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1978-10-12 - Appearance Control Commission - Minutes 00 A4 ef-e • APPEARANCE COMMISSION • a VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILL. OCTOBER 12, 1978 1 . CALL TO ORDER • The Appearance Commission was called to order at 7:42 p.m . October 12 , 1978, by Chairman Don Hardt. 2 . ROLL CALL Present : Commissioners Kirby, Gibbs , Knaak and. Hardt . Also: Dominic Saviano from the Bldg . Dept . Absent : CommissionersEerins and Paolillo . Both of these Commissioners arrived later. QUORUM PRESENT 3 . APPdOVAL OF MINUTES • Because of the length of the Adenda, chairman Hardt asked that the Minutes of the past two meetings be deferred until the Workshop. There were no objections . 4, OLD BUSINESS a) krudential - Early Learning Center Prudential - Strathmore Shoppi•Ig Center, T . P. Conrardy Early Lernin,z Center - Linda Mensch, Lawyer and Arvid Olson Homeowners Assn. - Brad Olsen, Representative of citizens . With reference to the requests made by the Homeowners for some additional screening of the Strathmore Shopping Center pr'1neri y made at a previous Appearance Commission meeting - Mr. Brad Olsen has had delivered to the Commissioners a 7 page letter with requested. improvements which they feel are necessary. • Chairman Hardt asked if the Prudential/ELC people had copies of this document - They were given copies this night . Plans have also been submitted by Prudential of the landscapirg scheme they feel will illeviate the problems . Ch. Hardt asked the Prudential representative to present their proposal for the Roof-top Units , Sreening of the .Buffer Zone on the East and South sides of the property, Lighting and possibly drainage . Chairman Hardt asked if the document presented by Mr . Olson was representative of the feelings of all the residents present? Are they as a whole in accord with ore another? Mr. Olsen said ,. "Basically yes - he added that there are one or two minor addi- tions to be made tonight ." Ms . Mensch asked that a brief period of time be allowed for the ELC Landscape Architect and Prudential to review the docu- ment submitted by the Homeowners . This was granted . Ch . Ha.rut stated that since ELC/rrud . were the property owners the AC' s main concern is for them taking into consideration the requests of the property owners . Commissioner Paolil.lo arrived at this point . b) Anden - Gerry De Grazia for Northwoods Sign : Chairman Hardt asked for a brief precentatton as to location, duration. etc . Fir . De Grazia said. they wart to erect a two feced sign on the Southern portion of the site abutting County Line Road directed toward the models at Armstrong , East of Wieland . Perpendicular to Lack-Cook Road on the SW Corner - 50 ' back. Eventually it will be lighted with proper shielding so as not to be directed toward the road . Duration of time - until all homes are sold . Ch. Hardt informed Mr . De Grazia that under the New Sign Ord . Off-Premise signs are limited for 6mos .wth automatic extention - if the sign is in good. condition - See Item 5-2 . Commissioner hirby questioned the size but it has been .amended to the 10' x 12' size allIwed with alljopy within the the face of the sign. Commissioner PPaolillo asked if Mr . De Grazia knew they were not to have directional signs on poles around the village . Mr. De Grazia said that because of th' location of the property they need the signs to point people back into their models . Ch. Hardt said one solution would be to put more information on the sign. -� After discussin - the situation Er. De Grazia agreed to put it up as requested and if any change would be made at a later time he will return. Commissioner Kirby made the following motion: I move we accept the Anden, Northwoods Sign as presented with the stipulations that a) it be located at a site approximately 2, 000 ft . East of v+iei.a.nd Rd , set back 50 feet from the corner at Lake-Cook Rd . on the South West corner of the Anden Property, • b) the permit shall be for a period of six months c) the size will be 1C' x 12' The motion was seconded by Commissioner Gibbs . Roll Call Vote wag taken and the Notion Passed unanimously. The Pennants on the models have been issued a permit for 60 days . Mr. De Grazia asked if they will be allowed to have in extention to allow them to remain up for 30 days -after their Grand opening? Ch. Hardt read. from the Sign Ordinance - SAction 6 .7 and made the comment that since l'orthwoods is not a business district the AC could consider such a request at a later date . APPEARANCE AI CE COMMISSION October 12 , 1978 - Page Two. a) Prudential - Early Learning; Centert continued The Early Learning Center Landscape Architect , Harry Schuster made the presentation the plan for the South property line : 1 . Fence at the property line - 8 feet which provides a minimum of 4' above the concrete wall . 2 . Shrubs planted south of the swale, gravel mulched . 3 . Trees placed within the property will screen the ELC property. Ch. Hardt asked about the fence on Mr. Johnson' s property. Mr. A . Olson said that would be Mr . Johnson' s responsibility. Chi Hardt as'ied the distance between fences? "approx . 5 ft . ) • Com . Kirby asked about the taller plantings -will be? Mr . Schuster said the maximum height of most of the shrubbery will be 8-10 ft . tall . Ch. Hardt asked if any of the plantings been selected to screen the roof top units? "It' s not possible to provide a solid screen, but the trees will be beneficial . " • Ch. Hardt asked if the fence will act as an effective screen for the headlights of cars in- the- parking lot from the resident' s patios . "Yes, because the concrete retaining wall will be a minimum of 4 ft . below the 8 ft . fence ." Ch. Hardt asked Dominic Saviano or Tom Fennell if there is any man-,�+ �.Te o having a grass or gravel swale . "Mr. Fennell said ' With the fence on the lot line there won' t be much difference , but he suggested gravel would be favored . " Ch . Hardt asked for any rebuttal from the Homeowners with respect to the landscaping and noted that the landscaping could not be considered apart from the roof top units . He stated his personal opinion was that a combination of architectural treatment plus landscaping would be the most effective, least expensive as well as the roost esthetically pleasing solution. the Mr . Brad Olson responded that / landscaping plan that the home- owners had presented had. been reviewed with Mr . Conrardy during ' the recess and that he had. agreed to accept their proposal, but the Early Learning Center portion was not included . Ch. Hardt questioned the credentials of Mr. Rasmussen? "He is a civil engineer, 'with responsibilities which include the develop- ment of shopping centers . He has combined Mr. Schuster' s sugges- tions for plantings with his expertise relating to screening ." Some discussion followed concerning the agreement reached with the Homeowners and Yr. Conrardy with reference to Yrudential' s portion. APIEAHANCE COMMISSION Oct . 12 , 1978 - Page Three • Mr. Olsen proposed an 8' fence inside the wall on theShopping Center side on top the lift birm making approximately 62,t feet of the stoekade fence will be an adequate screening of the cars in the parking lot . See detail A. Also, East of the ELC property a 6'fence will be made to be in a straight line as agreeable with Mr. Conrardy. The fence will be on the property line . Also agreeable with Mr. Conrardy if there is no additional ex- pense the Roof Top Units on their building will be moved back about 18 feet: toward the center of the building. If there is a cost to do -this then the Homewmers prefer to have landscaping. With reference to Plan C submitted by ELC, Mr. Olson said the plan gives the Homeowners less than what they started out with. The Village Board was for a 12' fence inside the property line . The problem is the different-sets of plans which are being sub- mitted and this is a problem which the AC cannot solve . Chairman Hardt asked Tom Fennell to explain the situation as to the approved plan for the fence on the ELC property. Mr. Fennell stated that he was not present at the Planning Cope. meetings where the recommendation was made by the Plan Coma to the Village Board to place the fence on the Southernmost pro- perty line from Arlington Hts . Road eastward - set back 12' in • at the ELC property - back to the property line to the east edge and then proceed up the East lot line to #83. This recom- mendation was given in writing to the Board and was made after considerable discussion involving the Homeowners . It was Mr. Fennell' s personal opinion that the Board, working from correct minutes and agreements had incorrect drafting plans , an error which was later caught , plans that showed the fence en�P £ -s fit . off the property line . Mr. Fennell said that Plan C was the approved fence As it was meant to be. - a 6' wood stockade fence located 12 ft . in from the property line . Ch. Hardt asked Mr. Fennell if the original reason for the fence set back was noise polution. Mr. Fennell answered that it was the general realization of a normal situation involving children that it was more advisable to have the solid fence placed back. Ch. Hardt asked Mr. Conrardy to verily his agreement to the stipulations as presented by Mr. Olsen- Homeowner' s representative■ . Mr. Conrardy said that basically he agreed , adding that the plan is pore expensive but noting the difference in elevation was a factor that was not considered . He said a problem is there and that everyone has rights . The question is, "Where do we steed?" He agreed to the 8 ft . fence - the trees in the parking lot will not only cost money but parking space as well as additional curbing. Mr. Conrardy emphasized that he wanted to see the ELC owner, Mr. Arvid Olson get some consideration, because everyone has some responsibility and Mr. Olson should get some relief . • Appearance Commission Oct . 12, 1978 - Page Four. • Mr. Hardt asked Mr. Arvid Olson for his statements regarding the plans the Homeowner' s have submitted calling for landscaping and 12 ft . fence . Mr. Olson explained that his problem begins with the fart that he was not present at the Planning Commission' s meeting where the fence set back was decided and he did not agree to it . His plans which have been "approved" show the fence on the property line with a chain link fence inside - also Mr. Olson has a perlit to build according to his plans . He is willing to landscape if he can erect the stockade\fence on the property line with the chain' link to comply with thebuffer zone . He proposed a com provide to place the stockade fence 10 ft . in along the property line on the South adjoin the fence on the east property line and put the chain link inside as a buffer 12 feet in from the property line . Trustee Bob Bogart said that Mr. Olson was at the meeting, when the Planning Commission made the recommendation. Mr. Brad Olson presented the two sets of plans . • Ch. Hardt stated that the AC has been advised by the Village Staff of what their intro pretat ion of the correct plans and the AC is here to hear the compromise Mr. Arvid Olson has made and based upon all the information the AC will made a recom- mendation to the Board. Mr. Brad Olson again expressed the Homeowner's desires to Main-. tain a 12' buffer zone and brought out the fact that the Village Board minutes also state that the Roof top units on the ELC should have a screen. Ch. Hardt summarized the Homeowners -ELC proposal as follows :- Concerning thee- Ch. Hardt is in agreement with the land- : 7 nb ing .) soaping approach oft the South side above b- Screening 1 the retaining wall and birming up the c - Roof Top Units) land to hide the effect of a bare concrete wall . The landscaping should provide easy maintainance and would conceal roof to.p units with trees strategically located to provide a screen from the individual patios . 8' fence too high - he prefers a 6' fence on ton a 2- 3 ft . birm . on the South side . and a 6' fence on the East side . In the parking area 2 ft . is not enough for trees so a section 4-5 ft .sq . should be provided . An area on the south of the fence could be sodded with . some gravel also in the swalei with shrubs and trees to provide a multi level screen. The Roof Top units on Bldg. A & B are a problem . The unts could be voted toward the middle of the building without too much cost . The stacks could be painted out a dark color. ELC Roof Top Units (seen from yards) could be painted out and together with the landsrap- ing would be effective . Appearance Commission Oct. 12 , 1978 - Page Five • Mr. Hardt continued to give his opinion concerning the fence on the ELC property. He said that he has understood that the play- ground requirements were the main reason for the area requested . He feels that Mr. Olson' s plan for a chain link fence 12' inside means he is losing 12 feet either. way. Mr. Olson said his reason for wanting the stockade fence on the property line with landscaping inside between the chain link and the wood fence would allow the children to enjoy the plant- ings. • Ch. Hardt opened the disuussion to the panel . The Commissioners each clarified in their own minds the various choices that have been presented and questions were answered . Some of the points that were brought out were : - 1 or 2 parking spaces would be lost to Mr . Conrarey. Space needed for trees would be 5 x 5 area. Com. Gibbs questioned the space trucks would have behind Wh.Hen "It is sufficient ." The manhole drains into an 8-10 : inch pipe within the concrete wall into a pipe 12 incieabove the ground . After more general discussion including the suggestion to have the Village Board minutes reviewed and some suggestions as to the typee' of plantings , Mr. Hardt stated that the choice the Commission has is to table pending mo a inforration or to act upon the information available 1Ma a recommendation which is subject to review andy the Village Board. The Commissioners were in favor to made a recommendation at this time, unanimously. The heights of the stackade fence was discussed and a straw poll indicated they preferred a 7' high stockade fence on the property lime . Mr . Hardt' s summation of recommendation of the AC is on the following 3 pages . (See summary sheets . ). STRATHMORE SHOPPING CENTER - Drainage Chairman Hardt ruled that the approval of drainage is out of the scope of the Appearance Commission. The Village engineers have approved it and must made it work. STRATHMORE 3HOPPING CENTER - Lighting The lighting was reviewed. and Commissioner Knaak made the motion: I so move we approve lighting for the Strathmore Shopping Center to have 15-20 ft . poles with 200 watt sodium varor lights, illuminalres with ap ropriate cut-offs so there will be no adverse lighting problems on the residential areas abutting said property. The Village Bldg. Dept . will have overriding decision with respect to safety and providing that they give the amount of light required by the Police Dent . The motion was seconded by Commissioner Kirby. Roll Call Vote was taken and the Motion Passed unanimously. • • Appearance Commission Oct . 12, 1978 - Page Six tt!!ll�..J APPEARANCE COMMISSION VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL. ADDITIONS and CORRECTIONS of the minutes of Oct . 12, 1978 Appearance Commission meeting as per Nov. 9, 1978 meeting. Page 5 - Line 4 of Homeowners-ELC proposal: bard s/b bare Page 6 - 1st paragraph after indentation: mad made s/b and make strike word 'appeal' Page 8 - (Summary sheet) Item c : South side should be a: 7 ft . stockade fence located approximately 12 feet within.:. the property line , to line up with the fence along the Pruden- tial property on the South side. Item d: fence 12' in on the East pro- perty line strike - ' intersecting the chain link fence' . . . . sp. fence Page 10 - Paragraph 3 line 5: on page 49, insert - Sec . 10-1 ADDITIONS and CORRECTIONS of the minutes of Oct . 26, 1978 Appearance Commission Meeting, as per Nov. 9, 1978 meeting. Pair 1 - Buffalo Grove Glass, paragraph 1: 2nd sentence should read - "The proposed sign face is using the existing sign cam ." Delete -'The sign existing sign.' Page 1 - 2nd paragraph - strike: 'and/or painted out' Page 2 - In motion under 3: add 'caliper' after 2i ineh. Page 3 - Ranch Mart - Paragraph 21 Line 2 - insert 'beams! - (flush with the -beams because) Cambridge on the Lake - Strike #2 in motion Page 4 - In j - motor s/b mortar Strike q Wage 5 - In motion c) - strike (or less) Page 6 - Strike 1 and m - Insert 1) Toe board, lx8 entire length of the opening Page 7 - Landscaping motion was made by Commissioner Pen!bllo Item c) - Add after Fences : in front yard used to direct visitors. Shirley Bates • • VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE APPEARANCE COMMISSION ( ) Planned Development ( ) Special Use Prudential - Strathmore Shopping( ) Subdivision ( ) Commercial [`Qnt r ( ) Rezoning Addition • Subject Title (Or Name of Subdivision) ( ) Sign ( ) Other #83 and Arlington Hts . Rd. Prudential Realty Co. , Inc. Early LP'arninm Center Location Developer (Owners Current Zoning Zoning Requested Proposed Use Brief Statement -of Action Requested: • Homeowners - Brad Olsen Thomas P . Conrarey, Prudential - 3520 W . Devon Ave . Lincolnwood 605K9 Arvid Olson. Ea.r=.y Learning Center - 1320 N. Arlg nrtonHts . (60004) 1erson to be Contacted Phone Address Road . • Date Received: /Date of Hearing: October 12, 1978 (Do not write below th_ts line) Appearance Commission Recommendation: Don Hardt, Chairman of the AC summed up the recommendh.tions of the Homeowners Group and the Early Learning Center and the Prudential Corp. as they were worked into a compromise that seemed equitable to all the concerned parties , as fo? lows : 1. ROOF TOP UNITS FCR PRUDENTIAL a) Roof Top Units (Condensing Units) on Buildings .i & B are to be Moved more toward the longitudinal center of the . building; b) Paint out remaining roof top stacks and the roof top units that are in lire of sight . 2. LANDSCAPING • • a) Landscape along the plans of Section A, . (the South border) and Section D (the East border) , as submitted by the Homeowner' s with reference to Mr. Conrardy' s portion; with imput by the Landscape Architect as to the durability of the species selected; • b) To have those trees that are included in the plans to be flexible and that they shall be strategically located so as to provide maximum screening for the inditidual patio areas of the residents along the South and East sides . continiaed. . . ,i —' bate of Approval 10/] 2/78 Chairman of Appearance Comm. Don Hardt Page Seven 3. SWALE AREA a) That the developers use sod in combination with • low lying shrubs .. Wood chips shall not be used, • replace with a gravel of stone type material to prevent it from being floated away, during rain storms . 4. FENCES . • a) That the fences along the South property line of the Prudential Area be located just inside the concrete wall . • b) Along the East property line of the Prudential Center that the fence be constructed at either: 1. The prorerty line with the 12 foot green belt in conformance with Sec- ' tion D, or - 2. in conformance with the original approved landscape plan. e) With respect to the fence along the South of the Early Learning Center that it be wood stockade fence located 12 feet within the property line - Fence to be continued for the entire length (both • Early Learning Center and Prudential) to extend • along the East property line the entire way a • height of 6 feet throughout . d) In. addition to 4-c, a cyclone (chain link) fence 12' In on theronerty line extending from the Southern stockade' fence to the Northern part of the play- ground - intersactinKt - ai, }ink fence - with a taper along the East property line bringing it down s�.__jtrom 7 feet into a smooth transition with the pro- • . • posed 6 foot fence. e) In addition, the 12 foot buffer will be net along both property lines in the areas where Shade Tree8 are to be planted at the parking lot elevation along the South property line . Planting areas will be cut out approximately 5` x 5' to provide adequate watering and whatever is necessary to make the trees survive • . Eont'd ' Appearance Commission Oct . 12, 1978. - Page E igh 1. • • . • APPEARANCE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS - Page Three Strathmore Shopping Center - October 1241978 • • 5, ROOF TOP UNITS on Early Learning Center • • a) Stipulation that Mr. Olson (Earlg:-.Learning Center) provide an effective screen, architec - turaly• done , that will be approved by this Commission, at a later date . Chairman Hardt specified that the above motion was formulated • . based on what was discussed this night (October 12, 1978) asking that specific landscape plans be submitted for final approval that will feet the requirements stated above . The representatives need not be present . Mr. Saviano will pre- sent them at a Workshop. • Motion was made by Commissioner Paolillo and seconded by Commissioner Gibbs . Roll call Vote was taken and the Motion Passed. 5-Aye - Commissioners Knaak, Kirby, Gibbs, Paolillo and Hardt . • 1-Naye - Commissioner Berins • sb • • • • • Appearance Commission Oct . 12, 1978 - Page Nine e) Rosen & Shane Represented by: E. L. Maradei , Flastric Inc . Mr. Maradei made a presentation of the proposal to reduce the size of the sign to fit into the location of the store frontage because the owner is now leasing less space in the Lieberman Shopping Center. The question was raised as to whether the signs as they now exist are to be considered as a 'si.ngle sign ( in which case they are over the alloted 120 sq . ft , as a geometric total would have to be considered from one end to the other) or as two signs which would be considered Legal--iron-Conforming . It was decided that there are two separate sign. Commissioner Kirby stated that each change requested must be considered as an independent situation with respect to the new sign ordinance. . She pointed out that the section that; applies in this case is a c on page 49, Loss - Non-Conforming Status . Since the copy is Jo " ' not being changed , only the size of the wording and the loca- tion the sign is NOTin less compliance . It is still a Legal Non-Conforming Sign. Commissioner Gibbs made the following motion: I move we approve the request: for Rosen & Shane to reduce the size of the sign. Commissioner Berins seconded the motion. Chairman Hardt asked for discussion and Commissioner Knaak suggested that the ampersand in Wines & Spirits might look better if it were also reduced to match the one in Rosen & S . All agreed this would be more esthetically pleasing . Chairman Hardt then requested that all the holes that are left be filled with cement and that the electrical discon- nect be painted out to match the color of the brick. Mr. Maradei said he would so stipulate . An amendment was so made by Commissioner Knaak:- a) Change the size of the ampersand in Wines & Spirits to the new size in Rosen & Shane . b) Fill all the holes with cement . c) Paint •out the disconnedt to a color similar to the bricks . Commissioner Kirby seconded the am iendment . Roll Call Vote on the Ammendment was taken and the Ammendment Passed unanimously. Roll Call Vote on the Motion was taken and Passed. unanimously. • Appearance Com*tission Oct . 12 , 1978 - Page Ten • 5. NEW BUSINESS a) Levitt Builders - BUFFALO CREEK Richard. Kobylski - Levitt Sales• Corp. AHCHITECTUdE Chairman Hardt recalled Mr . Kobylski' s previous presentation of the building materials and asked him to review each of the models they are building. 4 Models - - - 2 with 2-story . 1 - a split level -1 - ranch style 50)6 of the units have side load. garages so that they appear to be different elevations . DR 5 - Nos . 1,2, 5,6,9, & 10 . Ranch Style DR 6 - out - -3,4,7,8 11, &12 . DR 7 Ch. Iiardt asked that Mr. Kobylski stipulate that all models shall have chimney stacks on the rear of the roofs . Stacks are to be pre-fab, fake brick. Shutters - Wood. of a good quality. Downspouts and gutters match or contrast trim . Colors to be determined. by firstIbuyer for both homes . Garage doors - pa- eled. but all one color. DiJ 11 - Split level Existing monotony code may not apply because this is a FUD Develppment and meets these requirements . The models have been 0K' d by the Planning Commission. Grading will conform to the building lines . Railinns-Wood . Fosts - wood on a concrete base which will be chemically treated . DiJ 12 - 1,2, 3,4,5, & 6 . • DS 15 - # 1 is not on a corner - front load garage . DS 16 2 & 3 Not on a corner, wood is painted and stucco can be painted . DS 17 - 5 & 6, #4 out . DS 19 - Muttons carried to any windows on side elevations . DS 20 - Side load, 2 story - same stipulation for shutters . Attic vents on side lots to be painted out . DS 21 - Out . APPEAARANCE COMMISSION Oct . 12 , 1973 - Page E leven DL - 24 - Large 2 story. Blank garage wall was discussed, and an appliqued vent on the peak was suggested . A straw poll indicated it not be necessary. DL 25 - 2 & 3, - Out 4,5, & 6. DL 28 - 7.8, & 9 - Corner lots havep250.00 landscaping for_ which the owner will pay the cost . It will include 1 tree and shrubbery. The developer is to send the basic layout . Commissioner Kirby made the following motion: I move we approve the arc'-lite( tural plans for Levitt' s Strathmore - Buffalo Creek Duplexes - with the following stipulations : a) All chimneys be at the rear roof lines and be simulated bric`c - pre-fabs . b) Roof top vents on all models to be on the rear elevation and will be apinted out to match the roof color. c) Windows on side elevations on corner lots to be treated with shutters . d) Wood posts to be treated chemically, also exposed wood on concrete bases . e) All shutters to be of high quality wood . The motion was seconded. by Commissioner Berins . Roll call vote was taken and the Motion' Passed , 5 to 1. Aye - Commissioners F3.olillo, Berins, Kirby Gibbs and Chairman Hardt . Naye - - Commissioner Knaak • LANDSCAPING Tabled pending staff review and Forester' s report . MODEL AREA LIGHTING Mr. Kobylski showed the panel the proposed lights for the entry ways and garages . All garages to haire lights . APPEARANCE COMMISSION Oct . 12, 1978 - Page Twelve • Commissioner Kirby made the following motion: I move we accept the lighting for. the Buffalo Creek models with these stipulations : a) Bronze on Tudor elevations b) Black on others . c) Back door fixtures to have a black base (top) d) Lights on every garage . Seconded by Commissioner Gibbs . • Roll Call Vote was taken and the Notion'':Passed - unanimously. SIGNAGE: I - ID S ign The following motion was made b,r Commissioner Gibbs : Sign to be located on the South .East corner of the parcel on Aptakisic Rod - - I move we accept the signage 'or Levitt' s Buffalo Creek with these stipulations : a) Bring Script into 7.ectangle of posts . b) Must be 3 ft . off she ground. c) Temporary sign for trailer to be moved. to permanent location at entrance later . Page 50 of New Sign Ordinance . The motion was seconded by Commissioner Kirby . Roll Call vote was taken and the Notion Passed unanimously. SIGNAGE: II Models • Commissioner Gibbs made the following motion: I move we accept the signage for the Buffalo Creek models as presented . Commissioner Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was taken and the Motion Passed unanimously. The models will have flood lights directed on the homes . Mr. Kobylski will return with diagrams for approval . 6. WORKSHOP • Because of the time the Minutes were not approved. Chairman Hardt commended Commissioners Knaak and Paolillo for representing the AC at the Board meeting to present the Commission' s approval of the New .Sign Ordinance and its dis-approval of the roppin' Fresh sign change . APPEARANCE COMMISSION Oct . 12 , 1978 - Page Thirteen • Chairman Hardt also thanked Commissioner Gibbs for his faithful attendance at the Off-Street Parking meetings . Commissioner Gibbs presented a draft of the RV troposal - which will be reviewed at the next meeting . He reported that for the most part the majority favors allowing some parking of large vehicles . Since the Vanco and. Karibu additions have not yet been put • up Mr . 3a.viaro was asked to write a letter to Mr: Balling-of the violation and possible revoking of their business licenses. : It was noted.' that a sheet with the words "New Sign in Town" has been hung in probable response to the new ordinance . The Standard Oil Station at #83 and Arlington Hts . Road had put up more signs without permission. Chairman Hardt will speak to Mr. Tom Fennell about possible ways of enforcing; the new Sign Ordinance and notification of Non-conformers . • The staff anc members of the Commission will review all Village signs to locate signs which have never been approved . A way of formulating follow-up and re-insrection charges is being pursued . Commissioner Kirby suggested have a workshop 1st at the next ' meeting and raking a list of violators to be contacted . • Mr. Saviano mentioned that a bakery being constructed at the Prudential Shopping Center is asking for an additional sign on the side of their building . They must come in . for approvel . 7 . The meeting was adjourned. by mutual consent at 12/05 AM. Respectfully submitted , Shirley Bates , Secretary sb • • APPEARANCE COMMISSION Oct . 12, 1978 - Page Fourteen 7 APPEARANCE COMMISSION VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL. ADDITIONS and CORRECTIONS of the minutes of Oct.. 1 1978 Appearance Commission meeting as per Nov. 9, 1978 meeting. Page 5 - Line 4 of Homeowners-ELC proposal: bard s/b bare Page 6 - 1st paragraph after indentations mad made s/b and make strike word 'appeal' Page 8 - (Summary sheet) Item c : South side should be as 7 ft . stockade fence located approximately 12 feet within.< the property line , to lime up with the. fence along the Pruden- tial property on the South side. Item ds fence 12' in on the East pro- perty line strike - ' intersecting the chain link fence' . . . . sp. fence Page 10 - Paragraph 3 - line 5: on page 49, insert - Sec . 10-1 ADDITIONS and CORRECTIONS of the minutes of Oct . 26, 1978 Appearance Commission meeting, as per Nov. 9, 1978 meeting. Paw 1 - Buffalo Grove Glass, paragraph 1: 2nd sentence should read - "The proposed sign face is using the existing sign cam ." Delete -'The sign existing sign.' Page 1 - 2nd paragraph - strikes 'and/or painted out' Page 2 - In motion under 3: add 'caliper" aefter 2 inch. Page 3 - Ranch Mart - Paragraph 2; Line 2 insert 'beams( - (flush with the -beams because) Cambridge on the Lake - Strike #2 in motion Page 4 - In j - motor s/b mortar Strike q rage 5 - In motion c) - strike (or less) Page 6 - Strike 1 and m - Insert 1) Toe board , lx8 entire length of the opening Page 7 - Landscaping motion was made by Commissioner Psolol.lo Item c) - Add after Fences : in front yard used to direct visitors . Shirley Bates �� 1�