1983-01-13 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE IL.
THURS. , JAN. 13, 1983
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Com. Gibbs at 7:35 P.M. on Thursday,
Jan. 13, 1983 at the Village Hall .
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Gibbs, Cea, Krippes, Larsen and Ch. Hardt. QUORUM
Commissioners Absent: Zusel
Bldg. Dept. Liaison: Dominic J. Saviano, Deputy Bldg. Commissioner
Village Board Liaison: Charles Gerschefske, Trustee
III. BUSINESS
Business was conducted by Chairman Don Hardt. Minutes of 12/9/82 were omitted
from the Agenda and were approved at the end of the meeting.
A. Tao Yien Chinese Restaurant - Plaza Verde
Mr. Ron Guthrie, North Shore Sign Co. presented the sign and described
its construction. The letters will be #2283 - Red, all lighted.
This Red is not the color #2461 that is listed in the Sign Package for
Plaza Verde, but is has been approved by Mr. Mary Hymen. Com. , Larsen
said the only difference is that Red #2283 appears brighter when it is
lighted and is probably a more Chinese Red.
Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we approve the sign for the
Tao Yien Chinese Restaurant at Plaza
Verde as submitted:
1 . Color to be #2283 - Red
2. All letters to be lit by
neon tubing with dark bronze
trim caps and returns.
3. External disconnect to be
painted out to match the fascade.
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Larsen
Krippes
Gibbs
Cea
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 5 to 0.
B. World Wide Liquors, Grove Court
Mr. Ron Guthrie, North Shore Sign Co. and Owner, Mr. Kim presented
the sign. Letters to be Orange #2119 on Ivory #2146, Illuminated.
The sign meets the criteria of the Sign Package.
Com. Krippes objected to the size of the word LIQUORS, noting that is
is too large in comparison to other similiar signs.
Mr. Guthrie stated that being in competition with Mark Drugs, necessitates
letters that will be seen.
The business license is issued as Bush Beverages, Inc. doing business as
World Wide Liquors.
Ch. Hardt noted that the precedent has been set at the center by CARPETS
by Ray and Sons.
The other objection the Commissioners had was that there are already many
illuminated neon signs in the window. These are prohibited by the Sign
Package for that center and it will be necessary for them to be removed
before issuance of a permit.
Ch. Hardt stated that the owner of the center had made concessions when
the sign package was developed. The Village would have preferred to have
individual letters, but the owner and architect requested the larger can
type signs with flexibility in letters and copy within the cans. This
was granted with the stipulation that no lighted window signs would be
allowed.
Mr. Saviano said that he and Mr. Hruby, Bldg. Commissioner had inspected
the site and had agreed that the window signs would have to be removed
before a permit would be issued. Mr. Kim should have been informed by
the landlord of the provisions of the sign package.
Mr. Kim said he understood this, and asked if the sign package could be
changed. This can only be done if the owner makes such a request.
Mr. Guthrie suggested that the signs be removed from the window, when
the fascia sign is erected. They can legally be placed in the store.
Com. Larsen made the following motion:
I make a motion we approve the
World Wide Liquors sign as submitted;
per plan dated Dec. 7, 1982 with the
provision: that some other form of
temporary signage be granted the
petitioner until such time as the
sign can be installed.
Com. Gibbs seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Cea
Gibbs
Larsen
Nay - Krippes
Hardt
Ch. Hardt noted his- vote is predicated
on allowing illegal signage.
Motion Passed 3 to 2. APPEARANCE COMMISSION
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C. Chatham - Face Changes to signs on Dundee Road.
Ms. Diane Walker from Chatham explained how the signs were repainted
before they were approved by the Appearance Commission. It was an error
by the sign contractor who had them painted before approval .
The sign East of Buffalo Grove High School was cut down. The copy is the
same but reduced in size. The sign East of the entrance to Chatham
was changed, but the colors remained the same. The sign is 10' x 20' .
Ms. Walker said the art work was sent to Midwest with instructions not to
paint th signs before approval , but they were inadvertantly done.
A call w s made to Mr. Saviano informing they of the error and with an
apology.
Ch. Hardt asked for a motion per Sec. #14.32.010 for a period of 1 year,
with an extension request necessary one month prior to the expiration
date on the permit.
Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we approve the on-site construction
sign for Chatham Manor Homes, as submitted.
Com. Krippes seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Larsen
Krippes
Cea
Gibbs
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 5 to 0.
Com. Cea made the following motion:
I move we approve the Chatham Manor, Off-premise
sign East of Buffalo Grove High School , as
presented; as per Section 14.20.080 A with a
time limit of 6 months. Extension as per that
section: Reappearance to AC.
Com. Larsen seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Krippes
Cea
Gibbs
Larsen
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 5 to 0.
IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Approval of minutes from December 9, 1982. Motion to accept as presented
was made by Com. Krippes and seconded by Com. Gibbs.
L./ Roll Call Vote: Aye - Larsen Nay - None
Krippes
Gibbs Abstain - Cea
Dec. 9, 1982 minutes approved. Hardt APPEARANCE COMMISSION
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ANNOUNCEMENTS - continued
Mr. Saviano informed the AC that Mr. Pavetto, State Farm; had called to
say that all four stores at Buffalo Court will have identical signs on the
brick fascia. All lettering and colors will match the signs previously
approved. He asked if he can issue the permits without the signs being
approved by the AC?
Ch. Hardt said "Yes" as long as they meet the criteria of the sign package.
Mr. Saviano said Chatham will be coming in for approval of some signs for a
new development on the Spoerlein Farm. The pre-annexation agreement will
include 3 signs plus an entrance sign.
Com. Larsen asked Dominic to check the file concerning the new Frame Factory
sign background. It is white and it was approved with a grey background.
Ch. Hardt noted the different colors of the fascade at Strathmore Square.
Walgreen's has two colors of brown, the Dominick's portion is a different
shade, and the new section is also a different color. He asked that the
minutes be checked because he thought that Mr. Morelli had agreed to paint
the whole fascade so that it would match.
Ch. Hardt asked that a time be set for review of the Sign Code. A special
workshop will be scheduled. Papers will be notified.
Mr. Saviano said Ken Tucker is coming in for a change in The Grove pylon
that was approved for the retention area.
V. ADJOURNMENT
Ch. ,Hardt made a motion to adjourn. Com. Gibbs seconded the motion. The
meeting adjourned at 9:40 P.M.
Respec fully submitte
Shirley Bate cretary
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