1991-06-27 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE , ILLINOIS
THURSDAY , JUNE 27 , 1991
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ed Larsen called the meeting to order at 7 : 42 P. M. on
Thursday , June 27 , 1991 at the Village Hall , 50 Raupp Boulevard .
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present : C. Bruno , R. Gordon and E . Larsen . QUORUM.
Commissioners Absent : D. Ehrhardt , F . Weissman and A. Viehman
Bldg . Dept . Liaison: James Kelly , Building Inspector
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 13 , 1991 - Tabled . Commissioners not present who attended
IV. BUSINESS
Chatham East Condominiums - Sign Face Change
Mr . Bob Barrett , Co-owner , 661 Hapsfield Lane , B.G. IL 60089
(520-5868) explained that they have recently acquired the Chatham
Apartments and plan to convert them into condominiums within the
next 2 - 3 years . There is an existing 10 ' x 20 ' sign on the south
side of the property and they want to repaint it to announce the
change .
Colors - Background will be light mauve - Pantone 4995C
Copy - Darker mauve - Pantone 4995C
Grey - Pantone 431C
Ch. Larsen informed Mr . Barrett that the time limitation for sub-
division signs is 1 year with extensions granted by the Building
Department Administrator .
Com . Bruno made a motion to recommend approval of the
Chatham East Condominium sign as presented under
Sign Code , Section 14 . 32 . 010 .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon, Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
B. Strathmore Square Leasing Signs on
Dundee Road and Arlington Heights Road
Representative not present . Tabled until the end of meeting .
C . Rogers Center for Commerce - Directory Sign
Mr . Art Bierman, White Way Sign Company , 1317 Clybourn Avenue ,
Chicago , IL 60610 (312 ) 642-6580 described the 3 ' 1-1 /2" by
3 ' 10" sign that will be erected in the median at the entrance
of the property on Barclay Boulevard .
The sign will match the other Rogers Center signs with white
copy on bronzetone background and frame .
Com . Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the
Rogers Center Directory Sign as submitted subject to the
Building Department ' s for placement on the island.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Bruno , Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
D. Country Court - Leasing Sign on Dundee Road
Ms . Jackie Elliott , Leasing Agent for CB Commercial ,
100 Tri-State International , Suite 140 , Lincolnshire ,
IL 60069 (708) 948-5510) presented a new sign diagram.
Instead of using a free-standing sign. or adding a sign on
to the existing ground sign, they will be using the top
three spaces of the building identification sign. Approval
has been given by the landlord , Mr . Marshall Atlas .
The vinyl letters will be the same height as the existing
letters . The corporate colors are red (code 921 ) green,
(Pantone 3435) and white . The telephone number will be black .
Ch. Larsen asked if they only wanted the word "AVAILABLE" and
not Space Available?
Ms . Elliott did not object , but she said they want to keep
their signs simple and most of them signs do not even say
Available .
Ch. Larsen asked Ms . Elliott if CB Commercial has an office on
the premises? They do not , so he informed her that an off-
premise leasing sign is limited to a 6-month permit with two
extensions granted by the Building Department Administrator .
Ms . Elliott agreed .
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Com. Bruno made a motion to recommend approval of the temporary
Space Available leasing sign as submitted by CB Commercial for
the Country Court Shopping Center .
Com . Gordon seconded the motion .
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon . Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
E. Buffalo Grove Business Park - Lake Cook Road
Site Signage for Liberty Mutual - Building #8
Mr . John Johnson, C. Johnson Sign Co . , 9615 Waveland Avenue ,
Franklin Park , IL 60131 (678-2092) made the presentation.
Mr . Johnson said that a similar sign was approved in 1988 ,
but it was never built . The site is on Weidner Road to the
rear of the J . B. Winberie Restaurant and the Cresthil Motel .
The background of the 5 ' 11 " x 3 ' 8" sign will be granite with
5 ' gold letters . Posts will be 4" x 4" steel mounted in
cement . Front illumination will be used .
Com. Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the
Liberty Mutual Ground Sign as submitted for Buffalo Grove
Business Park - Building #8 .
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Bruno , Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
Ch. Larsen commented that the angle of the lighting for the
Federal Express ground shiny granite sign reflects the car
lights .
Mr . Johnson said they are considering using a flame treatment
on the granite that will dull the finish. The building is a
combination of both finishes . The AC expressed no preference .
F . Cajan Joe ' s - Wall Sign with Logo
Grove Court on Buffalo Grove Road
Mr . Daniel Rhodes , Brian Properties . Inc . , 2045 S. Arlington
Heights Road , Arlington Heights , IL 60006 (640-1500)
presented the sign and explained that they do not object to
the use of the chicken head on the sign. It is a nationally
advertised logo and the Sign Criteria specifies that AC
approval is required .
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Com . Bruno stated that one of her associate represents Brian
Properties and she recused herself from the discussion.
Mr . Rhodes informed the Commissioners that new sign criteria
will be submitted for review at the next AC meeting - 7/11/91 .
Com. Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the
Cajan Joe ' s sign with the chicken logo as submitted for
the Grove Court Shopping Center on Buffalo Grove Road .
Ch. Larsen seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Larsen and Gordon
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Bruno
Motion Passed - 2 to 0 , 1 abstention.
G. Emmerich Park East - Elevation Modification
Buffalo Grove Park District
Mr . Dale Ducommun, Supt . of Parks , B.C . Park District , recalled
that an expansion with a s3rond story was added to the original
building . i`hey want to add a second story to the original
building to make it more architecturally pleasing and they will
using the same materials , matching the roof lines , etc . The
addition will also increase storage space for the Buffalo Bills
football equipment for now and in the future .
On the first floor , they will also be widening the bathroom
doors to make them more handicap accessible .
Com. Bruno made a motion to recommend approval of the addition
to the Emmerich Park East Building as submitted .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Bruno , Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
B. Strathmore Square - Leasing Signs on
Dundee Road and Arlington Heights Road .
A representative did not arrive . Shirley Bates (Secretary)
informed the Commissioners that Mr . Michael Domke , Sidcor/
Real Estate , 4930 W. Oakton Street , Skokie , IL 60077 called
to say that after talking with Mr . Edward Schar about the
250 foot spacing regulation they will be able to locate the
sign on Arlington Heights Road 250 feet from the Mobil Sign
and they want to attach the second sign to the brick entrance
sign. He did not plan to make a presentation.
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Ch. Larsen recalled that the same group had a smaller sign for
a long time right in the middle of the block on Dundee Road .
He said the signs could be permitted for a six-month period
with 2 extensions , and the 250 foot spacing is not necessary.
He would prefer not to have any sign attached to the brick
pylon. The second sign could be on Dundee Road .
Com . Bruno and Com. Gordon agreed that a second ground sign
was preferable to attaching anything to the brick pylon sign.
Mr . Kelly expressed the same concern and said a separate sign
would have to comply with the 10 foot setback regulation.
Com. Gordon made a motion to recommend approval of the two
Vee 'd , 8 ' x 4 ' leasing signs . under Sign Code , Sec . 14 . 32 . 020 ,
as submitted by Sidcor for Strathmore Square Shopping Center
on Dundee Road and Arlington Heights Road , with the stipulation
that the posts and inside of the Vee be painted .
The signs are recommended per the site plan with no sign to
be attached to the existing brick pylon.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote : AYE - Gordon, Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr . Kelly had nothing to report .
Ch. Larsen commented that he saw• a drawing of the Woodland Commons
pylon signs . He was not present for the AC review when a recommen-
dation for a variance was made on April 11 , 1991 . The drawings he
saw were 20 feet in height and 12 feet wide . They would be much
larger than the Sign Code permits for the four locations as shown
on the site plan. Most of the sign base is brick and the square
footage of the signage would have to be calculated , but the signs
would be huge and would not conform with the size table on pg . 255 .
The petition for variance was cancelled by the Building Department
when Zale was able to meet the proper distance requirements , but
it was Ch. Larsen ' s opinion that a variance would be necessary .
Com . Gordon and Com . Bruno agreed the signs would be massive , but
they also agreed the design is attractive and is compatible with
the architecture of the Woodland Commons .
Mr . Kelly will report the discussion to Mr . Schar and the signs
will be reviewed by Staff .
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VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Bruno made a motion to adjourn.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 9 : 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted ,
.Shirley Bates ,
Recording Secretary
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