1991-10-24 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE . ILLINOIS
THURSDAY . OCTOBER 24 . 1991
I . CALL TO ORDER
In the absence of Chairman Ed Larsen , Com . Dennis Ehrhardt called
the meeting to order at 7 : 38 P . M. on Thursday . October 24 . 1991 .
at the Village Hall . 50 Raupp Boulevard .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : D. Ehrhardt , R. Gordon , F . Weissman and
A. Viehman.
(Ch. Ed Larsen arrived at 8 : 20 P. M. )
Commissioners Absent : C . Bruno
Bldg . Dept . Liaison: James Kelly , Building Inspector
Village Board Liaison: John Marienthal , Trustee
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 10 , 1991 - Tabled until after business meeting .
IV. BUSINESS
A. Old Farm Village Identification Sign
Corner of Busch Road and Weiland Road
Maxine Lustig , High Crest Management , 7550 Janes Avd . .
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Suite 202 , Woodridge , IL 60517 ( 985-3303 ) , Managing Agent
for Old Farm Village . and made the presentation. She
explained Lexington Homes did not provide an identification
sign for OFV Villas and people cannot locate the entrance . „r,,
The sign and the site plan were reviewed . The sign is
55-3/4 inches in width by 12 feet in length and it is
73-1 /2 inches in height . The set back is not indicated on
the plat of survey .
The sign does not meet the requirements of Sign Code ,
Section 14 . 20 . 010 B. because it is over 32 square feet or
Section 14 . 20 . 010 E. because it is over 5 feet in height . '# ``'
The sign will also have to be set back 25 feet from each
property line . Also Sign Code , Section 14 . 20 . 070 . G> ..11111111
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states : " All ground signs are to be landscaped around the 0.01;
base . "
A color rendering was submitted , but the diagram is somewhat
different . The Country Villas is at the top of the sign and
the colors are not indicated by number .
Ms . Lustig said the black and white picture shows the
correct sign copy . She will contact the sign contractor ,
Robert Clauss , Sr . of Parvin-Clauss Sign Company .
1016 N . Ridge Avenue , Lombard . IL 60148 ( 495-2990 ) for
advice and have him provide the colors . She also agreed to
have some low bushes planted around the base .
Ch. Ehrhardt gave Ms . Lustig the option of Tabling the sign
until the next Appearance Commission meeting (Nov. 14th) or
applying for a variance . The application and $125 . 00 filing
fee must be submitted by Monday , October 28 , 1991 in order
to be placed on the next Zoning Board of Appeals agenda for
the meeting scheduled for Tuesday . November 19 , 1991 .
Ms . Lustig said she would prefer to apply for a variance .
Com . Gordon made the following motion:
I move we recommend to the Zoning Board of Appeals .
and the Village Board of Trustees , that the identifi-
cation sign, submitted for the Old Farm Village Country
Villas , be granted a variance for size and height .
Should the petitioner choose to modify the sign in
conformance with the Sign Code . it can be resubmitted
to the Appearance Commission on November 14 . 1991 .
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Weissman , Gordon and Ehrhardt
NAY - Viehman
Motion Passed - 3 to 1 .
B. Weidner Grove Apartments Entrance Sign - Stradford Circle
Ken Middleton . Diamond Signs . 1200 Golf Road , Des Plaines ,
(827-1771 ) made the presentation. He described the sign '>
and said he understood that the height 5 ' 6' would have to be
reduced to 5 feet so that it meets the Sign Code Requirement
The width of the sign face is 10 feet . with the stacked t.
6" x 6" posts measuring a foot on either side . the overall
width will be 12 feet . The sign is double-faced .
The background color of the sign will be Olympic Mahogany
Stain with a Beige Border and White Lettering .
The 44" x 10 ' sign face size would equal 36-1 /2 sq . ft . so -Ato we
Mr . Middleton agreed to reduce the height to 38 ' 6' making .
it exactly 32 sq . ft . 11A1Wr
The site plan . prepared by James C . Differding Landscape
Architect . 6722 N. Newgard Avenue . Chicago . IL 60626
(312) 973-0068 , shows the setback of the sign to be 10 feet
off the Weidner Road sidewalk and about 20 feet from the
Stradford Circle sidewalk .
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After Mr . Middleton was informed by Mr . Schar that the sign
would have to be setback 25 feet from each right-of-way , he
re-evaluated the property . lie submitted some pictures to
show that it would be difficult to meet the required setback
because of the retention tie wall located about 10 feet from
the building and approximately 24 feet from the sidewalk .
If the sign is placed 25 feet in from both sidewalks . the
retention wail which is on the west side of the sign will
block the west . The diagram shows landscaping , but only
the trees are existing . The visibility from the Stradford
Circle is excellent because the sign would be on a berm.
A single-faced sign would be seen by 95% of the traffic
coming into the project .
The Commissioners discussed the possibility that the sign
could meet the setback requirements . They suggested that
Mr . Middleton obtain an accurate plat of survey to deter-
mine if the setbacks can be met and if the sign would be
visible .
Ch . Ehrhardt asked Mr . Middleton if a variance has been
considered'
Mr . Middleton responded that the customer did not seem too
agreeable when a single faced sign was proposed . nor did it
sound like a variance was an option. He asked to have the
sign face approved as submitted with the stipulation that
placement must conform with the Sign Code restrictions .
Com. Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
Weidner Grove Apartments Entrance Sign as depicted ,
with modifications of the height to not exceed 5 feet .
and the sign face to be 38-i /2' x i0 ' totaling 32 sq . ft .
with the further requirement that the setback must be
in conformance with the zoning restriction of 25 feet .
A plat of survey is to be presented showing placement of
the sign and proposed landscaping .
Com . Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon . Weissman , Viehman. and
Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 .
C. Advantest America , Inc . Busch Parkway
Revised Parking Lot with Lighting
The site plan , showing the parking lot addition with the
location of lighting fixtures was provided by Thelander .
Nelson , and Associates . Inc . . 300 Knightsbridge Parkway .
Lincolnshire . IL 60069 . No representative was present ,
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Ch . Larsen arrived at 8 : 20 P . M. but did not take the chair .
Photometrics and a cut sheet of the 14 foot pole light
`./ fixture were provided , but it was not certain if the
fixtures matched the existing fixtures and if the HPS
light source would match the existing light source .
It was not specified whether there were additional wail
fixtures but it was surmised that wail pacs would match the
pole light fixtures . Bollards are shown along the walkway ,
but they may already be there .
Existing trees are to be relocated . but the new locations
are not shown and Ray Rigsby did not send a review.
Ch. Larsen commented that the building and lighting have
been approved so ail the lighting fixtures would have to
match. A recommendation can be made with this stipulation.
Com . Viehman made a motion to recommend approval of the
parking lot addition for Advantest America . Inc . as sub-
mitted with the provision that all lighting fixtures match
the existing fixtures already in place at the site .
Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman. Weissman . Gordon .
Larsen and Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to O .
D. Plaza Verde Revised Sign Criteria
Item removed from Agenda . No written request was submitted .
V . ANNOUNCEMENTS
Approval of Minutes :
Ch . Larsen made a motion to approve the October 10 , 1991 minutes
as submitted . Com . Viehman seconded the motion.
Roll Cali Vote : AYE - Viehman. Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Weissman and Ehrhardt
Motion Passed 3 to 0 . 2 abstentions
Com . Viehman made a motion to approve the Sept . 26 , 1991 minutes
as submitted . Com . Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon, Weissman , Viehman and Ehrhardt
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Larsen
Motion Passed - 4 to 0 . 1 abstention
Minutes of October 10 . 1991 and September 26 . 1991 were approved .
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Mr . Lee Szymborski , Assistant Village Manager , submitted a
written request for review of the Electronic Message Center
Re-Facing . The top portion of the sign will be changed to
Clayton Municipal Complex .
The Commissioners agreed that the word Complex is not the best
description of the Village Campus . Suggestions included :
1 . Clayton Center
2 . Clayton Municipal Campus
3 . Clayton Municipal Center
4 . Clayton Government Center
After discussion . Clayton Municipal Center was chosen to be the
best choice .
Com . Larsen made a motion to recommend approval of the new sign
face for the electronic message center as designed , with the
exception that the Village Board seriously consider using the
wording Clayton Municipal Center instead of Complex .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Viehman. Weissman. Gordon ,
Larsen and Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
TACO BELL has too many window signs . Mr . Kelly will advise .
WHITE HEN PANTRY - Duneli Center has removed sign face copy.
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com . Viehman made a motion to adjourn.
Ch . Ehrhardt adjourned the meeting at 8 : 40 P.M.
Respectfully submitted ,
Shirley Bates
Recording Secretary
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