1983-12-08 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL.
THURS. , DEC. 8, 1983
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:39 P.M. on Thurs. , Dec. 8, 1983
at the Village Hall .
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: C. Cea, E. Larsen, L. Koclanis, D. Wehring and
D. Hardt. K. Krippes (7:50 P.M.)
Commissioners Absent: B. Gibbs
Building Dept. Liaison: Mr. Dominic J. Saviano, Jr. , Deputy Bldg. Com.
Village Board Liaison: Mr. Gary Glover, Trustee
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
November 10, 1983 - Motion to approve as submitted was made by Com. Koclanis
and seconded by Com. Wehring.
Roll Call Vote: Aye - Larsen, Wehring and Koclanis
Nay - None
Abstain - Cea and Hardt
IV. BUSINESS
A. Diamond Outdoor Advertising - Mr. Jack Metzger
1 . Spoerlein Farm - Mr. Metzger presented a new sign for the two
locations previously approved on Rt. 83; and one on Dundee Road.
The new sign faces will have Black lettering on a White background,
with an enlarged picture of the building in a wood frame. The frame
will be stained mahogany.
The two signs on Route 83 are 10' x 20' and the off-premise sign on
Dundee Road is 8' x 14' .
The Commissioners had no objection to the proposed sign face changes.
Com. Wehring made the following motion:
I move we approve the sign face changes
as submitted by Spoerlein Farm for the
two billboard signs on Route 83.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Larsen
Cea
Wehring
Hardt
Motion Passed 5 to 1 . Nay - None
Com. Larsen inquired about the letter of permission required to erect
the sign on the Happ Farm. Mr. Saviano this would be necessary before
the building permit is issued. There will be a 6 month time limit per
Section 14.020.080 B. Renewal of permit granted if condition in good.
Com. Wehring made a motion to approve the Off-premise sign for Spoer-
lein Farm as submitted; under Sec. 14.020.080 - B; on Dundee Road.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Larsen
Cea
Wehring
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 5 to 0. Abstain - Krippes
(Coma Krippes arrived at 7:50 P.M. )
2. Chatham - Sign Face Change
Mr. Metzger presented new signage for Chatham. The new owner
has changed the Logo. Colors of the new signs will be #301-
Pantone Blue Background with White lettering.
Sign designated A will say "Welcome" - Chatham In Buffalo Grove
with the Logo and phone number. It is 8' x 14' - Has been boxed.
Sign designated B will be eliminated at the parking lot.
Sign designated C will be a sandblasted sign on the Sales Office.
Com. Cea made the following motion:
I move we approve the 2 signs as submitted
for Chatham - A and C.
Sign designated B was eliminated.
Com. Wehring seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Krippes
Larsen
Koclanis
Wehring
Cea
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed - 6 to O.
B. Walgreens - Wag's Restaurant at The Grove - Lighting
1 . Mr. Douglas Schwartz, Architect presented the lighting fixtures to be
mounted on 30' poles in the Parking Lot; 400 watt high pressure sodium
lamps. The lights match the existing parking lot lights. One light
at the service area will have lower wattage because high intensity is
not needed.
Com. Cea made a motion to approve the parking lot lights as submitted
by Walgreens for the Wag's Restaurant at The Grove.
Com.Krippes seconded the motion. APPEARANCE COMMISSION
December 8, 1983 - Page Two
Wag's Free Standing Parking Lot Lights -
Roll Call Vote: Aye - Larsen
Koclanis
Wehring
Cea
Krippes
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to 0.
2. Roof Lights - Mr. Schwartz presented the roof lights for the
Wag's building at the Grove. There will be 9 fixtures mounted
on the roof. The lights that were approved are 150 watt high
pressure sodium, but they only come in 250 and 400 watts. A
request was made for 250 watt lamps. They will be the same as
the restaurant on Arlington Heights Road.
Commissioner Krippes made a motion to approve the change in the
Wag's roof lights from 150 watt to 250 watt lamps as requested.
Commissioner Wehring seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Larsen
Krippes
Cea
Wehring
Hardt
Nay None
Motion Passed 6 to 0.
3. Color Change of Front Door
An Orange door was approved, with a White sign. The new colors
scheme for Wag's will be Green and White. The color of the door
will now be a Forest Green- Pratt/Lambert #G 601 A.
Com. ,Koclanis made a motion to approve the color Forest Green -
instead of Orange for Wag's front door as proposed.
Core. Krippes seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Cea
Wehring
Koclanis
Larsen
Krippes
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to 0.
4. Mr. Schwartz submitted a new Landscaping Plan showing additional
plantings. He also stipulated that some of the existing plants
will be moved. Should any plants be damaged, they will be replaced.
The Plan was acceptable to the Appearance Commissioners as submitted.
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December 8, 1983 - Page Three
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C. Martin & Marbry Office Building - Full Review
Ms. Melissa Singer of Brim/Braun Architects made the presentation.
The Office Building will consist of 5 spaces, one major and four minor.
It will be located between the Schwinn dealer and St. Paul Federal with
the Martin & Marbry office at the rear of the building.
Materials: Brick - Two sizes, larger at the lower portion of building
and smaller at the top. Mortar is standard grey.
Brick is separated by a strip of precast concrete,
similiar to limestone.
Windows - Bronze storefront frames with bronze glazing.
Heating Units - For Martin & Marbry all mechanical units
will be in the basement area; and the other
four spaces will have 3 ft. high units on
roof behind a 2 ft. parapet.
Downspouts - Interior, with roof drains.
Soffits - White plaster with recessed lighting.
Parapet - 2 ft. over the minor units and 2'8" over M & M.
Sills - Window sills will be brick along the North side
and the back.
In front the brick will abut the window framing,
with an 18" band of finished concrete, to simulate
a limestone sill .
Doors - Solid, stained wood. All will be the same.
Parking - The four minor tenants will be professionals,
because there is not enough space for retail .
The building setback is 34 feet from Buffalo Grove Road,
and the roof top units will be centered so they will not
be seen. The building is about 300 feet from Dundee Road.
Com. Cea made the following motion:
I move we approve the Elevations, Architecture,
and Materials as stipulated in the discussion.
Com. Krippes seconded the motion. Com. Larsen said he felt the building
looked incomplete because the top of the parapet is 8 inches higher at
the one end. This was discussed and Ms. Singer said this was done to :_. ;
identify the anchor portion of the building. Cost is a factor. It was
noted that this portion will, be seen,from Dundee Road.
Com. Larsen suggested that the parapet could be turned back on the same
angle as the South so that it will not look so unfinished.
Ch. Hardt said that the building must be viewed in relation to the other
two buildings, and it should be compatible. The Commissioners were in-
structed to vote in this context. A straw poll indicated that it was
not an item of concern.
Roll Call Vote: Aye - Wehring, Koclanis, Larsen, Krippes,
Cea and Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to 0. APPEARANCE COMMISSION
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Landscaping - Ms. Singer indicated that the Honey Locust shown on the
Landscape Plan has been moved into the parkway to comply
with the Village Ordinance.
The landscaping has been designed to accent the front of the building.
The area will be sodded on Dundee Road. The Landscape budget is $4,000.
It was noted that the front (on Buffalo Grove Road) is very plain. The
brick will be seen. The foundation should be covered.
Ms. Singer proposed moving the hedge shown at the rear of the building
to the front. Instead of the Spirea, Sargent Juniper would be better.
The rear area would be sodded. She will discuss this for possible addition.
The Commission noted that all parkway plantings must meet the approval of
the Public Works Department. It was noted, that additional plantings may
be added to the approved plan, but nothing can be deleted.
The Dumpster area, at the rear of the building will have to be screened.
Ms. Singer agreed to a Board on Board, 5 ft. redwood fence stained to match
the doors. There will be a depressed curb at the disposal area.
The Transformer shown will be shielded by the existing landscaping at Shell .
Com. Wehring made the following motion:
I move we approve the Landscaping at Martin & Marbry
with the stipulation that 15 Sargent Junipers be moved
to the front of the building on Buffalo Grove Road;
The Skyline Honeylocust will be moved into the Parkway;
and the Dumpster will be screened, with a wood fence.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Larsen
Krippes
Wehring
Cea
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to 0.
Lighting is Bronze to match the Window frames. 'A' Fixtures will be located
at the ront and rear of the property. Poles will be 20 feet tall-bronze.
'B' Fixtures will be wall mounted at the Entryway on the West. The tenant
doorways will be illuminated with recessed soffit lights.
Com. Krippes made the following motion:
I move we approve the Lighting as submitted for
Martin & Marbry Office Building.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Larsen
Koclanis
Wehring
Krippes
Cea
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to O.
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Signage - The plans show three Martin & Marbry signs - South , East and
North Elevations. All lower case individual , internally
illuminated 18" letters.
Minor tenant signs will be lower case individual , internally
illuminated 14" letters.
No pylon sign will be requested.
On the North elevation, facing Dundee Road, the panel will be
recessed into the brick, the letters will be flush with the brick.
Ch. Hardt explained that a Sign Package should be developed for the building.
It was suggested that on the North Elevation, the name could read Martin &
Marbry Center. A Sign Package eliminates future problems with tenants. The
Sign Code would be more difficult to meet. Sign Packages allow for more
flexibility, and provides for the identification of businesses with long names,
or for businesses who want to use a logo, etc. There are extra benefits of
developing a Sign Package that is well done, specifies colors, and blends with
the building architecture. The Appearance Commission will compromise and make
concessions, such as allowing the additional Martin & Marbry signage.
Com. Cea made a motion to Table the Martin & Marbry signage.
Com. Larsen seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote was Aye Unanimously.
Another suggestion that was made was to put the individual letters on a race-
way, instead of mounting they to the building. There is less damage to the
surface when letters are changed.
D. Edward Schwartz & Co. - Full Review
Levitt's existing 19 Lots and Devonshire - 3 lots. Mr. Schwartz described
plans for 2 models to be erected on 2 of three Devonshire Lots remaining on
Devonshire Road. The first lot will serve as parking lot and Mr. Schwartz
requested permission to use a Sales Trailer during construction of the models.
Ch. Hardt noted that residents may object to a sales trailer in that location.
He also stated that in order to meet the Monotony Code, a Model B would have
to be built on that first lot, after the trailer is removed.
Mr. Schwartz presented the two models, each with three elevations Al , A2 and
A3; and Bl , 64 and 65. Model A will be built on the second lot and Model B
will be built on the third lot at the corner of Rt. 83 and Devonshire Road.
Color schemes were presented for the two models and other color schemes will
be brought in for approval at a later date.
Model A will have a brick front with aluminum siding on three sides - Beige.
Fireplaces will be brick. Shutters all around the house. Muttons are on
the windows in front and on any sides that face the street. The muttons
are removable. The trim color, front door and garage doors will be Beige.
Vinyl shutters will be Dark Brown. Gutters and downspouts are to be galva-
nized aluminum. B vents will be on the rear elevations wherever possible or
they will be painted out to match the roof color - Dark Brown.
The Commission felt that the new buildings will be compatible with the
existing Green Knolls houses. After reviewing the elevations, including
an A4, the Commission took a straw poll and concluded that for the purpose
of meeting the Monotony Code Elevations A 1 and 4 are the same; A 2 and
A 3 are to be considered different. After reviewing the elevations of the
B model , it was concluded that Elevations Bl , 64 and B5_will meet the
Monotony Code. A2 and 65 are Tudor style. "A" buildings are two-story.
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"B" Buildings are split levels. B-1 windows have brick sills and
will have removable muttons on front windows and on windows that face
secondary right-of-ways. This stipulation was made for all models and
all elevations.
B4 - Windows over garage project. There are wood panels under the
front picture window.
B5 - Two gables over the garage. Tudor model with rough sawn cedar
roof with stacatto board. Railings are wood. Gutters and returns are
horizontal metal . Wood panel on garage door. B vents will be painted
out if they are on front elevations.
A straw poll indicated that there are 3 distinct elevations, B-1 ,4 & 5.
Com. Koclanis expressed concern about having only 2 models from which
to meet the Monotony Code. Mr. Schwartz said they will market a former
Devonshire Model - The Berwyn, which has previously been approved.
Com. Cea made the following motion:
I move we approve the Architecture for
2 models: Al , A2, A3 and A4 (3 elevations-Al , A4 same.)
61 , 64, and 65 (3 elevations)
as presented by Edwartz Schwartz and Co.
to be constructed on 19 remaining Levitt
lots and on 3 remaining Devonshire lots.
Color schemes will be submitted later.
A 3rd model , The Berwyn will also be built
on these lots, to facilitate the Monotony Code.
Additional landscaping will be provided on
corner lots with blank side elevations.
Com. Wehring seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Larsen
Krippes
Cea
Wehring
Hardt
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Nay - None
Com. Larsen made the following motion:
I move we approve the Models proposed
by Edward Schwartz & Co. for two lots
at Devonshire. Models will be Al and
61 , with the stipulation that the 61
roof color will be changed from White
to Charcoal Grey.
Com. Koclanis seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Krippes
Cea
Wehring
Koclanis
Larsen
Hardt
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Nay - None
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LIGHTING
L/ Mr. Schwartz presented cut sheets showing the light fixtures.
Coach lights will be at the garage doors, and front doors.
The plain globe light will be used at the rear doors.
Com. Krippes made a motion to approve the lighting for the
Devonshire II models as presented.
Com. Wehring seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Larsen
Krippes
Ce a
Wehring
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to 0.
LANDSCAPING - Model Area
Mr. Schwartz requested a minimum amount of landscaping, the parkway
will be sodded, but the front and rear lawns will be seeded. One
parkway tree will be included. Mr. Schwartz stipulated that the
Annexation Agreement will be met. (Mr. Saviano will research this.)
The driveways will be concrete.
L/
Com. Wehring made the following motion:
I move we approve the Landscaping for the
Devonshire II Model Area as presented,
with the stipulation that the minimum amount
specified by the Annexation Agreement will
be met.
Com. Larsen seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis
Cea
Krippes
Larsen
Wehring
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 6 to 0.
SIGNAGE
Mr. Schwartz presented one sub-division sign, 8' 'x 15' - double-faced,
Beige with Dark Brown lettering. The name is Devonshire II .
There are also model signs, 2' x 3' in front of each model .
Ch. Hardt reviewed the Sign Code, Sub-division Signs-Sec. 14.32.010 -
Sub-section D which provides for signage that pertains only to the
property in a single sub-division. It was decided to approve the
signage subject to approval of the Administrator.
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Com. Larsen made the following motion:
I move we approve the double-faced sign as
requested by Devonshire 11 :
Colors to be Beige with Dark Brown lettering.
Size - 8' x 15' - not to exceed 20 feet in height.
The ends of the sign are to be boxed in.
Sign to be erected on 2 or 3 poles which are to
be painted out dark brown.
Sign to be approved by the administrator as per
Section 14.32-010 D.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Wehring
Koclanis
Larsen
Krippes
Cea
Motion Passed 5 to 1 . Nay - Hardt
Com. Larsen made the following motion:
I move we approve two Model Signs, to be 2' x 3' -
erected on 4" x 4" posts, painted dark brown.
Copy to be dark brown lettering on beige background,
to consist of a Typical Model Name with 2 lines of feature
copy: number of bedrooms, etc.
Devonshire II Information Center sign to be 2' x 3' -
Including hours that the office is open. Sign to be
attached to the Sales Trailer.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Wehring
Koclanis
c Larsen
Krippes
Cea
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Nay - Hardt
Ch. Hardt indicated that the reason he voted "Nay" to the two motions
above is that he does not feel that the intent of the Sign Code is met.
SALES TRAILER
Mr. Schwartz requested approval of a Sales Trailer, but he did not
submit any landscaping and the trailer is not to be skirted. The
lot will have a gravel parking lot. More complete plans are needed.
Com. Wehring made a motion to Table the Sales Trailer.
Com. Koclanis seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye Unanimously
The Commission suggested using the Sales Trailer on a temporary basis
until the Models are built; then using a garage for Sales.
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Trustee Gary Glover commented to Mr. Schwartz, that the Sales area
must be compatible with the existing neighborhood, and the parking
lot area must be marked out on a plat. The trailer should be landscaped.
E. Anden Corporation - Full Review
Mr. Jerry De Grazia made the presentation. Anden is proposing a new
development on Lexington Drive, between Armstrong and Lake/Cook Rd.
which is part of Northwood Grove Unit II. The front of the development
will face Lake/Cook Road. The property is part of an approved PUD
agreement. It was recently approved at a Public Hearing Plans are to
build 9 off-set buildings and 21 of the straight model .
Landscaping will be presented at a later date. Plans call for a private
gatehouse entrance with a guard. The entire property will
The streets will be private. The buildings are not coach houses. There
are no common elements, such as hallways or driveways. Garages are at-
tached and each unit has a private entrance. There are no units that
are on top of each other. Hopefully, the Sales Trailer will be opened
around January 17th.
Mr. De Grazia described the entrance signs proposed for the two monuments.
The name of the development is "Le Parc" which means The Park. The walls
are 6 feet high made of stucco. with concrete caps. At the ends are 8
foot brick piers. The letters will be 3 ft. aluminum letters, with baked
on color. A variation will be needed to allow these two wall signs.
ARCHITECTURE
The side and rear elevations of all the buildings are very similiar.
A special color co-odinator was secured to develop a very compatible
color scheme. A Color Group sheet was submitted, lising the 9 possible
color combinations. The building colors will only be repeated once in
every nine buildings. The materials have been selected to main low main-
tenance. This will result in savings for the Condominium Association.
The windows are thermo pacs with muttons. There are no exposed roof vents.
Vents are designed to go between the slopes on the buildings, but if they
are seen, they will be painted out.
There will be four models: 11 buildings will be A - 1 . Straight bldg.
10 buildings will be A - 2. Straight bldg.
5 buildings will be B - 1 . Off-set bldg.
4 buildings will be B - 2. Off-set bldg.
Basically the window treatments are different. On the B elevations, the
dormers have been eliminated and were replaced with a sky light.
The garage doors are steel . Fireplaces are optional . Window boxes are
redwood and should not deteriorate. Corner boards are aluminum. The
gutters/downspouts - White, 1-piece aluminum. Windows and patio doors
have wood trim.
Com. Cea made the following motion:
I move we approve the Materials, Architecture,
and Color combinations as presented by Anden
Corporation for 4-models, A-1 & 2, and B-1 & 2;
with the stipulations as per discussion.
Com. Larsen seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis, Larsen
Krippes, Cea & Hardt.
Com. Wehring felt the buildings are too identical . Nay - Wehring
Appearance Commission
Motion Passed 5 to 1 . Dec. 8, 1983 - Page Ten
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MODEL AREA: Entry monuments were discussed and because a variation
is necessary, Ch. Hardt agreed to review them and give
a recommendation to the Zoning Board. (Sec. 14.20.010- B & E.)
The need for a variation for two signs was discussed. Com. Larsen states
that if a temporary construction sign was requested, it could be two-faced.
The monuments are treated as signs, but are not actually signs but identi-
fication of the project.
Monuments are Cream color brick with stone caps. The entry-way building
is Cedar Shakes with a window.
A straw poll was taken: Com. Wehring: "likes the entryway and considers
the signage as identification"
Coma Koclanis : OK with variation
Com. Larsen: Pilaster height OK. Variation OK.
Com. Krippes: Excellent, recommends variation.
Com. Cea: OK with variation.
Com. Hardt: OK with variation.
Mr. Saviano said variations would be needed for two signs , the setback,
height of the brick columns and signs not flat against the wall .
Ch. Hardt made the following recommendation:
To: Zoning Board of Appeals and Village Board
The Appearance Commission unanimously recommends that
favorable consideration be given to any required
variations requested by Anden Corporation necessary to
construct entryway monuments with identification signs
on both monuments as depicted in Exhibit A, and includ-
ing the gatehouse.
Because of the question of required variances, is the
only reason that this Commission is not making a formal
motion of approval at this time.
Please consider the fact that the entire entry concept
will be maintained by the Homeowner's Association and
any problems related to these features will thereby be
eliminated.
The Model Area will be approved after the variations have been
granted. Pictures of the proposed trailer entrance were submitted.
Mr. De Grazia asked for approval so that materials can be ordered.
Signage and the Sales Office Area is to be presented at a later
date. The trailer will be approved for a period of 60 to 90 days,
while the model building is being constructed. Parking will be
next to the building. The parking area/landscaping layout also needed.
Com. Cea made the following motion:
I move we approve the architecture
for the proposed temporary sales
trailer for Anden, subject to the
petitioner submitting a general
parking layout and landscaping of
of the proposed trailer site.
Com. Wehring seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Koclanis, Larsen,
Krippes, Cea, Wehring and Hardt.
Nay - None APPEARANCE COMMISSION
Motion Passed 6 to 0. Dec. 8, 1983 - Page Eleven
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Com. Wehring made a motion to adjourn. Com. Koclanis seconded
`./ the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 12:30 A.M.
Resp c ully submitted,
4F-42;eea,i
Shirley Bates, Secretary
Appearance Commission
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