1994-10-20 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1994
SPECIAL MEETING
I . CALL TO ORDER
A Special Meeting held at the Alcott Community Center , 530 Bernard
Drive , was called to order at 7 : 40 P.M. by Chairman Richard Gordon
on Thursday, October 20, 1994 .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : A. Viehman, M. Cea, R. Lundine and
R. Gordon QUORUM.
Commissioners Absent : F. Weissman and S. Trilling
Bldg. Dept . Liaison: Edward Schar , Deputy Building Commissioner
Village Board Liaison: Jeffrey Braiman, Trustee
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 13 , 1994 - Tabled.
September 22 , 1994 - Remain Tabled.
IV. BUSINESS
A. Country Court Shopping Center - "For Lease" Sign
125 - 165 W. Dundee Road
Representative not present . Deferred until end of meeting.
B. Yaskawa - Ground Sign Face Change
1067 Johnson Drive (Formerly Johnson & Johnson)
Mr . Tony Pappalardo, Manager of Administration,
2942 Mac Arthur Boulevard, Northbrook , IL 60062-2028 made
described the proposed ground signs which will replace the
panels in the Johnson & Johnson ground signs .
The main double-faced identification sign will have a white
polyurethane background with black vinyl copy and corporate
blue logo. The sign is surrounded by evergreens .
The single faced non-illuminated directional sign will be
located on the west side of the driveway. The arrows indicate
the directions to the docks on the right and visitor parking
on the left . The aluminum panel will have black copy on a
white background. The frame and posts will be repainted black.
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
Yaskawa ground sign face changes as submitted.
Com. Cea seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Lundine , Cea , Viehman and Gordon
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0.
B. Town Place - Revised Elevations and Sign Face Changes :
Entrances on Route 83 and on Buffalo Grove Road
Mr . Brian Hoffman, V.P. of Red Seal Development Corporation,
425 Huehl Road, Building Eighteen, Northbrook, IL 60062 made
the presentation. Red Seal will develop the remaining 45 con-
dominiums and 35 townhomes .
1 . Revised Townhome Elevation
Mr . Hoffman said they have re-designed and enhanced the D-unit
of the townhomes (depicted on Page A-13) by adding a bay which
provides a sitting area in the master bedroom on the second
floor and a breakfast area in the kitchen on the first floor .
The revision improves the aesthetics of the exterior of Town
Place and greatly improves the interior of the units . Bays
are not atypical for the subdivision and they create symmetry
that is in keeping with the overall architectural character of
the units . The materials are consistent with the existing
buildings . The brick will be carried around the end of the
building to the bay.
The C-unit floor plan has also been changed. There was no
distinctive break between the breakfast room to the dining
room to the living room. The unit was not viable and needed
transitional space to distinguish the kitchen from the great
room. The master bedroom has been moved to the upstairs ,
the bathroom wall has been expanded and the roof lines have
been changed (depicted on Page A-11 ) . Two windows have been
added to the first floor . The unit , which was not marketable,
is now habitable.
Mr . Hoffman said the materials are the same, with the
exception of the chimney covering. It has been changed from
glue-on brick to dryvit. This was done after consultation
with the previous general contractor and the current
residents. The stick-on brick was inferior and did not
weather well . There were complaints of leaking and flashing
problems , so some of the chimney material on the condominium
building has been changed to drivit . Actually, the drivit is
a superior product and will be used to remedy any subsequent
problems to the previously buildings . It is used extensively.
Com. Viehman had no objection to the proposed use of drivit if
it improves the quality of the units . He recalled that there
was a slight architectural difference on the second Manchester
condominium building. The drivit will blend with the other
materials and will not be noticed.
Com. Cea made a motion to recommend approval of the elevation
changed as submitted for the Town Place Townhomes .
Com. Viehman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Lundine, Viehman, Cea and Gordon
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0.
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2 . Sign Face Changes
Mr . Hoffman described the proposed temporary construction
signs that will replace the two existing signs on Route 83
and Buffalo Grove Road. The signs will be repainted , using
simple basic colors - white background with black lettering,
red logo and accents .
They want to change the impression people have of Town Place
and they want to use the Red Seal logo for identification.
The sign basically includes the name - Town Place - and base
price of $159 ,900. The use of the price has been discussed
with their attorney and they have been advised that is not
considered false advertising. The sign will draw attention to
the project and they are prepared to handle purchasers who
come in to look at the models. They want to get the project
going before Thanksgiving.
Com. Lundine made a motion to recommend approval of the
repainting of the two existing Town Place temporary marketing
signs , on Route 83 and Buffalo Grove Road , as presented.
Com. Cea seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Viehman, Cea, Lundine and Gordon
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0.
Mr . Hoffman thanked the Village and the Appearance Commission
for scheduling this special meeting. It means a lot to them.
A. Country Court Shopping Center - "For Lease" Sign
125 - 165 W. Dundee Road
Mr . Schar informed the Commissioners that Mr . David Rhodes ,
Property Manager with Brian Properties , 2045 S. Arlington
Heights Road, Arlington Heights , IL 60004, had telephoned to
say he could not attend this meeting. He was present at the
meeting that was cancelled on October 13 , 1994 and had brought
a photograph of an identical sign that is located at Dunell
Center , west of Country Court . If the Commissioners have no
objections , a recommendation can be made at this time , or the
sign will be rescheduled for the next meeting, October 27th.
The 4' x 4' sign is divided and the background of the top half
would have a cream background with brown lettering and the
lower half would have a brown background with white copy. The
post would be brown. The sign would be located across from
the "Furs by Michael " building and installed within the grassy
area between the sidewalk and the parking lot .
The height of the post was not shown on the drawing, but it
should be at least four feet (4' ) to the bottom of the sign
to eliminate any line-of-sight problems. The height would be
subject to Village Engineer review and approval .
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There was a discussion about the duration of this type of sign
and Trustee Braiman made a suggestion that some time limita-
tion be included in the revised Sign Code. There are too many
"For Lease" signs on Dundee Road and Lake Cook Road.
One suggestion was to permit the signs for one ( 1 ) year with a
one ( 1 ) year extension. Then the owner would have to submit
the sign for Appearance Commission review and pay another
permit fee for an extension. The Building Department has no
record of what shopping center spaces are rented and how
many are available. There are always some vacant stores .
Trustee Braiman would not object if these signs were
eliminated from the Sign Code and only window signs were
permitted. There are many "For Rent" window signs now.
The Commissioners did not object to the Country Court sign.
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
"For Sale" sign as submitted for Country Court , with the
stipulation that the post be a maximum height of five feet
(5 ' ) to the bottom of the sign, subject to the Village
Engineer review and approval .
Com. Cea seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Lundine, Cea, Viehman and Gordon
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0.
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS - None.
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Viehman made a motion to adjourn.
Com. Cea seconded the motion.
Ch. Gordon adjourned the meeting at 8 :40 P.M.
Mr . Schar thanked the Commissioners for coming out on short notice.
Respectfully submitted,
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Shirley Bates
Recording Secretary
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