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APPEARANCE CONTROL COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, APRIL 13, 1978
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7 :40 P.M. by . Chairman -
Don Hardt .
2. ROLL CALL
Presents Don Hardt, Lorraine Kirby. Richard Heinrich.
Dominic Saviano, Jr. - Building Dept .
Absent : Herman' Hef ler
QUORUM PRESENT
Also present were perspective commissioners:
Laura Berins , Lou Paolillo, Jr. , Dana Knaak,
Steve Brodie , and Leland ;Bud) Gibbs .
3. AFPROVAL OF MINUTES
A stipulation to be added to the Falcon Sign motion:
The developer is to return for an extension
after a period • of eight (8) months for an
approval to keep the sign beyond the 1 yr
period.
Minutes were- approved as amended.
4. WORKSHOP
The Workshop was postponed until the end of the business
meeting.
5. BUSINESS - Grove Apartments - Signs
Heil, Heil. Smart and Golee
1515 Chicago Ave . , Evanston
Robert Hirsch - owner.
Rich Goodwin, Apartment Manager - Representative
Commissioner Heinrich stated his relationship as 1st Cousin '
to the owner of Grove Apts . and therefore will not Tote . •
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Mr. Goodwin presented the sign and was advised by Chairman Hardt
that one problem exists : the sign must be raised to be three
(3) feet off the ground Also a site plan, showing the exact
location of the sign will be needed .
Mr. Goodwin submitted the plans and drew a sketch to show the
location of the two signs . The existing Sandpiper II sign will
be removed . The signs are non-illuminated , permanent signs .
The rental sign is two faced and the apartment sign is one face.
Mr. Paoillo asked if the tUle for one sign only applied .
'Chairman Hardt said a• further interpretation;would _be needed .
Chairman Hardt asked the Commissioners for their comments and
questions .
Commissioner Kirby stated that she thoughtthe signs were to
be placed two close together and also that;the number of bed-
rooms be eliminated from the larger sign. Possibly the two
signs could be combined. Suggested tabling until a site plan is seen.
Commissioner Heinrich said the sign ordinance gives under R-9.
Residential , the allowance for signs of a total of eight (8)
square feet . He suggested deference until the new sign
ordinance goes into effect .
Mr. Knaak asked what color the posts would be.
Mr. Goodwin said they would agree to any color the Commission
prefers .
Mrs . Berins asked what exactly Dur-A-Ply is.
Mr. Goodwin said it was a treated ply wood , coated to resist
weather. The signs will blend with the colors of the building.
Chairman Hardt asked for a motion to table.
Commissioner Kirby so moved . . Chairman Hardt seconded.
. The motion was carried by two Aye votes. Commissioner Heinrich
abstained.
Mr. Brodie commented he prefers one sign.
Mr. Goodwin said he believed that signs should reflect the
quality of property and that they were very important .
Commissioner Heinrich stated he thought the phone no . was
acceptable on the sign but the Bedroom 1-2-3 was not . He
also said he knew the owner desires to upgrade the Property.
He asked that the sign be in keeping with the rest f the complex.
The posts whould be woodtones to batch the sign. Lsked for sample .
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Other comments from the Commissioners :
Com, Kirby: Prefers a single double face sign.
Chairman Hardt : Restated that the test course of action is
to wait for the new sign ordinance and to perhaps redesign
the sign or signs to meet these specifications . He then
thanked Mr. Goodwin for coming, and that he would be notified
when to come again.
Chairman Hardt then basically explained the procedure for
adopting the new ordinance . He said the Appearance Control
Commissioners would be asked to be present when the draft
is submitted to a Board of Trustees workshop meeting.
• 6 . REVIEWS AND INTERVIEWS
The perspective commissioners Berins , Paolillo , Knaak and
Brodie submitted applications and were asked to briefly state
their reasons for wanting to be Commissioners .
Mr. Gibbs arrived at this point and also submitted his review.
Commissioner Heinrich asked to be excused in order to attend
another meeting at the Fieldhouse concerning a pond to be
constructed near his home .
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Chairman Hardt briefly discussed general sign requirements and
asked that the Commissioners to see site when 'presented .
Some comments about the non-conforming signs at Kohl's Commons
for Caribou Tropics and Vanco being brought into compliance
because their refusal is penalizing the tenants who have been
co-operative .
Mr. Saviano suggested holding up any permits from Kohl's Commons
for new signs until all signs are brought to code , with a pen
alty to the owner of the stores in violation.
A letter could be sent to Verna Clayton asking that the
Business Licenses be rewritten stating the business will comply
with all village ordinances and regulations ; that they are
-- subject . to have their license pulled on thirty ( 30) day notice.
Chairman Hardt asked that the summaries of the perspective
Commissioners be put into the file . Each was asked to state
their reason for becoming Commissioners.
Laura Berins
Is interested in being' involved in the community and believes
the ACC is important because of the need to keep the aesthetic
appearance of the village . She has the time Alacessary to give ,
as well as the needed inclination and aesthetic sense is sound .
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BUD GIBBS
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He read of the need for ACC members in the paper and volunteered.
His background has been with the palatine School Board and he
has had experience with many of the technicalities needed in
building projects . He wishes to meet the needs of the citizens .
His work as a salesman allows him the freedom to schedule his
time around meetings .
STEVE BRODIE
Has a desire to serve the community. Has worked for the
village in community affairs and believes the appearance is
important. He has been active in the Crossings Homeowner's
but, is no longer active even though he is still interested.
DANA KNAAK
Has been a resident of B . G . for six (6) years and has observed
"sign polution" in other areas of the country. He saw the plea
in the paper and he is quite satisfled that this commicsinn is
no of a political nature . He is community minded and interested
in property values . He can schedule.: his business travels as ''i11 .
LOU PAOLILLO
Likes Buffalo Grove . He relates Lake-Cook area to a N.Y.
community where he lived and saw what proper controls can
do. The commission is needed. He is familar with rules in
his work as a Kraft accountant and has good common sense as
well as competent personal opinions . He has no conf lot in
scheduling. His traveling is limited.
Commissioner Kirby commented that the newspaper ad had
brought good results .
Chairman Hardt agreed and spoke briefly about the usual
business meetings . He said that future meetings would
include no more than four (4) reviews each.
The new members are well distributed within the village .
It was noted that two are from the Crossings, one from
,Woodhollow (Lake County) , one from Levitt, two from
Strathmore (Hardt and Kirby) and one from the center
old Buffalo Grove section, Weidner and Bernard.
• Mr. Paolillo inquired how many members make up the ACC.
The number is seven ( 7) but the two temporary members ,
R. Heinrich and H. Hefler will resign because they are
already on the Zoning Board of Appeals and do not have
enough time for both commissions permanently. •
The usual term of office for commissioners is three ( 3)
. years but is was suggested that 3 new members be appointed
for three ( 3) years and two (2) be appointed for two (2)
years so that all terms do not run out at once .
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A request was made for Zoning Maps for the new commissioners
as well as a large village map. The secretary will order
• these for the next meeting.
Mr. Paolillo asked if there are any restrictions as to what
is said at the meetings. <..,<.,r.,..,..
Chairman Hardt advised that if any commissioner had a personal
relationship with any petitioner they should. so state and then
decline to vote . It is best if they excuse themselves and
leave during the discussion. The Workshops will continue
for the first half hour of ACC meetings.
Mr. Brodie asked if the commission is covered by insurance?
Chairman Hardt said he thought so, under the village ordinance.
Commissioner Kirby said it is not the job of the commission
to give any specifications to petitioners . They are to submit
thier own plans.
Chairman Hardt cautioned the new commissioners not to hold any
direct personal discussion with the petitioners . The approaeh
of the ACC is for the betterment of Buffalo Grove, What is
practical is not always aesthetically pleasing. So the desire
is to compromise for the best possible effect. Suggestions
that may be a detriment should not be made.
Commissioner Kirby said it is alright'.to disagree to some extent
as to color or kinds of trees, etc ; but the best possible look
is what the commission is attempting to achieve. She would
very much like to get a list of trees and shrubs that grow well
in this area. ,
Mr. Saviano said Mr. Bill Davis , (forester has agreed to attend
all meetings whenever landscaping is presented .
Chairman Hardt said that Klehm' s has some pamphlets which are
available suggesting good species . He will get these.
7. Commissioner -Kirby moved tha meeting be adjourned . •
Chairman Hardt seconded the motion. The meeting was adjourned
at 9:45 P.m.
. Chairman Hardt will be out of town April 27, 1978 so he
appointed Commissioner Kirby acting chairman.
8. Discussion followed in which all perspective members were
accepted and it was decided that L. Paolillo, Jr. , Bud Gibbs,
and S. Brodie be recommended for three year terms and that
L. Berins and D . Knaak be recomended for two year terms .
Respectfully submitted,
Shirley Bate , Secretary
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s The undersigned hereby applies to the Village of
Buffalo Grove,Illinois,for a permit to erect the structure or port thereof herein described.and if granted the permit applied for shall comply with all
requirements of the Village Ordinances relating thereto and pay the fees required by such ordinances.No error or omission in either the plans or
application,whether said plans or application have been approved by the Building Official or not,shall permit or relieve the applicant from constructing
the work in any other manner than that provided for in the ordinance of this Village relating thereto.
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. The applicant of this Permit agrees to pay all Plan Review Fees whether they Melee a permit or not. .
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24 HOUR NOTICE IS REQUIRED ON ALL INSPECTIONS.
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219 Forest Place •
BRUCE 54 1-6022
Buffalo Grove,Illinois 60090 i
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- Attn: Rosemary Schrank PROPOSAL SUBMITTED TO PHONE i DATE
Heil,Hei1, Smart & Golee 866-7400 April 7, 1978JOB NAME
STREET
1515 Chicago Avenue Grove Apartments
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CITY, STATE AND ZIP CODE JOB LOCATION
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ARCHITECT
Evanston, Illinois 60201 825 Grove JOB PHONE
DATE OF PLANS
3/23 & 4/7/78 Plans revised 394-9070
We hereby submit specifications and estimates for:
2 (TWO) Exterior signs painted as instructed on
Sign #1 i" X 4' X 6' Dur-a-ply Material. (Single/Face
Sign #2
n X 18" X 24tl (Double/Face
This bid is for sign faces, 2"X4" Stringers & 4"X4" outdoor Pine
Posts all to be primed & finished in outdoor enamel.
(No installation) (Installation extra) .
. Sign #2
Sign #1 18" X 24" Double face
4' X 6' Single face Cost. .$120e00 t
Cost. . 220.00
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Total Cost for both signs $340.00
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Wp f rope hereby to furnish material and labor —complete in accordance with above specifications, for the sum
Three Hundred Forty & NO/100 , dollars($
340.00
Payment to be made as follows: THANK YOU.
Upon Completion
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All material is guaranteed to be as specified.All work to be completed in a workmanlike
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manner according to standard practices.Any alteration or deviation from above spec Signature bons involving extra costs will be executed only upon written orders,and will become an g
extra charge over and above the estimate.All agreements contingent upon strikes,raccide Note:This proposal may be
or delays beyond our control.Owner to carry fire,tornado and other necessary nsu withdrawn byto if not accepted within r'
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Our workers are fully covered by workmen's Compensation insurance.
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and conditions are satisfactory and are hereby accepted. You are authorized
to do the work as specified.Payment will be made as outlined above. Signature
I_ Date of Acceptance: