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BUFFALO GROVE
Department of Building&Zoning Frank E.Hruby,Jr..C.B.O.
Fifty Raupp Blvd. Director of Building&Zoning
Buffalo Grove,IL 60089-2196
Phone 847-459-2530
Fax 847-459-7944
AGENDA
APPEARANCE COMMISSION MEETING AND WORKSHOP
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, MARCH 13 , 1997
7 :30 P.M.
I . CALL TO ORDER
II . ROLL CALL
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
IV. BUSINESS
A. St . Paul Federal Bank for Savings
One W. Dundee Road
Cash Station Signs on 3-Sided Ground Sign
B. Mobil Oil - "On The Run" Car Wash/Bakery
Northeast Corner - Arl . Hts. Rd. & Rt . 83
Full Review - Elevations, Materials,
Landscaping and Lighting
Signs (Variance Required)
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Prepared by Bldg. Dept . Liaison
Edward Schar
Deputy Building Commissioner
For: Richard Gordon
Chairman
The Village of Buffalo Grove, in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act,
requests persons with disabilities who require certain accommodations to allow them to
observe and/ or participate in this meeting, or have questions about the accessibility
of the meeting or facilities, contact the ADA Coordinator at 459-2518 to allow the
Village to make reasonable accommodations for these persons.
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APPEARANCE COMMISSION
MEETING AND WORKSHOP
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 1997
I . CALL TO ORDER
In the absence of Chairman Richard Gordon, the meeting was
called to order at 7 :37 P.M. and chaired by Commissioner
Fred Weissman in the Council Chambers of the Village Hall,
50 Raupp Boulevard.
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : F. Weissman, A. Viehman, M. Cea,
E. Smith, L. Dorfman and C. Masure
Commissioners Absent : R. Gordon
Bldg. Dept . Liaison: Richard Jensen, Building Inspector
Village Board Liaison: Trustee DeAnn Glover
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 23 , 1997 - Motion to approve as submitted was made
by Com. Viehman and seconded by Com. Cea.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Viehman, Cea, Smith and Weissman
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Dorfman and Glover
Motion Passed - 4 to 0, 2 abstentions
Minutes of January 23, 1997 were approved as submitted.
IV. BUSINESS
A. St . Paul Federal Bank for Savings
One W. Dundee Road
Cash Station Signs on 3-Sided Ground Sign
Mr. Gene W. Ryan, Sales Manager, White Way Sign Company,
1317 Clybourn Avenue, Chicago, IL (312-642-6580) made the
presentation.
The individual units are about 11-1/2" in height by 4 ' in
length and they will be installed below the main sign. They
are green with white lettering. Only the white will be seen
at night . The sign will be recessed within the sheeting of
the base and will be illuminated with one florescent tube
light . The signs will be three inches (3" ) behind the main
sign face.
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The signs are needed because many people use the cash
station at night and the existing low directional signs at
the entrances are not easy to see.
Com. Cea made a motion to recommend approval of the addition
of three (3) Cash Station signs below the main identifica-
cation sign faces at the St . Paul Federal Savings Bank,
1 W. Dundee Road, as presented.
Com. Dorfman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Viehman, Cea, Smith, Dorfman,
Masure and Weissman
NAY - None
Motion Passed- 6 to 0 .
B. WORKSHOP: Mobil Oil - "On The Run" Car Wash/Bakery
Northeast Corner - Arlington Heights Road and Rt . 83
Full Review: Elevations, Materials, Landscaping,
Lighting and Signs (Variance required)
Mobil Oil was represented by:
Mr. Vitas Maciukevicius, W-T Engineering, Inc. ,
Project Manager, 39 E. Scully Drive, Schaumburg, IL
60193 (895-3640) made the basic presentation.
Mr. Raymond M. Elliott and Mr. David E. Werner, Mobil
Oil Corporation, Mid-America Resale District, Post
Office Box 874, Joliet, IL 60434 (815-477-2863) .
Mr. James B. Russell, Project Manager, atterson
Construction Company, Inc . 22292 N. Pe— er Road,
Unit D, Barrington, IL 60010 (847- 382-1810)
Mr. Warren Johnson, Warren Johnson Architects, Inc. ,
19 N. Greeley Street, Palatine, IL 60067 (847-359-9616)
Mr. Maciukevicius said they have appeared before the Village
Board and have met with the Plan Commission three (3) times .
They are working out the noise issues associated with the
car wash because of the proximity of the Spoerlein Commons
residential area that is adjacent to the site .
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The original site plans have been revised. The car wash has
been separated from the convenience store and will located
at the east end of the site. The size of the standard Mobil
"On The Run" building has been reduced from 3 , 000 square
feet to 2, 500 square feet . The under canopy building will
be removed and the end of the canopy will be cut off. There
will be eight (8) gas pumps.
There are similar stations in Wheeling at Lake/Cook Road and
Weiland Road and in Aurora on York Road.
1 . ELEVATIONS, MATERIALS AND COLORS :
The Plan Commission recommended blending the materials,
colors and textures with the Spoerlein development so they
will use grey horizontal siding.
The rear (north) wall of the convenience store is blank
because they do not want any windows on that elevation.
That wall is used for cooler and storage space . They have
put in two (2) false spandrel windows on that blank wall.
There will be a landscaped retaining wall along the rear
lot line that will screen the rear elevation.
Mr. Johnson described the architectural features that will
blend the building with the Spoerlein buildings . They have
added three (3) gables to the front elevation. There is a
large gable over the front entrance with an "On The Run"sign
and two (2) gables with half-circle plastic spoke designs to
break up the facade. The teal around the storefront will be
continued around the windows . The window glass is clear.
Similar gables will be added to the two (2) false windows
with spandrel glass on the rear elevation with matching
half-circle spoke designs . The spokes are a fipon material
recessed into the horizontal yellow drivit band.
They agreed to change the color of the drivit band on the
rear elevation to grey to match the siding. The drivit
band on the front and sides will be yellow.
Com. Viehman asked why the color yellow was chosen when the
standard Mobil colors are blue and red? Yellow is not a
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very pleasing color especially when it is combined with so
many other colors. It will help to eliminate it from the
rear elevation. There are a lot of colors for one project.
Mr. Ray Elliott explained that they prefer to keep the Mobil
image separate from the convenience store. Their long term
goal is to be recognized not only as a gasoline company with
a few items, but a recognized convenience store. The "On
The Run" colors are yellow, teal, white and magenta.
The gutters will be yellow across the front and sides and
grey along the rear elevation. The downspouts will be grey
to match the siding.
The roof top screening will be metal, painted out to match
the grey siding on the convenience store.
The shingles will be standard light grey as proposed. This
was agreed upon after considering whether dark shingles
would be more compatible with the Spoerlein buildings. It
was decided that the lighter color was better next to the
yellow horizontal band.
The windows on the west elevation of the car wash will have
clear glass for light and safety reasons . Patrons prefer to
be able to see outside while going through the car wash.
The lights do not appear bright from the outside because
they are downlights.
2 . LANDSCAPING:
Part of the detention area will be filled in for the road-
way into the carwash. There will be an escape exit toward
the end of the car wash entrance to permit drivers to leave.
There will be a single row of Arbor Vitae along the peri-
meter of the roadway and a double row on the east side to
buffer the sight and sound of the car wash. There will be a
fence along the inside of the pavement next to the detention
area.
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The Village Forester' s Review, dated March 10, 1997 was
discussed. Mr. Maciukevicius said they have no objection
to any of the recommendations with regard to the specie
of the trees and shrubs but they would not want to block
the sign base with evergreens the way the existing sign is
obscured. They agreed to plant something low.
3 . SIGNS :
The existing ground sign will be removed and a new sign will
be installed on the east side of the east entrance. The new
ground sign will be twenty feet (20 ' ) in height and it will
be located twenty feet (20 ' ) from the property line.
The existing ground sign is 104 . 59 square feet . The frontage
would permit an eighty (80) square foot sign. The new sign
is 106 . 58 square feet, so they will request a variance of
Sign Code, Section 14 . 20 . 070 for the size and distance
between ground signs.
The top portion will have an "On The Run" panel next to a
Mobil panel. Below the top panel there will be a Vie de
France Bakery Express sign. A variance of Sign Code,
Section 14 .20 . 030 will be required to permit an occupancy
within an occupancy. Mr. Elliott said the bakery is a
franchise owned by Mobil and would be operated by Mobil
employees . He asked for verification that a variance is
needed.
Ch. Weissman asked if the Vie De France sign is not permit-
ted, would the height of sign be lowered?
Mr. Maciukevicius response was that they would like to keep
the twenty foot (20 ' ) height and would raise all the copy.
Com. Viehman noted that if the sign faces are raised then
the landscaping at the base would have to be modified.
There is a red Touch Free panel on the ground sign. The
blue Touch Free sign on the east end of the car wash would
require a variance because it does not face a right-of-way
so it will be moved to the south end over the car wash exit .
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There will be an "On The Run" sign over the door and a
Vie de France wall sign on the front of the convenience
store. Interior drawings were displayed.
If the Vie de France use is not permitted, this sign would
be eliminated. They would not display the Pegasus symbol .
The Mobil signs on the canopy were discussed. There are two
(2) existing Mobil signs on the south face of the canopy and
a third sign is shown on the east end. Because the third
sign would not be facing a right-of-way, it would require a
variation.
Mr. Maciukevicius agreed to remove the sign at the east end
on south face of the canopy and eliminate the proposed sign
on the east end. (The sign on the west end is not shown on
the Site Signage Plan - 1 of 7 . )
The Detail Center was described as a new feature of the
Mobil car wash system and the sign is required to inform
the public of the services offered. Since this is an
additional ground sign, it would exceed the number of ground
signs permitted, and they will request a variance to keep
it . The vending machine supplies various car care products.
The Detail Center would be open 24 hours, but the car wash
would closed at 10 : 00 P.M. This has been worked out with
the Plan Commission.
Com. Viehman had observed another sign on the car wash
building in Wheeling that informs customers - f the prices
and includes instructions for using the car .7ash. This sign
was omitted from the diagrams and presentat _on but will be
installed at the proposed location. It should be submitted
for review at the next Appearance Commission meeting.
The directional signs are under four sq. ft . (4 sf) and do
not require Appearance Commission recommendation but they
were discussed. The entrance signs consist of a Pegasus
with an arrow. Mobil agreed to eliminate the sign at the
east driveway on Rt . 83 (#14) . It is an entrance, but it
is really an exit from the car wash and it is unnecessary
because it is in close proximity to the new ground sign.
There is no left turn from the station to Route 83 .
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4 . LIGHTING and PHOTOMETRICS:
There are three (3) types of light fixtures on the site and
they will add matching fixtures as necessary.
There are two (2) heights of pole mounted shoebox fixtures.
There are pole lights at the entrance to the north, at the
Detail Center, two (2) on the drive aisle at the entrance
to the car wash, one (1) at the exit to the car wash and one
(1) on the west side of the car wash building where the air
hose is located. There is also perimeter pole lighting.
There are both single and double light fixtures .
There is existing recessed down lighting under the canopy.
They may add a light fixture between the gables on the rear
wall of the convenience store.
The lights will be adjusted to keep all the light on the
Mobil property. They do not want to be obtrusive to the
neighbors .
The site was approved for a car wash in 1989 with hours
beginning at 7 :30 A.M. on weekdays and 8 : 00 A.M. on the
weekend. The car wash will close at 10 : 00 P.M. every night .
The lights will remain on all night for safety reasons.
5 . CONCLUSION:
Mr. Maciukevicius summarized the elements that have been
discussed and the revisions that have been agreed to with
regard to the gables, the color of the drivit band on the
rear elevation of the convenience store, the signs that will
be eliminated and the signs that require variations .
Regarding the procedure that will be followed, the repre-
sentatives were informed that the minutes of this workshop
will be forwarded to the Plan Commission.
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After the Plan Commission has indicated that the plans are
acceptable, a final presentation will be submitted to the
Appearance Commission for recommendations to the Village
Board for approval of the aesthetics and to the Zoning
Board of Appeals regarding the variations of the Sign Code.
V. ?NNOUNCEMENTS
None .
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Smith made a motion to adjourn.
Com. Cea seconded the motion.
Ch. Weissman adjourned the meeting at 9 :45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
2,0LL,J2e-j,
Shirley Bates
Secretary
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