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Appearance Commission-
Village of Buffalo Grove , Ill.
Thurs . , Feb 8 , 1979
1 . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting to order on
Thurs . , Feb. 8, 1979 at 7 :44 P.h.
2 . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : Gibbs , i`ailill6, Holland ,Paolillo and
Hardt . Also Dominic Sayiano, Bldg.. Dept .
Absent : Kirby and Knaak ,
QUORUM PREoENT
3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes were tabled until a later date.
4 , OLD BUSINESS
a) Stan' s Standard Service Station
Arlington Hts . Rd . and Rt . #83
Ar. Rudd and. Stan Ozimek
Color rendition was presented and a new site plan ,,,as
used to show the location cf all signage . It was agreed
to reduce the height of the Pylon sign to 20 feet and it
will be 5 feet off the ground. The actual surface area
of the top oval/f.lame.!is 95 sq:ft . '' Calculated in a. full
rectangle it is 128 sq . ft but since it is that close,
the Commission agreed to accept it as presented.
The reader portion of the sign will have the price of
gasoline/type at all times . The bottom line will say
At Car Wash Island or abbreviation of same .
In view of the fact that there is a great improvement in
the total signage , Com . Hardt suggested a variance be
granted to allow the Logo (Standard ) .
Motion to approve the ground sign was made by Corn. Pao) i1.lo :
I move we accept the Standard Oil Pylon Sign
with the following stipulations :
1) Height not to exceed 20 feet .
2) Coloring as depicted or the color
rendition.
3) Lower illuminated sign have changeable
fifteen inch let -ers showing trice of
gasoline AT ALL TIMES.
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4) Below the price in changeable copy
will be the type of gas , Regular,
Diesel or Unleaded ; and the remainder
of that portion be unchangeable cony
reading "At Car Wash Isle" or similar
abbreviation
5) The base plate to be level with the
ground with possible plantings at the
base such as ground cover or fitzers .
Commissioner Gibbs seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote was taken and the 1'iotion-Passed unanimously.
Plans were signed filing.
The remainder of the signage was reviewed as to placement and
copy. Mr. Ozimek stated that all signs would be Changed at
the same time the new pylon sign is erected . He will change
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the color of the OPEN-CLOSED sign to .match .Car :Wash sign. He
agreed to remove the Car Wax sigu The building signs for the
Car Wash will match the Island. ID signs . Photos of all signs
were submitted . Exit sign from Car Wash will be blue plastic
letters. The site plan was marked with all stipulations .
Commissioner Gibbs made the following motion:
• I move we accept the accessory signage •
for the Standard Station as denoted on
the site plan with the further stipulation
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that the 2 pylon signs will be removed prior
to the installation of the new ground sign.
All excess signage will also be removed .
The sign across the street will also be
removed as soon as weather permits .
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The motion was seconded by Com . Holland.
Roll Call Vote was taken and the Motion Passed unanimously.
b) Standard Pacific - Highland Point, Unit 7
Tex Guggemos , President
Ch. Hardt excused himself from the discussion because
his company is doing the soil testing for the Village on
this projects . The Village is back-charging the developer
so therefore Mr. Hardt left to prevent any conflict of
interest . Com . Gibbs took the Chair.
Mr. Guggemos agreed to comply with the Forester's report
and replace the Maples with White Ash and SepOless Green
Ash. He noted that it would be difficult to comply with
• the request for. 50' intervals for the street trees because
of double driveways . Trees could end up on property lines
so he requested a 60 ft . minimum with the stipulotion that
they would work with the Public Works Dept .
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Com. Holland made a motion to arprove the Parkway Plantings
for Highland Point , Unit 7 . Location to he dptormined at
field time of planting . Trees will be 2 to 3 Caliper -
Unstaked . The Forester' s Report will be . followed by
replacement of the Sugar Maple and Red Maple with the Seed 1 Ass
Green Ash and White Ash . Distance will be as close to 50 ft .
apart as possible . Forester' s report to be included with the
plan for the file , Section 7 - Parkway Planting.
Com. Paolillo seconded the motion . Motion Passed .
Detention area was noted on the Forester' s report . He has
requested more than seeding, but Mr. Guggemos said "No" that
the Annexation Agreement specified Hydro seed with 15% of
land set aside . He would consider additional landscaping at
a later date and asked that the matter be left open. Agreed .
Mr. Hardt returned to the Chair.
c) Home Federal - Signage ; Phase Il of Villa Verde
Bud Mayo- Brim/Braun and. Mr.Sherwin Braun
Request for three ( 3) Wall Signs and two (2) low ground
signs at the entrance and exit of the Drive in facility.
Three wall signs will be Bronze with illuminated white
letters . Ground signs - Off White with red lit letters .
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The sign code was reviewed as to the lineal distances
required for signs and the signs requested are within •
these limits . Three signs are needed because of the
design of the building. Letters on wall signs will be
Helveitca style.. Total lineal footage of the 3 signs is
75 ft . maximum (approx. 22' x 24' ) with 212'total frontage.
The entrance-exit signs are dark with tubes inside to
light the letters . These are in accordance with the Code;
but the Commissioners felt the Home Federal name is un-
necessary. Mr. Braun agreed to delete the name from the
directional signs . and reduce the size to 12 sq . ft .
Ground cover will be planted at the base of the signs.
Com. Paolillo made the following motion:
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I move we approve the wall signs and the
directional signs for Home Federal Savings
as eubm1tzted with Vile stipulations :
a) Three wall signs as seen on the
site plan. Ivory - Back lit .
b) Two directional signs for the
Drive-In - Entrance and Exit only.
The name H.F.S. to be deleted and
the size to be 12 sq . ft . maximum;
and the same general format as
presented ; in the same location.
c) Opague baked enamel in metal housings .
Com. Holland seconded the motion.
Roll Call- Vote was Aye unanimously. Motion Passed .
Mr. Braun said the Eagle/Osco and other signs needind
repair would be fixed . APPEARANCE COMMISSION
b) FULTE - Formerly Green Knolls •
Daniel L. Star, Ron nellson - Project •Manager
Jim Hoskins - Sales Manager
Pulte Home Corporation, Ill. Div. qre Contract Purchers
of the Green Knolls subdivision. The proposed homes
were presented and a general description was given. They
have planned to build two houses each with 4 alternate front
elevations . One is a Split level,the other a Bi-level.
• 1. Beginning with the split level, some generalities were
discussed and details were noted as follows :
a. Roof vents are on the back only, any •
exposed will pa.inted out to match the
roof (black) .
b. Chimneys are B-vents and will be painted •
out to match the roof (black). -
It was noted that on' Aug. 25, 1978 the Green Knolls
development stipulated that all their chimneys and fire-
• places f: oulc. be masonary brick and would match the front
the houses ; and the chimney pots would be fabricated
brick housings and be painted out the color of the roof .
Ch. Hardt said that this would be discussed after the
presentation was finished .
• c . Shutters are to be aluminum, either
pre-finished or painted.
d . Gutters and Downspouts will match the
trim or the siding; also corner boards .
e . Facia - Wood , pine with two coats of paint .
f . Muttons - removable (possibly Dart of
. the windows later)
g. Garage doors - Paneled , not all white
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The color scheme packages were presented with a poesi.bie
variety of colors resulting in 300 different combinations .
Ch. Hardt asked if they would meet the Monotny Code in
B. G . and the Pulte people said their Monotny Code was
probably more stringent than B.G . 's but some of the
Commissioners felt that the yellow and green colors are
not compatible with Green 1Lnolls homes Earth tones .
It was discussed for a time and it was felt that 3 houses
are needed to meet the Monotny Code but it was felt that
considering the number of homes to be built and because
some Green Knoll homes are already built they could work
around the code . A checker board pattern could be used .
The AC .can recorr.mend to the Village Board that a 3rd
model be added.
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h. On Elevations 2 & 3 - the Posts are wood , they have
had no problem in the past with rotting .bases .
1 . Brick window and door sills with aluminum under
• the wooden kickboards on the doors .
The side and rear split-level elevations on corner lots
were discussed . The AC Commissioners asked that side
exposures which face the right of way have Shutters and
Muttons on the windows . No more than 8" of concrete can
be exposed .
The chimneys were again discussed . Pulte said that if
masonary is used the cost is about $3,000 extra as against
42,000 for pre-f abs inside and out .
Total area is between 2,000 and 2,200 square feet.
All trim will be painted to match the color package -
doors may match or be trim color.
Because the Pulte homes will be inter-developed with the
Green Knolls lots the schemes will be compatible, .stated
Mr. Star. However the AC Commissioners did not agree that
masonary and pre-fab chimneys were not compatible .
Also Mr. Star said that with only 39 lots to be developed
a third model would not be good . They were asked to surrl y
a p],at showing all the Green Knolls lots already sold .
After discussing the various difficulties between the two
sub-divisions , Mr. Bob Bogart , Trustee stepped forward to .
ask if the Village Board or the Planning Commission knew
of the project change? It is a major change and he sug-
gested tabling the presentation and referring it to the
Plan Commission first .
Ch. Hard.t ,asked for a motion to table, based upon the
problem of meeting the monotny code , colors being uncom-
patible with Green Knolls , masonry chimneys much different
than pre-fabs . Materials are needed to be reviewed and
a plot plan is required, to show swales and drainage.
Commissioner Holland made the motion to table . It was seconded
by Com . Paolillo . Roll Call Vote was Aye to table unanimously.
Chairman Hard.t apologized to the Pulte people for taking their
time and suggested Mr. Star call Mr. Balling to arrange further
details of procedure .
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DOMINICK'S FOOD STORE - LANDSCAPING
Representatives - Jim Coconas, Kenroy, Inc.
Ken Chapin - Landscape Architect
Mr. Coconas presented the proposed landscaping for the Four (2 )
Homeowners adjacent to the Dominick's portion of the Buffalo
Grove Mall. Due to the nine foot encroachment, the five parking
spaces proposed previously proposed have been eliminated. The
area in front of the fence (South Side) will be planted with
11 Norway Maples. To compensate for the encroachtaent the Home-
owners have signed agreements for additional landscaping on
their side of the fence as per the drawing submitted, for a
distance of 9 feet into their yards; Specifically Buckthorns,
Armour Maples and Norway Maples.
Mr. Chapin has met with Mr. Paige, Consultant Forester for B.G.
and some changes have been made in the plantings at the entry
ways. Plums will be used instead of the proposed trees.
Mr. Coconas presented the signed statements from the Homeowners
accepting the proposed trees and granting permission for work
men to go onto their property. A one year guarantee will be
given the Homeowners on the trees.
Mr. Hardt asked if the Homeowners were aware of the..height of
the building. Mr. Coconas answered that the height of the build-
ing is now up as high as it will go and the Homeowners are satis-
fied.
Mr, Gibbs asked what about large delivery trucks that will be
going in back close to the trees. Mr. Chapin answered that the
bank slopes upward and also that as the trees mature the trunk
is high enough for the branch structure to miss the top of any
trucks. Also in cases such as this the trucks themselves will
trim back the smaller limbs, but will do no. damage to the trees.
Mr. Chapin added that the plantings that were added t:d. the Home-
owners property were correlated with the existing shrubs.
Mr. Hardt commended Kenroy, Inc. on the plan and he said he
felt the plan solved the problem in the best possible way for
the benefit of all parties and the Village.
Concerning a parapet to screen the roof top units, Mr. Coconas
expressed concern that the Homeowners were already satisfied that
the wall is as high as it is supposed to be and he did not want
to have to go back and tell them a parapet would be added. He
prefers to paint out the roof top units as stipulated in previous
meetings. He repeated the consent agreements are signed.
Mr. Hardt said that from an aesthetic point of view a parapet is
the best and that it would have to extend far enough so that it
would block out the roof top units; as well as deaden noise.
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After some discussion, Mr. Bob Bogart, Trustee suggested the
Appearance Commission recommend the parapet to the Village
Board and if they chose to have it, it would be the responsibility
of the Board to inform the Homeowners and find out their desire.
In this way Kenroy, Inc. would not be responsible. The Homeowners
should have the opportunity to choose a higher wall or painting out
of the roof top units.
Mr. Hardt said this was an agreeable solution and added to the
. fact that the parapet is better looking and the trees will hide
it as they grow. He contended that all those people knew that
a shopping was located behind their homes. He asked for a motion.
Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we recommend approval of the landscaping for
the Buffer Zone relative th area between Dominick's
Food Store and th Homes to the North as presented with
the stipulation that:
a) The trees be of 22 caliper, and
we further recommend approval of the changes of
variety along' the entry way to Plums; and with the
Forester's recommendations ; and that the trees are
to be of 3i to 4 inch caliper along the right of ways.
Commissioner Paolollo seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote was taken and the Motion- Passed Unanimously.
A second motion was made by Commissioner Holland, as follows :
I move we recommend consideration of screening of
the roof top units on Dominick's Food Store
via either the construction of a parapet wall
which would extend from the West Building Line
to a point sufficiently East to prevent view from
the Eastern most point on the Eastern-most House
adjacent to the property;
or as an alternative at the descresion
:.of the Board, that the said roof top units be
painted out as per the previous minutes of the
Appearance Commission.
Commissioner Gibbs seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote was taken and the Motion Passed Unanimously.
5. ADJOURNMENT
APPEARANCE COMMISSION
The meeting was adjourned at 11 P.M. Feb. 8, 1979 - Page B
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Respectfully submitted, DRAFT COPY
Shirley Bates,, ecretary.
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