1994-01-13 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE , ILLINOIS
THURSDAY , JANUARY 13 , 1994
I . CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Fred Weissman chaired the meeting until Ch . Eddie
Larsen arrived . Com . Weissman called the meeting to order at
7 : 45 P . M. on Thursday . January 13 , i994 at the Alcott Community
Center . 530 Bernard Drive .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : F . Weissman . A. Viehman , M . Cea .
S . Trilling and R. Lundine .
E . Larsen (arrived at 7 : 55 P .M . )
Commissioners Absent : R. Gordon
Bldg . Dept . Liaison: Edward Scnar , Deputy Building Commissioner
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 28 , 1993 - Motion to approve as submitted made by
Com . Lundine and seconded by Com . Viehman .
Voice Vote : AYE - Unanimously
Minutes of October 28 , 1993 approved and will be placed on file .
December 9 , 1993 - Motion to approve as submitted made by
Com . Viehman and seconded by Com . Lundine .
Roll Cali Vote : AYE - Viehman . Trilling ,
Lundine and Weissman
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Cea
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 , 1 abstention
Minutes of December 9 . 1993 approved and will be placed on file .
iV . BUSINESS
A . Hav-A-Bash-Ery/Advance Creative Products
Ground sign at 701 Dartmouth at Commerce Court
Ms . Laura Tinoco , Style Sign Company , 3265 S . State Street .
Lockport . IL 60441 ( 815 ) 722-7822 described the proposed
double-faced low monument sign to be located at the corner of
Dartmouth Lane and Lexington Drive . the sign face will be
sandblasted and the ends wiii be boxed-in . The Hav-A-Bash-Ery
portion of the sign wiii have hot pink copy on a white back-
ground . Colors of the ACP portion of the sign will be red and
black on a white background . The border and boxed-in plywood
base wiii be painted dark grey .
Concern was expressed by tne commissioners that the wood base .
in direct contact with tne ground , would deteriorate and the
paint would peel .
Ms . Tinoco explained that the wood would have a MDL finish
that is guaranteed for 10 years . She agreed to use aluminum
for the base and the ends of the sign .
The landlord will be responsible for installing landscaping
at the base of the sign in compliance with the Sign Code .
Com . Cea made a motion to recommend approval of the ground
sign submitted for Hav-A-Bash-Ery . 701 Dartmouth at the
Commerce Center , as presented with the stipulation that the
base and edges of the sign will be covered with aluminum .
Com . Lundine seconded the motion .
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman , Cea . Trilling .
Lundine and Weissman
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Larsen
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 . 1 abstention
Eddie Larsen chaired the rest of the meeting .
B. James Kaplan Companies . inc . - For Rent Sign
East of Entrance on Dundee Road at Plaza Verde
Ms . Michelle Kaboff . James Kaplan Companies , Inc . .
1750 North Clark Street . Chicago . IL 60614 ( 312 ) 664-3300
described the proposed For Rent sign. The single-faced sign
will be located east of the Burger King entrance at the west
end of Plaza Verde . It will match the existing signs on
Arlington Heights Road and at the east entrance on Dundee Rd .
The metal posts will be painted maroon to match the border .
Com . Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
"For Rent sign at Plaza Verde as presented by James Kaplan
Companies . Inc .
Com . Cea seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman . Weissman . Cea .
frilling , Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to O .
C . Seigle ' s Home Center - 225 Mc Henry Road
Ground Sign Face Change (Drive Through Lumber Yard)
Mr . Harry Seigle , President of Seigle ' s Home and Building
Centers . Inc . 1331 Davis Road . Elgin . IL 60123 and
Mr . Scott Deem , Sales Manager of the Buffalo Grove store
at 225 Mc Henry Road . (808-8900 ) were present .
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Mr . Seigle requested a change of copy on the existing sign
that was approved for the Drive Through Lumber Yard . It
would highlight the three ( 3 ) major products : Aristokraft
Cabinets , Marvin Windows and Kohler Plumbing Fixtures .
Colors are indicated on the diagram .
Ch. Larsen explained that the Sign Code prohibits advertising
of specific products on signs . Other petitioners have been
denied similar requests . ( i . e . Zimmerman' s True Value Paint -
paint would be allowed but not the brand name . ) The only way
the sign could be permitted would be it a variance was granted
by the Village Board of Trustees . The Appearance Commission
could recommend - in favor of or 'opposed to' the variance and
it is highly unlikely that the Board would grant a variance .
Mr . Seigle said they are familiar with the ordinance and made
the analogy to auto dealers naming of cars and the banks use
of Cash Station signs , etc . to advertise ATM machines .
Ch . Larsen affirmed that some businesses have been granted
variances , but he was not sure of the purposes given for the
requests . They could have been for additional signage .
The Appearance Commission has not recommended approval for
any advertising signs . Window signs are permitted to have
advertising as long as they do not cover more than 1 /3 of the
windows area .
Ch. Larsen suggested submitting something more generic or
directional with business hours .
Com . Weissman said they could change the signs to read :
Kitchen/Bath Cabinets or Windows or Plumbing Supplies , etc .
Mr . Seigle said he appreciated the advice .
Com . Larsen complemented Mr . Seigle on the store and said
the AC has no intention of being adversarial . No action was
taken.
D. The Wheatiands (Formerly Barclay Station) - Face Changes of
Existing Si is on Deerfield Road and Milwaukee Avenue
Mr . Ken Poulsen, Trammell Crow Residential , Suite 550 ,
9450 W . Bryn Mawr Avenue , Rosemont , IL 60018 (465-8585 )
requested a change of copy for two existing temporary
signs on the property . The name of the development has been
changed from Barclay Station to The Wheatiands . Now Leasing
will replace Leasing Spring of 1993 and a new phone number .
Materials will remain the same : Medium Blue Vinyl Letters
on a White Background . The posts are white . The letters
will be peeled off and new letters will be applied .
Ch. Larsen said that when the letters are removed they will
leave a residue that cannot be cleaned off and the changes
will be obvious .
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Ch. Larsen added that the Commission wants to avoid a patched
look and the sign would be permitted for six (6) months or
more .
Mr . Poulsen said they expect to be installing the permanent
signs within the next two months . They are applying for a
variance for one entrance sign and other new signs have been
approved . The temporary signs will be removed as soon as
the permanent signs are fabricated .
The Commissioners had less of a problem if the time is short .
but Ch. Larsen cautioned that when the vinyl letters are
removed with a heat gun, the residue will remain and the
colors will have faded . He asked Mr . Schar to inspect it .
Com . Lundine made a motion to recommend approval of the
sign face changes as requested for the Wheatlands , with
the stipulation that Mr . Schar inspect the sign to make
sure it is acceptable .
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman , Weissman, Cea ,
Trilling , Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
E . North Shore Gas/Gate Station - Ground Sign
1050 E. Lake Cook Road at Chevy Chase Business Park West
Mr . Ken Vanselow , Supervisory Engineer , North Shore Gas ,
3001 Grand Avenue , Waukegan, IL 60085 ( 336-7400 Ext . 311 )
described the proposed sign . it will be a non-illuminated
single-faced metal sign mounted on metal posts . The copy will
be blue and the metal will probably be unpainted .
Ch. Larsen doubted if the metal would be left unpainted and
speculated that the sign would be as depicted on the diagram ,
blue lettering on a white background .
Com. Cea made a motion to recommend approval of the sign as
presented by North Shore Gas for the B.G . Gate Station.
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roil Call Vote : AYE - Viehman , Weissman , Cea ,
Trilling . Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
F . Wallaby Station - Ground Sign
730 Hastings at Commerce Center
Mr . Randy Ziemann , Sign-A-Rama . 80 W . Dundee Road . Buffalo
Grove , IL 60089 ( 215-1535 ) described the proposed ground
sign. It will be 3 ' x 3 ' in compliance with the Zoning
Ordinance . Section i7 . 48 . 020 : Special Use (C . 14 . c . ) :
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The retail use does not require outside signs or storage .
other than an identification sign not exceeding ten ( 10)
square feet , and otherwise in accordance with the sign ordi-
nance of the Village . '
The double-faced sign will have green copy and border on a
white background . There will be a skirt around the posts .
Ch. Larsen informed Mr . Ziemann that the posts must be set
42" in the ground . not 24 as shown on the diagram.
Com . Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
ground sign as presented for Wallaby Station.
Com . Cea seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman . Weissman, Cea .
Trilling , Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
G. Telular - Ground Sign Face Change ( Formerly Hitachi )
920 Deerfield Parkway at Covington Corporate Center
Mr . Randy Podolsky , SIOR . President of Podolsky and Assoc . ,
One Westbrook Corporate Center , Suite 400 , Westchester , IL
(531-8200 ) made the presentation. Ms . Sheryl Eshkenazi ,
Director of Administration was also present .
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Mr . Podolsky described the proposed sign face change of the
former Hitachi ground sign. The existing face of the
internally illuminated ground sign will be replaced with new
routed aluminum faces . The drum of the sign wiii be repainted
blue (PMS 360) with blue copy and logo on white plexiglas .
Com . Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
face change of the Hitachi ground sign to Telular Corpor-
ation as submitted .
Com. Cea seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman . Weissman . Cea ,
Trilling , Lundine and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
V . ANNOUNCEMENTS
1 . The January 27 , 1994 Appearance Commission meeting will be
held at the Alcott Community Center .
2 . The BAGELS panels on The Plaza at Buffalo Grove ground signs
are a different color . Mr . Schar will inform the sign
contractor .
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3 . The Mobil station at Dundee and Buffalo Grove Road has
replaced the Dunkin' Donut sign with the original $1 . 00 -
Car Wash sign. It will not be necessary to submit it for
AC approval .
4 . Boston Chicken is open. There was a mobile billboard sign
parked in front over a weekend . but Mr . Schar had it removed .
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com . Viehman made a motion to adjourn.
Com . Cea seconded the motion.
Ch . Larsen adjourned the meeting at 8 : 37 P. M .
Respectfully submitted .
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Shirley Bates
Recording Secretary
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