1994-04-14 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE . ILLINOIS
THURSDAY , APRIL 14 , 1994
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Eddie Larsen called the meeting to order at 7 : 37 P .M. on
Thursday . April 14 . 1994 at the Village Hail , 50 Raupp Boulevard .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : F . Weissman , R. Gordon , S . Trilling ,
R. Lundine and L . Larsen QUORUM.
Commissioners Absent : A. Viehman and M. Cea
Bldg . Dept . Liaison: Edward Schar . Deputy Building Commissioner
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of March 24 . 1994 were Tabled .
IV . BUSINESS
A. The Claremont Rehab and Living Center
Ground Sign at 150 North Weiland Road
Mr . George Woock , White Way Sign Company , 1317 Clybourn Avenue
Chicago , IL 60610 (312/642-6580) made the presentation .
Mr . Bruce J . Lederman, Vice President and General Counsel ;
and Ms . Judith A. Perry , Administrator of The Claremont Rehab
and Living Center . 150 N. Weiland Road . Buffalo Grove . IL
6008E (465-0200) were also present .
Mr . Woock described the proposed sign . When the sign was
reduced to 32 square feet to meet the Sign Code requirement .
the design was changed and the border shown on the drawing
will be eliminated . The aluminum face will be PMS 343 deep
green with routed out copy backed up with white neon . The
logo will be painted burgundy with white C and design that
will appear white at night . Landscaping at the base of the
sign was approved with the building plans .
Com. Lundine made a motion to recommend approval of the
The Claremont Rehab and Living Center ground sign as
submitted with the modifications specified and the
stipulation that an accurate drawing be submitted to the
Building Department with the permit application .
Com . Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Cali Vote : AYE - Weissman , Gordon, Trilling ,
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0
B. Rogers Centre For Commerce East
Ground Sign/Directory Sign on Barclay Boulevard
George Woock , White Way Sign Company . 1317 Clybourn Avenue
Chicago , IL 60610 ( 312/642-6580 ) made the presentation and
Ms . Kathi Rogers . represented Arthur J . Rogers & Company .
Mr . Woock presented a drawing showing the proposed double-
faced ground sign and the Avital ground sign which are located
in the Rogers Center for Commerce East . The tree on the
entry island will be transplanted to the berm next to the
island . The side of the sign facing north will identify the
Rogers Center For Commerce East . at the top and includes one
tenant : Arthur J . Rogers & Co . . Corporate Real Estate
Services , with additional copy reading : Models Available ,
Leasing & Management Agent on Site and the telephone number :
541-3600 .
The side of the sign facing south will be a non-illuminated
tenant identification directory . There is a similar sign
across the street in the Rogers Centre for Commerce .
The construction materials . size and shape of the two sins
is the same . The top is bronze aluminum with white copy and
it is illuminated . The Arthur 3 . Rogers copy and directory
on the south face will have a metal background with white
vinyl letters and wiii not be illuminated .
Ch . Larsen explained that the proposed copy actually makes the
sign a temporary sign because it contains leasing information.
Pursuant to Sign Code , Section 14 . 32 . 020 , a permit could only
be issued for a six ( 6 ) month period with two ( 2 ) extensions
permitted at the discretion of the administrator . Should the
property be sold or leased , the sign would have to be removed
within three (3) days .
Ch . Larsen described the sign as a permanent sign with
temporary copy. It would be more expensive to replace the
sign than it would be to have an identical sign that matches
the one across the street and have a plywood leasing sign with
the Arthur J . Rogers copy on it .
Ms . Rogers stated that they always expect to have spaces for
lease and they want the sign as submitted . She understood
that the sign might have to replaced in a year and a half .
The possibility of a variance was discussed and Ch. Larsen
expressed doubt that the ZBA would recommend in favor of a
variance . They abide by the Name and Nature limitation of
the Sign Code .
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Com . Trilling commented that it would look better to have
one nice ground sign . than to have a temporary plywood sign
in the same proximity . He recommended permitting the sign
with one ( 1 ) six month extension.
Com . Lundine confirmed the fact that Rogers Centre is
responsible for maintaining the tenant directory . so the
lettering will always be the same and he asked if there is
lighting in the vicinity for night visibility?
There is street lighting and they may add flood lights . The
copy should be visible from fifty feet ( 50 ' ) .
The logo color will be rust with a white R.
Com. Trilling made a motion to recommend approval of the
entryway sign by Rogers Centre For Commerce East , with the
directional sign on the south face and the word " Directory'
on the street end , as submitted . Approval for the north face
is recommended as a temporary sales and leasing sign pursuant
to Sign Code , Section 14 . 32 . 020 which stipulates the 6 month
time limitation and possibility of two ( 2 ) extensions of like
periods with Zoning Administrator approval .
Com . Lundine seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Weissman . Gordon . Trilling ,
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
C . Avital Technologies , Inc . - Recommendation for Variance
Ground Sign at 1535 Barclay Boulevard
Mr . George Woock , White Way Sign Company , 1317 Ciybourn Avenue
Chicago , IL 60610 ( 312/642-6580) made the presentation. He
submitted a more detailed drawing the described the construc-
tion of the sign. It will be black enamel with routed out
acrylic copy . The heavy bar above the name is a small channel
painted purple on the inside with purple neon . The ends are
packed so the neon does not flow out the ends . The bar stops
in the middle of the letter A . The balance of the lettering
is white .
In response to Ch. Larsen' s suggestion to paint the bar purple
so it could be seen during the day . Mr . Woock said he would
consult the client for a decision.
The double-faced , illuminated sign will be perpendicular to
the street . The base of the sign will be black and will be
located within a flower bed .
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Com . Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
design and construction of the Avital technologies , Inc .
ground sign as submitted .
Com . Gordon seconded the motion.
Roil Call Vote : AYE - Weissman . Gordon , Trilling .
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
D . Carlyle of Buffalo Grove - Prairie Road
Indian Creek of Buffalo Grove - Port Clinton Road
Off-Premise Directional Signs - Edward Schwartz & Company
Mr . Edward Schwartz , 1110 Lake Cook Road , Buffalo Grove , IL
60089 (537-2600) requested the addition of directional signs
that have been attached to the existing Carlyle and Indian
Creek subdivision development signs . The models are located
at Carlyle and the Indian Creek Sign directs customers there .
The Carlyle sign directs customers to the Indian Creek site .
The colors match the colors of the existing signs .
Because the existing signs are the maximum 120 square feet in
size , several options were discussed .
After some discussion , the signs were withdrawn for further
review and resubmittal .
Com . Gordon made a motion to Table the signs to permit
further review with the Building Department .
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Weissman , Gordon . Trilling .
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
E. Indian Creek - New Model and Additional Whitehall Elevations
Port Clinton and Prairie Roads - Edward Schwartz & Company
Mr . Edward Schwartz , 1110 Lake Cook Road , Buffalo Grove . IL
60089 (537-2600) requested approval of a new model , the Gran-
ville with three (3 ) elevations , and two additional elevations
of the existing Whitehall model . He said it is necessary to
add models to give the project fresh interest . The same color
packages and materials will be used for construction.
1 . The Granville has from 2 , 750 to 3 , 200 square feet and is
offered with several options including a bonus room on
the second floor . Ali three (3) elevations are different .
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2 . The Whitehall - Elevations A and B are now being offered
Elevations C and D are new . The Commissioners reviewed the
elevations relative to the Monotony Code and it was determined
that Elevations A and D are similar , so they could not be
constructed next to each other .
Com . Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
three (3 ) elevations of the new Granville Model as submitted
for Indian Creek ; and elevations C and D of the existing
Whitehall model at Indian Creek with the stipulation that
elevations A and D are considered to be similar .
Com . Gordon seconded the motion .
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Weissman . Gordon . Trilling ,
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
F . The Coves of Buffalo Grove
Park View Terrace - Edward Schwartz & Company
Mr . Edward Schwartz , 1110 Lake Cook Road , Buffalo Grove , IL
60089 (537-2600) described the site which is located next
to Frenchman ' s Cove on Dundee Road in Arlington Heights , IL.
He presented photographs of existing Frenchman' s Cove units .
The property is owned by the bank and is being purchased by
Mr . Schwartz . The Coves of Buffalo Grove will be south of the
bank , fronting on Park View Terrace .
Three buildings will be constructed . A/B units are stacked
flats with the A entering on the side as a ist floor unit
and the B entering on the front as a second floor unit .
1 . ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS :
The colors at Frenchman' s Cove are basically beige and earth-
tones , but the adjoining Covington Manor townhomes are white
and grey with red brick , so The Coves will have complimentary
colors :
a . Brick - Red
b . Roof - Grey shingles
c . Trim - White painted pine , not treated
d . Balconies - Wolmanized wood
e . Garage doors - Masonite with routed panels
with arched windows at the top
f . Aluminum siding - Greyish White
g . Windows - Wood with built in muntins and
insulated glass .
Storm windows are not provided , but would be
permitted with association approval .
h . Skylights - Optional ; permitted on rear or front
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There is a condominium association that will maintain the
property , including repainting of the wood . If any garage
doors need to be replaced , they will have to match the
existing
doors , even if they have to be specially made .
Com . Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of The Coves
of Buffalo Grove , elevations and materials , as submitted .
Com. Trilling seconded the motion .
Roil Call Vote : AYE - Weissman , Gordon . Trilling .
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
2 . LANDSCAPING:
a . Foundation Plantings - Mr . Schwartz referred to
the photographs of Frenchman ' s Cove and said The
Coves will have identical plantings .
The last paragraph of the Village Foresters Review . dated
April 13 , 1994 states :
"The Potentilla deciduous shrub selected to be planted in the
islands is a hardy shrub and may do well in this situation.
I would prefer to see something that will lay flat during the
winter to avoid extensive spring maintenance of these beds .
Perhaps Daylilly of Purpleleaf Wintercreeper would be more
suited to this environment . "
Mr . Schwartz did not agree with Mr . Rigsby ' s suggestion to
plant Daylillies , because they tend to be slippery. The
Potentillas are doing well at Frenchman' s Cove and they have
had no problems with them.
Com. Lundine commented that Covington Manor was represented
at the Plan Commission ' s public hearing . They have no
objection to the buildings , but are quite disturbed about
the density and about the use of asphalt for the driveways .
Com . Lundine displayed a colored diagram showing how the
driveways would appear . All the green areas are at the
rear of The Coves and the front would look very dark . The
trees shown on the landscape plan will not be full grown
for many years . He asked Mr . Schwartz to change the drive-
ways to concrete to match Covington Manor .
Mr . Schwartz responded that the cost of concrete would be
substantially higher . The developer of Covington Manor was
a concrete contractor so the cost was much less . He noted
that Com. Lundine ' s drawing appears much blacker that the
asphalt , which is more greyish in color .
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Ch. Larsen asked about the incline of the driveways . If there
is not much incline . the driveways would only be seen from
the second stories across the street . It would appear darker
after topping is applied , but it soon fades . Asphalt is a
legitimate building material accepted by the Village . The
Appearance Commission does not dictate what developer ' s can
do and cannot do . Concrete would necessitate higher prices .
Ch. Larsen said the minutes should reflect Com . Lundine ' s
strong objections to the asphalt driveways . He took a straw
poll of the Commissioner ' s opinions :
Com. Weissman : Preferred concrete . not just for appearance
but because it would require less maintenance
by the Homeowner ' s Association.
Com . Gordon: No preference , but he understands
Com . Lundine ' s concern .
Com . Trilling : No preference .
Com . Lundine : Preferred concrete .
Ch. Larsen: No preference . He said there are asphalt
driveways at the Crossings and he has only
sealed his every four or five years .
The poll indicated three (3 ) Commissioners had no preference
and two (2 ) Commissioners would prefer concrete driveways .
Com . Lundine asked why there is a walkway from the street to
the bank? People will use it to walk their dogs and there
is a problem because Covington Manor pet owners are not keep-
ing the area cleaned up .
Mr . Schar said that the police department should be called
to report problems with pets .
Mr . Schwartz stated that the walkway was included because it
was requested . He would be happy to remove it .
The Village Planner ' s memo . dated April 8 . 1994 and attached .
states that the Plan Commissions recommended approval
includes the stipulation that the landscaping along the east
and west property lines needs to be ' enhanced ' from what is
depicted on the Concept Landscape Plan dated March 23 , 1994 . "
Ch. Larsen noted that the Village Forester ' s Review . dated
April 13 , 1994 appears to incorporate the Plan Commission ' s
recommendation to continue the screening .
The park adjoining Fenchman ' s Cove is maintained by the
Buffalo Grove Park District even though it is located in
the Village of Arlington Heights
Mr . Schwartz agreed to confer with Mr . Rigsby and provide
whatever screening is necessary . They have added plantings
along driveways at Frenchman ' s Cove for privacy .
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The proposed six foot ( e ' ) stockade fence along the north
property line would not comply with the five foot ( 5 ' )
limitation of the Fence Code for separation of residential
property . The church and fire station are zoned Residential .
The bank is zoned Commercial and would qualify for an eight
foot (8 ' ) fence . Mr . Schwartz said he would reduce the height
of the fence to five feet (5 ' ) along the north property line .
The berms will meet the requirements of Mr . Richard Kuenkler ,
Village Engineer .
Com . Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the
Landscape Plan , as submitted for The Coves of Buffalo Grove ,
subject to Mr . Ray Rigsby ' s recommendations and stipulations
with the exception that the use of Potentilia will not be
changed . The petitioner has agreed to construct a five foot
(5 ' ) cedar stockade fence along the north property line .
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roil Cali Vote : AYE - Weissman . Gordon , Trilling ,
Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to U .
Mr . Schwartz thanked the Appearance Commission for their
consideration and approval of The Coves of Buffalo Grove .
N% ANNOUNCEMENTS
1 . Jaycee ' s Christmas tree trailer has been removed .
2 . The CDW temporary sign has been removed .
3 . A revised landscape plan , including additional plantings , was
submitted for American Needle and Novelty . (AC approval was
recommended in April 1992 ) . Mr . Rigsby approved the plan and
they have been put in the Appearance Commission file .
4 . The proposed Town Center theater will be reviewed by the AC
on April 28 , 1994 and this will be an important meeting .
5 . Ch. Larsen said April 28 , 1994 will be his last meeting .
He plans to resign with twelve years of service .
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn was made by Com . Weissman and seconded by
Com . Gordon.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 8 : 50 P . M .
Respectfully submitted ,
Shirley Ba-ar
Recording Secretary
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