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1994-12-08 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE . ILLINOIS THURSDAY . DECEMBER 8 , 1994 I . CALL TO ORDER Chairman Richard Gordon called the Appearance Commission meeting to order at 7 : 39 P.M. on Thursday . December 8 , 1994 at the Village Hall , 50 Raupp Boulevard. II . ROLL CALL Commissioners Present : F. Weissman, A. Viehman, M. Cea , S. Trilling , R. Lundine and R. Gordon Commissioners Absent : None Bldg . Dept . Liaison: Edward Schar . Deputy Building Commissioner III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES November 10 , 1994 - Motion to approve as submitted was made by Com. Cea and seconded by Com. Weissman. Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman. Weissman. Cea . Lundine and Gordon NAY - None ABSTAIN - Trilling Motion Passed - 5 to O . 1 abstention. HIV. BUSINESS A. Computer Discount Warehouse . 1020 East Lake Cook Road Canopy Lighting with Egg Crate Ceiling . Removable Walls and Wall Signs Mr . Phil Olson. Canopy Headquarters . 610 Indian Hill Road . Deerfield . IL 60015 (948-8640 ) described the proposed illumination of the previously approved canopy and the suspended egg crate ceiling . He also requested the addition of removable grey vinyl walls with clear vinyl windows to the installed on aluminum moldings braced with aluminum uprights every ten feet ( 10 ' ) . There were no objections to the illumination and ceiling . The purpose of the walls is for the convenience of customers to protect them from winter weather . The canopy is behind the building and will not be seen from Lake-Cook Road . Com. Lundine objected to the wails because there is really no need for them and they will set a bad precedence . Com. Cea objected to the appearance because they will detract from the architecture of the building . Com. Viehman agreed that the wails were not aesthetically pleasing but they might be practical . He suggested using all clear vinyl instead of the solid grey . Mr . Olson had no objection to clear vinyl . In response to Com . Gordon' s concern that clear vinyl would soon be dirty and discolor . Mr . Olson said the windows could be made larger . The Commissioners discussed the wind factor , which could create a wind tunnel effect : , the appearance of a tent on the outside of the building ; and the fact that people must walk from their cars in the weather before they got to the canopy. Mr . Olson said CDW could always remove the walls if any of these problems occur . but a poll indicated 6 to 0 that the Commissioners would not recommend the proposed walls . Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the proposed lighting with the egg crate ceiling to be added to the previously approved canopy at the Computer Discount Warehouse , 1020 East Lake Cook Road . as submitted . Com. Lundine seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman. Weissman . Cea . Trilling . Lundine and Gordon NAY - None Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . Com. Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the removable vinyl walls for the previously approved canopy at the Computer Discount Warehouse , 1020 East Lake Cook Road . Com. Trilling seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote : AYE - None NAY - Viehman, Weissman . Cea . Trilling . Lundine and Gordon Motion DENIED. 6 to 0 . Mr . Olson was informed that this decision could be appealed to the Village Board . Written notice should be given to the Building Department and the item will be scheduled for the next Board meeting . If a different proposal is made . it should be submitted for Appearance Commission review . Wall Signs: Mr . Schar explained the procedure that has taken place . The Special Use Agreement for Computer Discount Warehouse has been amended by the Village Board of Trustees and the size of the proposed wall signs is acceptable. Computer Discount Warehouse has requested installation of two (2) 18" x 176" box signs on the elevations where the -current signs are now placed. The signs will consist of red letter- ing , reading Discount Showroom , on a white illuminated back- ground . The window letters have been removed . APPEARANCE COMMISSION December 8 . 1994 - Page Two Com . Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the two (2 ) box signs . requested by Computer Discount Warehouse at 1020 East Lake Cook Road , as submitted . The signs will have red letters on a white illuminated background and the box is to be painted to match the building . Com . Cea seconded the motion . Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman. Weissman . Cea . Trilling . Lundine and Gordon NAY - None Motion Passed - 6 to O . B. Max ' s Deli - 228 to 230 McHenry Road , Town Center Wall Sign - Recommendation for Variance Mr . Herman Helier . Speedy Sign-A-Rama , 80 W. Dundee Road . Buffalo Grove , IL 60089 ( 215-1535 ) and Mr . Marty Segal . representative of Max ' s Deli and agent for Melvin Simon Assoc . were present . Mr . Hefier explained the need for a variance of the B-5 Section of the Zoning Ordinance pertaining to Town Center The sign criteria limits wall signs to 75 square feet of the sign area . The sign band for Max ' s Deli is 67 feet in length but the configuration of the proposed corporate sign . includ- ing the tail of the letter M . when measured by Sign Code standards , equals 117 square feet . The sign is thirty feet (30 ' ) in length which meets the sign criteria and the height of the largest letter (M) is 27 inches , also within the sign criteria limitation of thirty inches (30" ) . The size of Deli & Restaurant is eighteen square feet ( 18 sf . ) so the sign is not exceptionally large . Sign-A-Rama has installed other signs at Town Center and is familiar with the procedures . Other Max ' s Delis are located at the Crossroads Center in Highland Park and at Clark & Belden in Chicago . This restau- rant will replace the Hav-A-Bashery and Yosel ' s at Town Center . The Commissioners had no objections to the proposed sign. Com. Lundine made a motion to recommend to the Zoning Board of Appeals and the Village Board that a variance be granted that would permit the Max ' s Deli & Restaurant sign as proposed for Town Center . with regard to the total square footage and height of letter M. Com. Weissman seconded the motion. Roil Cali Vote : AYE - Viehman . Weissman. Cea . Trilling . Lundine and Gordon NAY - None Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . APPEARANCE COMMISSION December 8 . 1994 - Page Three C . Grove Memorial Chapel - Buffalo Grove Road at Town Center Full Review: Architecture . Materials and Colors : Landscaping . Lighting and Sign Mr . and Mrs . H 1 . Maioriello . 1199 S . Arlington Heights Road . Elk Grove Village . Illinois 60007 ( 640-0566 ) made the presentation. The site of the proposed funeral home will be one ( 1 ) block north of Lake Cook Road . south of the Deerfield bakery . The building has been designed to compliment Deer- field ' s and St . Mary ' s Church. The materials will be similar to the existing building in Llk Grove Village . The basic material will be rock face concrete block . Final selection of materials has not been made , but similar samples were presented . The timber areas . between the windows , will be an exposed aggragate material applied to the concrete block . This material , made up of gravel and stones . will be a light tan. Brick , corbelled in and out . will surround the windows . The small 2 ' x 2 ' windows will have stained glass removable panels behind the clear glass . Mr . Maioriello makes these windows himself . Other areas . the lounge . office area and two ( 2) washrooms will have 2 ' x 4 ' casement windows . The window frames . fascia and gutters wiii be dark bronze aluminum. The shingles will be Timberline , which is a light brown. There is ornamental ironwork and a weathervane on the peak of the building . The timbers and front door wiii be stained cedar . The brick arches surrounding the front door will be corbelled . There will be skylights in the canopy and a high pressure sodium light under the canopy . The west elevation, facing Buffalo Grove Road , will have a twenty foot ( 20 ' ) area of block with landscaped screening . Com . Cea made a motion to recommend approval of the elevations and materials as submitted for Grove Memorial Chapel . Com. Viehman seconded the motion . Roll Call Vote : Al - Viehman . Weissman. Cea . Trilling . Lundine and Gordon NAY - None Motion Passed - 6 to 0 . APPEARANCE COMMISSION December 8 . 1994 - Page Four Later in the presentation. the alternate elevations were discussed . The Appearance Commissioners agreed the lower peaks make the long building look squatty and they preferred the primary design with the higher peaks . Mr . Maioriello was asked to submit a list of materials after the final selections are made and the colors are chosen. He agreed to do so . LANDSCAPING: The south lot line abuts two ( 2 ) houses and there are existing hedges that range from five feet ( 5 ' ) in height down to three ( 3) feet . Ray Rigsby ' s Review . dated December 8 . 1994 . recommends a fence or landscape screen along the south proper- ty line and ail arborvitae should have a minimum height of five feet ( 5 ' ) . Mr . Maiorieiio said that a fence was origin- ally proposed , but the resident . Mr . Firnbach would prefer landscaping so they have extended the arborvitae and propose an initial height of four to four and one half feet (4 ' to 4-1/2 ' because they grow fast and will soon be five feet ( 5 ' ) in height . They can easily be maintained at a height of five feet (5 ' ) and will be more attractive from Buffalo Grove Road . Mr . Rigsby' s Review also recommends additional varieties of deciduous trees , but Mr . Maiorieiio prefers small leaf locust trees with ground lighting . Ch. Gordon informed Mr . Maioriello that the Zoning Ordinance requires a six foot (6 ' ) screen between Residential and Business zones . This can be a fence or landscaping . Mr . Maiorieiio responded that the space between the existing houses and the chapel is only fifteen feet ( 15 ' ) and he would prefer to have a lower hedge because he would like to avoid the appearance of an alley. Mr . Schar asked if this had been discussed with the Plan Com- mission and if there was any variation recommended to the Village Board to permit a lower fence or hedge? Mr . Maioriello replied that the Firnbachs were present at the Plan Commission meeting and stated their preference for a hedge . The Plan Commission voted to recommend a variance permitting a five foot (5 ' ) hedge to be included in the Annexation Agreement . Mr . Schar said he has not seen the Annexation Agreement . but it would supercede the Zoning Ordinance . Mr . Maioriello said the trees along Buffalo Grove Road will be omitted because they could interfere with traffic . APPEARANCE COMMISSION December 8 . 1994 - Page Five After discussing the location of parkway trees in compliance with the Ordinance and several other issues that require more definite agreement with Mr . Rigsby , it was decided to Table the Landscaping until the Annexation Agreement can be reviewed and final plans are provided . Com . Cea made a motion to Table the Grove Memorial Chapel Landscaping . Com. Viehman seconded the motion. Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously . SIGN: A drawing and construction details of the existing Elk Grove Village sign were submitted . but it is a different design and the plans were not adequate for review at this time . Mr . Schar advised Mr . Maioriello that a variance would be required to permit a ground sign at the Town Center . Com. Viehman made a motion to Table the Sign. Com. Weissman seconded the motion. Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously. LIGHTING: The site lighting includes twelve foot ( 12 ' ) pole lights and wall mounted lights that will be black or painted brown. Depending on the final photometrics . the poles may be lower . Mr . Maioriello understands that light must not flow past the property line and said they will meet the code requirements . Some of the lights will be on timers and some will be on switches . Some security lighting is required at night . There will also be three (3 ) flood lights that will illuminate the front and sides of the building . Light will be thrown a distance of up to fifty feet ( 50 ' ) . The fixtures will be baffled so that light will not shine off the property and will not interfere with traffic . They will also help to minimize the length of the building more than a row of building mounted wall lights . Some of the Commissioners expressed concern that this type of lighting would create a Cinderella Castle affect . Mr . Schar quoted the B-5 Zoning Ordinance which states that exterior lighting shall enhance the building design and adjoining landscaping . APPEARANCE COMMISSION December 8 . 1994 - Page Six These flood lights were discussed at length. Mr . Maioriello said the flood lights could be shut off at 10 : 00 P.M. and agreed to adjust the lighting after installation , if necessary . Com . Viehman made a motion to approve the lighting for the Grove Memorial Chapel , as submitted . Com. Weissman seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman. Weissman and Lundine NAY - Gordon ABSTAIN - Cea and Trilling Motion Passed - 3 to 1 , with 2 abstentions . V. ANNOUNCEMENTS 1 . Mr . Schar said the new Sign Code was approved by the Village Board and it will go into effect on December 19 . 1994 . Com. Viehman suggested that Mr . Schar review the changes that have been made . The Commissioners agreed this would be helpful . 2 . Com . Lundine commended Mr . Schar for the quick action with regard to the painting of the back of the Covington Corporate Center ground sign on Dundee Road . `,,, 3 . The December 22 , 1994 Appearance Commission meeting will be cancelled because not enough Commissioners will be present to make up a quorum. VI . ADJOURNMENT Com. Weissman made a motion to adjourn. Com . Cea seconded the motion. Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously Ch. Gordon adjourned the meeting at 9 : 40 P.M. Respectfully submitted . Shirley Bates Recording Secretary sb APPEARANCE COMMISSION December 8 , 1994 - Page Seven