1980-01-24 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL.
THURS, z JAN. 24, 12§0
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting of the Appearance Commission was called to order at 7:38 P.M.
on Thursday. 'Jan. 24. 1980; by Com. Kirby in the absence of the Chairman
2. ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: M. Holland, L. Paolillo. L. Gibbs. and L. Kirby.
Commissioners absent: D. Knaak and D. Hardt
Bldg. Dept. Representative Present: James Griffin
Prospective Commissioner: Pat Carr (2nd meeting)
3. APPROVAL OF. MINUTES
The minutes of Nov. 29. 1979, Dec. 13. 1979 and Jan. 10. 1980 were deferred.
4. BUSINESS
a) Mr. James Truesdell, Village Planner was present to discuss some proposed
revisions to the Office and Industrial Ordinance. The first item to be
considered was the height of slope relative to buffer zones between indus-
trial and residential districts. Mr. Truesdell explained that to have a
berm with a 4 to 1 slope takes 24 feet of ground;, but a berm with a
3 to 1 slope only takes 18 feet of ground. which would cost the developer
less. The Commission favored dealing with each situation on an individual
*./ basis because such decisions are based on many factors: type of business.
building, abutting residential, land 'topography. etc. Mr. Truesdell said .
the wording could be prepared to specify berming but not restrict by ordi-
nance the height, so that the Engineering Department can make recommendations
as to how much is needed. etc. Landscaping will also be required.
The second change to consider was the requirement to plant a tree every 30
feet. The Plan Commission would like to leave this open so that trees can
be clustered for appearance; with such specifications as the number to be
equivelant to meet the B-5 requirement but leave placement up to the de-
veloper as long as there are some trees planted every 60 ft. as in B-3.
It was noted that the Appearance Commission must review every plan as it is
so Mr. Truesdell's proposal was acceptableAo require a specified number of
trees.
Next, signage was discussed. With the possibility of a business within an
office building, i.e. a restaurant the need for variances might be neces-
sary. but the Appearance Commission felt that the Sign Code was sufficient.
Mr. Truesdell said that for now they would agree to use the Wording of the
Sign Code Section 4.2 and deal with exceptions accordingly.
b) Tanglewood - Temporary Sign
Mr. Jim Hoskins presented the copy of a sign face that they wish to erect
at the NE corner of Busch Rd. and Green Knolls Dr. A . sign exists naw
that belongs to Levitt and it will be purchased from them.
The AC noted that the size of the existing sign is too large and they
\./ must reduce the size to 120 sq. ft. Also some of the wording was to be
deleted. If the Bldg. Dept. inspects the billboard and it is in good
repair. it may used as long as the size is made conformable.
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Mr. Hoskins was uncertain as to what procedure they will follow, but he
agreed to comply with the Sign Ordinance and with the recommendations of
the Commission. so the following motion was made by Com. Holland:
I move we accept the Tanglewood billboard sign at
the location of the NE corner of Busch Rd. and Rt. 83
as presented. subject to these stipulaions:
a) Upper right hand corner (triangle with
the percentage and type of financing)
to be removed; regular border to be
extended;
b) Words "From $112.950" be removed and
Single Family Homes to be centered
under Logo.
c) Words "North on Rt. 83 to Busch Rd." be
removed — and Models with an arrow of
letter size similar to "North on Rt. 83...
.." be inserted; and color — Black.
Further stipulated:
Motion is subject to inspection of the
Billboard Sign by the Administrator as
the material condition of the Billboard;
and also:
The sign fact shall not exceed 120 sq. ft.
as per the Sign Ordinance �r
Com. Paolillo seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was taken:
Aye — Holland, Paolillo. Gibbs.
and Kirby
Motion Passed Unanimously.
c) Home Federal — Plaza Verde; Face Change
Gwen Osborne. representative,presented the proposed change of copy
at the Home Federal Savings and Loan, white. The new sign will be
placed on three faces of the building. The Logo will be an individual—
ly back—lit with red painted face. The rest of the sign will be white
letters constructed in the same way. The name has been changed to.
Nor-a Federal of Chicago. This is an incorporated name. It will occupy
more space vertically but only about 1/2 of the existing horizontal space.
The Sign Code reference is Section 5.3 - Category' 1 and the provision
regarding square footage. The Commission had difficulty visualizing the
sign as it would appear on the wall and asked that drawings be submitted.
Motion to table was made by Com. Paolillo, and seconded by Com. Gibbs.
Roll Call Vote was Aye — Paolillo. Gibbs. Kirby and Holland. Nay — None
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d) C.C. Cycle — Face Change at Dun—El Shopping Center (Formerly Heins Auto)
The sign copy was presented by Mr. Schindler. who described the construction
as a single piece of plexi—glas with blue lettering. He requested the
addition of the address "307 Dundee Rd. to the sign under the logo.
The logo,which is a cyclist,was discussed. Mr. Schindler explained that
since they plan only to sell bikes, not motor bikes or cycles. he felt
the logo was necessary to identify his business.
Com. Paolillo expressed concern that allowing a pictorial logo was opening
up the possibility of other products being advertised.
Ch. Kirby pointed out that it is the purpose of the Appearance Commission
to deal with each sign presented on an individual basis. The cyclist was
not offensive to the other members of the Commission.
Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we accept the sign presented by
C. C. Cycle to replace the Heins Auto
Parts sign, as presented with the addition
of 307 W. Dundee Rd. to be inserted. letters
to be in proportion with the rest of the sign.
Colors to be blue and yellow as in the rendition
submitted.
Com. Holland seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was taken:
Aye — Holland, Gibbs and Kirby
Nay — Paolillo
`-/ Motion Passed 3 to 1.
e) Fireside Terrace. Ken Middleton of Duo Sign; Bob Hirsch of Fireside.
Copy of temporary sales sign and site plan were presented.
The Grove Terrace Apartments are being converted to condominiums. The
sign will be a 10 x 12 ft. — 2 sided sign — mounted on 4 x 4ts and
placed 4 ft. off the ground. It will be about 125 ft.from the Golden
Bear Pylon. One reason for needing a billboard sign is the size of the
Golden Bear sign.
The Commission felt the sign was much "too busy" and discussed ways of
eliminating unnecessary wording and embellishment. All agreed that in
the location on Dundee Rd. where the speed limit is 45 MPH it would be
best for the sign to appear uncluttered. It was further agreed that if
the phone number is ever changed., it will be repainted.
Com. Paolillo made the following motion:
I move we approve the Fireside Terrace sign
as presented with the following stipulations:
a) Phone number be reduced to a smaller size;
thereby allowing the line "models open —
10 to 6" to be moved down;
b) Embellishments on the F be removed;
c) Coloring of "Woodburning Fireplaces" be
yellow as indicated on the banner. which
is to be removed.
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d) Duration of permit to be 6 months with
automatic renewal provided the sign is
kept in good condition.
Com. Gibbs seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was taken.
Aye — Paolillo. Gibbs, and Kirby.
Nay — None; Abstain — Holland
Motion Passed.
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS
James Griffin asked if a Patio Furniture Store moving into the Prudential
Shopping Center must have a sign reviewed if they plan to use 10" lower
case letters. He was directed to check the sign package and if there is
no:,specific mention that first letters must be caps. then it is OK.
Mr. Griffin asked if a 4th sign could be added to the gound sign at
Dun El. The Heins Auto Parts Shop has been divided and a second office
will be opening. C.C. Cycle has taken the whole sign. but it is really
3 pylon signs now, so any other must have a variation by the ZBA.
The Applegate situation has not quite been resolved. but Mr.Verbic did
agree to remove the sign from the Windfield billboard. Mr. Griffin has
determined that K & B still owns the billboard and he will be in contact
to see to it that the billboard is removed.
The Westwood Estates sign is apparently being lit at night and Mr. Griffin u
will take care of this matter.
6. ADJOURNMENT
Com. Paolillo made a motion to adjourn at 9:40 P.M. Seconded by
Com. Holland. The Commissioners voted Aye Unanimously to adjourn.
Respectfully submitted.
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Shirley Bates ecretary
Appearance Commission
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