragalz
stated that they would be willing to install a five (5) foot high fence instead of a four (4)
foot high fence if it would resolve the issue. If there was a preferred distance that the
ZBA felt they would be more comfortable with they may consider it.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no additional questions or comments from the audience.
Corn. Cesario made the following motion:
I move we grant the request made by Colleen Pragalz and Oscar Rivera, 787 Stonebridge
Lane, for variance of Fence Code, Section 15.20.040, pertaining to Residential Districts,
for the purpose of constructing a four (4) foot chain link fence beginning at the
northeast corner of the house and extending east to the east property line along
Stonebridge Lane, then turning south to the rear property line maintaining a distance of
eighteen (18) inches from the sidewalk, then turning west and returning to the building
setback line.
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JUNE 19, 2012
PAGE 15 of 23
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated June 4, 2012. The Petitioner has
demonstrated hardship and unique circumstances. The proposed fence will not be
detrimental to the public health, safety and welfare and will not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood.
Com. Shapiro seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote:
AYE—Shapiro, Au
NAY—Cesario, Steingold, Lesser, Windecker
ABSTAIN —None
Motion Denied 4 to 2. Findings of Fact attached. The Petitioner's were advised of their
right to appeal this decision to the Village Board.
1651 JOSEPH COURT, KALPANA AND SRINIVAS KOVVURI - FENCE CODE, SECTION
15.20.040, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING A FOUR (4) FOOT WROUGHT IRON
FENCE BEGINNING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HOUSE EXTENDING NORTH TO A
POINT TWO (2) INCHES FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE, THEN TURNING WEST
ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE ALONG APTAKISIC ROAD TO THE REAR PROPERTY
LINE STOPPING AT A POINT APPROXIMATELY NINE (9) FEET EAST OF THE FENCE
CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST
Mr. Srinivas Kovvuri, 1651 Joseph Court, was present and sworn in. The public hearing
notice published in the Daily Herald on June 1, 2012 was read.
Mr. Kovvuri explained that this is a new construction home. The property is located on
the corner of Aptakisic Road and Joseph Court. He has small children and likes to play
ball with the children in the yard. He wants to keep his children away from Aptakisic
Road where traffic is at speeds of over forty five (45) miles per hour. They do not want
their children to run onto the road. The request is for the safety of his children.
Acting Ch. Windecker confirmed that the primary fence location would be along
Aptakisic Road. Mr. Kovvuri stated yes. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that the Plat of
Survey submitted with the application shows the proposed to be located fourteen (14)
inches south of the sidewalk. Mr. Kovvuri responded that they do not want to leave the
front open. They want to put in a gate to stop the children from accidentally running out
onto the road. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that the proposed fence runs straight back
whereas the sidewalk curves. Acting Ch. Windecker asked the Petitioner if the fence will
be in line with the other fences along Aptakisic or if the fence will be located on the
inside of the sidewalk. Mr. Kovvuri stated that the fence would be located inside the
sidewalk. Acting Ch. Windecker stated that he does not understand what is meant by
the fence will be located fourteen (14) inches south of the sidewalk. He asked if the
fence will be straight. Mr. Kovvuri stated that the fence will go straight.
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JUNE 19, 2012
PAGE 16 of 23
Mr. Sheehan stated he believes the note should have read that the fence will be located
fourteen (14) inches south of the property line. The fence would follow the property line
in a straight line versus the sidewalk which curves away. The Village Forester and Village
Engineer were at the property and looked at the berm that was installed with the
landscaping. The fence would be installed parallel to the bushes located on the street
side of the bushes. The fence would run north from the home stopping at a point
eighteen (18) inches south of the sidewalk where it would turn west and run parallel to
the sidewalk. As the fence goes further west, the fence would pull away from the
sidewalk as the sidewalk moves north away from the property line.
Corn. Lesser stated that he also lived on a corner lot and appreciates what the Petitioner
is trying to do. However, he did not have a fence that captured the side yard. He also
lived across from soccer fields so he had people walking over his property all the time
and parking their cars in front of his driveway. The house is situated on a corner lot. If
the Petitioner adheres to the requirements of the Fence Code he believes that the yard
would be quite a nice size. He understands that the hardship is for the safety of the
children. The safety issue can be accomplished and achieved with a fence on the
building line. He does not see the hardship to grant a variance and he cannot support
the request.
Com. Au clarified with the Petitioner that the request is to place the fence two (2) inches
from the property line which would be fourteen (14) inches from the straight part of the
sidewalk. She asked if there is a fence that runs along the sidewalk on the west side
along Aptakisic Road. Mr. Kovvuri advised that the neighbor behind him has a fence
already. The proposed fence would be continuing the neighbor's fence along Aptakisic
Road.
Corn. Shapiro asked if the neighbor's fence is a wood fence. Mr. Kovvuri responded that
the neighbor's have a wood fence.
Corn. Cesario asked the Petitioner if there would be a gap between the neighbor's wood
fence and the proposed fence. Mr. Kovvuri advised that is correct. His neighbor's fence
is such a way that they left an opening approximately six (6) or seven (7) feet. He is
asking the neighbor to fence in the gap or add a gate. Corn. Cesario stated that at this
time it appears that section would remain open. He asked if that is the intention. Mr.
Kovvuri responded that is correct. Corn. Cesario stated that for now there will still be the
opening out to Aptakisic Road. Mr. Kovvuri stated yes. Corn. Cesario stated that applies
to the concern of the children running that way. Mr. Kovvuri stated that he spoke to his
neighbor and is negotiating with the neighbor to have something in place to enclose that
gap.
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JUNE 19, 2012
PAGE 17 of 23
' ner if that is the neighbor's property. Mr. Kovvuri
Acting Ch. Windecker asked the Pe ert where the gap would be located.
stated that it is the neighbor's property from the
14
h the fence would be located fourteen (14)
inches stated that the
Corn. Cesario asked why
of eighteen (18) inches from the sidewalk. Mr. Kovvuri the distance would
sidewalk in lieu g close to
not a straight line; it is at a bit of a diagonal so that
sewer line is very
sidewalk is inches. Th
befourteen (14) inches versus the eighteen (18)th
e sidewalk. The Village Engineer spoke with the contractor and that is why the
contractor proposed the fence location.
' eer's memorandum addressed to Brian Sheehan
Corn. Cesario read the Village Engineer's has
"We recommend that the fence be set back eighteen
ee
dated June 11, 2012 which states: driveway." He asked if the Petition
(18") from the sidewalk. There is no abutting
that he was not aware of this recommendatiobne
seen this report. Mr. Kovvuri stated
There are evergreen bushes which are
located on the Aptakisic side.The fence would
located next to the evergreen bushes
. Corn. Cesario stated that it is very difficult for the
recommendation. He asked if the Petitioner
ZBA to go against the Village Engineer's re uest to speak with Village staff about
would be willing to Table th stated that the Village Engineer was onsite with him to
recommendation. Mr. Sheehan placing the
review this petition and based on the measurements taken, the busheshefencea h at
inches from the sidewalk can be accomplished with
the property line.
eighteen (18) inches inside
ey
currently exist, which would place the fence six (6)
curr Y
the Village
Engineer's recommendation for the safety
advised the Petitioner that the ZBA does not againstgo
ouat is not amended
Corn. Au also of the public. If the request
to comply with the Village Engineer's recommendation it is very likely that the request
will be denied.
Acting Ch. Windecker also advised tha
t the ZBA will not go against the Engineer's
recommendation.
comply with the Village Engineer's recommendation
Mr. Kovvuri amended his request to the north property line.
to locate the fence six (6) inches inside
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
fom the audience.
no questions or comments
Corn. Shapiro made the following motion:
I move we grant the amended made1
request by Kalpana and Srinivas Kovvuri, ti 1
Joseph Court, for variance of Fence Code,
Section 15.20.040, pertainingResidential
to 165
constructing a four (4) foot wrought iron fence beginning ats
Districts, for the purpose of const g inches
extending north to a point no closer than six (6)
the northeast corner of house
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JUNE 19, 2012
PAGE 18 of 23
ro erty line along
Aptakisic Road to the rear p
west along the north p p nine (9) feet
property line, then turning stopping at a point approximately
from the northp property line
located on the property to the west.p
east of the fence currentlye 11, 2012. The Petitioner has
Subject to the Village Engineer's memorandum dated June
proposed fence will not s
Subj and unique circumstances. The i welfare and will not alter the essential
demonstrated hardship
health, safety and
detrimental to thpublic
character of theneighborhood.
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om. Cesario seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: ein old,Shapiro, Au,Windecker
AYE—Cesario, St g
NAY—Lesser ABSTAIN—None
be issued in fifteen days
Permit may
1 Fine�ngs of Fact attached.
Motion Passed 5 to 4.B
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BOARD OF APPEALS
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public hearing
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panel. that the request is being made
stated that it is his understanding that
stated that isi correct.
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has acquired the entire building. June 6,
because Sysmex (ART) minutes dated
the Appearance Review Team
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remain in advisede that the if thepart of
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Village Board agenda'
6 to O.Item to appear
on the lUIY9,2012
Motion Passed Grove,
of Buffalo Culver s The Board
pUCEMENTS the ZBA,s denial for18, 2012. Village
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advised that the appeal
Village Board
Mr. Sheehan ad ad,Was heard by °f 5 to 1.
450 McHenry R° b a vote
d the ZBA decision y COm.
upheld b
ADJOURNMENT made by Co Lesser and seconded Y
rn the meeting was°us
Motion to adjourn —AYE was unanimous.
Voice Vote at9:17 P.M.
Shapiro. meeting
Acting Ch.W inde
cker adjourned the
Submitted by,
Julie Kamka
Recording Secretary
BOARD OF APPEALS
ZONING 1UNE 19,2012
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