2017-08-02 - Planning and Zoning Commission - Minutes08/2/2017
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD,
BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 2, 2017
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by Commissioner Eric Smith
Public Hearings/Items For Consideration
1. Consider a Fence Variation for the Property at 1239 Devonshire Road (Trustee Stein)
(Staff Contact: Brian Sheehan)
Mr. Xiaofei Ma, 1239 Devonshire Road, was present and sworn in.
Mr. Ma explained that he is requesting to construct a six (6) foot fence in his backyard.
Figure 1 on Page 6 of the packet shows his existing neighbor’s fences in red and his
proposed fence in blue. Figures 2 and 3 on Page 7 of the packet are photographs of his
neighbor’s existing fences. He has two daughters ages nine and one and they need
space to play. His backyard opens to the street. He wants a cedar fence, similar to the
fence in Figure 2, for safety purposes. The proposed fence will not have an impact on his
neighbors.
Com. Cesario asked if the neighbor’s fences are five (5) foot in height. Mr. Ma responded
yes. Com. Cesario asked Mr. Ma why he would not want to match his neighbor’s fences
with a five (5) foot high fence. Mr. Ma said he does not mind a five (5) foot high fence.
Com. Cesario would be supportive if the fence height was five (5) feet.
Ch. Smith entered the Staff Report as Exhibit 1.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no questions or comments from the audience.
The public hearing was closed at 7:38 PM.
Moved by Com. Weinstein, seconded by Com. Cesario, to approve the fence variation
subject to the condition that the fence be reduced to be no more than five (5) feet in
height per the style as depicted in the packet.
RESULT: APPROVED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Mitchell Weinstein, Commissioner
SECONDER: Frank Cesario, Commissioner
AYES: Smith, Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Goldspiel, Khan, Lesser, Weinstein
ABSENT: Amy Au
2. Consider a Special Use for a Child Day Care Home at 200 Timber Hill Drive (Trustee
Ottenheimer) (Staff Contact: Brian Sheehan)
Mr. Roman Furman and Ms. Marina Furman, 200 Timber Hill Road, were present and
sworn in.
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Mr. Furman explained that his mother, Ms. Furman, is the primary resident at 200 Timber
Hill Road. They are requesting approval to operate a day care. The hours of operation
would be 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM Monday through Friday. The children would range in age
from 18 months to five years old. They would have up to eight children. They previously
operated a home day care in Wheeling. They are currently in the process of obtaining
their DCFS approval.
Com. Goldspiel asked if Ms. Furman would have two assistants and inquired abou t
where they would park their cars. Mr. Furman advised that currently there is one
assistant, who parks in the driveway. Com. Goldspiel asked if there will be enough room
on the driveway to accommodate the drop off and pick up of the children. Mr. Furman
replied that the driveway is two cars wide and two cars long. Com. Goldspiel asked Mr.
Furman if both assistants park on the driveway if there would still be room for drop off
and pick up. Mr. Furman responded yes.
Com. Moodhe likes the Plans and Policy that were provided. He asked about the day
care in Wheeling. Mr. Furman advised that they previously operated a home day care in
Wheeling before moving to Buffalo Grove. Com. Moodhe asked where they are in the
DCFS approval process. Mr. Furman stated that they are almost done. They need DCFS
to come back out for a final visit.
Com. Cesario believes that having up to eight children there will be some conflicts and
asked if they would have the parents follow the Pick Up/Drop-Off Policy. Mr. Furman
replied that the parents have already been told about the Policy and there have been no
problems. Com. Cesario asked staff about the two year renewal process.
Com. Weinstein asked if the Plans and Policy were used in Wheeling. Mr. Furman replied
yes, they are required by DCFS.
Ch. Smith entered the Staff Report as Exhibit 1.
Rosemary Zimmer, 893 Plum Grove Circle, is concerned that the home is not being used
as a residence as opposed to a commercial use. She does not want to see a precedent
set.
Beth Messina, 899 Plum Grove Circle, is also concerned. She is a registered nurse and
she is concerned about the number of children to caregiver ratio. She also agrees with
Ms. Zimmer’s concerns about the Petitioner not living in the house.
Mark Morris, 203 Timber Hill Road, advised that the day care has been operating for five
to six months. He is concerned with the parking situation with the assistant’s car parked
on the driveway. Timber Hill is a narrow road. Backing cars out of the driveway can be
tricky, especially in winter with snow accumulation. He asked about off-street parking for
the staff.
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Com. Goldspiel asked if someone is actually living in the home. Mr. Furman advised that
his mother, Marina is living at the home. The day care is currently run by his mother and
one assistant. They are planning to hire a second assistant. He addressed the questions
on parking and said there is a two car garage and the assistant can park in the garage.
Ch. Smith asked how long Ms. Furman has been living at the house. Mr. Furman replied
six months.
Com. Cesario asked Mr. Furman if he lives at the house too. He said part-time, but his
mother lives there full time. Com. Cesario asked Mr. Furman to walk through the
operations of the day care. Mr. Furman said they have three children now until DFCS
grants approval. Com. Cesario confirmed with Mr. Furman that the staff cars could be
parking in the garage. Mr. Furman acknowledged that the road is narrow and he
understands the concern with parking. Their clients will only park in the dri veway when
dropping off and picking up children.
Com. Moodhe asked about the model style of the home and confirmed with Mr. Furman
that there is a two car attached garage and four parking spaces on the driveway. He
asked if the assistants could park in the driveway and still allow room for parents
dropping off and picking up. Mr. Furman added that with the one assistant they have
now, there is room for three additional cars on the driveway. Com. Moodhe discussed
different parking options and also discussed the number of children.
Com. Cohn asked if two parents are dropping off or picking up at the same, how long are
they parked on the driveway for. Mr. Furman replied five minutes at the most. Com. Cohn
questioned how that would be achieved with eight children. Mr. Furman explained that
the parents have set time to drop off their children and will not come at the same time.
Pick up is the same. Com. Cohn asked if they could arrange it so that no more than two
parents are scheduled at the same time. Mr. Furma n said that is why they have the
policy.
Com. Weinstein asked if the assistants are required for eight children. Mr. Furman replied
yes. Mr. Sheehan stated that DCFS has a formula based on the number and age of the
children. Com. Weinstein asked if there is any on street parking restrictions on Timber Hill
Road. Mr. Furman advised there are none. Com. Weinstein is comfortable with the
request and advised that the parking situation can be reviewed when the Special Use is
up for renewal. He advised the Petitioner’s that they will need to be mindful of their
neighbors.
Ch. Smith is satisfied with the parking but he is not sure about the ownership and living
situation at the residence. Mr. Furman said that his mother is a new resident and resides
at the house full time. Ch. Smith asked how many cars are owned. Mr. Furman said there
is one car and it is kept in the garage.
Ch. Smith asked Ms. Zimmer why she does not believe anyone resides at the home. Ms.
Zimmer stated that she does not see any activity on the weekends and most of the time
there are no lights on in the house at night. It makes her feel uncomfortable.
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Com. Lesser asked if the Petitioner’s driver’s license lists 200 Timber Hill Road as the
permanent address. Mr. Furman said he resides in Arlingto n Heights but his mother’s
license lists 200 Timber Hill Road as her address.
Mr. Raysa asked Ms. Furman several questions about the status of residence at the
property. Mr. Furman translated the questions to his mother from English to Russian and
then interpreted her responses from Russian to English. Mr. Raysa advised that Mr.
Furman cannot be listed on the DCFS license since he is not a full time resident at the
home.
Com. Khan asked Mr. Furman about the language that his mother speaks. Mr. Furman
advised that it is Russian. Com. Khan asked if the clients are limited to Russian-speaking
families. Mr. Furman replied that all the children are from Russian-speaking families.
Com. Khan is concerned that if there is an emergency Ms. Furman would not be able to
communicate with emergency responders. Mr. Furman stated that their assistant is fluent
in both English and Russian and the assistant is always there. Plus, he does not live that
far.
Com. Cesario asked staff about DCFS requirements He also stated that someone has to
be able to communicate at all times.
Ch. Smith asked staff about determining if someone resides in a residence full time. Mr.
Sheehan stated that residency is verified through the driver’s license and water bills. Ch.
Smith confirmed with Mr. Sheehan that if it determined that Ms. Furman is not living there
full time the license can be pulled.
Com. Moodhe is concerned that there may be a safety issue and that there could be a
gap in communication in the event of an emergency. He is also concerned about the
status of the ownership of the property. The recorded deed lists Roman Furman as the
sole owner. Mr. Furman advised that in May 2017 the title was changed to add Marina
Furman. He provided a copy. Mr. Raysa reviewed the submitted deed and advised that it
was recorded and included the Buffalo Grove Transfer Stamp.
Com. Cesario asked Mr. Furman if he is aware of the ten conditions recommended by
staff. Mr. Furman is aware of the conditions.
Com. Goldspiel asked Mr. Raysa if the proof of ownership is now adequate. Mr. Raysa
responded yes.
Mr. Stilling added that the new water meters can track water usage and the Village can
monitor usage on the weekends.
Com. Khan asked Mr. Raysa who is listed on the new deed. Mr. Raysa advised there are
four, Roman Furman and wife and Marina Furman and her husband.
Ms. Zimmer asked if there are more people living at the house. Mr. Raysa advised that a
deed does say who lives at a property, just who owns it.
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Com. Cesario asked where the others reside. Mr. Furman stated that he and his wife live
in Arlington Heights and his mother lives at 200 Timber Hill Road. His father resides
elsewhere.
Ch. Smith entered the deed as Exhibit 2.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no additional questions or comments from the audience.
The public hearing was closed at 8:22 PM.
Moved by Com. Weinstein, seconded by Com. Khan, to recommend to the Village Board
approval of a Special Use Ordinance for a Child Day Care Home for up to eight (8)
children, subject to the following conditions:
1. Petitioner shall comply with the standards set forth in Section 17.12.141, Section
17.28.040 and Section 17.28.060 of the Village Zoning Ordinance.
2. The special use shall be in effect for a period of two (2) years from the date of this
Ordinance. The Petitioner is required to apply to the Village for re-authorization of the
special use pursuant to Section 17.28.060.C of the Village Zoning Ordinance.
3. The petitioner shall obtain a DCFS license. A copy of the DCFS license shall be provided
to the Village prior to the issuance of a business license.
4. The special use shall be automatically revoked if the Petitioner fails, for any reason, to
have a valid license issued by the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services (IL
DCFS).
5. The Petitioner shall obtain a Village business license prior to operation of the child day
care home.
6. The special use does not authorize any use in violation of any covenants running with the
Property.
7. No person who has been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor involving violence
against a person shall be permitted to reside in the day care home at any time, on a
temporary or permanent basis, or otherwise be allowed to be present in the day care
home at any time when children are present. The petitioner must agree to permit the
Village of Buffalo Grove to conduct, or cause to be conducted, a criminal background
check of every person residing in the day care home.
8. Petitioner shall maintain the Property in full compliance with Village property maintenance
standards at all times, as determined by the Village in its sole discretion.
9. This special use is granted to Roman Furman and Marina Furman jointly. Said special
use does not run with the Property and is not granted to any business entity. Said special
use is not transferable to another person or entity, and may not be used by any other
person or entity.
10. Prior to the issuance of the Village business license, the petitioner shall install a self -
closing and latching gate in a manner acceptable to the Village.
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Com. Cohn is still concerned about safety issues and asked if requiring someone that
speaks English should be included in the motion.
Com. Cesario agrees and recommended that it be worded as follows:
11. At least one staff member must be present at all times during the hours of operation at
the Child Care Home who is able to effectively communicate with emergency personnel
in the event of an emergency.
Moved by Com. Cohn, seconded by Com. Lesser, to amend the motion to include an 11th
condition as previously stated.
Com. Khan is troubled by the lack of the understanding of the English language by
Marina Furman. He is not comfortable and will not be in favor of recommending approval.
Com. Weinstein is opposed to the 11th condition requiring the use of English. That
decision should be left to the families.
Com. Cesario agrees with Com. Weinstein but wants to ensure the safety of the
customers using the business. He wants someone to be able to call for help, if needed.
Com. Moodhe asked if DCFS requires someone to be competent in communicating.
Com. Lesser is supportive of the amendment to the motion. If the Special Use was not
required, then it would be up to the customer. But the Village is involved and safety is a
concern.
Com. Cohn stated that the Village is already committed and public safety is involved.
RESULT: AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION
MOVER: Matthew Cohn, Commissioner
SECONDER: Scott Lesser, Commissioner
AYES: Cesario, Cohn, Goldspiel, Khan, Lesser, Moodhe
NAYES: Weinstein, Smith
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RESULT: RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE [6 TO 2]
Next: 8/21/2017 7:30 PM
MOVER: Mitchell Weinstein, Commissioner
SECONDER: Zill Khan, Commissioner
AYES: Smith, Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Lesser, Weinstein
NAYS: Stephen Goldspiel, Zill Khan
ABSENT: Amy Au
3. Consider a Special Use and Variation for Aptakisic School at 1231 Weiland Road
(Trustee Ottenheimer) (Staff Contact: Chris Stilling)
Amy Fuller and Shawn Benson, Wight & Company, 2500 N. Frontage Road, Darien,
Illinois and Eric Russell, KLOA, 9575 W. Higgins Road, Rosemont, Illinois were present
and sworn in.
Ms. Fuller explained that Aptakisic-Tripp School District 102 (District 102) is proposing an
addition, along with other improvements, to the existing Aptakisic School located at 1231
Weiland Road. The school property is currently zoned RE and elementary schools are a
special use. As a result of the changes, a special use is required. Furthermore, to
accommodate the existing school, a variation for a side yard setback reduction is also
required. She reviewed the current staffing level along with the anticipated staffing level
once the grade reorganization is completed. She provided an overview of the proposed
addition and added that when the District offices are off-site, the space will be remodeled
into additional classroom space.
Mr. Benson reviewed the existing site plan, existing parking, existing entrances and
existing drop-off and pick-up operations. He then reviewed the proposed site plan. The
parking lot would be expanded to the south and to the east. The number of parking
spaces would be reduced to 92. He advised that there are two site plan options. He
reviewed the new parent drop-off and pick-up operations and bus plan. These would be
similar to the existing operations. Option 2 would move the traffic signal from the north to
the south to align with the parking lot used for overflow parking located across the street.
They have had two meetings with the DOT and it was their suggestions to move the
traffic signal. They have completed a detailed traffic study and the study found both
Options viable.
Com. Lesser is familiar with the site and is not concerned with the reduced setback to the
north. He is concerned with the significant reduction of parking spaces and the drop-off
and pick-up routing. The parking would go from 142 spaces to 92 spaces with
approximately 90 staff members. Mr. Benson responded that the study estimated 87
future staff members. There are currently 77. Com. Lesser believes that giv en normal
activities at the school and adding an additional grade level, parking demand will
increase. Ms. Fuller stated that Aptakisic-Tripp has an agreement with the Park District to
use the parking lot located across Weiland Road for overflow parking.
Ms. Stacey Bachar, Assistant Superintendent for Business Services, Aptakisic -Tripp
School District 12, was present and sworn in. Ms. Bachar advised that most events that
generate a lot of traffic are after school hours. There is usually only a smaller number of
staff at these events. Com. Lesser asked about the number spaces typically needed for
events after school. Ms. Bachar believes its between 40 and 50.She also discussed the
use of Police to assist with traffic when large events are held. Com. Lesser asked if any
of the parking spaces would be lost in the winter for snow storage. Ms. Bachar advised
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that snow is not collected in parking spaces at this building. Com. Lesser is concerned
with teacher parking and drop-off and pick-up conflicts. Ms. Bachar stated that the
mornings are more progressive and staggered. After school staff will most likely not get to
leave until after pick-up operations are complete.
Com. Moodhe is concerned about the proposed right in/right out since most people are
coming from Aptakisic Road. He asked where they would be able to turn around. Mr.
Benson clarified that it will be a right/left in with a right -out only. Com. Moodhe asked for
a traffic plan to eliminate traffic cutting through the neighborhood. Ms. Bachar stated that
85-90% of students arrive on the buses in the morning with less in the afternoon due to
student after school activities. Com. Moodhe is concerned about the parking and asked if
any consideration had been given to staggering conferences. Ms. Bachar advised that
nothing has been determined yet. Com. Moodhe asked where the District Office is being
relocated to. Ms. Bachar replied that a contract is current under attorney review but has
not been accepted yet.
Com. Goldspiel asked about the parking utilizing the lot across the street and how it lines
up with the entrance/exit. Ms. Bachar said it would line up with the entrance/exit and that
is why they would want to relocate the traffic signal, which would include a crosswalk at
the light.
Com. Weinstein noted a correction to the Staff Report under Zoning History.
Mr. Stilling advised the Traffic Study was just recently received.
Ch. Smith noted that the Traffic Study is entered as Exhibit 1.
Ms. Bachar stated that a final traffic study will be conducted once school is in session.
Ch. Smith entered the Staff Report as Exhibit 2.
Com. Moodhe asked staff if the Village has a preference for either Option 1 or Option 2.
Mr. Stilling replied that overall staff prefers Option 2 but there is some information that
has not been yet. Overall, it is an improvement regardless. Com. Moodhe asked more
questions about the proposed parent drop-off and pick-up plan as well as the morning
and afternoon bus plan. Mr. Stilling added that relocation of the traffic light would pr ovide
a crosswalk for access to the lot across the street.
John Koriath, 842 Dunhill Drive, is concerned with the overflowing parking and the
reduction of the number of parking spaces. She is also concerned about the safety of
crossing the road. Daytime visitors have to cross Weiland Road. She does support the
new drop-off and pick-up plan.
Ms. Bachar advised that the increase in staff would occur at the same time as the
increase in student enrollment, which will not happen for a couple of years.
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There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no additional questions or comments from the audience. The public hearing was closed
at 9:08 PM.
Moved by Com. Weinstein, seconded by Com. Khan, to recommend to the Village Board
approval of the preliminary plan approval and a special use for an elementary school with
the following variation: A variation to Section 17.40 of the Village of Buffalo Grove Zoning
Ordinance (Table of Area, Height, Bulk and Placement Regulations) to allow for a side
yard setback reduction for an existing building, subject to the following conditions:
1. The proposed development shall substantially conform to the plans attached as part of
this petition.
2. Final engineering shall be revised in a manner acceptable to the Village Engineer.
3. Submission of a final traffic study prior to the start of construction.
Com. Goldspiel stated that it is unusual to give preliminary approval before the Traffic
Study is complete. Mr. Stilling responded that the proposed plan is an improvement over
what exists today and the parking meeting the zoning requirements. Com. Goldspiel
asked if any surprises are anticipated out of the Traffic Study. Mr. Stilling replied that
based upon the testimony there are no surprises an ticipated. Com. Goldspiel asked
about the zoning requirements for parking. Mr. Stilling advised that it is one space per
employee. Com. Goldspiel asked staff to review the final Traffic Study once it is
complete.
Com. Cohn supports the request. There is a parking issue currently. The Traffic Study is
not for him to resolve at this time. There is also opportunity for overflow parking at the ice
rink.
Com. Moodhe asked Ms. Bachar to take into consideration the other events that affect
parking and asked staff to help. He also believes that a temporary traffic signal would
help. The proposed plan is better than what exists.
RESULT: RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE [UNANIMOUS]
Next: 8/21/2017 7:30 PM
MOVER: Mitchell Weinstein, Commissioner
SECONDER: Zill Khan, Commissioner
AYES: Smith, Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Goldspiel, Khan, Lesser, Weinstein
ABSENT: Amy Au
Regular Meeting
Other Matters for Discussion
None.
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Approval of Minutes
1. Planning and Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting - Jul 19, 2017 7:30 PM
Com. Cesario noted two corrections on Page 59 of the packet concerning the
July 19, 2017 minutes:
Com. Cesario appreciates the changes to Section A (northwest corner). He
personally prefers the cul de sacs, but professionally would prefer the Traditional.
If the developer moves forward with the Cluster design, he would prefer the
Original Cluster design. However, the Traditional design eliminates
mostaddresses many of the concerns held by the PZC. He would like to see
more ranch-style modelsfirst floor masters offered. Also the Traditional Design
would be easier to maintain.
RESULT: ACCEPTED AS AMENDED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Adam Moodhe, Commissioner
SECONDER: Scott Lesser, Commissioner
AYES: Smith, Moodhe, Cesario, Cohn, Goldspiel, Khan, Lesser, Weinstein
ABSENT: Amy Au
Chairman's Report
None.
Committee and Liaison Reports
Mr. Stilling advised on the closing and start of construction of the Woodman's project.
Staff Report/Future Agenda Schedule
Mr. Stilling advised that Link Crossing will most likely not be ready for the August 16, 2017
agenda. CMAP will be presenting on their GOTO 2050 plan.
Public Comments and Questions
None.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 PM
Chris Stilling Director of Community Development
APPROVED BY ME THIS 2nd DAY OF August , 2017