1982-07-22 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL
THURS. , JULY 22, 1982
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting to order at 7:44 P.M. on Thursday,
July 22, 1982 at the Village Hall . He introduced Mr. Ed Larson, new Com.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: C. Zusel , K. Krippes, E. Larsen and D. Hardt. QUORUM
Commissioners Absent: B. Gibbs and C. Cea
Bldg. Department: Mr. Dominic Saviano, Deputy Bldg. Commissioner
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
July 8, 1982 minutes were postponed.
IV. BUSINESS - New
Ch. Hardt changed the order as listed on the Agenda and took the two signs
first.
B. Sweet '•n Counter
Mr. Joel Finfer, Owner and North Shore Sign Co. presented the sign
located at Plaza Verde next to Fotomat and behind Burger King.
Mr. Finfer asked that the color be changed to Red. The sign has been
approved by Mr. Hymen and red is also an approved color. There were no
objections from the Commission.
Com. Krippes made a motion to approve the sign presented by
Sweet 'n Counter as submitted - Color
to be Red.
Com. Zusel seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Zusel
Krippes
Larsen
Hardt
Motion Passed 4 to 0. Nay - None
C. Look 'n Hear - Grove Court
Arrow Sign Co. - Mr. Arthur A. Bierman presented the sign and noted
that the same sign is being used in the new location with the removal
of the word 'entertainment. ' The new store frontage is smaller than
the original location.
Chairman Hardt noted that the background of the sign looks the same in
the daylight, but at night the background behind the blue part looks
white and the background behind the black lettering looks ivory.
Mr. Bierman thought that this might be caused by the fact that the blue
letters were more translucent, while the black letters were opague.
Com. Larsen suggested that some of the lamps might be older than others
and could cause the difference.
Mr. Bierman agreed to change all the lamps when the sign is moved.
The Commission had no questions or objections.
Com. Larsen made the following motion:
I move we approve the sign presented by
Look 'n Hear A Panasonic Salon as submitted,
with the stipulation that all the lamps be
changed in an effort to make the background
the same color at night.
Com. Krippes seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Zusel
Krippes
Larsen
Hardt
Motion Passed 4 to 0. Nay - None
A. The Grove - Sign Package
Mr. Harold Eisenberg, Bernard J. Katz & Co. presented the draft of the
sign package and noted that it would apply to the tenant's signs only.
Because most of the storefronts are very narrow, signage has been limit-
ed to 70% of the storefront.
Single line copy will be preferred, no more than two lines. The bottom
of all signs will be on the same plane with the lettering centered.
After discussing the proposed design criteria, several changes were made
and Mr. Eisenberg asked that the approval be Tabled until new copies can
be drafted. The changes suggested were as follows:
D. 2. add "and approved by the Appearance Commission."
Wherever Lexan is used as reference - it should be changed to read:
Polycarbonate plastic, such as General Electric Co. Lexan; OR
Acrylic Plastic, such as Plexiglass; or an equivilant product.
F. General specifications:
2. No exposed lamps or exposed neon tubing will be permitted.
3. All signs and their installation shall comply with all local
building and electrical codes.
5. All conductors, transformers, and other equipment shall be
concealed.
7. Disconnects for Tenant signage will be located behind the sign
fascia, under (not above) soffit, etc.
On diagram describing the under canopy sign, omit the reference to the
triangular shape and "lexan" faces.
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Ch. Hardt noted, that when a sign package is well developed, permits
can be issued by the building department administer. Only when LOGOS
are presented will they be required to come in to the AC for approval .
There will be one corner store, and Mr. Eisenberg said should signage
be desired for the L/C wall , they will submit it to the AC. At present,
they want to leave it a brick wall .
Mr. Eisenberg said he would discuss the letter sizes with his architect
and submit limitations of letter size, style, color and background color.
Com. Larsen made a motion to Table Exhibit "E" - Design Criteria for
The Grove Center Tenan until the August 12, 1982 meeting.
Com. Krippes seconded the motion. Voice Vote was Aye Unanimously.
Mr. Eisenberg then presented a drawing of the proposed Grove pylon signs
to be located at the entranceway. He asked for suggestions and will pre-
sent a new design on August 12, 1982.
V. BUSINESS - Old
A. Strathmore Square (Buffalo Grove Mall )
Mr. Frank Morelli presented Sign Criteria For Tenant's Signs.
The Commission discussed the document and suggested several changes.
Signs will be mounted at the heights designated on Exhibit on Page 2.
LOCATION OF SIGNS —delete "storefront" and insert lineal storefront.
DESIGN REQUIREMENTS - Wording of signs shall be limited to the name of
the business extablishment and shall not include advertising. Logos
will be permitted at the discretion of the landlord and the approval of
the Appearance Commission.
All signs will be comprised of individually constructed and individually
mounted letters - on the fascia, using upper case standard Helvetica
medium letter styles with internal illumination; with dark bronze color
returns and trim moldings. All . letter faces will be White, acrylic
plastic material , such as Plexiglass.
Addition: Variations will be granted.
Paragraph 5: Sentence 3: delete "same material as the letters" and
insert "acrylic plastic material ."
Addition: Prior to issuance of permit, all Logos must come to the AC.
Com. Zusel made the following motion:
I move we approve the Sign Criteria
for Tenant's Signs for Strathmore
Square as presented with the changes
as stipulated by Mir. Frank Morelli .
Com. Krippes seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Zusel
Krippes
Larsen
Hardt
Motion Passed 4 to 0. Nay - None
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Com. Krippes made a motion to approve the Strathmore Square Pylon Sign
as submitted with the variation as granted by the Zoning Board of Appeals,
July 20, 1982.
Com. Zusel seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Zusel
Krippes
Hardt
Motion Passed 3 to 1 . Nay - Larsen
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Saviano explained that the owner of a new jewelry store at Plaza Verde
had misunderstood him about coming for signage approval in August and came
to this meeting. Since they are planning to open August 2, 1982, Mr. Saviano
asked that the sign be reviewed at this time. Ch. Hardt agreed.
C K JEWELRY Gifts - Aerial Sign Co. presented the sign with approval by
Mr. Hymen. It meets the sign criteria for Plaza Verde.
C J JEWELRY will be Orange Illuminated Letters and Gifts will be Orange, Non-
illuminated. Store is located where the Print Store used to be, facing East.
Ch. Hardt questioned whether Gifts is part of the business name? The owner,
Mrs. Kim was present and stated that Gifts is part of their name. This being
so, the sign meets the sign criteria and the AC had no objections.
Com. Krippes made the following motion:
I move we approve the sign presented by
C K JEWELERS - Gifts as submitted.
Com. Zusel seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Zusel
Krippes
Larsen
Hardt
Motion Passed 4 to 0. Nay - None
Com. Krippes asked what department would handle a landscaping problem?
An evergreen tree located at the Crossings on Freement Way is causing a
hazard to motorists. It is located on the parkway.
Ch. Hardt suggested she contact the Engineering Department or the Police
Department.
Mr. Saviano asked if there would be any objection to posting small signs at
Heritage Place's retention area - stating a warning to children. OK!
An announcement was made about the new date for the combined meeting of the
Plan Commission/Zoning Board of Appeals and Appearance Commission. It will
be August 4, 1982 at 7:30 P.M.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Com. Zusel made a motion to adjourn. Com. Larsen seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Shirley Bates, cretary
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