1980-05-08 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILL.
TAMS. , MAY 8. 1980
CALL TO ORDER
1.
Chairman Don Hardt called the Appearance Commission meeting to order at 7:37 P.M.
at the Village Hall on Thursday. May 8. 1980.
2. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: D. Knaak, L. Paolillo. M. Holland, and D. Hardt.
Commissioners Absent: L. Kirby. L. Gibbs. P. Carr (arrived late).
Building Department: James D . Griffin. Asst. Bldg. and Zoning Adm.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Com. Knaak made a motion to accept the minutes of April 10. 1980 as presented.
Com. Holland seconded the motion. Roll was called: Aye: Holland. Knaak. .Hardt.
Abstain: Paolillo
Nay: None
Minutes 4/10/�.80 Approved.
4. BUSINESS
a) Kinder-Care. Mrs. Janet Degner - Director
Lights and Trash Recepticlg ;
Mrs. Degner distributed Site Plans showing the proposed Trash Enclosure. She
explained that the Buffalo Grove Disposal Co. had recommended using a smaller
container than is presently being used. Pick-ups will be twice a week. The
pad will be-concrete.
The Commissioners discussed the construction of the enclosure and made some
recommendations concerning the cross-pieces. color of stain. etc.
Mrs. Degner asked that these recommendations be made a part of the motion and
Kinder-Care would comply.
Mr. Sherwin Rosenfeld. a resident of the area. suggested that the gate have
wheels for easy access and that the gate will be so postioned as to have these
wheels on the concrete.
Com. Holland made the following motion:
I move that we accept the fencing for the Trash Dumpster
Site (Kinder-Care) as depicted on the drawing:
1. The fence to be six (6) ft. in height. with
a concrete pad to be nine (9) feet wide and
nineteen (19) feet in depth;
2. That the fence to be as depicted in the drawing.
with the posts and reinforcing cross beams on the
fence be placed on the inside of the fence within
the concrete nad;
3. That the gates for the enclosure to set back so
that the swing of the gate be within the peri-
meter of the concrete nad:
Com. Carr arrived at 7.50 P.M. A
Kinder-Care:
Motion cont'd - 4. That the rate be suffiencntly reinforced with
11 uprights and cross-members: to be secure:
5. That the fence and gates to be stained to
match the Brown Trim, as the mansard of the
building;
6. The Fate to be made of the same material, as
the fence.
Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Paolillo
Hardt.
Holland
Knaak
Abstain - Carr
Motion Passed. Nay - None
KINDER-CARE - Lights
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Com. Hardt asked the Commissioners for their findings on the existing light
standard that was erected by Com Ed for Kinder-Care.
Com. Knaak asked about the cables that have been run into the buiidino
overhead instead of underground as it should have been. He said he does
not like the light on the telephone pole and would prefer to have it on
a standard.
Com. Holland expressed mixed feelings. He asked if Com Ed has any other
type of poles available? He definitely feels they need security lighting.
Mrs. Deener said she had talked with Com Ed and they only have
one type of light - no other style post or bulb. They only alterna-
tive they have is to take it down.
Com. Carr said she has stronger feelings about the exposed wiring than
the light.
Mr. Griffin said that the wiring from the building to the pole
should have been underground and he does not know why it was not
done properly. The only one they cannot control is the one across
the street.
Ch. Hardt feels that the whole thing is wrong. The mercury vapor light is
too harsh compared to the sodium vapor lights in the Village. If this tyre
of light is allowed for Kinder-Care they all other businesses will want to
use the same type for security. He said the Commission has two options:
1. Ask Kinder-Care to remove the light
2. Submi t a mor.e attractive light standard because
the school is located in a residential area.
Ch. Hardt explained the function of the Appearance Commission in approving
Architecture. Landscaping and Lighting of developments in the Village. He
- agreed that security lighting is needed and said that the AC would be con-
cerned with two factors:
1. The aesthetic style of the fixture
2. The effect on the light on the Village
right-of-_way and the surrounding residents.
Commissioners Knaak and APPEARANCE COMMTS.STON
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Ch. Hardt described the Buffalo Grove illuminair which is placed in the
parkway with the mast out over the street. The only lights used in B.G.
is one designed with to shield and no light shines onto residents' pro-
rerty. Only one type is used to eliminate the purchase and storage of
different types of fixtures. He did not believe it would be suitable: and
suggested that a lighting contractor would be able to help with the decisions
about how many lights were needed, etc.
Ch. Hardt asked Mr. Griffin to investigate what could be done about the
wiring that is overhead and perhaps check with Mr. Raysa for- any recourse
that could be taken by the Building Dept.
The situation concerning the changes in Architecture that were made during
construction. The pool fence was added and a utility building for pool
equipment were mentioned. It is uncertain as to when all these changes were
made because the Board okayed some of them after the AC review was made.
Mr. Griffin said that at this point in time it is too late to do anything
except check on the wiring. He added that tonight's recommendations will
be on the Board's next consent Agenda.
5. WORKSHOP
The various sign problems in the Village were discussed:
a) K & B Billboard: no change. Mr.Griffin can issue a citation.
b) General Car Care Sign Broken - Mr. Griffin has spoken to
then' and they are waiting until the insurance company gives
them a settlement.
c) Dodge - have been sent a letter asking them to take down-the
sign of find another tenant within 60 days.
d) T. J. Liquors is being sold and the new owners will be asked
to come in with a sign that is in comnli ante with. the Code.
e) Mr. Griffin has spoken to Com Ed and Mr. Baird (7) said he
thought it was un to Kinder-Care (or Buffalo Bills) to get
the permit. They will get hermits in the future.
6. 1 DJOURNNE1 T
Com. Carr made a motion to adiourn at 8:45 P.M. Com. Holland seconded the
motion. All were in favor and the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted.
j&je
Shirley Ba . Secretary
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Ch. Hardt mentioned the fact that no Hermit was taken out. The AC does
not wish to burden Kinder-Care. but if they had come as required by the '
Village, the same suggestions would have been made. The AC does not want
to add additional exneAse to any developer but it cannot allow this type
of lighting because of future problems.
Com. Holland asked how lone it would take Kinder-Care to go to their
Board and do what is necessary to comnly with Village reouirements?
Mrs. Degner answered that the Regional Director is in Ohio and they also
must talk with Com Ed with whom they have a two year contract. She does
not know if Com Ed would void the contract.
Ch. Hardt said the Village could Probably help them get out of the con-
tract and asked Mr.Griffin if he had relayed the information that a new
lighting plan should be prepared.
Mr. Griffin said he had informed Mrs. Degner of the AC's feelings on the
light and suggested an alternate plan be submitted. He added that he was
told they planned to appeal such a suggestion.
Mrs. Degner said she felt the Village should also put in a light for the
park that is located next to the Day Care Center.
Ch. Hardt said that the Commission wants to know if Kinder-Care will con-
sider developing an alternate lighting scheme. If so then the Commission
would be willing to delay removal of the Com Ed light while drawings are
made. submitted and contracts signed. Otherwise. the AC would ask that
it be taken down.
Mrs. Degner mentioned that since summer is here. and Daylight Time is in
effect, they really don't need the light except for the protection. it gives
from the kids playing at the park at night.
Com. Holland felt the light can remain on a temporary basis and made the
following motion:
I move we have the Kinder-Care Facility on
Arlington Heights Road remove the security
light situated on the 35 ft. telephone pole
:because it is not aesthetically pleasing.
'It is located on the Western property line as
depicted and it was never approved prior to its
erection.
Com. Carr seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote - Aye - Carr. Holland
and Hardt.
Nay - None
Motion Passed. Com. Holland noted:
The motion was made with the understanding
that if alternate lighting is submitted: such
alternative. plan is' to be submitted to the
Village within a six (6) week period.
Ch. Hardt explained to Mrs. Degner that the recommendation will be made
to the Village Board and outlined the procedure to follow for appeal.
Mrs. Degner said an appeal was not their intention. She wanted to come
before the Commission to discuss the situation and find out if the Vil-
would perhaps put in a light for them.
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