2018-12-05 - Planning and Zoning Commission - Minutes12/5/2018
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD,
BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2018
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:31 PM by Chairman Frank Cesario
Public Hearings/Items For Consideration
1. Consider Approval of a Variation for a Recreational Vehicle (Trailer) at 2 Cloverdale
Court (Trustee Ottenheimer) (Staff Contact: Chris Stilling)
Kristen Weidner, 2 Cloverdale Court, was present and sworn in.
Mrs. Weidner explained that they have lived in Buffalo Grove for six (6) years. They
chose Buffalo Grove because it is close to their family and employers. When they moved
in, they had the twenty-seven (27) foot long camper/trailer. They has called several towns
and inquired about the recreational vehicle (RV) requirements. When they called Buffalo
Grove, they were told that the camper/trailer was within the limitations. The camper trailer
is ten (10) foot tall with the air conditioner extending an additional two (2) inches above
the top. The driveway is the only place they can put the camper. They do not have room
on the sides of their property. They have not had any complaints in the six (6) years they
have lived here. The camper is not close to the sidewalk. They camp several times during
the year. They currently do not have a place to store the camper off-site in the winter.
They are requesting to be allowed to keep the camper in their driveway. She has
obtained signatures from her neighbors indicating they do not have any issues with the
camper. Her past neighbor never had any line of sight issues. The camper does not block
the sidewalk. She submitted the document with the signatures as an exhibit.
Com. Khan asked Mrs. Weidner if she has read the Ordinance concerning recreational
vehicles (RV’s). Mrs. Weidner responded that she has read Ordinance that was in place
when she moved in and the new Ordinance. Com. Khan stated that the new Ordinance
was approved in February, 2018. Mrs. Weidner stated that when she originally called the
Village, height was not an issue. The air conditioner unit only adds two (2) inches to the
height. Com. Khan advised that since the Ordinance passed, the Village had given time
for compliance. RV’s can be kept in the Village from May 15th to September 30th each
year. Mrs. Weidner responded that they started using the camper in May and were still
using the camper at the end of September. Then they found out they had the option to
appeal. Com. Khan advised that the Petitioner has four (4) choices to comply with the
Ordinance: 1) They can store the camper in their backyard; 2) They can store the camper
in their side yard; 3) They can store the camper off-site; or 4) They can modify their
garage to fit the camper. The house is a ranch so there is nothing structural above the
garage. As a neighbor, he would not make a complaint because that can cause bad
feelings. The Village has received numerous complaints about RV’s. Mrs. Weidner
responded that they use their camper. It moves. It is not rusted and does not look bad.
They make their property as presentable as possible. She would complain if she saw an
RV that was unkempt or being used for storage. Com. Khan stated that the Petitioner can
choose one of the options he noted. This request is asking for four (4) variations to allow
the camper to remain on the driveway. Mrs. Weidner explained that they do not block the
sidewalk. Com. Khan responded that the driveway apron is Village property and should
not be used for parking. The apron is used for egress to and from private property.
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Ch. Cesario believes that the Petitioner had raise two (2) good points; unkempt vehicles
and regulations in other towns. He reviewed the criteria set that would allow the Planning
& Zoning Commission (PZC) to grant a variation.
Com. Moodhe asked if the Petitioner had tried to park the camper on the side of the
house. Mrs. Weidner responded they have not because of the fence and the water meter
location. They did not believe there would be enough room. Com. Moodhe asked what
other options the Petitioner has. Mrs. Weidner responded none. She asked if they could
keep the camper on the driveway through September 30th next year so they can figure
out a place to store the camper. Com. Moodhe asked the Petitioner if they camp in the
same places. Mrs. Weidner responded no, they have been camping for over thirty (30)
and camp all over the place. Com. Moodhe asked how much of the RV is shielded by the
neighbor’s house. Mr. Stilling advised that about half of the RV is shielded. He also
advised that the Petitioner could use landscaping to screen as well. Com. Moodhe stated
the issue of the RV encroaching into the setback would still exist. Mr. S tilling explained
the options available to the PZC. Even if a temporary variation was granted until next
year, a variation is still necessary to allow the height to exceed the permitted height by
approximately two (2) inches. Mrs. Weidner stated that they bought the camper with the
air conditioner unit. Mr. Stilling advised that staff’s concerns are not related to the height.
Com. Moodhe stated that he is not worried about the two (2) inches over the height
allowed.
Com. Lesser stated that he does not see a way to grant the variances without invalidating
the Ordinance. This camper does not meet the criteria. He is amenable to granting a
temporary variation until the end of next season. He also does not see the two (2) inch
height overage as an issue. He believes the Petitioner is asking the PZC to void the
Ordinance. He understands that the current neighbors have not complained, but what if
new neighbors move in. Mrs. Weidner stated she understands.
Ch. Cesario asked staff about the time frame of enforcement. Mr. Stilling explained that
RV’s would be permitted May 15th through September 30th. The Petitioner is asking for
relief for six (6) months. A variation for height would be required to allow the camper May
15th through September 30th. Ch. Cesario asked the Petitioner if she wants to amend her
Petition to a temporary variation through September 30, 2019. The camper would then
need to be stored off-site until May 15th each subsequent year.
Mr. Charles Weidner, was present and sworn in. Mr. Weidner stated that they have no
room to put the camper on either side of their home or in the rear yard. He would be fine
with adding bushes to screen the RV. They have nowhere else to put the camper except
for off-site or they would have to build a bigger garage. Ch. Cesario advised that there
are choices available, even though the Petitioner may not like the choices. Mr. Weidner
stated that they would like to keep the camper year round. If they cannot, they would at
least want May 15th through September 30th. The height is only over by two (2) inches.
Ch. Cesario is not concerned with the height. He would be willing to grant the requests if
it were only due to the height, but there are three (3) other variations needed as well.
Com. Cohn does not have an issue with the height and advised that the Petitioner is
getting nine (9) months to figure out what to do.
Com. Khan agrees with a temporary variation until next year with no additional
extensions.
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Com. Moodhe asked staff if the Petitioner has the ability to re-apply next year. Mr. Stilling
advised that the Petitioner would not be able to apply next year, they would have
exhausted their options.
Mrs. Weidner amended the Petition to request a temporary variation until next year. Mr.
Weidner asked if they put in screening could they keep the RV in the driveway year
round. Ch. Cesario explained that screening is different than keeping an RV in front of the
house. Mr. Weidner stated they cannot fit the camper on the side of their house. Ch.
Cesario explained that a variation cannot be granted without exceptional circumstances.
Com. Lesser added that the Ordinance allows side yard storage but that it must meet the
side yard setback requirements. Mr. Weidner responded that they have no room on the
side or in the back. Keeping the RV on the driveway with screening would be easier.
Mrs. Weidner asked for the temporary variation through September 30, 2019.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no questions or comments from the audience.
Ch. Cesario entered the letter with signatures as Exhibit 1 and the Staff Report dated
December 5, 2018 as Exhibit 2.
The public hearing was closed at 8:16 PM.
Moved by Com. Khan, seconded by Com. Moodhe, to grant a temporary variation to
allow the camper/trailer to remain until September 30, 2019.
Com. Cohn believes this is a reasonable compromise. It gives the homeowner time to
figure things out. He believes this is a fair solution.
Com. Khan also believes this is a good compromise. He had a dilemma with the Petition
as originally requested. His concerns were cleared by the Petitioner.
Roll Call Vote
AYE - Cohn, Khan, Moodhe, Lesser, Ch. Cesario
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - None
Moved by Com. Khan, seconded by Com. Cohn, to grant the variation to allow the RV to
exceed the height limitation by approximately two (2) inches.
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Roll Call Vote
AYE - Cohn, Khan, Moodhe, Lesser, Ch. Cesario
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - None
RESULT: APPROVED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Zill Khan, Commissioner
SECONDER: Adam Moodhe, Commissioner
AYES: Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Khan, Lesser
ABSENT: Stephen Goldspiel, Mitchell Weinstein, Amy Au
Regular Meeting
Other Matters for Discussion
1. Consider Approval of the Final Plat of Subdivision for Link Crossing (Trustee
Stein) (Staff Contact: Chris Stilling)
James Truesdell and Mr. Jon Isherwood, K. Hovnanian Homes, were present. He
explained that he is before the Planning & Zoning Commission (PZC) to request
Final Plat approval for Link Crossing. He reviewed the plan that was proposed to
the PZC and the plan that was ultimately approved by the Village Board. This is
just a function of confirming that the final site plan is in substantial conformance
to the approved plan. Page 75 of the packet contains the proposed Construction
Traffic Plan. The Lake County Department of Transportation (LDOT) has
approved the proposed Construction Traffic Plan. They would like to use
Brandywyn Lane for some of the construction traffic. Some construction traffic
would also need to use Meridian Way until Olive Hill is complete, then they would
defer the traffic use on Meridian Way. They will provide signage to guide
construction traffic. The School District has agreed to the proposed Construction
Traffic Plan and they agree not to use Brandywyn Lane for construction traffic
during school drop off/pick up times.
Ch. Cesario asked staff to explain their recommendation in the Staff Report
dated December 5, 2018. Mr. Stilling explained that staff feels that the final site
plan is in substantial conformance with the approved plan, subject to the
conditions set forth in the report. The Village does not want construction traffic on
Brandywyn Lane east of Meridian Way.
Mr. Truesdell believes that not allowing construction traffic to use Brandywyn
Lane will make things difficult. It will cause congestion on Brandywyn Lane west
of Meridian Way. Mr. Isherwood added that the proposed plan is the safest. They
are considerate of the school, especially during drop off and pick up times. They
can post signs with the No-Traffic hours that can be enforced. Most worker traffic
would fall outside of the school drop off/pick up times. LDOT did grant a right
in/right out access on Buffalo Grove Road. Things will be difficult with the
proposed construction traffic limitation.
Com. Khan stated that besides the traffic condition, staff has recommended three
(3) additional conditions. Mr. Truesdell is aware and concurs with the three (3)
additional conditions.
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Com. Lesser advised that he has read the draft Declaration of Covenants,
Conditions and Restrictions (CCR’s) for the Master Association, single family
homes and the townhomes that would allow one (1) owner to own up to three (3)
properties within Link Crossing. He recalled discussion at the PZC hearings
about limits on rental properties. Mr. Truesdell explained that a single owner
could not own more than three (3) and the CCR’s limit the number of rental units
in the development to fifteen (15) percent of the total number of units. Mr. Stilling
advised that staff does not have any concerns with tho se numbers. Com. Lesser
asked about enforcement of the rental restriction. Mr. Stilling responded that it
would be contained in the CCR’s and the Village can enforce through the
Residential Rental Property Program. The CCR’s also run with the land. Com.
Lesser added that he thought a total prohibition on rental within the development
was appropriate.
Com. Moodhe asked about the timeframe of the construction. Mr. Truesdell
explained that they will be looking to start construction in the spring. It will take
approximately two (2) years to complete. Com. Moodhe asked about limiting the
construction traffics use of Brandywyn Lane to June through August, when
school is not in session. Mr. Stilling advised that staff believes that there is more
than enough access on Brandywyn Lane west of Meridian Way. The
development will be constructed in three (3) phases, this is phase one (1). Staff
can re-review for phase two (2) and phase (3), if needed.
Com. Cohn asked what would happen if it is discovered that more than f ifteen
(15) percent of the units are being used as rentals. Mr. Raysa advised that the
last owner requesting to use a unit as a rental will be told no. Com. Cohn asked if
enforcement can be taken against the Homeowners Association (HOA) for
allowing more than fifteen (15) percent. Mr. Raysa responded yes. Com. Cohn
asked who manages the use as rentals. Mr. Stilling advised the HOA would
manage. Com. Cohn asked how the HOA would manage that. Mr. Truesdell
explained that the CCR’s were written to comply with the Annexation Agreement.
Com. Cohn asked how the fifteen (15) percent limitation was determined. Mr.
Truesdell responded that the percentage was determined at the Village Board
level.
Com. Lesser asked Mr. Raysa about entity ownership of properties and
enforcement. Mr. Stilling responded to Com. Lesser’s questions. Mr. Truesdell
explained that he has not seen any issues previously with rental restrictions in
other communities, especially at the proposed pricing for this development. Com.
Lesser asked Mr. Truesdell to describe the work entailed in phase one (1).
Com. Moodhe believes that any rental issues would be further down the road.
The HOA will need to audit the rentals and enforce the CCR’s. He does not see
any issues in the near future. Com. Lesser disagreed.
Com. Khan asked if the fifteen (15) percent included all the units. Mr. Truesdell
explained that fifteen (15) percent of the townhomes could be rentals and fifteen
(15) percent of the single family homes could be rentals. Com. Khan asked if the
HOA has been formed yet. Mr. Truesdell responded that the HOA will be formed
after the Plat is recorded and eighty-five (85) percent of the project is complete.
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Com. Khan advised that changes to CCR’s are very difficult and needs two-thirds
(2/3) of the owners to meet and all must agree to change.
Ch. Cesario stated that the Final Plat substantially conforms with the approved
plans. He is comfortable that it meets what was approved by the Village Board.
His only concern is in regards to the construction traffic.
Com. Cohn agrees that the Plat substantially conforms to the Village Board
approval, not the PZC’s recommendation. He would like the PZC to review the
proposed CCR’s and provide comment on them prior to final approval. Mr. Stilling
advised that is not within the purview of the PZC. The PZC can share concerns
with staff. Com. Cohn asked if the CCR’s will change before final review and
approval. Mr. Truesdell explained that there may be a few minor corrections. Mr.
Stilling advised that the Village’s new legal counsel will review the CCR’s before
final approval.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There
were no questions or comments from the audience.
Ch. Cesario entered the Staff Report dated December 5, 2018 as Exhibit 1.
Moved by Com. Khan, seconded by Com. Moodhe, to recommend to the Village
Board approval of the Final Plat of Subdivision for Link Crossing, subject to the
conditions listed in the Staff Report dated December 5, 2018.
Com. Moodhe likes the right in/right out on Buffalo Grove Road and agrees with
staff’s recommendation of the construction traffic.
Ch. Cesario feels that the Final Plat, as presented, is consistent with the
approved plans.
RESULT: RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE [UNANIMOUS]
Next: 1/22/2019 7:30 PM
MOVER: Zill Khan, Commissioner
SECONDER: Adam Moodhe, Commissioner
AYES: Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Khan, Lesser
ABSENT: Stephen Goldspiel, Mitchell Weinstein, Amy Au
Approval of Minutes
1. Planning and Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting - Nov 7, 2018 7:30 PM
Moved by Com. Khan, seconded by Com. Moodhe, to approve the minutes of the
November 7, 2018 regular Planning & Zoning Commission meeting as submitted.
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RESULT: ACCEPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Zill Khan, Commissioner
SECONDER: Adam Moodhe, Commissioner
AYES: Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Khan, Lesser
ABSENT: Stephen Goldspiel, Mitchell Weinstein, Amy Au
Chairman's Report
Ch. Cesario recognized Village Attorney, Bill Raysa, for his years of service to the Village and the
Planning & Zoning Commission. Mr. Raysa will be missed.
Ch. Cesario advised that Chicago Executive Airport is exploring options to expand one of it's
runways. Mr. Stilling will keep the Planning & Zoning Commission informed.
Committee and Liaison Reports
There were no Planning & Zoning Comm ission items presented at the December 3, 2018 Village
Board meeting.
Staff Report/Future Agenda Schedule
Mr. Stilling advised that the December 17, 2018 Village Board meeting has been canceled. There
will be a petition for an RV variation and a petition f or a driveway variation at the December 19,
2018 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting. He advised that there are some large projects that
will be coming before the PZC in the near future. He expressed his pleasure working with Mr.
Raysa for the last six (6) years.
Public Comments and Questions
None.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:12 PM
Chris Stilling
APPROVED BY ME THIS 5th DAY OF December , 2018