1990-05-15 - Zoning Board of Appeals - Minutes ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE . ILLINOIS
TUESDAY , MAY 15 . 1990
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Richard Heinrich called the meeting to order at 8 : 10 PM
on Tuesday , May 15 , 1990 at the Village Hall , 50 Raupp Blvd .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : M . Kearns , J . Paul , B . Entman ,
R . Lewandowski , H . Fields and
R . Heinrich
Commissioners Absent : D . Stolman
Bldg . Dept . Liaison : James Sylverne ,
Housing and Zoning Inspector
Village Board Liaison : S . Mathias , Trustee
Village Attorneys : R . Skelton and T . Dempsey
III . April 17 , 1990 - Motion to approve made by Com . Kearns and
seconded by Com . Paul .
Correction : Delete "we " from De Kruif motion
at top of Page Seven .
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Kearns , Paul , Entman ,
Lewandowski , Heinrich
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Fields
Minutes of April 17 , 1990 approved and will be placed on file .
Minutes of March 20 , 1990 remain Tabled .
IV . OLD BUSINESS
A . 270 Terrace Place , Howard and Michele Knaiser
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 - Residential Districts
Motion to removed from Table made by Com . Kearns , seconded
by B . Entman . Voice Vote : AYE Unanimously .
Howard and Michele Knaiser were present . They had asked
that their request be Tabled to permit time to consider
options . They had requested a 6 foot solid privacy fence
to be constructed on the lot line along Plum Grove Circle ,
to replace an existing 4 foot , open picket style fence that
has deteriorated .
The Village Engineer ' s Line-of-Sight Review , dated 4/9/90 ,
recommended the fence be set back 10 feet from the sidewalk
because the proposed fence would encroach into the required
sight distance for the intersection of Terrace Place and
Plum Grove Circle .
The Knaisers have met with Mr . Richard Kuenkler , Village
Engineer , and based on their conversation, submitted a new
plat (Ex . A) with an alternate proposal for a 4-1/2 foot ,
scalloped open picket fence to be constructed diagonally
from the rear lot , at the west end , at a point agreed upon
to be safe for the neighbors to exit their property to a
distance of 5 feet from the sidewalk along Plum Grove
Circle , to a point that again diagonals into the required
10 foot set back as required by the Village Engineer .
The fence at the rear lot line will be 5 foot , same design.
Mr . Knaiser said the compromise was reached after due
consideration of all the Village requirements , the opinions
expressed by the ZBA Commissioners and the community. The
proposed fence will maintain the essential character of the
lot
Mr . Kuenkler concurred with the revised proposal .
Mr . Steven Goldspiel , 972 Plum Grove Circle , was present .
He maintained his original objection that the fence was not
in keeping with the character of the neighborhood. He said
4-1/2 feet was too high, and proposed the maximum height be
reduced to 4 feet , scalloped down to 3-1/2 feet .
Mr . Knaiser said he had shown the proposal to Mr . Goldspiel ,
and some of their other neighbors . The following residents
were present :
1 . Sherry Koplan, 284 Terrace Place - lives next door
to the petitioners . She stated they have no problem
with the proposed fence and added that they will
appreciate the privacy that the fence will give them
also . Replacement of the existing fence will
improve the neighborhood .
2 . Ron Ascher , 293 Terrace Place - lives across the
street diagonally. He stated the new fence will be
much better than the old fence and he had no problem
with the proposed height .
3 . Bob Tipsword , 985 Plum Grove Circle - lives next
door on the west side of the petitioners . The existing
posts are 4-1 /2 feet and he does not object to the
proposed fence . His driveway is alongside the fence
and he has no problem with the line-of-sight .
Note : Mr . Goldspiel said he measured the existing
fence posts to be 4 feet .
Ch. Heinrich commented that the compromise is reasonable .
The neighbor most affected by the line-of-sight has said
he does not object . The scalloped , open picket fence is
more attractive than a board-on-board .
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Comments from Commissioners :
1 . Com. Paul - Proposed fence is an improvement over the
existing fence . The height would not be detrimental .
He had no objections . The 5 foot distance from the
sidewalk is close , but the compromise is reasonable .
2 . Com. Fields - No comment . He was not present in April .
3 . Com . Lewandowski - No problem with the modifications .
4 . Com. Kearns - The existing fence is unsightly and the
compromise is acceptable . Would like to see a low
bush planted at the west corner for screening.
5 . Com. Entman - He would prefer the fence to be pulled
back farther from the sidewalk , but as long as the
line-of-sight is acceptable to the Village Engineer
and the neighbors , the proposed fence will not be
detrimental to the neighborhood and is a reasonable
compromise .
Com . Lewandowski made the following motion:
I move we grant the request of the petitioners ,
Howard and Michele Knaiser , 270 Terrace Place ,
as amended on its face , pursuant to Plat of Survey,
Exhibit A, to permit variance of Fence Code , Section
15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential Districts ,
for the purpose of constructing a 4-1/2 foot ,
scalloped open picket fence that would come no 4
closer than 5 feet to the sidewalk along the north
side (Plum Grove Circle) .
Hardship having demonstrated , the proposed fence
would not be detrimental to the public health,
safety and welfare and would not alter the
essential character of the neighborhood .
Com. Kearns seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman, Kearns , Paul ,
Lewandowski and Heinrich
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Fields
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 , 1 abstention.
Findings of Fact . The permit may be issued in 15 days .
Objections to the approval of the petition must be submitted
in writing to Mr . Frank Hruby , Director of Bldg . and Zoning
within the 15 day period.
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May 15 , 1990 - Page Three
B. The Arbors Condominiums - Ground Sign on Dundee Road
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 010 - Residential Districts
Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 070 - Ground Signs
Purpose : Construction of ground sign that would be
within 250 feet of an existing ground sign
Mr . Greg Lambert , Resident/Pres . of the Condo Association,
10 Oak Creek Dr . ; Ms . Pat Zaw, Resident , 3 Oak Creek Dr . and
Jack Metzger , Diamond Outdoor Advertising , 1200 E. Golf Rd. ,
Des Plaines , IL, were sworn in. The Public Hearing Notice
published on April 26 , 1990 , was indicated .
Mr . Lambert stated they want to replace an existing sign
that is attached to a deteriorating fence , with a ground
sign. A variance is required because there is a ground sign
85 feet to the east . The proposed new location would be
approximately 105 feet from the doctor ' s center sign.
Originally a fence surrounded the property. The portion
along Dundee Road has been removed and replaced with
landscaping . The proposed sign will enhance the property.
Photographs of the existing sign and a rendering of the new
sign , were presented . The colors of the new sign will be :
Background - Pilgrim Red
Lettering - Ivory
Inset line - Ivory
Leaf - - - - Medium and Dark Green
The Condo Association Board Members chose the Pilgrim Red
background color . It will not appear as bright as the
rendering . The existing sign is located on the right-of-way
and the new sign will be moved back as indicated on the site
plan. The new sign will be 16 square feet and the Oak Creek
Drive panel will be 6"x 48" . The total height will be about
5-1 /2 feet . The posts will match the background .
Comments from Commissioners :
1 . Com. Paul - The proposed sign is a definite improvement
over the existing. The location is better .
2 . Com. Fields - Commended the Condo Association for the
improvement by removal of the fencing. No objection.
3 . Com. Lewandowski - Agreed it was an improvement .
4 . Com. Kearns - Approved of the new sign. Would its
location, on a berm , cause a line-of-sight problem ,
for entering and exiting the driveway?
Mr . Kuenkler responded , "No , it will be setback and
there will not be a problem.
5 . Com. Entman - It is an improvement . No problems .
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May 15 , 1990 - Page Four
Appearance Commission reviewed the aesthetics of the sign ,
on Thursday , May 10 , 1990 and recommended a variance .
No questions or comments from the audience .
Com. Fields made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Village Board that the
petition of the Arbors Condominium Association for
variance of Sign Code Section 14 . 20 . 010 ,
pertaining to Residential Districts (size) and
Section 14 . 20 . 070 , pertaining to Ground Signs ,
be granted to permit construction of a ground sign
that would be within 250 feet of an existing ground
sign.
Such ground sign to be located at the entrance to the
Arbors Condominium development , to be approximately
105 feet from the next existing ground sign, and to
located off the right-of-way, pursuant to plat of
survey, Exhibit A.
Sign is granted by authority of Sign Code ,
Section 14 . 44 . 010 , Sub-section B.
Com. Kearns seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman , Kearns , Paul , Fields ,
Lewandowski and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
Findings of Fact Attached . Permit may be issued in 15 days .
An ordinance will be prepared and the item will be placed
on the Village Board Consent Agenda on June 4 , 1990 .
The petitioners were advised to attend to answer questions .
B. 1332 Logsdon, Martin Eisenberg
Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020 , pertaining to :
Area , Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations .
Purpose : Construction of an addition at the rear of house
Martin and Joanne Eisenberg were sworn in. The Public
Hearing Notice was read . Mrs . Eisenberg summarized their
reasons for requesting a variance for the purpose of
constructing an addition that would encroach 10 feet into
the required 30 ' rear yard setback :
1 . Their children , ages 13 , 10 and 6 are
growing and the kitchen is too small .
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2 . Without the variance , they would have to seek
a different , and this would cause an economic
hardship .
3 . They have a corner lot and the addition will be in
scale with other additions in the neighborhood .
Mrs . Eisenberg said they have described the proposed addi-
tion to their neighbors and there have been no objections .
A second floor was previously added , and this addition will
match the existing house .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Kearns - Would there be windows on Thompson Blvd .
Mrs . Eisenberg responded there will only be a skylight on
that side . The existing windows face east and they will be
moved out . There are windows on the second floor that
face east toward Thompson Boulevard .
Com. Entman - There is sufficient room on the corner and
he has no objections .
Com . Paul - No objections . There is an existing deck .
The addition will be built in that area and
the deck will be smaller .
Com. Fields - Thompson Blvd . curves and the addition will be
set back far enough , so there is no problem .
Com. Lewandowski - Asked about the neighbor to the south?
Mrs . Eisenberg said this is a rental house , and they do not
know the people . (Notice was sent to the property owner . sb)
Plans should be submitted to the Village for review.
No questions or comments from the audience .
Com. Entman made the following motion:
I move the petition of Michael Eisenberg , 1332 Logsdon,
for variance of Zoning Ordinance , Sec . 17 . 40 . 020 ,
pertaining to Area , Height , Bulk and Placement
Regulations , for the purpose of constructing an
addition at the rear of the house , not to exceed ten
feet ( 10 ' ) into the required rear yard setback , be
granted . The addition to be built in accordance with
and pursuant to plans and specifications approved by
the Village . Addition to match the existing structure ,
constructed with like kind and quality of materials .
Petitioners have demonstrated unique circumstances
and financial hardship.
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The proposed variance will not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood .
Addition to be constructed pursuant to the Village
Engineer ' s Review , dated May 8 , 1990 , which states :
"The proposed addition will not alter the existing
drainage pattern (which is toward the rear . ) " The
petitioner was advised that no alteration to the grade
is allowed within five feet (5 ' ) of any rear or side
lot line .
Com. Kearns seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Lewandowski , Fields , Paul ,
Kearns , Entman and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days .
C. 801 Highland Grove Drive , Joel and Darcie Tapper
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 .040 - Residential Districts
The Public Hearing Notice was read. Joel and Darcie Tapper
were sworn in. Mr . Tapper presented photographs of their
lot and summarized their reasons for requesting a variance
for the purpose of extending an existing 5 foot scalloped
cedar board-on-board fence so that it would be twenty-two
feet (22 ' ) past the building line at the corner of Newtown
Drive and Highland Grove Drive :
1 . There is a school across from their house and
the 25 foot side yard is used by many children.
2 . They have a deck in the rear yard and the existing
fence is very close to one corner of the deck ,
making that area useless .
3 . The traffic is heavy and the fence is needed for
the safety and protection of their children.
The Village Engineer ' s Review , dated May 8 , 1990 , states :
"no obstruction is created for the intersection by the
proposed fence . " Mr . Kuenkler recommended a five feet
(5 ' ) setback from the sidewalk .
Mr . Tapper said they would amend their petition to comply
with Mr . Kuenkler ' s recommended setback five feet (5 ' ) from
the sidewalk . They have spoken with their nearest neighbors
and there have been no objections to the proposed fence .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul - Objected to the projection of the fence from the
East looking West from Pritchett School because it protrudes
farther out than all the other front yards on the block .
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Mr . Tapper responded that it will cost about $1 , 500 to have
the fence moved out . It would not pay if they don' t have
enough room between the deck and the fence for a swing set .
They want enough room in the yard to play ball . They have
landscaped and keep the property in very good condition.
They also have two large Golden Retrievers that need space
to run.
Com. Paul suggested adding two (2) eight foot (8 ' ) sections
and that would give him an additional sixteen feet ( 16 ' )
from the existing location; about nine feet (9 ' ) from the
sidewalk .
Ch. Heinrich agreed with Com. Paul ' s comment and added that
the Village Engineer usually recommends a setback of at
least ten feet ( 10 ' ) . It would be different if the style
was an open picket , but since they are moving an existing
board-on-board fence , it should not be so far out of line .
Mr . Tapper said he understood Com. Paul ' s concern and agreed
to amend his petition sixteen feet ( 16 ' ) from the building
line ; nine feet (9 ' ) from the sidewalk .
Com. Fields - The school is close to the lot and the fence
is necessary to curb the pedestrian traffic . He agrees that
nine feet (9 ' ) from the sidewalk is acceptable .
Com. Lewandowski - Could not support petition as requested. ,
Agreed with the nine foot (9 ' ) setback from the sidewalk .
Com. Kearns - Commented that he would like to see some kind
of landscaping to break up the "wall " effect at the end of
the fence , next to the neighbor ' s to the rear .
Mr . Tapper agreed with this suggestion and would add a low
berm and some bushes .
Com. Entman - Agreed with Com. Fields ' comments about the
additional foot traffic from the school and Com . Kearns '
request for landscaping .
Trustee Mathias asked what part of the next house (fronting
on Newtown Drive) will face the fence?
Mr . Tapper replied it ' s their dining room and living room.
Mr . Kuenkler reminded the Commissioners that the property
line is usually 1 foot from the sidewalk , so if the variance
is for sixteen feet ( 16 ' ) , the fence should be ten feet
( 10 ' ) from the sidewalk .
Ch. Heinrich agreed and the variance would be sixteen feet
( 16 ' ) from the building line . Mr . Tapper also agreed .
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Com. Kearns made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Joel and Darcie Tapper ,
801 Highland Grove Drive , for variance of the Fence
Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential
Districts , for the purpose of constructing a fence
that would extend past the building line at the corner
of Highland Grove Drive and Newtown Drive .
Said fence to be sixteen feet ( 16 ' ) from the building
line along Newtown Drive , which is the south lot line .
Motion is granted on the basis of increased traffic
from Pritchett School , which creates a hardship.
Also , a condition of the variance is the planting of
shrubbery at the southeast end of the fence , to screen
the fence . Plantings should be on petitioner ' s lot .
Said fence will not be detrimental to the public
health, safety and welfare ; and will not alter the
essential character of the neighborhood .
Com. Entman seconded the motion.
Roll, Call Vote : AYE - Lewandowski , Fields , Paul , Entman,
Kearns and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days .
D. 1596 Countryside Drive , Raymond A. Nowakowski
Fence Code, Section 15 . 20 .040 - Residential Districts
The Public Hearing Notice was read . Raymond Nowakowski was
sworn in. He summarized his reasons for requesting a
variance for the purpose of constructing a five foot (5 ' )
wooden fence that would extend past the building line at
the corner of Countryside Drive and Rose Boulevard .
1 . He wants to come out eight feet from the house
go back to meet the existing fence . He requests
a variance of six and one/half feet (6-1/2 ' ) .
2 . The fence is needed to confine their dog .
The Village Engineer ' s Review , dated May 8 . 1990 ,
states : "no obstruction is created for the inter-
section by the proposed fence . " There was a prior
variance (Oct . 20 , 1987) granted to extend the fence
along the rear lot line . Should Arlington Heights
extend Kennicott Avenue . a portion of the fence along
the rear lot line would have to be removed .
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Mr . Nowakowski said he wants to keep the existing fence as
it is and agreed to remove whatever is necessary when and if
Kennicott Avenue does go through.
Mr . Kuenkler confirmed that if Kennicott Avenue is extended ,
the proposed fence would not obstruct the intersection and
only the portion along the rear lot line would have to be
removed .
Mr . Nowakowski said has only one neighbor and he does not
know them.
There is a similar fence across the street that comes out to
the sidewalk , for which a variance was granted.
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul , Com . Fields , Com. Lewandowski , Com. Kearns and
Com. Entman agreed this was a reasonable request and had no
objections to the proposed fence .
There were no questions or comments from the audience .
Ch. Heinrich said the variance would be for seven feet (7 ' ) .
Com. Paul made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Raymond A. Nowakowski ,
L.J 1596 Countryside Drive , for variance of the Fence
Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential
Districts , for the purpose of constructing a five foot
(5 ' ) solid wood fence that would extend seven feet (7 ' )
south of the south property line along Rose Boulevard
at the corner of Countryside Drive .
Hardship having been demonstrated . The proposed fence
would not be detrimental to the public health, safety
and welfare and would not alter the essential character
of the neighborhood .
Condition: Should Kennicott Avenue be extended , the
portion of the existing fence along the west property
line , south of the new fence would have to be removed .
Com. Entman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Lewandowski , Fields , Paul , Kearns
Entman and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Findings of Fact attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days .
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E. 570 Silver Rock Lane , James R. Bray (and Woodson W. Sias)
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 - Residential Districts
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 070 - Ornamental Fences
Two Public Hearing Notices were read (April 25 & 30 , 1990) .
James Bray was sworn in. He explained that when they
purchased the house , they removed the existing five foot
(5 ' ) fence in order to permit equipment to enter when they
built an addition. They now request a variance for the
purpose of constructing a for the following reasons :
1 . For the safety and protection of their daughter .
2 . To confine their dog to the yard
3 . For decorative purposes , they have chosen a
forty-two inch (42" ) two rail beaver tail fence
with chicken wire attached to the inside .
4 . They have been accustomed to the size of the yard
with the original fence and prefer to keep it .
(A fence variance was granted in Sept . of 1988 . )
Mr . Bray said Mr . Sylverne advised him that he should use
chain link fence , not chicken wire , and he agreed to do so .
He presented photographs of the property , with the corner
fences that were constructed too high by the contractor .
Mr . Sylverne explained that after the April 25 , 1990 notice
for a split rail fence that would extend three feet (3 ' )
beyond the building line along Farrington Drive at the
�✓ corner of Silver Rock Lane was published , a Village
inspector observed that the ornamental corner fences in the
front and side yards were over three feet (3 ' ) in height .
Mr . Bray requested that the corner fences be added to the
application and heard at the same time . A second notice was
published on April 30th„ but since the contiguous property
owners were not notified about the decorative corner fences ,
Tom Dempsey, Village Attorney, has directed that this
portion of the request be Tabled until the June ZBA meeting ,
and the contiguous property owners are to be so advised .
Ch. Heinrich asked how high the chain link fence would be?
Mr . Bray replied that it would go from the ground to the
top of the second rail which is about 38/39 inches high.
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul - Since the proposed fence three feet (3 ' ) past
the building line would line up with the neighbor ' s fence ,
he does not object .
Com. Fields - Does not object to the location, but does
object to the materials . Would prefer have only one type .
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Mr . Bray responded that he believes solid fences are
unattractive and they want to be able to see out onto
Farrington Drive . He chose split rail to match the ranch
style house . The chain link would be attached to the
neighbor ' s fence . He plans to have a flower bed in front .
Com. Lewandowski , Com. Kearns and Com. Entman did not object
Comments from the audience :
Mrs . Sheila Konrath, 580 Silver Rock Lane , said that when
the decorative corner split rail fences were installed ,
one was located on her property. Does someone from the
Village come out to measure such fences?
Mr . Bray said when he realized his error , he removed the
section of fence , as shown in the photos .
Mr . Sylverne said the final inspection of this fence has not
been made because the section on the corner is in the right-
of-way, per the Village Engineer ' s Review dated May 8 , 1990 .
Mrs . Konrath is not certain if more of the fence is on her
property , and she is concerned about it blocking her vision
from the driveway .
Mr . Sylverne explained that the Village does not actually
review the measurements , but a line-of-sight study is done .
Ch. Heinrich said that , unless they can find the metal
stake , only a surveyor can determine the actual lot line .
He asked Mr . Sylverne to make an inspection and he asked
Mr . Kuenkler to review the line-of-sight from the driveway.
Com. Entman made the following motion:
I move the petition of James R. Bray & Woodson W. Sias ,
570 Silver Rock Lane , for a variance of Fence Code ,
Section 15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential Districts ,
for the purpose of constructing a 42 inch high, split
rail /chain link fence extending from the southeast
corner of the house to the rear property line , be
granted.
Said fence to be no farther than three feet (3 ' ) beyond
the building set back line on the south side of the
property.
Unique circumstances having been demonstrated , the
proposed fence will not be detrimental to the public
health, safety and welfare , and will not alter the
essential character of the neighborhood .
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Com . Kearns seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Lewandowski , Paul , Kearns ,
�✓ Entman and Heinrich.
NAY - Fields
Motion Passed - 5 to 1 . Findings of Fact attached.
Permit may be issued in 15 days .
Com. Kearns made a motion to Table the petitioner ' s second
request for a variance of Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 070 ,
pertaining to Ornamental Fences until June 19 , 1990 .
Com. Lewandowski seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote was AYE Unanimously.
328 Hill Court West , Lee and Barbara Silver
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 - Residential Districts
The Public Hearing Notice was read . Lee and Barbara Silver
were sworn in. Mr . Silver summarized their reasons for
requesting a variance for the purpose of constructing a five
foot (5 ' ) solid wood fence that would extend eleven feet
( 11 ' ) past the building line along Fox Hill Drive at the
corner of Hill Court West :
1 . The building line is only eight feet (8 ' ) from the
side of the house and they want to increase the
size of the yard .
2 . They have a gas grill on that side of the house ,
if the fence is that close , it would be a hazard
to their child .
3 . The fence would be ten feet ( 10 ' ) from the sidewalk
They have discussed the fence with their neighbors and there
have been no objections .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul - The parkway is wide and the proposed fence is
a good distance from the sidewalk . No problem with request .
Com . Fields - Observed that the sidewalk is within the
property line , so the fence is actually fifteen feet ( 15 ' )
from the property line . No problem with request .
Com . Lewandowski , Com. Kearns and Com. Entman had no
problems with the request .
There were no comments from the audience .
The Village Engineer ' s Review , dated May 8 , 1990 states :
no obstruction is created for the intersection. "
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Com. Fields made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Lee and Barbara Silver
`•/ 328 Hill Court West , for a variance of the Fence Code ,
Section 15 . 20 . 040 , for the purpose of constructing a
five foot (5 ' ) solid wood fence with an arched top ,
that would extend eleven feet ( 11 ' ) past the building
line along Fox Hill Dr . at the corner of Hill Ct . West .
Said fence would be ten feet ( 10 ' ) from the sidewalk .
It would not be detrimental to the public health,
safety and welfare ; and would not alter the essential
character of the neighborhood.
Com. Lewandowski seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman, Kearns , Paul , Fields ,
Lewandowski and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Findings of Fact attached .
Permit may be issued in 15 days .
G. 458 Patton Drive , Constance M. Mitchell
Zoning Ordinance , Section 17 . 40 . 020
Area, Height , Bulk and Placement Regulations
The Public Hearing Notice was read . Constance M. Mitchell
was sworn in. She summarized her reasons for requesting a
variance for the purpose of constructing an addition at the
rear of the house that would extend ten feet ( 10 ' ) into the
required rear yard setback:
1 . Mrs . Mitchell ' s brother has come to live with her .
2 . The house is small and additional living space
is needed in anticipation of Mrs . Mitchell ' s
parents coming to live with her .
3 . The house has no basement , and additional storage
space is needed .
4 . There is no family room.
5 . She has lived in the house for over 26 years and
does not want to move , nor could she afford to
purchase a new house .
6 . The lot is an unusual shape , and only one corner of
the addition requires the ten foot ( 10 ' ) variance .
Mrs . Mitchell has spoken with her nearest neighbors and they
do not object to the variance . There is not yet a house to
the rear , but Lexington' s Windsor Ridge is building there .
Mr . Sylverne said Windsor Ridge homes have required rear
yards of forty feet (40 ' ) . The petitioner ' s rear yard is
thirty feet (30 ' ) . Lexington was notified of the request .
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The addition will match the construction of the existing
house , same siding , roof line , materials , etc . She has not
had plans drawn, because she wanted the variance first .
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul - Drove through the new development and the
proposed addition will be between the houses to be built .
He had no problem and there is obviously a need .
Com. Fields - Observed that the angle of the lot would
require only one corner to be varied the full ten feet ( 10 ' )
Com. Kearns , Com. Lewandowski and Com. Entman did not object
to the variance .
Com. Lewandowski made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Constance M. Mitchell ,
458 Patton Drive , for variance of the Zoning Ordinance ,
Section 17 . 40 . 020 , pertaining to Area , Height , Bulk and
Placement Regulations , for the purpose of constructing
an addition at the rear of the lot that would encroach
into the required thirty foot (30 ' ) rear yard setback
a distance of ten feet ( 10 ' ) .
Said addition to built according to plans and
specifications submitted to and approved by the
Village . Addition to match existing house .
Hardship having been demonstrated , the addition will
not alter the essential characteristics of the
neighborhood.
The Village Engineer ' s drainage study, dated May 8 , 1990 ,
states : "the proposed addition will not alter the existing
drainage pattern" .
Mrs . Mitchell has been notified that no alteration of the
grade is allowed within five feet (5 ' ) of any rear or side
lot line .
Com. Paul seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman, Kearns , Paul , Entman,
Lewandowski and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Findings of Fact attached.
Permit may be issued in 15 days .
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H. 1119 Mill Creek Drive , Norman and Evelyn Friese
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 .040 - Residential Districts
The Public Hearing Notice was read . Norman and Evelyn Friese were
sworn in. Mr . Friese summarized their reasons for requesting a
6 foot (6 ' ) solid cedar privacy fence along the southeast property
line , from the front of the house to the rear property line :
1 . They have had problems with their next door
neighbors to the extent that a law suite has
been filed against them (by the neighbors) .
2 . Mrs . Friese ' s health has been affected . The privacy
fence will help alleviate some stress .
The Friese ' s have submitted a permit for the 6 foot solid wood
fence along the interior property line , and a 12 foot section of
chain link along the rear lot line . No fence along the north-
west property line .
A document signed by the Friese ' s contiguous neighbors was
presented . The following people have no objection to the fence :
1 . Dr . and Mrs . D. Saidel , 1113 Mill Creek Drive
2 . Mr . and Mrs . Julian Sowa , 792 Thornton
3 . Mr . and Mrs . Robert Holcombe , 1084 Crofton
4 . Mr . and Mrs . J . Orloff , 1100 Crofton
�./ Ch. Heinrich varied the usual procedure and asked for comments
from the audience .
Mr . Ed Le Blanc . 1125 Mill Creek Drive (next door neighbor)
asked what problems the petitioners were having and said
they have not spoken to him regarding anything specific .
Mr . Friese responded that the Le Blanes have filed a law suit
against them .
Mr . La Blanc said the law suit involves a pesticide spill
that has affected his property , and caused some problems .
Ch. Heinrich informed both parties that the Zoning Board of
Appeals cannot address any civil issues .
Mr . Le Blanc summarized their reasons for objecting to the
proposed fence :
1 . There is a bedroom window on the side of the house
next to the Frieses . The proposed fence would
deprive the room of light and air .
2 . The Frieses have added a two story addition which
considerably cut down the light and air already.
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3 . There are extensive plantings of flowers along that side
of the house . The fence would cut off from 25 to 30% of
the sunlight .
4 . There are also 6 foot high bushes along the back of the
lot for screening , and they would also be deprived of
light .
5 . The Frieses have no windows on that side of the house
at ground level .
6 . The La Blanes object to 6 foot high fences for the same
reasons that the Village Fence Code prohibits them.
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul : Stated this seems to be a classic example of a
grudge fence .
Mr . Friese responded that they have tried to be good neighbors .
When the Le Blanes constructed an addition several years ago ,
the Frieses permitted a truck and crawler to cross their property
line and their yard was torn up for 6 to 8 weeks .
Mrs . Friese added that the Le Blanes have constantly harassed them
with complaints about such things as not planting certain flowers ,
not being able to use their fireplace , saying that their dog
attracts skunks , etc . These things have caused her a great deal
of stress and have worsened her physical condition.
Ch. Heinrich asked if a six foot (6 ' ) fence would help more than
a five foot (5 ' ) fence?
Mr . Friese answered that the Le Blancs could not look over a
six foot (6 ' ) fence and this would provide more privacy for
his wife .
Mr . Le Blanc commented that the Frieses have been letting their
dog out loose in the yard without a fence for ten ( 10) years .
Com. Paul observed that the Frieses have no windows on the first
floor on that side of the house , so they have more of a problem
when they are in the back yard . He asked if they would consider a
five foot (5 ' ) fence running the length of the house and a six
foot (6 ' ) fence from the rear of the house to the rear lot line?
This would allow light to enter the Le Blanc ' s bedroom window .
The Friese ' s discussed this compromise and agreed to it .
Mr . Le Blanc still objected to the six foot (6 ' ) because it
could be detrimental to the bushes by depriving them of sunlight .
Com. Paul explained that the Zoning Board Commissioners must look
at both sides of the issue and the Frieses can put up a five foot
(5 ' ) fence on the property line , so the compromise is reasonable .
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Com. Fields : Agreed the compromise is reasonable . He has a
similar situation with his property . There is a five foot (5 ' )
fence and he has similar bushes that grow fine .
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Com. Lewandowski : Said he could support the six foot (6 ' ) fence
the full length, as requested .
Com. Kearns : Would support an amended petition for a five foot
(5 ' ) fence from the front to the rear of the house and a six foot
(6 ' ) fence continuing to the rear lot line . The six foot portion
would not be detrimental to the surrounding neighbors .
Com. Entman: Asked about the bushes on the Le Blanes property.
Mrs . Friese said they are deciduous , planted about four feet (4 ' )
apart , and have not filled in the area .
Com. Entman expressed concern about the six foot fence in the
event that if either house is sold , the fence would remain.
Ch. Heinrich said the ZBA has granted variances for similar
fences in the past , usually for similar reasons . Residents
have a right to request the variance . The Zoning Board of Appeals
is not a court of law , but the Commissioners have an obligation
listen to all testimony , and make a determination as to whether
the request is reasonable , and what affect the fence would have on
the surrounding property. Such situations are difficult .
`•/ The petitioners confirmed their decision to amend the petition on
its face to request a six foot (6 ' ) fence to be constructed from
the back of their house to the rear lot line ; and abruptly drop
to five feet (5 ' ) from the rear of the house to the front of the
house . Mrs . Friese asked if the style can also be changed from
board-on-board to dog eared? "YES"
Com. Paul made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Norman and
Evelyn Friese , 1119 Mill Creek Dr . , pursuant to
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 , for construction
of a six foot (6 ' ) fence along the southeast
property line , starting north of the house to
the rear property line .
Hardship having been demonstrated . The proposed
fence will not be detrimental to the public health,
safety and welfare .
Com. Lewandowski seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman. Kearns , Paul , Fields ,
Lewandowski and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Findings of Fact Attached .
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The permit may be issued in 15 days .
Ch. Heinrich informed Mr . and Mrs . Le Blanc of their right to
appeal the ZBA decision to the Village Board of Trustees .
Request must be made in writing to Mr . Frank Hruby , Director
of Building and Zoning , within 15 days .
I . 770 Thompson Blvd . , Hugh H. and Gail Olbur
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 .040 - Residential Districts
The Public Hearing Notice was read . Hugh H. and Gail Olbur ,
the petitioners , were represented by their son and his wife ,
Brett and Luzanne Olbur , who reside in the house .
Brett Olbur summarized their reasons for requesting a variance
to construct a 4 foot arched picket fence that would extend past
the building line a distance of twenty-two feet (22 ' ) :
1 . For the safety and protection of their young
daughter from traffic on Thompson Blvd .
2 . To provide a protected area for their dog .
3 . To keep other dogs from entering the yard .
The lot is most unusual because the side and rear yard of the
house is on a cul-de-sac and the 25 foot building line cuts
through the yard .
The Olburs have informed their neighbors of the proposed
fence and no one has objected.
Mr . Kuenkler ' s Review, dated May 8 , 1990 states there is no
line-of-sight problem.
Comments from Commissioners :
Com. Paul - The proposed fence is the natural way it should be .
Trustee Mathias asked how the house to the rear is situated?
Mr . Olbur responded that the house faces the cul-de-sac and there
are no windows on that side . The neighbor ' s house is angled in
such a way that they would not see the fence unless they were in
their front yard . The fence would not obstruct the driveway .
The fence will be constructed inside the line of existing bushes
and will not be seen from the street . There are no bushes along
the rear lot line .
Com . Fields , Com. Kearns , Com. Entman and Com. Lewandowski had
no questions or objections .
There were no objectors present .
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Com. Fields made the following motion:
I move we grant the petition of Hugh H. and Gail Olbur
as presented by Brett Olbur , their son, for property
located at 770 Thompson Blvd . for variance of the
Fence Code , Section 15 . 20 . 040 , pertaining to Residential
Districts , for the purpose of constructing a wooden fence
that would extend past the building set back line . Said
fence to run along a line continuing from the rear of the
house to the rear property line , as shown on the plat .
Hardship having been demonstrated , the fence will not be
detrimental to the public health , safety and welfare .
Said fence will not alter , but will be consistent with
the character of the neighborhood .
Com. Kearns seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Entman, Kearns , Paul , Fields ,
Lewandowski and Heinrich
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
VI . ANNOUNCEMENTS
Com. Paul noted that the Johnson' s garage on Dundee Parkway is
nearing completion. He asked Mr . Sylverne if it has had a final
inspection. The garage does not have the required gutters and
berm has not been put in.
Mr . Sylverne responded that he is watching the construction and
will make the final inspection personally.
VII . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Kearns made a motion to adjourn.
Com. Fields seconded the motion.
Ch. Heinrich adjourned the meeting at 10 : 35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted ,
Shirley Bates ,
Recording Secretary
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