1992-01-23 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE . ILLINOIS
THURSDAY . JANUARY 23 , 1992
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ed Larsen called the meeting to order at 7 : 45 P.M. on
Thursday . January 23 . 1992 at the Village Hall , 50 Raupp Boulevard .
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 12 , 1991 - Com. Viehman made a motion to approve as
submitted. Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon, Weissman, Viehman
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Larsen
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 . 1 abstention.
December 12 , 1992 minutes were approved and will be placed on file .
III . BUSINESS
A. Mobil Oil Signage - Dunkin' Donuts
Dundee Road and Buffalo Grove Road
Since Mobil will not be represented . Item A was discussed last .
B. Condeli Medical Building - Signage
150 Half DaY_Road
Representatives were Patricia Austin , V . P . of Outreach Services ;
Casey Frankiewicz , Legat Architects , 24 N . Chapel Street .
Waukegan, IL 60085 ; Ken Peterson from Condell Hospital : and
Ken Clays from Poblocki & Sons , Sign Contractor , P. O. Box 04665 ,
620 South First Street , Milwaukee , WI 53204-0665 .
1 . Building Siena e
Mr . Frankiewicz presented colored zerox copies of the signs
and described the construction specifications (attached) .
a . Signage on the north side of the building facing Rt . 22
will consist of extruded aluminum , non-illuminated 12'
letters stud mounted to the building . Color will be
deep green to match the aluminum window frames .
b . Signage on the front of the building facing Willow Pkwy.
will be on the canopy. Recessed light boxes were
described on Page Two of the specifications .
The letters will be punched face and will
appear to be white during the day with a silhouette
effect when illuminated at night .
2 . Ground signs
Main I . U. Sign on Route 22 , 27 feet from the south
property line and 28 feet off the west property line .
The double faced sign is 6 ' wide by 12 ' high and is
internally illuminated .
Background color - Pantone #468 C . Beige to match brick .
Green directional band - Pantone #350 C . The building is
not located on a corner and the main entrance is on Willow
parkway . There are vacant parcels to the west .
Condell Acute Care Center , Open 24 Hours - Red
Ail other lettering will appear to be black during the
day and white when illuminated at night .
Secondary directional sign at Willow Parkway will be
4 ' x 7 ' is internally illuminated and is similar to the
main identification sign.
Ch. Larsen commented that Pablocki & Sons manufactured similar
signs for the Village Campus and they do not transmit enough
light at night . He suggested adding more light .
There was a question about the number of signs that would be
permitted on the elevations of the building . After discussion
it was determined that the Acute Care Center and the Physicians/
Dental Offices are two separate tenants with a demising wall
between them. They have separate leases , therefore , two signs
should be permitted . Each physician also has their own lease .
There is no signage on the west elevation, but the building
does front on two dedicated right-of-ways , therefore , all the
signs were deemed to be permissible under the Sign Code .
Ch. Larsen observed that the ground sign on Route 22 could be
moved to the east in contemplation of additional ground signs
when the property to the west is developed . The Sign Code
requires a distance of 250 feet between ground signs , or a
variance is necessary. The Fire Station to the east could
also request a sign.
The representatives agreed to consider this information.
Com . Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the signage
requested for Condell Medical Building and Condell Acute Care
Center , as submitted , with the stipulation that they are
separately demised premises , as stated by the petitioners in
conformance with the requirements of the Sign Code for multiple
signs on one building .
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman , Weissman , Gordon, Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 .
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3 . Site Lighting Photometrics
Mr . Frankiewicz explained that the previously submitted
photometrics were not consistent with the scale of the
drawing . The poles are 25 feet in height . See letter and
exhibit dated December 16 , 1992 (attached) .
The bulbs have been changed from 400 watts to 250 watts .
The fixture would have a vertical lamp and there would be
no spillage off the property . The fixture will probably
be a spider type . but either of the two shown produce the
same photometric measurement . High pressure sodium lamps
that give an orange glow were proposed . Since there are
two parcels between the site and Woodland Commons , it was
agreed that the lights would not conflict with the shopping
center lights which were thought to be metal halide (white ) .
The fire station has wall pacs but no parking lot lights .
The street lights have metal halide (white) lamps .
The petitioners said they would give some consideration to
the light source options and inform the Building Department
of their decision.
Com . Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
lighting for the Condeil Medical Center as submitted .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Cali Vote : AYE - Viehman , Weissman , Gordon. Larsen
L NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 .
C. Children' s World , Busch Road and Route 83
Full Review: Elevations and Materials :
Landscaping . Lighting and Sig_na e
Representatives were Dean Kelley , Abbott Contractors , Inc . ,
1890 Techny Court , Northbrook , IL 60062 ; Lawrence Basil , A. I .A. .
Basil Architects . 181 Waukegan Road , Northfield , IL 60093 ;
Mark Polinko , A. S . L.A. . Landscape Architect . ILT Company Inc . .
21055 N. Weiland Road , Prairie View . IL 60069 : and
Laurie Daniels of Children ' s World .
Mr . Basil described the site plan. The parcel is triangular
shaped located on the south side of Busch Road at Route 83 .
A 1-story professional building will be constructed on the west
side of the site and Children' s World on the east side of the
site . Materials for both buildings will be identical using
masonry with asphalt shingled roofs . Both will have a colonial
flavor and will be a logical transition area for Route 83 .
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1 . MATERIALS . for both bui ldljgs :_
a . Asphalt Shingles - Burnt Sierra Blend , Heavy weight
�../ b . Brick - Sun Ray Driftwood Blend Valour
c . Combination fipon and drivet material - White
d . Pre-fabricated fipon collar - White
e . Shutters - Prefinished wood
f . Gutters and trim - Colonial white aluminum
g . Sliding windows will have clear glass
The Professional Building will have similar details . with
three (3) demising main sections with separate entrances
from the parking lot . The center section can be divided .
There were no questions and the Commissioners agreed with
Ch. Larsen' s comment that the buildings are very attractive .
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
Elevations and Materials for the Professional Office Building
and Children' s World as submitted .
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon. Weissman , Viehman , Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to O .
2 . LANDSCAPING:
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Mr . Polinko described the landscape plan. There are trees
existing on the property and every effort will be made to
save and maintain them , per Mr . Ray Rigsby' s recommendations
in the memo dated January 16 , 1992 . They will use snow
fencing , pruning of the canopies , fertilization of roots and
root trimming to preserve the trees within the parking
area . There will very little disturbance of most of the
trees because they are outside of the building line . This
area will be snow-fenced until the finish grading occurs
with the final landscaping is done .
The landscape plan is very open. The parking area , north
of Children' s World , has been screened with a low berm
planted with shade trees . A berm has also been used on the
south border to screen the adjacent property to the south.
Because of the limited space there is very tight planting of
the formal hedges . Dwarf plantings have been used because
of the low elevations of both buildings . The open area to
the west of the professional building permits larger the
plant material . They want some variety , so to compliment
the existing shade trees on the south and north, they will
transplant some of the existing ornamental trees .
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Mr . Rigsby memo states that 'parkway trees will also be
required along Busch Road and Route 83 . "
Mr . Polinko said it might be over-planted if trees are
added . He also expressed concern about safety and visibil-
ity as well as possible liability. The site does not allow
for background and foreground trees . There are also street
lights that dictate where trees can be planted . With the
expansion of Route 83 , existing parkway trees would have to
be moved , so it would be better to put them in later .
Ch. Larsen understood this reasoning and Trustee Marienthal
agreed that it should not be necessary to put in parkway
trees until after placement of the road has been determined .
He asked the developer to agree to have trees planted in the
future .
Ch. Larsen commented that this will become a major inter-
section and said he did not think any more trees are needed .
Some intersections are being blocked by the growing trees .
Com. Gordon observed that there will be a large park along
Route 83 and there should not be trees every forty feet
(40 ' ) along a park .
Mr . Polinko said they can move some of the shade trees on
the berm to permit additional evergreens , per Mr . Rigsby' s
recommendations .
They will substitute a 'Superform Maple" for the Acer Rubrum
"Red Sunset Maple . " He will discuss the Landscape Plan Re-
view with Mr . Rigsby and conform with Village requirements .
The playground fence will be a black vinyl , open cyclone .
Com. Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the Landscape
Plan for the Professional Building and Children' s World at Busch
Road and Route 83 as submitted , with the stipulation that the
recommendations made by Ray Rigsby are taken into consideration.
The Appearance Commission agrees with the petitioner that the
parkway trees on the Route 83 side . should be waived or post-
poned until such time as the intersection has been designed .
Petitioner agrees to add evergreens to the berms on the Busch
Road side and will substitute a "Superform Maple" for the
Acer Rubrum "Red Sunset ' Maple .
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman , Weissman, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 .
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3 . LIGHTING:
The ground light fixture and photometric plan were reviewed .
The fixture will be rectangular , with metal halide bulbs and
the poles will be 32 feet in height .
The lighting is for security and will not be left on all
night . The lights will be on a timer set to go off after
the Professional Building is closed.
Com. Weissman observed that there are homes , with second story
bedrooms , across the street and the poles may be too high.
Residents will be concerned with the loom.
Mr . Dean Kelley said the lights are directed downward and
there will be little spillage of light .
Ch. Larsen commented that there are existing street lights
and asked what the height of these poles would be?
Mr . Jim Kelly estimated the height of the street lights to be
24 ' to 28 ' and said he can confirm the height with the Village
Engineer , if necessary .
Mr . Kelley responded that if their lights were lower , they would
have to have additional lights . The plan has been designed to
have very little fluctuation in intensity which reduces the
amount of glare , or apparent brightness , that is seen.
Com. Weissman said the residents will probably get more light
from the street light on Brandywyn Lane , so these should be
all right .
Mr . Kelley agreed to work with the with Village Engineer with
regard to the height . because they want to be good neighbors .
Com. Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
Lighting Fixture and Plan submitted for the Professional
Building and Children' s World , with the stipulation that the
photometrics and the height of the poles be subject to the
Village Engineer ' s review and approval .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman , Weissman, Gordon , Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 .
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4 . SIGNAGE:
Ch. Larsen informed the petitioner that two ground signs would
be permitted , but the Sign Code requires them to be spaced 250 ' .
He suggested combining the signage into one ground sign located
near the entrance , but closer to the intersection .
Mr . Kelley said Children ' s World is proposing a semi-ground sign
only six feet ( 6 ' ) in height and eight feet (8 ' ) across . He
is aware of the 250 ' requirement and understands that they could
apply for a variance . He agreed to consider alternatives .
Com. Weissman made a motion to Table the signage for
Children' s World . Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously.
A. Mobil Oil Signage - Dunkin' Donuts
Dundee and Buffalo Grove Roads
Stuart Shore , Director of Marketing for Mobilmedia Corporation.
P.O. Box 592 , Park Forest , IL 60466 was not able to be present .
He was excused from coming by Frank Hruby , Director of Building
and Zoning , because the main purpose of the AC review is to
determine the need for a variance and make a recommendation to
the Village Board . Chairman Larsen concurred .
The petitioner is requesting a change of face on the pylon sign.
The bottom panel that now reads "Car Wash" will be changed to
\./ Dunkin' Donuts with Wash $1 . 00 below. Sign face changes are
permitted . The station will be selling Dunkin ' Donuts (not
making them) inside the Mobil Mart and they have been required
to apply for a new business license .
The petitioner is also requesting the addition of signs that
read "featuring Dunkin' Donuts" on the east (right ) and west
( left) elevations of the building . There are existing Pegasus
discs on these elevations that will be relocated . These discs
were deemed to be architectural features , not signs , when the
Appearance Commission reviewed the signage on May 30 , 1985 .
The Building Department has determined that the signage will
require a variance .
The business license , Mobil Mart/Dunkin' Donuts , qualifies the
signs to identify the name and nature of the business .
The signs were discussed and the Commissioners agreed with the
Building Department ' s interpretation that a variance would be
required for the Dunkin' Donuts sign on the west elevation
because it will face the car wash and not a right-of-way.
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Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend to the Village Board
approval of the Mobil Oil pylon sign face change at the corner
of Dundee and Buffalo Grove Roads that would permit the addition
of Dunkin' Donuts above WASH $1 . 00 ; and the addition of the
3 ' x 6 ' Dunkin' Donut sign on the east elevation as requested ;
with the added recommendation for a variance , if necessary . for
an identical 3 ' x 6 ' Dunkin' Donut sign on the west elevation.
Pegasus discs to be relocated as depicted on the drawing .
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon , Weissman. Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0.
V . ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Mr . Kelly reported that the background color of the Harris Bank
signs is dark bronze as recommended .
B. Com. Weissman informed Mr . Kelly that there are two towing signs
in the parkway at Spoerlein Farm that should be removed .
If the signs are illegal , Mr . Kelly will inform the management
company to have them removed.
ADJOURNMENT
Com . Viehman made a motion to adjourn.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 8 : 59 P.M.
Respectfully submitted ,
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Shirley Bates
Recording Secretary
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