1992-06-16 - Zoning Board of Appeals - Minutes ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE . ILLINOIS
• - TUESDAY , JUNE 16 . 1992
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Richard Heinrich called the Zoning Board of Appeals meeting
to order at 8 : 05 P . M . on Tuesday . June 16 , 1992 in the Council
Chambers of the Village Hall , 50 Raupp Boulevard .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : J . Paul . B . Entman , L . Windecker ,
L . Arbus and R . Heinrich . QUORUM .
Commissioners Absent : M . Kearns
Bldg . Dept . Liaison : Edward Schar , Deputy Building Commissioner
Village Attorney : Thomas Dempsey
Village Board Liaison : Bruce Kahn . Trustee
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Because of the length of the Agenda , approval of the minutes was
postponed until after the business was conducted .
IV . BUSINESS
A . 153 Lilac Lane , Ilya Golod
Fence Code . Section 15 . 20 . 040 - Residential Districts
The public hearing notice was read and Mr . Ilya Golod was sworn
in . He reviewed his past appearances before the ZBA in his
quest for a variance of the Fence Code for the purpose of
constructing a fence that would extend past the building line
along Armstrong Drive . The previous location was denied by the
ZBA and by the Village Board of Trustees because the fence
would not be in line with the existing fence at 622 Armstrong
Court . Mr . Golod has revised his application to comply with
Zoning Board ' s decision and the Village Engineers line-of-
sight recommendation . The fence would be located ten feet
( 10 ' ) past the building line and would be in line with the
fence on the abutting property .
Comments of Commissioners :
Ch . Heinrich : None
Com . Paul : Asked why the part of the fence . facing Lilac Lane ,
was angled and what advantage was there in not having it
perpendicular to the house?
Mr . Golod responded that it is angled pursuant the Village
Engineer ' s line-of-sight review and it is more pleasing to
him personally from an aesthetic point of view . He said the
additional cost and maintenance were not important factors .
Com. Entman: No further comments or objections .
Com. Windecker : No questions or comments .
Com. Arbus : No questions or comments .
There were no questions or comments from the audience .
Com . Windecker made the following motion:
I move we grant the request of Ilya Goiod , 153 Lilac Lane .
for variance of Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 . pertaining
to Residential Districts , for the purpose of constructing
a five foot ( 5 ' ) solid wood privacy fence that would be
fifteen feet ( 15 ' ) from the sidewalk along Armstrong Lane .
Said fence would be in line with the existing fence on the
adjoining property and would be tapered pursuant to the
Village Engineer ' s Line-of-Sight Review, dated 2/28/92 .
The essential character of the neighborhood would not be
affected and the proposed fence would not be detrimental
to the public health , safety and welfare .
Com. Entman seconded the motion
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Arbus . Windecker , Paul , Entman . Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days (July 2 . 1992) .
B. 229 Cottonwood Road , Terry L. Weber
Zoning Ordinance . Section 17 . 32 . 020 - Pertaining to :
Location of Accessory Buildings and Structures
Terry L . Weber was represented by attorneys Jerry Weintraub and
Alfred Stavros . 350 E . Dundee Road , Wheeling . IL 60090
Terry Weber was sworn in. The public hearing notice was read .
Mr . Weber is seeking a variance to permit completion of the
construction of a garage that would encroach a distance of five
feet (5 ' ) into the utility and drainage easement at the rear of
the property.
Ch. Heinrich informed the applicant , and the audience , that it
takes a minimum of four ( 4 ) affirmative votes to pass a motion
and there are only five ( 5 ) out of six (6 ) ZBA Commissioners
present . If any petitioner feels it is more advantageous to
table or postpone their hearing until the next official meeting
night , request may be made anytime during their presentation.
Mr . Weintraub said they would proceed . He summarized the
events that have taken place since the Zoning Board of Appeals
granted Mr . Weber a variance for the purpose of constructing a
garage that was to be located ten feet ( 10 ' ) from the rear
property line . Section 17 . 32 . 020 of the Buffalo Grove Zoning
Ordinance permits garages to be constructed five feet (5 ' ) from
the rear property line , but not on any easement . After a
permit was issued on April 15 . 1992 , Mr . Weber proceeded to
spot the garage and on May 5 . 1992 he was given approval to
pour the footings and the foundation wails (Exhibit II ) .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 . 1992 - Page Two
When an inspection was made on May li , 1992 . it was discovered
that the garage was actually located within the utility
easement . Mr . Weber obtained a new survey which verified that
the foundation appears to be 4-1i2 to 5 feet into the utility
easement . He obtained consent waivers from Com Ed and IL Bell .
When construction of the garage continued , a Stop Work Order
was issued on May 19 , 1992 .
It would be a hardship on Mr . Weber to have to remove the
foundation and relocate the garage . Because of the unique
character of the lot , with White Pine Ditch to the rear .
there is no other house directly to the rear .
Mr . Weintraub asked Terry Weber to verify the facts that have
been stated . He repeated that it would be very costly to him
to have to reconstruct the foundation of the garage and it
would also move the structure much closer to the house . The
place- ment of the garage , five feet (5 ' ) from the rear lot
line . would not be a detriment to any of the neighbors .
Ch. Heinrich asked Mr . Schar how the garage got to the present
stage of construction if a survey was submitted with the permit
application?
Mr . Schar replied that the permit was issued based on a
diagramed plat of the property showing a ten foot ( 10 ' )
easement . It did not show the garage encroaching into the
ten foot ( 10 ' ) easement .
Mr . Stavros corroborated this statement . He added that it was
an oversight on the part of Mr . Weber not to take a second
measurement after he spotted the garage and the footings were
poured . The unintentional mistake was discovered by the
Building Inspector when the second inspection was being made .
The Ordinance does not require a spotted survey for an acces-
sory building .
Ch. Heinrich said the problem occurred when Mr . Weber submit-
ted a rendering instead of an actual piat of survey. He wanted
to clarify whether there was an administrative oversight on the
Village ' s part and it appears that there was not .
Mr . Stavros agreed . It was a problem that could not have been
anticipated by Mr . Weber , the applicant , or by the Village when
the permit was approved .
Ch. Heinrich quoted from the Village Engineer ' s Review , dated
June 4 , 1992 : "This location has been previously reviewed and
involved a revision to the Village Floodplain Map which ulti-
mately removed this property from the floodplain. While we
would not encourage routine - crowding" of facilities such as
the White Pine Ditch . it does not appear that encroachment is
significant .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 . 1992 - Page Three
All soil ( including that of the abutting property) needs to be
removed . and the property restored to its existing condition.
Although there is no established easement along the south
property line , we would suggest five feet (5 ' ) setbacks in the
future . "
Ch. Heinrich verified that the garage materials will match the
house and the driveway will run along the side of the house .
Comments from the audience :
Mrs . Greta M. Harris , 248 Lincoln Terrace , owner of property to
the rear of Mr . Weber ' s , inquired about any possible drainage
problem?
Ch. Heinrich assured her the Village Engineer ' s Review has
established that the drainage will not be affected , but if
the creek overflowed in the past . it could happen again.
Comments from Commissioners :
Com . Arbus : Asked whether the gas company or cable company has
been contacted?
Mr . Stavros replied that he checked the Title Policy . The gas
easement is in the front , not the rear . They are not aware of
any cable lines .
Com. Arbus : Recommended that the utility letters be attached
to any ordinance that is passed ; that the petitioner hold the
Village harmless from any future liability for granting the
ordinance ; and he would also like to have the variance recorded
as a covenant that runs with the land to prevent any future
purchasers of the property from claiming liability.
In response , Mr . Dempsey stated that the Village does not
enforce the utilities ' use of the easements . If access is
required , the utility companies would have to deal directly
with Mr . Weber . He bears the responsibility to remove a
portion of the garage , if necessary . The Village would bear no
liability.
Com. Entman: Shared Com. Arbus ' concerns about a potential
claim that granting of the variance would somehow condone and/
or affirm the actions of the petitioner .
Mr . Dempsey said the Village Ordinance prohibits building on
the easement . Granting the variance does not hold Mr . Weber
harmless or indemnify him for the future responsibilities or
rights of the various utility companies . Any variance runs
with the land . Any future sale of the property would include
the encroachment of the garage on the easement and the papers
would include a copy of the ordinance . The buyer should be
informed of his rights and responsibilities .
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June 16 . 1992 - Page Four
Com. Arbus : Said it is his intention to vote affirmatively and
he just wanted to be satisfied that the risk is on the part of
the petitioner , not on the Village , if he does not have letters
from other utilities . etc . The Village Engineer ' s requirements
should also be made part of the variance .
Mr . Dempsey said that the variance can include conditions , but
he noted Com Ed ' s approval letter raises some requirements .
Mr . Stavros said the Illinois Immunity Act actually protects
the Village . The property belongs to the Titleholder but the
easement is a conditional right for utility companies to come
onto the property. The utility companies would have the
direct line for cause of action against Mr . Weber if he
obstructed or prohibited their access to come on the property.
He would not object to conditions being stated .
Com. Arbus : Was satisfied if problems would be between the
petitioner and the utility companies . He had no objections .
Com. Windecker : Asked Mr . Schar if the location of the pour
was inspected before the pour? The packet did not include
Exhibit B which is a copy of the Field Inspection Report .
Mr . Schar said it is sometimes very difficult to determine the
exact location of a building . It is the responsibility of the
homeowner to follow the approved plan.
Exhibit B. dated 5-5-92 . was produced and states : "Trench
foundation - pre pour walls only - wall cap not included .
OK to pour . " Signed by the Building Inspector and Mr . Weber .
Ch. Heinrich agreed that the Building Department has stipulated
that the actual location was not checked prior to the pouring
of the foundation. He asked Mr . Schar when locations are
checked?
Mr . Schar answered that there are usually some barriers , such
as a fence , that are in place that make it easy to determine
where a lot line is , but there is no way of knowing where a lot
line actually is . They do not have the jurisdiction or the
authority to determine where the lot line is . This is the
homeowner ' s responsibility.
Mr . Stavros said the stakes were put in after Mr . Weber called
for a staked survey . There were no exposed iron pipes when the
foundation was put in. There was no intentional error .
Com. Paul : Said that under the given circumstances . he sees no
reason not to grant the variance .
Com. Entman: Said if Mr . Weber has talked to his neighbors and
they do not object , then he has no problem with the variance as
long as there is no potential for any liability against B. G.
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June 16 . 1392 - Page Five
Mr . Stavros said they would file the utility letters of record
and will provide the Village with copies of the filing .
Ch. Heinrich asked Mr . Dempsey if it is necessary to record the
documents?
Mr . Dempsey said the garage will be there if the property is
ever sold and it wiii be shown on the survey , so it would not
be necessary to record the paper . but Mr . Stavros said he would
have it done .
Com . Paul made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Village Board of Trustees that
the request made by Terry L . Weber , 229 Cottonwood Road ,
for variance of the Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 32 . 020 ,
pertaining to Location of Accessory Buildings and
Structures , be granted for the purpose of constructing a
garage five feet ( 5 ' ) into the easement on the east side
of the property . Said variance to be subject to the
criteria set by the Village Engineer .
Condition of the variance being that the letters from
the utilities be properly recorded with the Recorder of
Deeds along with the variance as a permanent record on
the property.
The plight of the owner is due to unique circumstances .
`./ Hardship having been demonstrated , the granting of the
proposed variance will not be detrimental to the essential
character of the neighborhood .
Com . Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman. Arbus , Windecker , Paul , Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached.
An Ordinance will be prepared and this item will be placed on
the Village Board Consent Agenda of the July 6 , 1992 meeting .
C. 448 Glendale Road . Gerard and Linda De Lizer
Zoning Ordinance . Section 17 . 32 . 020 , Pertaining to :
Location of Accessory Buildings and Structures
Gerard and Linda De Lizer were sworn in and the public hearing
notice was read . Mr . De Lizer summarized their reasons for
requesting a variance :
1 . They need more storage space
2 . They have 3 cars and a 1 car garage .
3 . They want to construct a 2 car garage with a
second story to be used for Mr . De Lizer ' s
hobbies . In order to have enough room for the
second story , a one foot ( 1 ' ) variance is
required .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 , 1992 - Page Six
They have discussed the proposed garage with their neighbors
and there have been no objections . No neighbors were present .
A diagram of the garage was presented . It will match the
house and they will run the electric underground in accordance
with the Buffalo Grove requirements .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul : Asked about the actual height of the garage .
The garage itself will be eight feet (8 ' ) . The second story
would be six foot four inches ( 6 ' 4 ' ) plus allowance for ceiling
height . totaling another eight feet (8 ' ) .
Com . Paul : No problem with proposed variance .
Com . Windecker : No questions or objections .
Com . Arbus : Asked what the unique circumstances were? The
criteria of the Zoning Ordinance requires unique circumstances .
Mrs . De Lizer explained that their house is very small and has
very little storage space . The additional storage space would
be beneficial if they were to sell the house . The house has a
finished basement . One of their cars is an old Beetle and they
need to store it inside the new garage . They plan to restore
it someday , so they are keeping it as an antique .
Com. Paul commented that without the additional space . they
would not have room for storage .
Mr . De Lizer added that he also wants the second story space to
work on his hobby . which is electronics . He is close to
retirement age . but they want to have the garage built now .
Com. Entman: Said he understood there is hardship and the
circumstances are unique . As long as the next door neighbors
do not object , he has no problem with the variance .
Ch. Heinrich: Referenced the Village Engineer ' s Review , dated
June 4 , 1992 , which states : "The proposed garage . . . . will not
affect the existing drainage pattern. " He had no objection.
Com . Windecker made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Village Board that the
variance requested by Gerard and Linda De Lizer ,
relative to Zoning Ordinance . Section 17 . 32 . 020 ,
pertaining to Placement of Accessory Buildings and
Structures - Height Restrictions . for the purpose
of constructing a garage that would exceed the
height limitation by one foot ( 1 ' ) be granted .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 . 1992 - Page Seven
Materials are match the existing house in like kind and
quality. Garage to be constructed pursuant to plans
submitted to and approved by the Village of B.G.
Petitioner having exhibited hardship and unique
circumstances , the proposed garage will not alter
the essential character of the neighborhood .
The recommendation of the Village Engineer should
be followed , that being : . . . "no alteration of the
grade within five feet ( 5 ' ) of the property line or
swale is allowed . '
Com . Paul seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman. Paul , Windecker . Heinrich
NAY - Arbus
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
An Ordinance will be prepared and the item will be placed on
the Village Board Consent Agenda of the July 6 , 1992 meeting .
D. 546 Crown Point Court , Myles and Elyse O' Desky
Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020 , pertaining to :
Area , Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations
Myles O' Desky was sworn in and the public hearing notice was
read . There was a scriveners error in the notice . The address
is Crown Point Court . not Drive .
Mr . O' Desky summarized the reasons for requesting a variance :
1 . A patio was poured in 1986 with the intent of
eventually constructing the screen porch and
42" footings were also poured at that time .
2 . The property abuts Willow Stream Park and the
Farrington Ditch. They cannot use the patio
because there are so many mosquitoes . The screen
porch is necessary for them to sit outdoors .
3 . They have 2 growing sons and want to enjoy
spending time with them on the porch.
When they requested a 14 ' x 18 ' porch , they were informed the
Ordinance only permits variances of up to 1/3 of the required
rear yard , so the request is for a variance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) .
Mr . O' Desky said he has informed his neighbors of the proposed
screened porch and there have been no objections . There were
no neighbors present .
The siding , roof and shingles will match the existing house .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Entman: Said he saw the house . With the park and ditch
to the rear , there are no neighbors to be affected . The porch
will be an improvement .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 . 1992 - Page Eight
Com. Paul : No objections .
Com. Windecker : No objections .
Com . Arbus : No objections .
Com . Entman made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Myles and Elyse O'Desky,
546 Crown Point Court , for variance of the Zoning
Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020 , pertaining to : Area ,
Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations , for the purpose
of constructing a screened porch at the rear of the
property that would encroach a distance of ten feet ( 10 ' )
into the required thirty foot (30 ' ) rear yard setback .
Conditions being that the variance is not to exceed
ten feet ( 10 ' ) into the rear set back ; and the proposed
addition is to be built pursuant to , and in accordance
with, plans and specifications approved by the Village .
Materials are to match the existing structure .
Variance is granted subject to the Village Engineer ' s
Review , dated June 4 , 1992 , relative to drainage and
that no alteration of the grade within five feet ( 5 ' )
of the property line or swale is allowed .
Petitioner having demonstrated unique circumstances ,
the proposed addition will not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood .
Com . Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Arbus , Windecker , Paul . Entman, Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days (July 2 , 1992 ) .
E. 1311 Hidden Lake Drive , Lee and Nancy Singer
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 - Residential Districts
Lee and Nancy Singer were sworn in.
Com . Arbus announced that he lives next door to the Singers
and said he would not comment or vote on their petition.
Ch. Heinrich reminded Mr . and Mrs . Singer about the require-
ment of four (4) affirmative votes to grant a variance and
asked if they wanted to proceed after Com. Arbus announcement?
The Singers opted to proceed . The Public Hearing Notice was
read . Mrs . Singer summarized their reasons for requesting a
variance for the purpose of constructing a fence that would
extend nineteen feet ( 19 ' ) past the building line along
Thompson Boulevard :
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Nine
1 . To maximize the use of their back yard
2 . They purchased a corner lot to have more space .
3 . They have two young children and a dog so they
need the fence for safety and protection from the
traffic at the corner .
4 . The traffic will be heavier if/when Thompson Boulevard
is extended across Buffalo Grove Road .
The fence will be a five foot ( 5 ' ) picket style with 1-1 /2 inch
spacing between boards . They have not spoken with the people
who live to the rear . They talked with Lee Arbus , but he
declined to comment .
Ch. Heinrich said he looked at the property and observed that
this would be the first fence going into the side yard along
Thompson Boulevard . This situation is different because
usually houses on corner lots have more room in the side yard
than to the rear . The Singers have a large yard to enclose
without a variance .
Mr . Singer commented that they would be cutting off about 1/3
of their back yard without a variance . With their patio , if
they put up a swing set , there would not be much room for the
children and the dog to run around in. He cited a similar
fence two houses away .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul : Drove down the block to the east and looked back at
the property. The area is very open and there is a driveway
along the rear lot line , so he would not want a fence to extend
too far out . He said he would compromise and proposed to allow
a fence extending ten feet ( 10 ' ) past the building line .
Mr . Singer commented there are bushes along most of the adja-
cent property line . These neighbors have not come to object .
Ch. Heinrich responded that neighbors do not like to come
forward because it causes bad feelings . One reason for having
a Zoning Board of Appeals is to permit review of situations and
prevent variances that would alter the essential character of
the neighborhood .
Com . Windecker : Would not vote for a variance ten and a half
feet ( 10 . 5 ' ) from the sidewalk , but he could support a variance
ten feet ( 10 ' ) from the building line .
Com. Entman: With the driveway to the rear , the end of the
proposed fence would be too close to the driveway and would be
detrimental to the public health , safety and welfare . The area
down Thompson Boulevard is very open and he would not want to
see walls built . People should make themselves aware of any
Village restrictions when they purchase corner lots .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 , 1992 - Page Ten
Com . Singer commented that their model projects at least ten
feet ( 10 ' ) farther into the rear yard than many of their
neighbors ' houses so they have a smaller back yard . They did
talk to many of their neighbors and heard no objections .
Com. Entman: Said he understood that they want to use as much
of the property as possible , but they would nearly have a 2 , 000
square foot rear yard without a variance . Not sure he could
support any variance .
The Village Engineer ' s Review , dated June 4 , 1992 , states :
" . .we have reviewed the line-of-sight requirements at the
subject location and find it is not affected by the proposed
fence . "
Ch. Heinrich: Was also hesitant to grant any variance . He
explained the Singer ' s options : To Table until July 21 , 1992 ,
amend their petition, or ask for a vote on the variance as
proposed . If denied , they can appeal to the Village Board .
The Village Board generally upholds the ZBA decisions .
Ch. Heinrich polled the Commissioners :
Com . Paul : Variance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) would be acceptable .
Com. Windecker : Would support a variance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) .
He added that it is customary for commissioners to acknowledge
that they are personally acquainted with petitioners and they
do not comment or vote .
Com . Entman: Repeated his concern about the line-of-sight from
the neighbor ' s driveway but decided he could permit the fence
to be ten feet ( 10 ' ) past the building line .
Ch. Heinrich: Asked Mr . Schar to request a statement from the
Village Engineer whenever there is a nearside driveway . He
would consider a variance of no more than ten feet ( 10 ' ) and
commented that a fence located there would not affect the
neighbor ' s line-of-sight when exiting the driveway .
Mr . and Mrs . Singer considered their options and agreed to
amend their petition and asked for a variance to permit a fence
to be located ten feet ( 10 ' ) from the building line .
Com. Windecker made the following motion:
I move we grant the request of Lee M. and Nancy D. Singer ,
1311 Hidden Lake Drive , for variance of the Fence Code .
Section 15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential Districts .
for the purpose of constructing a five foot ( 5 ' ) open
picket fence that would be located twenty feet (20 ' ) from
the sidewalk along Thompson Boulevard .
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 , 1992 - Page Eleven
The essential character is the neighborhood will not be
altered and the fence will not be detrimental to the
public health, safety and welfare .
Com. Paul seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Paul . Windecker , Entman , Heinrich
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Arbus
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 . 1 abstention.
Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days (July 2 . 1992) .
Com. Arbus commented that the Singers are wonderful neighbors .
F . 1307 Witney Lane . Mark and Marlene Schwartz
Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 36 . 020 - Pertaining to :
Parking and Loading : Purpose : Construction of a circular
driveway with two curb cuts on Witney Lane
Mark Schwartz , 1307 Witney Lane , was sworn in and the public
hearing notice was read .
Ch. Heinrich read letters of objection from two neighbors .
One from an anonymous person and one from Larry and Mary Hill .
1300 Witney Lane . Objections were based on concern for the
safety of small children because of the additional curb cut .
Mr . Mark Schwartz explained that the reasons they requested a
variance are not for their personal use . They will continue to
use the garage for their cars . They could not back out of it
and use the circular driveway. The purpose of the circular
driveway would be for other cars that come to their residence
and must sometimes be parked overnight .
They are also concerned with the safety of the small children
who live on the street . Many families have basketball hoops on
the driveways . For this reason . cars are being parked on the
street . making it difficult to back out of the driveway and
avoid backing into the cars which are parked in the street .
The Schwartz ' have three growing boys . They anticipate that
the family could someday have as many as five (5) cars . They
do not want to add to the congestion of cars already on the
street , especially in the winter .
Another reason for seeking the variance is for the convenience
of Mrs . Schwartz ' father when he comes to visit . He is a
diabetic and has had several heart attacks , so a circular
driveway would make it easier for him to enter the house .
Mr . Schwartz presented photographs of similar sized lots with
two curb cuts and commented that property is enhanced when
tastefully landscaped .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twelve
Ch. Heinrich said . based on his observation , the property is
too narrow for two curb cuts . He personally has a wider lot
on a cul-de-sac but he would not consider a circular driveway .
They also have a two car garage and at times there are five
cars that have to be shuffled around , but it can be done .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com . Paul : Agreed with Ch . Heinrich' s comments and said the
front yard would look like a parking lot because there would be
no room left for any landscaping . The photographs showed one
house with a truck and a van parked in front of the house . He
would want to avoid this .
It was noted that the pictures were not taken in Buffalo Grove .
Ch. Heinrich said that when the ordinance was revised recently .
it was to accommodate larger width lots with the houses to be
set back farther . It would not work in this case .
Mr . Schwartz asked what size lot would support a circular
driveway?
Mr . Schar said that zoning districts R-E, R-1 and R-2 would
permit a circular driveway and the required widths at the
building lines are 125 ft . , 100 ft . and 90 ft . . respectively .
Com. Windecker : Observed that the photographs were of houses
that are set back farther than the petitioner ' s house and there
is attractive landscaping . He could not support the variance .
Com. Arbus : Said he is acquainted with Mr . and Mrs . Schwartz .
They live a block west of him and he is a very good friend of
the Pritikins who live across the street from the Schartz ' .
He has not discussed this situation with any of them .
Com. Arbus said the number one thing he considers when review-
ing any variance request is the affect it will have on most of
the neighbors . Based on the letters from two neighbors , he
could not support the variance .
None of the people in the audience stated any objections .
Mr . Jeff Pritikin, 1308 Witney Lane . was present . He had taken
the pictures of circular driveways in Northbrook . The houses
were set back 30 to 40 feet and the lots are from 70 to 80 feet
wide . He has no objections to the proposed circular driveway.
Com. Entman: Said he spoke to a neighbor who expressed
concern with the speed issue . He could not support the request
because the petitioners have not exhibited any unique circum-
stances that warrant a circular driveway and , if permitted , it
would alter the essential character of the neighborhood .
Ch. Heinrich said the consensus of the ZBA Commissioners is
negative and asked Mr . Schwartz if he had any other testimony?
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16 , 1992 - Page Thirteen
Mr . Schwartz asked if he could widen the driveway into a
3-car driveway? Some of his neighbors have 3-car garages and
3-car driveways .
Ch. Heinrich said they would require an 80 foot width lot and
the setback of the house would have to be a minimum of 30 feet .
The plat of survey indicates that the lot meets these require-
ments but they only have a 2-car garage . He asked Mr . Dempsey
if it is necessary to have a 3-car garage to have a 3-car
driveway?
Mr . Dempsey said they would have to apply for variance of a
different section in order to have a 3-car driveway without a
3-car garage . They could widen the driveway without a
variance , but it could be no wider than 18 feet at the
sidewalk .
Mr . Schwartz said they were considering a different model house
and asked for 3-car garage , but the builder told them it would
not be permitted . They learned later that it would have been
allowed but the foundation had already been poured .
Mrs . Schwartz was present and commented that their neighbors
across the street have cars parked on the street all the time
and it is very difficult to back out of their driveway . She
said she does often drive her boys to ball practice but she
observes the speed limit and is careful of the small children.
A 3-car driveway down to the street would be very helpful .
Ch. Heinrich said he would support a 3-car driveway widened to
the curb , but the Schwartz ' would have to reapply for another
variance .
Com. Paul : Would not have a problem if the driveway was
widened out to the street .
Com . Windecker : Would not support widening the driveway to the
street . They can park two (2) cars in the garage and four (4)
on the existing driveway .
Mr . Schwartz responded that four (4) cars on the driveway would
block the sidewalk.
Com . Arbus : Would want to know how the neighbors would feel
about widening the driveway. Said the house next door to his
has a 3-car garage with a 3-car apron and there is still nine
feet on either side . If the Schwartz ' extended their driveway
all the way the property line it would be right next to the
neighbor ' s driveway and there would be a very wide curb cut .
A driveway could not be extended toward the house because there
is a window well .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Fourteen
Mr . Schwartz said his boys are only 8 , 10 and 12 years old now ,
but he wants to change his driveway from asphalt to cement and
he does not want to wait until parking becomes an issue .
Com . Entman said he could not commit himself to any decision.
Ch. Heinrich advised Mr . and Mrs . Schwartz that if they with-
drew their request they would lose their right to appeal a
negative ZBA decision. Tabling was not advisable because even
if 7 ZBA Commissioners are present , they would not get 4 votes .
Com . Arbus made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Village Board of Trustees
that the variance requested by Mark and Marlene Schwartz ,
1307 Witney Lane . for variance of Zoning Ordinance ,
Section 17 . 36 . 030 . pertaining to Parking and Loading ,
for the purpose of constructing a circular driveway
with two curb cuts on Witney Lane , be granted .
The plight of the owner is due to unique circumstances
and the proposed variation will not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood .
Com . Paul seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - None
NAY - Entman . Paul . Windecker . Arbus , Heinrich
Motion Denied - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
An ordinance will be prepared and this item will be placed on
the Village Board Agenda of the July 6 , 1992 meeting .
Ch. Heinrich advised Mr . and Mrs . Schwartz to attend the
Village Board meeting if they want to present their case
and try to have the ZBA decision changed .
G. 399 Regent Drive , Douglas and Susan Millstone
Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020 . Pertaining to :
Area , Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations
Mr . Gary Lyne , Lyne Construction, 337 Rosewood Avenue
Buffalo Grove , IL 60089 (541-0503) was authorized to repre-
sent Douglas and Susan Millstone by letter dated May 22 , 1992 .
The Public Hearing Notice was read and Mr . Lyne was sworn in.
He summarized Mr . and Mrs . Millstone ' s reasons for requesting a
variance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) in order to construct a screen
porch:
1 . The variance would permit construction of
an 18 ' x 13 ' screen porch and the porch
would permit them to enjoy the outdoors
without the annoyance of insects , etc .
2 . The screen porch will connect with the
family room at the only viable location.
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Fifteen
The shingles will match the existing roof and the rest of the
addition will be screens with cedar siding to match the house .
Mr . Lyne said the Millstones have informed their adjacent
neighbors . There were no objections and no objectors were
present .
The existing patio will be removed and a deck will be built .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com . Entman: No objections . The corner lot is large and there
are bushes around . The proposed addition will not impinge on
any of the neighbor ' s privacy .
Com. Paul : No problem with variance . The addition would
really be in the side yard . There are bushes and 2 trees
between the addition and the neighbors to the south.
Com. Windecker and Com. Arbus : No questions or objections .
The Village Engineer ' s Review , dated June 4 , 1992 , states :
"The proposed addition will not affect the existing
drainage pattern. "
Com . Paul made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition made by Douglas and
Susan Millstone , 399 Regent Drive , for variance
of Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020 , pertaining
to Area , Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations ,
for the purpose of constructing a screened porch
that would extend a distance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) into
the required thirty foot (30 ' ) rear yard setback .
Hardship and unique circumstances having been
demonstrated , the proposed addition will not alter
the essential character of the neighborhood .
Com. Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman , Arbus , Windecker , Paul , Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days (July 2 , 1992 ) .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Sixteen
H. 920 Knollwood Drive , Lynn and Mary Herther
Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020 , Pertaining to :
Area . Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations
Lynn and Mary Herther were sworn in . The Public Hearing Notice
was read . Mr . Herther summarized their reasons for requesting
a variance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) for the purpose of constructing a
screened porch:
1 . The screen porch would permit them to enjoy
the outdoors without insects .
2 . Their daughter is allergic to mosquito bites
and she cannot go out on the patio .
3 . The existing block patio is deteriorating and
it would be nice to replace it with the porch.
They have informed their neighbors of the proposed plan and
there have been no objections .
The porch will match the existing house , with wood painted
to match the siding and shingles to match the roof .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com . Paul : The house backs up to the retention basin . which
breeds mosquitoes . No problem with variance .
Com. Windecker : No questions and no objections .
Com. Arbus : Represented Mr . and Mrs . Herther when they bought
the house , but has had very little contact with them since .
He had no objections .
Com. Entman: No questions or objections .
Com . Arbus made the following motion:
I move we grant the request of Lynn and Mary Herther ,
920 Knollwood Drive , for variance of Zoning Ordinance .
Section 17 . 40 . 020 , pertaining to Area , Height , Bulk and
Placement Regulations , for the purpose of constructing a
screened porch at the rear of the property that would
encroach a distance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) into the required
thirty foot (30 ' ) rear yard setback .
The roof shingles are to match the existing shingles .
Petitioners have demonstrated unique circumstances .
in that their daughter is allergic to mosquito bites ,
and the proposed addition will not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood .
Com. Windecker seconded the motion.
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Seventeen
The Village Engineer ' s Review, dated June 4 , 1992 , states :
"The proposed addition will not affect the existing
drainage pattern. "
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman, Paul , Windecker , Arbus , Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days (July 2 , 1992) .
I . 440 Foxford Drive , Michael and Kandy Holton
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 - Residential Districts
Michael Holton was sworn in and the Public Notice was sworn in .
Mr . Holton summarized the reasons for requesting a variance for
the purpose of constructing a six foot (6 ' ) wood privacy fence
along 30 feet of the rear lot line and the interior lot line :
1 . A six foot (6 ' ) fence would eliminate the noise
from Buffalo Grove Road which is approximately
70 - 75 feet away from the interior lot line .
2 . They have a 7 year old daughter and a baby on the
way , so they want to provide security and privacy
for them.
3 . Since Dominick ' s opened up , there has been a
significant increase in traffic .
4 . Construction trucks create a lot dirt and dust .
Ch. Heinrich commented that Canterbury Fields has an existing
wrought iron fence along Buffalo Grove Road . This lot does
not abut Buffalo Grove Road and there is one buildable lot in
between. The proposed fence would be a wall between the
Holtons and their future neighbors .
Mr . Schar said this fence must be approved by the builder and
the Homeowner ' s Association.
Mr . Holton said he is aware of these requirements and he will
secure the proper documents after the variance is granted .
Ch. Heinrich hesitated to permit the proposed fence without the
approval of Dartmoor because it might make it more difficult to
sell the lot . He asked if one foot ( 1 ' ) will make much of a
difference in the noise factor .
Mr . Holton said he has discussed the fence with Dave Obos ,
Dartmoor ' s Superintendent . Another reason for requesting a
six foot (6 ' ) fence is that the lot slopes down at the rear
and the fence will give them more privacy around the patio .
The higher fence will protect the lot from the wind . They plan
to put trees along the rear lot line to screen the fence . The
neighbor to the rear does not object to the proposed fence .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Eighteen
Ch. Heinrich said that when the next house is built , it will
block a lot of the traffic noise and dirt , etc .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com . Entman: Agreed that the difference between a six foot
(6 ' ) and a five foot (5 ' ) fence may not help much, but he
would not want to permit the variance until after the house
is built on the next lot . The purchaser may or may not want
a six foot (6 ' ) fence along the interior lot line . He added
that a five foot ( 5 ' ) fence may take care of the problems .
Com . Paul : Agreed that it is premature to allow a six foot
(6 ' ) fence without hearing from someone who has a direct
bearing on the situation. He could not support the variance
at this time .
Com. Windecker : Agreed with Com. Entman ' s and Com . Paul ' s
comments . He would want to have the consent of the association
and the builder before granting the request .
Ch. Heinrich recommended Tabling the petition until after the
approvals from Dartmoor and the Homeowner ' s Association have
been given. It would then be possible for the ZBA to act , but
there is no certainty that a variance would be granted .
Mr . Holton said Dartmoor was notified of the variance and has
not objected . He was willing to seek the written approvals
and come back to discuss the situation with the ZBA.
Com . Entman questioned whether the ZBA could approve a variance
without the approval of the Homeowner ' s Association.
Mr . Dempsey responded that the ZBA could grant the variance
because the Village does not enforce private covenants .
Com. Arbus : Expressed the same concerns as the other Commis-
sioners but questioned whether , regardless of Dartmoor and/or
Association approval , the approval of one six foot (6 ' ) fence
would make it necessary to approve all other similar requests?
Ch. Heinrich said that the ZBA would convey to the Association
that the approval of Mr . Holton' s six foot (6 ' ) does not bind
either the Village or the Association to any type of precedence
Com. Arbus : Said he would be hard pressed to approve the fence
at this time . He went into the sales trailer to see if the
adjacent lot is buildable . Mr . Holton is close to Dominick ' s .
Mr . Holton explained that they knew about the Buffalo Grove
Road expansion when they purchased their home two years ago .
They knew there could someday be a house next to theirs and it
will be even closer to Buffalo Grove Road when it is widened .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Nineteen
Ch. Heinrich said he understood how bad the Buffalo Grove Road
traffic is but the when a house is constructed on the next lot ,
it will do an effective job of blocking the noise , etc .
Mr . Holton expressed doubt whether the lot will ever be sold ,
because of its location, and said that the six foot (6 ' ) fence
will help his cause . He thought he could get Pat Taylor of
Dartmoor and the Association to sign off on the fence .
Assuming that Dartmoor and the Association recommended that a
variance be granted , Ch. Heinrich polled the Commissioners :
Com . Arbus : Said he wasn' t sure if he could support the
variance .
Com . Windecker : Would consider the situation at that time .
He has lived on busy roads and knows that there is not truck
traffic all the time and people do get used to vehicles . He
didn' t think the one foot ( 1 ' ) difference would make much
difference as a buffer for noise or reduction of dust and dirt .
Mr . Holton said he felt it would help his family and would not
be a detriment to any of the neighbors .
Com. Paul : Considering the future homeowner of the lot next
to the petitioner ' s . It is probably the worst lot in the area .
With the builder ' s approval he might possibly vote for the
variance . He would like to talk with the purchasers .
Com. Entman: Would be better if they could talk to the
purchaser , but that may or may not ever take place . Assuming
the variance was granted , purchasers would know they are buying
a lot with a neighboring six foot (6 ' ) fence and they might be
able to use it as a good negotiation point to get a good deal .
It would be a bad scenario , if the lot is sold before the fence
is constructed . Without a disclosure clause , it would be an
unfair situation. Doesn' t see that a six foot (6 ' ) fence is
really any better , but if the builder and the association do
not have any objection, he would consider the new input .
Ch. Heinrich explained the options to Mr . Holton. They could
vote on the petition and if denied , the decision could be
appealed to the Village Board . The request could be Tabled
and Mr . Holton could go to Dartmoor and the Association , but
even with their approval the variance could be denied , so the
process could be delayed .
Mr . Holton elected to Table until July 21 , 1992 and said he
would bring in written approvals .
There were no comments from the audience .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty
Ch. Heinrich directed that Dartmoor and the Association be
notified that each variance is considered on its own merit and
there is no precedence for granting a variance . Their approval
is not to be construed as Village approval .
Com . Entman made the following motion:
I move we Table the request of Michael and Kandy Holton ,
440 Foxford Drive . for variance of the Fence Code ,
Section 15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential Districts ,
for the purpose of constructing a six foot (6 ' ) wood
fence along the rear lot lien an the interior lot line ,
until the next regularly scheduled meeting , July 21 . 1992 .
Com . Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Arbus , Windecker , Paul , Entman, Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion to Table Passed - 5 to 0 .
J . 500 Half Day Road - Harris Bank Wall Sign on East Elevation
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 030 , Business Districts
Mr . John Byrnes . Senior Vice President , Harris Bank Barrington,
201 South Grove Avenue , Barrington, IL 60010 ( 381-4000) was
sworn in and the public hearing notice was read .
Mr . Byrnes said the reason for requesting a variance is for the
purpose of installing a wall sign on the east elevation of the
Harris Bank at the Woodland Commons Shopping Center . Harris
Bank is a free-standing building on an outlot at the shopping
center . Two wall signs are permitted facing the two right-of-
ways , but there is no sign on the east elevation to identify
the building to people within the center or those traveling
westbound .
Ch. Heinrich asked if the lack of a sign on the east elevation
will affect business? A bank is not normally a transient
facility and people living in Buffalo Grove will know where the
bank is located .
Mr . Byrnes replied that people coming into the shopping center
do not know where the building is . The signs on the building
are very conservative and the bank is not identified on the
Woodland Commons Ground Signs .
Ch. Heinrich asked if they have other free standing buildings
and how these buildings are identified?
Mr . Byrnes said that the building in South Barrington has a
ground sign : in Lake Barrington Shores the sign is part of
the center ' s identification sign; and in Crystal Lake the signs
are on the building.
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty One
Ch. Heinrich noted the Appearance Commission recommended
approval on June 11 , 1992 .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com . Paul : Considers the sign to be an information sign. The
shopping center is large and if someone new to Buffalo Grove is
looking for the bank they would not know where the building is
located from within the center . He would recommend approval .
Com. Windecker : The sign will be identical to the other signs
and is needed to identify the building from the east side of
the center . He will support the variance .
Com . Arbus : Agreed . Said it will improve the side of the
building and will also be good advertising for Buffalo Grove .
Com . Entman: No objections .
No comments from the audience .
Com. Windecker made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Village Board of Trustees
approval of the variance requested by Harris Bank ,
of the Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 030 , pertaining to
Business Districts , be granted that would permit
construction of a wall sign on the east elevation.
Sign to be constructed according to plans , drawings
and specifications submitted to and approved by the
Village . Sign to be approved according to
Sign Code , Section 14 . 44 . 010 , Sub-section B.
Com . Entman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Arbus . Windecker , Paul . Entman, Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
An Ordinance will be prepared and the item will be placed on
the Village Board Consent Agenda of the July 6 , 1992 meeting .
K. 300-350-400 E. Dundee Road , Grove Terrace Condominiums
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 010 - Residential Districts
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 070 - Ground Signs
Mr . Mike Williams of Saturn Signs , 830 Seton Court , Wheeling ,
IL represented Grove Terrace , per letter of authorization
dated , May 19 , 1992 . The Public Hearing Notice was read .
The Appearance Commission reviewed the signs and recommended a
variance on May 14 , 1992 .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty Two
Mr . Williams was sworn in and he summarized the reasons for
requesting a variance :
1 . There is no building identification.
2 . Two signs are requested for aesthetic reasons
and for better visibility from both directions .
3 . The sandblasted signs are small and will blend
well with the landscaping . They will also be
incorporated into the existing brick columns .
The Village Engineer ' s Review , dated June 4 , 1992 , states :
"From a sight distance standpoint , the east location
would be acceptable five feet (5 ' ) back from the
property line ; the west location would be acceptable
eight feet (8 ' ) from the property line . However ,
both will have to be set back further due to a
watermain conflict . "
Mr . Williams said they would comply with the Village Engineer ' s
Review and they always check all the utilities before instal -
ling signs .
Mr . Schar said the signs would have to be set back a minimum of
eight feet (8 ' ) and would require the Village Engineer ' s
approval .
Comments from Commissioners ;
Com . Paul : Would hesitate to approve the signs without knowing
exactly where the signs are going to be located . He ' s not sure
where the brick columns are located. He assumes they are north
of the water main, but they may be at the southernmost point
where the sign could be located and if the signs are setback
farther , the brick columns could block out the signs
Ch. Heinrich advised Mr . Williams to consult with the Village
Engineer and submit a drawing giving the exact location of
each sign and its relation to the brick columns . The item
will have to be Tabled until July 21 . 1992 .
Com. Arbus asked if it was possible to identify Grove Terrace
with one sign?
Mr . Williams said one sign was considered . If it was parallel
to Dundee Road , it would be obstructed and with the speed of
traffic , it would not work well . If a double-faced sign was
located on the island , it would also be obstructed with trees .
Com. Paul made a motion to Table until July 21 , 1992 . Motion
was seconded by Com . Windecker . Voice Vote - Aye Unanimously.
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty Three
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L . 2150 East Lake Cook Road - Riverwalk
Sign Code . Section 14 . 20 . 030 , Business Districts
Mr . Timothy Beechick , Partner , Hamilton Partners , Inc . ,
1130 Lake Cook Road , Buffalo Grove , IL 60089 (459-9225) was
sworn in. Notice was published in the Buffalo Grove Herald on
May 29 . 1992 . Mr . Beechick said Hamilton Partners is the
managing agent and developer of the Riverwalk project .
Mr . Beechick presented the site plan and sketch of the proposed
signs . They are requesting a variance for the size , height and
location on the property because of the impending construction
of the overpass at Lake Cook Road and Milwaukee Avenue .
Proper identification in keeping with the high profile that has
been established by the Riverwalk Development is needed along
Lake Cook Road and on Milwaukee Avenue .
Workshop sessions have been held with the Zoning, Board of
Appeals and the Appearance Commission to discuss the whole
sign concept for the development . The proposed sign , in size
and detail , is almost identical to the collective agreement
that was made during the workshop sessions . Only slight
changes have been made . i . e . the size of the base has been
increased to give the public more view of the granite .
The Appearance Commission reviewed the signs on June 11 , 1992
and recommended that the variance be granted .
Ch. Heinrich asked where Lake Cook Road begins to elevate and
what the height will be in relation to the sign?
Mr . Beechick said there will be a grade change just to the west
of the Des Plaines River . Riverwalk will probably be about
2-1/2 feet below the grade of Lake Cook Road at the point where
there is an entry into the development and where the sign will
be located . The height of this sign is very important because
there will be a right turn into Riverwalk from the off ramp
that will be installed . The sign will actually be setback a
distance of sixty feet (60 ' ) from the Lake Cook right-of-way.
After condemnation of the land has taken place and the sign
will be setback a distance of fifteen feet ( 15 ' ) from the new
property line .
Since signs are to be setback the same distance as the height
up to twenty feet (20 ' ) , the proposed twenty-four foot ( 24 ' )
sign would require a variance of four feet (4 ' ) at this time .
even though it will be setback a distance of sixty feet (60 ' )
from the right-of-way . Ch. Heinrich asked Mr . Dempsey if
variance would give the sign "grandfather rights?"
Mr . Dempsey answered that the variance would be valid and the
sign would become non-conforming . If the sign should be
destroyed . it could not be replaced without another variance .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty Four
Ch. Heinrich established that the twenty-four foot (24 ' ) height
of the sign is necessary to give drivers enough visibility to
safety enter the Riverwalk development .
The sign on Milwaukee Avenue will be setback a distance of
thirty feet (30 ' ) to permit a future walkway around the
development . The sign is located within the area of the
detention pond for two reasons :
1 . The developer does not have control of the property
around the entrance which is to the north. To date , they
have not been successful in working out an agreement with
the owners of this property . The situation may change in
the future after the Milwaukee improvements are completed .
The proposed sign will help people to identify Riverwalk .
2 . They do not want the sign located too close to the
veterinary office because people may mistake that driveway
as the entrance to Riverwalk .
The monument sign will not be relocated even if the property at
the entrance is someday obtained . An agreement may be reached
that would permit a small ground sign that does not block the
gas station or the restaurant . Mr . Beechick said they want the
signs to be identical . People driving on Milwaukee Avenue will
never see the Lake Cook Road sign and it is very important to
have Riverwalk identified from both directions . There will be
a traffic signal at the corner so when people are stopped they
will be able to see the sign.
Ch. Heinrich commented that the signs are different and very
much improved from the thirty-one foot (31 ' ) signs that were
originally proposed . He has no objections .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul : Questioned how people traveling east on Lake Cook
Road would ever get to the building? By the time they cross
Milwaukee Avenue , it is too late . He suggested turning the
sign on Milwaukee at a different angle so that it could be seen
and give people time to exit and go under Lake Cook Road .
Mr . Beechick said they are aware of this problem and there is
no good answer to Com . Paul ' s question. Customers and clients
will be given directions when they call for appointments , so
people will learn how to get there . There is only so much
access to the right-of-way and they must work with what they
have . They have discussed how to get the best exposure . They
may be able to get an off-premise sign on the south side of
Lake Cook Road west of Milwaukee Avenue .
Com. Paul : Has no problem with the signs and locations .
Com . Windecker : No problem with the signs or location.
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty Five
Com . Arbus : Asked if the plans for the overpass are complete?
Mr . Beechick said construction of the off ramps is scheduled
for September and they will actually become Lake Cook Road
until the bridge is completed . The land has not been taken and
they have not been informed of anything definite . The project
will take more than two years to construct with funds coming
from the State and the County.
Com. Entman: Said he has talked with Mr . Beechick about the
possible leasing of space in the Riverwalk building , but this
will not influence his opinion. The proposed signs have been
scaled down from the original proposal and he has no problem
with the size , height and location in relation to the size of
the project and the buildings . He asked if other tenants will
be included on the signs (with Zenith)?
Mr . Beechick said they will be requesting additional copy to be
installed on the signs in the future , but it will always be the
same concept and copy will be presented to the Appearance
Commission for approval . The signs will have white internal
illumination. Any future directional signs will be submitted
for approval .
They hope to have the Lake Cook Road sign installed this year ,
but they will delay installing the one on Milwaukee Avenue .
They have a significant amount of landscaping to be relocated .
Mr . Dempsey informed Mr . Beechick that if the State takes the
property before the signs are in place , they could not be put
up without variance of another regulation of the Sign Code .
The signs will only become non-conforming if they are existing
when the land is taken.
Mr . Beechick thanked Mr . Dempsey for the information and said
they will make this a condition of the agreement that they will
have with the State . He will make sure that the State does not
take Title to the land before the signs have been installed .
Com . Arbus made the following motion:
I move we recommend that the Village Board of Trustees
grant the request made by Hamilton Partners for variance
of the Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 030 , pertaining to
Business Districts , for the purpose of constructing
two permanent monument signs : one ( 1 ) on Lake Cook Road
and one ( 1 ) on Milwaukee Avenue for property located at
2150 East Lake Cook Road . known as Riverwalk , as per the
site plan and drawings provided by Hamilton Partners .
Petitioners having demonstrated that the provisions of
Sign Code , Section 14 . 44 . 010 , Sub-section A have been met
in that :
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty Six
1 . The literal interpretation and strict applica-
tion of the provisions and requirements of this title
would cause undue and unnecessary hardships to the
sign user because of unique and unusual conditions
pertaining to the specific building or parcel or
property in question ; and
2 . The granting of the requested variance would not
be materially detrimental to the property owners in
the vicinity ; and
3 . The unusual conditions applying to the specific
property do not apply generally to other properties
in the Village ; and
4 . The granting of the variance will not be contrary
to the general objective of this title of moderating
the size , number and obtrusive placement of signs and
the reduction of clutter .
Com. Windecker seconded the motion.
Mr . Dempsey added that the variance is subject to the
Village Engineer ' s Review , dated June 4 , 1992 , which
states :
"Due to the existing proposed configuration of Lake Cook
Road and Milwaukee Avenue , there is no applicable sight
distance . Lake Cook Road should be located by an accurate
survey as this right-of-way line has not yet been
determined . The Milwaukee Avenue location needs to be
reviewed due to its close proximity to Village utilities . "
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman, Paul . Windecker , Arbus . Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
An Ordinance will be prepared and the item will be placed on
the Village Board Consent Agenda of the July 6 , 1992 meeting .
M. Route 83 and Bank Lane - Winchester Estates
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 010 - Residential Districts
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 030 - Ground Signs
Mr . Mike Larsen, Vice-President , Red Seal Development Corp.
425 Huehl Road , Building Eighteen , Northbrook , IL 60062 was
sworn in and the public hearing notice was read .
Mr . Larsen summarized the reasons for requesting a variance is
for the purpose of constructing two ground signs for identifi-
cation of the Winchester Estates subdivision. The main monu-
ment sign, located on Route 83 has been incorporated into the
landscaping and will enhance the retention pond area .
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June 16 , 1992 - Page Twenty Seven
Access into the project is off of Bank Lane so the second
identification sign is being requested for that intersection.
Ch. Heinrich noted that some of the comments made at the
Appearance Commission meeting (June 11 . 1992) are not
correct and the variances are required as published .
Comments from Commissioners ;
Com. Paul : No objections . Because of the way Route 83 curves .
it would be difficult to see more than two of the signs at one
time , probably not even two signs .
Com. Arbus : No problem if the Village Engineer ' s Review, dated
June 4 , 1992 , is complied with, i . e . the reference to the water
distribution system being in close proximity to both signs and
their exact location to be reviewed by the Operation Division.
Mr . Larsen agreed to work with Mr . Kuenkler and Mr . Rigsby.
Ch. Heinrich said this would be made a condition of the
variance .
Com . Windecker : No problem.
Ch. Heinrich asked Mr . Dempsey about the homeowner ' s associa-
tion being responsible for maintaining the signs and if so ,
should it be written up in the variance?
Mr . Larsen said he will verify if this requirement is written
up in the declaration and covenants . If not he agreed to the
stipulation.
Com . Entman made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Village Board of Trustees
that the petition of Winchester Estates at Route 83 and
Bank Lane , for variance of Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 010
pertaining to Residential Districts ; and Sign Code ,
Section 14 . 20 . 070 , pertaining to Ground Signs , for the
purpose of constructing two ground signs , be granted
subject to the following conditions :
1 . Adequate assurance be given that the home-
owner ' s association or some other entity will
be given the responsibility for the maintenance
of the signs .
2 . The variance is subject to the Village Engineer ' s
Review , dated June 4 . 1992 , which has been read
into the record .
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3 . Signs are to be constructed in accordance with
plans and specifications and materials approved by
the Village . Location to be pursuant to the site
plan submitted with the application for permit . in
compliance with the Village Engineer ' s Review .
4 . Variance granted pursuant to Sign Code ,
Section 14 . 44 . 010 , Sub-section B.
Com. Windecker seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Arbus , Windecker , Paul , Entman , Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
An Ordinance will be prepared and this item will be placed on
the Village Board Consent Agenda of the July 6 . 1992 meeting .
V . ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr . Dempsey announced that the Sign Code Revision is nearing
completion and something should be ready for submittal in July .
Ch. Heinrich asked if a change is being considered to permit free-
standing buildings on corner lots to have additional wall signs?
Mr . Dempsey responded that the Village will retain better control of
each individual situation, if the third sign is not automatically
given.
Ch. Heinrich asked if the text amendment permitting placement of air
conditioners on corner lots has been addressed?
Mr . Dempsey was uncertain when this will be done .
Motion to Table all the unapproved minutes was made by Com. Arbus
and seconded by Com. Windecker . Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously .
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com . Arbus made a motion to adjourn. Com . Windecker seconded the
motion. Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously. The meeting was adjourned
at 11 : 50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted .
Oder -
Shirley Ba
Recording Secretary
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