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1977-10-13 - Appearance Control Commission - Minutes • • VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE APPEARANCE CONTROL COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1977 1. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order by Acting Chairman Sherwin Rosenfeld at 7 :52 i'.M. Thursday, October 13, 1977 in the Village Hall . Roll call was as follows : PRESENT : Commissioners Hardt, Kirby, Bentley and 1 Rosenfeld. QUORUM PRESENT • 2 . WORKSHOP A recommendation was made to select Sherwin Rosenfeld the Chairman or the Appearance Control Commission based on his qualifications and agreement to accept the responsibilities . Commissioner Hardt moved that Sherwin Rosenfeld be made the Chairman of the Appearance Control Commission. Commissioner Bentley seconded the motion. Decision was unanimous . A possible meeting with the Zoning Board was discussed for Oct . 25. The minutes were tabled. (These items are not on the tape . ) 3. OLD BUSINESS • NON-CONFORMING SIGNS No answers to the letters sent to violaters have been received . A. discussion of the Vision Plate sign followed but because there was no representation of the company no decision was made . FIRST FEDERAL NIGHT DEPOSITORY The plate submitted being satisfactory, a motion to approve the Night Depository was made by Commissioner Bentley. It was second- ed by Commissioner Kirby. The vote was as follows : Bentley - Aye, Hardt - No, Rosenfeld - Aye , Kirby - Aye . The motion carried three ( 3) to one (1) . C.A. HEMPHILL - The Hermitage Place Trees Commissioner Rosenfeld reviewed the 1975 Recommendation concerning the placement of trees . The discussion that followed centered on the most suitable location, based upon the necessary maintenance of involved . The 1975 Recommendation was to place the trees on the owners lawns resulting in the property owners' responsibility to take proper care of the trees . 4 -' Chuck Mc Coy, Village Director of Public Works , and the owners have been said that it would be preferable to plant the trees on the parkway, resulting in the care and pruning can be done by the - Village . And Mr. Lyman (the developer) has stated that it would be easier to place them on the parkway. One objection to the park- way is that sometimes trees do not grow well in such narrow places , A decision must be made without delay or the trees will be planted. on the private property as the recommendation now stands. CommissionerBentley made the motion as follows : "I move that the Appearance Control Commission recommend to the Board of Trustees that should the Board approve the movement of the Heritage Place trees from the property • owners' lawns to the parkway; that consideration should be given to the fact that trees will have a tendency to die in the smaller space allowed, therefore a longer guarantee period should be secured from the developer to make up for this face . It should also be stated that this recommenda- tion is made without consideration of the appearance be- cause they have had no opportunity to review any plans or drawings ." Commissioner Hardt seconded the motion. The vote was as follows : Bentley - Aue , Rosenfled - Nay, Hardt - Aye, Kirby - Aye . The motion carried. • 4 . NEW BUSINESS BUFFALO GROVE PIZZA - Bob Rossa, owner present . The sign designating new name was put up without a permit . No plans had been submitted . Jerry Collins , Sign Co . Representative was not present . Commissioner Hardt moved to table the matter until the October 27, 1977 meeting when the representative from the sign co. must be present . Commissioner Bentley seconded the motion. Carried . DIPPY'S Mr. Heiman withdrew the request for the owner of Dippy' s to have a temporary mobile sign. PLAZA VERDE - Architectural Elevation and Landscaping -f Building H. Ronald Grace , Heiman and Grace Law Firm - La Salle Nat . Bank under Trust No. 40890, Plaza Verde - Phase Two (2) . • Sherwin Braun - Architect Plans were submitted Nov. 10, 1976 for overall design. Nov. 11, 1976 these plans were approved . Plans for Phase Two (2) now being sub- mitted are essentially identical to Phase One (1) . The lengthy dis • - cussion that followed has been broken down and reported under three headings : Architecture - Landscaping - Plaza Verde Sign. APPEARANCE CONTROL COMMISSION Oct. 13, 1977 Page 2 • ARCHITECTURE - Heating equipment was discussed in relation to the number of units which can be sold in groups and the adequacy of the thermostat controls , etc . Materials used are to be essentially the same if available, stated by the Architect who agreed that their intention and desire is to match the existing structures . There will be lighting and greenery at the rear elevation. Motion to recommend to the Village Board of Trustees approval of the Architecture of Stage Two(2) , Building H as follows : "The developer stipulates all material and architectural treatments thereof will be handled in essentially the same manner as all previous stages and has so stated that the signs and lighting for the phase will also be as essentially approved previously committed and built . Commissioner Hardt seconded the motion. Vote taken as follows : Hardt - No, Kirby - Aye, Rosenfled - Aye , Bently - Aye The motion carried three( 3) to one (1) . LANDSCAPING - Motion to approve the landscaping as shown with three ( 3) inch Hawthorn trees , gravel as presented on the specific plans was made by Com. Hardt . It was seconded by Com. Kirby. The vote was unanimous. E� SIGNS - A long discussion followed concerning the Plaza Verde Sign. It was stated that it would be the same size and will match the ex- sisting sign. It will be in the same location, the difference be- ing its computer abilities . It was generally agreed that the sign not be a "reader sign" but that it could be changed once every (12) twelve hours . The original plot plan presented Aug. 29, 1977 shows size and location previously approved. The Bronze paint is to match all other existing colors . The size of letters was discussed but since many different sizes are needed no stipulation is to be made . The sign is to be rented to Plaza Verde Tenants only with' 10% to be used for general good will community announcements , such as public services , A disconnect is to be mounted on the Plaza side, to be painted out to match . It will be landscaped as per original design. The sign poles are to be modified, sign area 120 sq . ft .gross as per exhibit attached . It is an America Sign Mark 50. Commissioner Hardt made the motion to accept the sign with the following stipulations : - 1. Sign never to be a "reader sign" - can be changed once every 12 hours . 2 . Two 10" signs per store allowed as originally submitted. 3. Bronze paint to match existing signs 4. Landscaping per original plans approved. 5. Disconnect mounted on Plaza side and painted as per color. 6. Sign to be rented to tenants:of Plaza Verde only. 7. Alpha Numerical letters . 8. Village to be allowed up to 10% use of sign. Commissioner Kirby seconded the motion. The vote was as follows : Bentley - Aye, Hardt - Aye , Kirby Aye, Rosenfeld - Nay. The motion carried three ( 3) to one (1) . APPEARANCE CONTROL COMMISSION Oct . 13, 1977 -- •- 'Page. 3 -: 10 :40 P.M. - Commissioner Bentley left meeting. HIGHLAND GROVE- Larry Kapust from Hoffman Group. Mr. Kapust first apologized to the board for changing their sign without a permit . It happened because they changed managment and the new marketing and sales people put up the new sign without the knowledge of the Hoffman Group. As soon as it was noticed it was taken down and replaced with a correct sign. Mr. Kapust is now requesting additional elevations and styling be- cause ofthe above change in management . Basic original material and design is being maintained but more color packages are being offered to the customers . A selection of 14 packages including 9 different trim colors . Colors are soft creamy blues , greys and creams (no white) and are co-ordinated . No random selections can be made . New shutters have been added . Major change is the elim- ination of aluminum to allow for variety of colors . . It was suggest- ed that Mr. Kapust bring in additional color packages for approval . Elevation was discussed . Gutters are being modified . Brick has been increased . Basically substitutions are being made . The plans have been modified, additions made and new plans should be submitted. Mr. Kapust maintained that he was not making basic changes in the ` -t four models . It was agreed that the drawings as modified by dis- cussed and dealt with now. The plans were reviewed and various features were explained or modifications suggested. The following stipulations were made :- 1. Panal or trim flush doors - no plain flush doors ; on garages . 2 . Maximum of 8" concrete foundation walls . 3. No wood toe boards . 4. Modified gutters . - II C(as specified below) Eliminate downspout . 5. Front elevations siding will follow steps . 6. Brick retaining wall should be 4 inches . 7 . All columns should have shoe at bottom. 8. All wood pre-primed and all wood trim should be primed or Pre-primed . Commissioner Rosenfled was desirous of completing this matter so he gave the model drawings numbers . I A,B,C,D, II A.B.C.D. III A.B.C.D. and IV A.B.C.D . . . . Other suggested modifications were discussed. Lengthly conversation continued. Motion was made by Commissioner Hardt according to above numbered stipulations . that all previous stipulations that were agreed to at the Board meeting be adhered to, that, recommended that the developer study Model IV A elevation with regard to water washing over living room windows , lastly that the Color Packages that the new developer wishes to add should be submitted at a later date . The motion was seconded by Commissioner Kirby. Vote was as follows : Kirby - Aye, Rosenfeld - Aye , Hardt- Aye . Motion unanimously carried . Commissioner Rosenfled made a motion that a recommendation be made to the Village Board that Model II for all elevations, that if the two story elevation appears on a corner lot facing the secondary street that new treatment be made by the addition of shuttered win- dows in either the living room or the dining room or that some ACC * October 13, 1977 - Page 4 I' S • . appropriate landscaping program be added by the developer. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hardt . The vote was as follows ; Rosenfeld - Aye , Hardt - Ayd, Kirby - Ayd. The motion carried uninaimously. • The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 ';P.M. Respectfully submitted, Shirley Sates Recording Secretary Note : These minutes were recorded from notes made at the meeting and the tape recording. The above secretary was not present. • { APPEARANCE CONTROL COMMISSION • • October 13, 1977 - - - - Page 5.