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s' MINUTES
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September 25, 1975
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In the absence of Chairman Glauner, the meeting was opened by Commissioner Helms at
8:07 P.M. Comm. Lembo made a motion for Comm. Helms to act as Chairman for the meeting
and it was seconded by Gramm and passed 3-0.
Roll call was taken: Comets. Gramm, Helms and Lembo were present. Chairman Glauner,
Comms. Butler and Swanson were absent. Building Commissioner Dettmer was also present.
Dr. Harbans Singh Bhella attended his first meeting as a prospective commission member.
Dr. Bhella resides at 1425 Larchmont Drive, Buffalo Grove.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Lembo made a motion to approve the minutes of September 11, 1975 as submitted. Gramm
seconded and the motion passed 3-0.
SIGNS
VIP REALTY
Tom Durnan, Bud Berth, Ray Brosio
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Dettmer asked that this matter be tabled because he did not have the revised landscape
plan which nrosio said he thought had been submitted through Chairman Glauner. Brosio
explaired that the brick wall at the base of the sign had been approved at a previous
meeting and he felt it wasn't a very good idea both practically and aesthically. He said
the maintenance of the brick base would be great and suggested live screening at the
base of the sign and a more generous landscape plan than that already approved,as an. alterna-
tive to the approved plan.
There was discussion of why the wall would require extensive maintenance with Lembo stating
that proper building of the wall would preclude maintenance problems. Durnan added that
the wall would present a traffic visability problem for autos turning onto Dundee. Brosio
said that if the wall is required, the additional plantings he is proposing will have to
go as it won' t be economically feasible to do both. There was discussion as to what
exactly had been previously ap_roved by the commission and it was decided to review the
records to ascertain these facts.
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Gramm summarized that the VIP sign would have to be built and landscaped as approved, or
new drawings for the proposed changes would have to be submitted. Helms also requested
• Durnan to submit photos of the site. Lembo suggested that something be done to screen the
18" diameter concrete light bases.
Gramm made a motion to table the discussion of the sign approval and landscaping alternatives
for VIP, 301-5-7 Dundee Road, until further information is presented to the Commission.
Lembo seconded and the motion passed 3-0.
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L t}�BEBI:'I? 1171LTY INC. - VILLAGE PLAZA - DUNILE ROAD
Stan Lieberman
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Lieberman presented photos of the front of the center and a drawing of.the proposed pe
sign. The sign is blue, green and white with the colors to be used the tones us
portfolio shown the commission rather than those on the drawing of the sign, dout.
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r interior fluorescent lighting, 61 x 8' on two metal posts approximately 31 above grade.
The lettering 'Lieberman Realtors Inc. ' will be white.
Helms asked that the sien be made to appear attached to the setting rather than floating
in space. He also requested a site plan.
Gramm stated that to grant the use of anther sign aa•is being requested by Lieberman for
strictly advertising purposes would be against the general desires of the commission.
The commission had already granted the use of the project name 'Village Plaza' on the
brick retaining wall and individual signing by each tenant on the retail units. Gramm
felt that the use of this third sign was inappropriate and would not be able to vote for
passage on that basis.
Lembo said the project is very nice and has a subdued quality. He said he doesn't disagree
with the use of a sign here but does have great difficulty in seeing the relationship
between this particular sign and the total character of the project that has been developed.
- He noted that the height of the sign would appear to be above the highpoint on the building.
Lieberman said the sign is to the extreme west of the building and has met with the complete
approval of their architect.
Lieberman stated that the project has made a number of concessions to the commission in
maintaining the appearance of the center. In their opinion, the sign is low-profile, clean
and an asset to the center. As the major tenant and owner of the center, Lieberman said
he felt they had a right to the sign.
In response to a question from Lembo, Dettmer stated that the original plans as approved
by the Tian Commission and Board of Trustees showed a spot for the sign which is now being
requested and no other-criteria was set up regarding the sign.
Helms said he failed to get the connection between the theme of the architecture and the
theme of the sign. He said it is a good sign but felt it didn' t do 'anything for the center.
-Gramm made a motion to reject the sign as presented for the Village Plaza by Lieberman
Realty Inc. on the basis of inappropriateness of a second sign in that location. There was
no second.
After more discussion, Lembo made a motion to table the matter pending the receipt of
color samples and a statement from the architect with regard to the relationship of the
sign--colorwise and sizewise--to the entire center. Since three commission members con-
stituted a quorum at this meeting and the chairman cannot second a motion, Gramm stated
that he would second the motion only to conduct business and not to indicate that he
would be willing to compromise in his view that the sign should riot exist. The motion was
passed 3-0.
VILLAGE BAPTIST CHURCH - Landscape Plan
Paul Schroeder
Schroeder presented the landscape plan which had been designed by Klehms Nursery. He said
1 it was a simple plan because the church structure has a simple tone. Members of the church
+ . will be putting in the planting materials to limit landscaping costs.
Schroeder said they are not at this time changing the sign. When they do change it, will
appear before the Commission for approval.
Helms requested elevations of the building and compared them with the landscape plan. The
Commission reviewed the plan and the following changes were requested by the Commission
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7 ZONING BOARD OF 1 PL S
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November A; 1977
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representative of The Richards Group should be present at that time
ar.d that the residents of the surrounding townhomes should be notified
of the request for the extended special use permit as well as the
date of the hearing on same.
Commissioner Richards seconded the motion.
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A Roll Call Vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
4. Amendment of Zoning Ordinance 77--23 Relating to Rear end
Side Yard Requirements - Commissioner Quick moved for adoption of
the following motion: The Zcning Board of Appeals recommends that
Ordir_ nce 77-23 which relates to rear yard and side yard requirements
be amended as follows : Section 3 shall be amended to read as follows -
"This ordinance be in full force 2r!d effect from and after its
passage, approval and publication according to the law for all final
plats recorded after the effective date of this ordinance. " The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Schroeder.
A Roll Call Vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
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A discussion ensued where it was stressed that the Village Board
should be encouraged tc epedite this amendment at the earliest
possible time.
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5. Commit:ee Report on New Sign Ordinance - Commissioner Hefler
reported that he had located a publication which set forth a model
sign ordinance which could very well be used as a guide for a new
ordinance for the Village of Buffalo Grove. Discussion ensued and
it was agreed that Commissioner Hefler should obtain copies of said
publication for members of the commission so that the proposed model
can be studied in more detail.
6. Discussion
Discussion ensued relating to improved informational packets for
Commissioners before each hearing. It was suggested that as much
detailed information as possible should be accumulated by staff and
included in said packets. It was also suggested that those packets
be available in a mail box for the Board of Appeals Commissioners
to be located at the Village Hall, to enable the Commissioners to
pick up said material approximately a week before any pending hearing.
7. Adjournment
Business compi •t.ed, motion was made and seconded and passed to
adjourn. Time: 933 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Elliott D. Hartstein
Commis::icner and Acting Secretary,
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VILLAGE OF BUFF71O GROVE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
November 2', 1977
1. Call to Order
Chairman Heinrich called the meeting to order at 8 :11 p.m. on
November 15,1977 , at the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard,
Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
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2. Roll Call
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All commissioners were present with the exception of Michael Keal:•r.s.
Also present was Mr. Kenneth Bates, representing Community Development
Department, Village of Buffalo Grove.
3. Hearings
A. St. Mary' s Church, 75 N. Buffalo Grove Road - Fence Variation -
Mr. John Koch was sworn and stated he was representing the church and
requesting a Variation for construction of a 6 ' fence along New Lake
Cook Road which fronts the playground of the church )ocated at 50 N.
Buffalo Grove Road. Mr. Koch testified that the fence was just to run
along the Lake Cook portion of the property and will abut up against
the existing fences of the Village and the cemetery. He testified
further that a walkin gate which will merely be an opening in the
fence will be located on the West end of sA d fence where it abuts
the Village property. It was stated further that the proposed fence
would be located 18" back from the sidewalk that runs along Lake
Cook Road. It was stressed that the purpose of said fence is to
provide a safe playground environment in view of the increased
traffic that will be present or the new Lake Cook Road.
Commissioner Quick made a motion that the commission grant a variance
to St. Mary's Church for erection of a 6 ' chain link fence along Lake
Cook Road, said variance to be pursuant to Article 13, Section 4.1-2D
Commissioner Hefler seconded the maticn.
A Roll Call Vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
B. Extension of Special Use Permit for The Richards Group of
Illinois, Inc. , 1385 Bristol Lane - Chairman Heinrich noted for the
record that no one was present from The Richards Group to answer
questions relating to their request. It was also no'_ed that no
notice of the extension of the temporary use permit request was given
to the residents of the surrounding townhomes.
Commissioner Hefler moved that the matter be tabled and that a letter
be forwarded tc The Richards Group advising them that the matter would
be heard at the December meeting of the Board of Appeals, that a