1991-11-21 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
SPECIAL MEETING
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21 , 1991
I . CALL TO ORDER
Com. Charisse Bruno called the special meeting to order at 7 :40 P.M.
on Thursday, November 21 , 1991 .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : D. Ehrhardt , C. Bruno , R. Gordon,
F . Weissman, A. Viehman and E. Larsen
(Ch. Larsen arrived at 7 : 50 P.M. )
(Com. Weissman left at 8 : 15 P.M. )
Bldg . Dept . Liaison: James F . Kelly, Building Inspector
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 24 , 1991 - Com. Gordon made a motion to approve as submitted
Com. Viehman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Ehrhardt , Gordon and Viehman
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Bruno
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 , 1 abstention.
Minutes of October 24 , 1991 approved and will be placed on file .
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. Old Farm Village - Revised identification sign
Corner or Busch Road and Weiland Road
Presentation was made by Ed Handelman, President of the Home-
owners Association, %Highcrest Management , 755 Janes Avenue ,
Suite 3202 , Woodridge , IL 65017 . Attn: Ms . Maxine Lustig .
A new drawing has been submitted that includes colors . The
size has been reduced to 108-1/4" x 41-3/4 ' - totaling 31 . 45 sf
and now meets the 32 sf size limitation of Sign Code , Section
14 . 20 . 010 B - Multiple Family Identification signs . The height
has also been reduced to five feet (5 ' ) and meets the require-
ment of Sign Code, Section 14 . 20 .010 E. The required 25 ft .
setback will be met . The base of the sign will be landscaped.
There were no questions or objections .
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the revised
Old Farm Village identification sign as submitted.
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno . Weissman, Viehman
NAY - None
Motion passed - 4 to 0 .
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. Mid-America Real Estate Sign - Chase Plaza
Southeast corner of Lake Cook entrance
Ms . Peggy Sheehan, Mid-America Real Estate, Two Mid-America
Plaza, Suite 330 , Oak Brook Terrace , IL 60181 (954-7300) made
the presentation of the corporate sign they propose to erect at
the southeast corner of the Lake Cook entrance to Chase Plaza .
There are three (3) vacant stores on Arlington Heights Road and
people do not see them because of the hedges . The sign will
attract brokers scouting stores for retailers . The sign will
only be left in place until all the store are rented.
The 6 x 6 sf . sign will be double faced . Posts will be 4 feet ,
painted white and the sign will be set back ten feet . The Mid-
America colors are PMS 027C (Blue) and 362C (Green) on White
background with the telephone number background PMS 381C .
There were no questions or objections .
Com. Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the Mid-
America leasing sign for Chase Plaza as submitted , with the
stipulation that the poles are painted white .
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon, Weissman
and Viehman
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Larsen (arrived during discussion)
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
Ch. Ed Larsen chaired the remainder of the meeting .
B. First United Realty Sign for Williamsburg Estates
Old Arlington Heights Road
Ms . Sophia Braurer , First United Realty , 210 W. Northwest Hwy. ,
Arlington Heights , IL 60004 (253- 3800) was present . The sign
will be 4 ' x 8 ' and posts will be 1 ' painted white . It will
located in front of the model on Lot 13 at Williamsburg Estates
There were no questions or objections .
Com. Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
First United Realty sign as submitted.
Com . Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon, Weissman,
Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
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C. Hilton Garden Inn (Formerly Crest Hil )
Sign Face Changes
Presentation was made by Joseph Wilson, General Partner of
Hilton Garden Inn, 900 Lake Cook Road , B.G. , IL 60089 and
Robert Bogart , Federal Sign Corporation.
Mr . Bogart described the sign faces . The background will be
white with dark blue lettering , PMS 302 . The logo is a fading
out letter H and the color is Red , PMS 200 . The base will have
a texcote finish that resembles concrete - color tan.
Mr . Bogart asked for the option to paint the cabinet either
white or matching the dark blue. There were no objections .
Mr . Wilson said the design is the new corporate logo for all
Hilton Garden Inns .
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the sign
face changes as submitted for the Hilton Garden Inn.
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon, Weissman,
Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
D. Talman Home Federal Savings - Directional Sign Face Change
George Woock , White Way Sign and Maintenance Company,
1317 N. Clybourn Avenue , Chicago , IL 60610 (312) 642-6580
explained that the Talman Home Bank wants to add Cash Station
to the drive-in entrance sign. There is an existing wall sign.
There were no questions or objections .
Com. Bruno made a motion to recommend approval of the sign
face change of the Talman Home drive-in sign as submitted .
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon, Weissman,
Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
E. Harris Bank - Wall Signs
Buffalo Grove Road and Half Day Road
Presentation was made by George Woock , White Way Sign and
Maintenance Company , 1317 N. Clybourn Avenue , Chicago , IL
60610 (312) 642-6580 and Mr . Robert Sharp, Bank Officer .
Mr . Sharp explained that the original Harris Bank wall signs
were approved consisting of individual letters . Photographs of
the completed building were submitted. After the building was
constructed , the architect realized the two walls were
offices .
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It would not be possible to bring the electric service into the
building without marring the walls , so they are proposing box
signs with routed out copy. At night , the appearance will be
similar to the individual letters . The letters will be white
on a black background . The directional signs will have black
copy on white background .
Ch. Larsen observed that the black background would not be
compatible with the brown tones of the building and he suggest-
ed a bronze anodized aluminum background . This would also
match the window mullions . The metal edging on the entrance
signs could also be dark bronze anodized aluminium.
The Commissioners agreed with the changes and the representa-
tives did not object .
Com. Bruno made a motion to recommend approval of the Harris
Bank signs as changed from individual letters to box signs
with the stipulation that the background of the wall signs
and the metal edging on the three entrance signs will be dark
bronze anodized aluminum to match the window mullions .
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon, Weissman,
Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
F . De Grazia Company - Corporate Office and Bank Site
For Sale or Lease Sign - Rt . 83 and Buffalo Grove Road
Mr . Jack Metzger , Diamond Outdoor Advertising , 1200 E . Golf Rd.
P. O. Box 121 , Des Plaines , IL 60016 (827-1771 ) presented a
color rendering and described the sign and location. It will
be a single faced 10' x 12 ' sign. Colors will be #116 ivory
and #144 green with a stained cedar plywood base . It will be
situated per the site plan with a minimum setback of 14 feet
from each right-of-way. The background of the sign will be
painted grey. The back of the sign will be against bushes .
There were no questions or objections .
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the sign
as submitted by the De Grazia Company at Route 83 and Buffalo
Grove Road , subject to meeting the setback regulations .
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon, Weissman,
Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0 .
Com. Weissman left at 8 : 15 P.M. to attend Park Dist . meeting.
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G. Angus Chemical Company - Identification Sign
Postponed until after Item J .
H. Country Court - Awnings
Postponed until end of meeting.
I . Roslyn Woods - Prairie Road
Additional Models and Elevations
Presentation was made by Mr . Robert Nielsen. V. P. of Hoffman
Homes , 300 Park Blvd . , Suite 515 , Itasca , IL 60143 (250-7878) .
Mr . Neilsen reviewed the October 1990 submittal of 6 models on
44 lots , zoned R-4 , averaging 11 , 500 square feet . This is the
first project that includes a conservatory of nursery trees .
Of the 6 models , 4 have been successful but the 2 highest
priced models have not sold. ' They would like to delete models
65 and 67 ; and replace them with models 20 and 42 .
A site plan was presented and Mr . Nielsen explained how the
Buffalo Grove Monotony Code is met by pre-establishing models
on specific lots and so informing the marketing people.
Drawings of the six (6) previous models and elevations were
exhibited . Models 65 and 67 were removed and replaced with
models 20 and 42 , named The Cherbourg and The Beaumont . Each
of the new models has three (3) elevations . They range from
2 , 337 sq. ft . to 3 , 168 sq . ft .
After comparing the models and elevations , it was agreed that
there is no problem with the Monotony Code . Mr . Nielsen said
37 of the 44 lots have contracts , so only 7 lots are left .
As to the status of the project , construction of the houses is
underway , curbs will be put in this week and asphalt will be
poured next week .
Com. Bruno made a motion to recommend approval of Hoffman Homes
substitution of all elevations of Models 65 and 67 with Models
20 and 42 as submitted. Each model having 3 elevations .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Gordon,
Viehman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed 5 to 0 .
J. Grove Court - Ground Sign Face Change on Buffalo Grove Road
Mr . David Rhodes , Brian Properties , 2045 S. Arlington Hts. Rd. ,
Arlington Heights , IL 60006 (640-1500) described the
existing sign. It consists of two panels . The top one is 6 'x
10 ' reading: GROVE COURT. Below the main panel is a 3 'x 10 '
panel reading: Royal Home Entertainment Center , a business
that is no longer a tenant at Grove Court .
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Mr . Rhodes said the sign has been re-designed with the Grove
Court portion, 1/3 of the sign, to be 3 'x 10 ' and three lower
panels , each 2 ' x 10 ' , with two tenant names on each panel .
The sign will be exactly the same overall size . Two major
tenants are shown on the diagram and Mr . Rhodes doesn ' t know
what other tenants will be displayed.
Com . Gordon asked how important it is for tenants to be identi-
fied on such a sign. He is concerned with giving 2/3 of the
sign to 6 feature tenants . There is no actual major tenant .
Mr . Rhodes said such signs are helpful to the tenants . It is
difficult to design such a sign because they don' t actually
know how many tenants will be occupying the center . Stores can
lease more than one space.
Ch. Larsen commented that the steel structure is not being
changed so the AC cannot dictate the size of GROVE COURT.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to recommend approval of the
remodeling of the Grove Court ground sign as submitted with
no more than six tenant panels .
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Viehman, Larsen
NAY - Gordon
ABSTAIN - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 1 .
Com. Gordon said he is concerned because the tenant panels have
been made a larger portion of the sign than the center name .
G. Angus Chemical Company - 1400 E. Lake Cook Road
Identification Sign
John Johnson, C. Johnson Sign Company , 9615 Waveland Avenue ,
Franklin Park , IL 61030 presented a new diagram of the sign.
He showed a color rendering and described it . The background
will be cream with green lettering and Hamilton Partners
Development will be gold on green. The four foot (4 ' ) posts
will be cream to match the background . The sign will be
single-faced and will be situated on the planted berm on the
east side of the driveway parallel to Lake Cook Road . It will
meet the required twelve foot ( 12 ' ) setback .
There were no questions or objections .
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
Angus Chemical Company identification sign as submitted .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Gordon, Bruno ,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to O.
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H. Country Court - Dundee Road and Betty Drive
Review of Proposed Awnings
Mr . Kelly said Marshall Atlas , owner of Country Court and
president of Atlas Realty Company, 666 Vernon Avenue , Glencoe ,
IL 60022 , called to say he could not come to the meeting .
A color rendering of the Country Court Shopping Center . with a
sample of the proposed teal blue/green awning , was reviewed .
The identification signs above the awning are red.
Com. Gordon recalled that some of the detailing on the center
is a pastel blue and the proposed teal blue/green will not
blend.
Ch. Larsen commented that the awnings will improve the center .
The fabric must have UL listing.
The Commissioners were in general agreement that the awning
will improve the appearance of the center .
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to recommend approval of the
proposed awning for Country Court Shopping Center as submitted .
Com . Viehman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Ehrhardt , Bruno , Viehman and Larsen
NAY - Gordon
Motion Passed - 4 to 1 .
VI . ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr . Kelly said Frank Hruby , Director of Building and Zoning ,
is going to schedule a Sign Code Workshop for the purpose of
clarifying some of the ambiguous language . The AC commissioners
were asked to submit suggestions to Ed Schar , Deputy Building
Commissioner , for consideration.
VII . ADJOURNMENT
Com . Gordon made a motion to adjourn.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 9 :00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted ,
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Shirley Bates ,
Recording Secretary
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