1982-04-22 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, Il.
L.J
THURS. , APRIL 22, 1982
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M. at the
Village Hall, on Thursday, April 22, 1982.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: D. Knaak, B. Gibbs, C. Zusel, K. Krippes,
L. Paolillo, D. Hardt
Commissioners Absent: C. Cea
Building Department: Dominic J. Saviano, Jr. , Deputy Building Comm.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Gibbs moved approval of the April 8, 1982 meeting minutes
as presented. Commissioner Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote:
Aye - Commissioners Knaak, Gibbs, Zusel, Krippes, Hardt
Nay - None
Abstain - Commissioner Paolillo
Minutes were approved and will be placed on file.
IV. BUSINESS
A. THE GROVE
Mr. Harold Eisenberg, Ken Tucker and Associates, stated they would like to
install a "V" shapped sign on the property located at the north east cor-
ner of Lake Cook Road and Route 83. It would state the name of the center
and name and telephone number of the developer along with listing the
two phases. Their plan has been approved and will be under construction
in two to three weeks on the first phase for the Jewel/Osco, ten thousand
square feet of shops and a restaurant. The initials GLA stand for Gross
Leasable Area. Their primary concern is for people to see their name
and phone number. The background of the sign will be beige and the
lettering would be green. They had originally thought about putting one
sign on Route 83 towards the north and another sign on Lake Cook Road
but now feel one sign will be sufficient. Mr. Wells stated the support
poles for the sign would be pressure treated creosol posts with an eight
inch diameter. If the Commission wished they could be coated, over the
creosol, with paint to match the sign background. The land for phase two
is under negotiation at present. Its ownership will change hands very
quickly. The transfer of the property is the only process that remains.
Chairman Hardt expressed his objection to the size of the sign, ten feet
by twenty feet or a total of two hundred square feet. He would prefer
a sign of one hundred twenty square feet. He also felt that if phase
two is still under negotiation that according to the ordinance they are
onlyallowed one sign. He then read Section 11+. 2.020page 2 8-6 of
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the sign code.
"Signs which exceed six square feet are not exempt and shall
be required to have a permit. The time limit for such signs
shall be for a six-month period or until property is sold or
leased. Extensions may be granted at the discretion of the
administrator. Such signs will be removed within three days
after property is sold or leased. "
Chairman Hardt did not like to see this big temporary sign up with only
one little unit still to be rented. He felt this type of sign was not
appropriate, even a one hundred twenty feet in size.
Mr. Eisenberg was not receptive to reducing the size of the sign.
Commissioner Paolillo made the followint motion:
I move that the Appearance Commission accept the sign as presented.
Commissioner Gibbs seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: Aye- None
Nay - Commissioners Knaak, Paolillo, Gibbs, Zusel,
Krippes, Hardt
The motion failed 6 - 0.
Chairman Hardt stated the Commission was in favor of a maximum size of
one hundred square feet. Had the developer been receptive to a reduced
size there may have been additional stipulations requested on the sign
that was submitted. Since the developer was not receptive to reducing
the sign the Commission voted negatively.
B. WOK INN
Mr. Chinn stated that business had picked up somewhat since they had put
in the sign. For eight years they have run a carry out business and now
for the last three months have opened up a restaurant. Without this sign
to bring in additional business they will have to close.
Chairman Hardt explained that this Commission is bound by the sign code.
They were aware of the hardship but could not take that into consideration
as much as the Village Board or the Zoning Board of Appeals could. He
suggested the Chinn's appeal to those boards.
Commissioner Knaak made the following motion:
I move that the Appearance Commission table the Wok Inn sign until
the May 13, 1982 meeting. At that time the Commission would like
Brian's Properties to appear, for the Dunell Shopping Center, the
purpose to set a sign package for the pylon sign. It is recommended
in the absence of Brian's Properties appearance at the May 13, 1982
meeting, the Commission will then consider the Wok Inn Restaurant
sign, consisting of two lines, to be white on black background,
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therefore setting the precedent for the sign. Mr. Paolillo seconded
the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Commissioners Knaak, Paolillo,
Gibbs, Zusel, Krippes, Hardt
Nay - None
Motion passed 6 - 0.
C. CHATHAM
Mr. Saviano stated that Mr. Happ had cancelled tonight. They will
be at the May 13, 1982 meeting.
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Ken Struck sent Chairman Hardt a letter requesting to be put on the
agenda for Windfield Estates subdivision.
Some discussion took place regarding lighting at the Schwaben Center
which is scheduled to be on the May 13, 1982 agenda.
The Commission reviewed the General Review outline as presented by
Mr. Gibbs. Chairman Hardt asked the Commissioners to review it and
bring their own version to the next meeting. Commissioner Knaak
stated he would have his restructured list ready for distribution at the
May 13, 1982 meeting and would volunteer to use it at the next architec-
tural review.
Chairman Hardt then gave Mr. Saviano a list of signs in the Village that
need action from the Public Works Building Department.
Mr. Saviano stated that Kohls will be taken over by Eagle. They will
be coming in with a sign package.
A discussion then commenced as to the proper and correct procedure
when interrogating petitioners appearing before the Appearance Commission.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Gibbs, seconded by Commissioner Zusel to adjourn.
Chatua,n Hardt adjourned the meeting at 10:23 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Comer, Secretary