1981-02-12 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPRARAN(;F nnmmTSSZUN
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE. IL.
THURS., FEB. 12, 1981
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting of the Appearance Commission to order
at 7:45 P.M. on Thursday, Feb. 12, 1981.
II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: L. Paolillo, P. Carr, B. Gibbs (8:00 P.M.) and D. Hardt.
Commissioners Absent: L. Kirby, D. Knaak
Bldg. Department: James D. Griffin, Asst. Bldg. andZoning Adm.
Ch. Hardt announced that Com. Mike Holland has resigned because of a job transfer
to New Orleans.
III, APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of Jan. 22, 1981 were deferred because of absence of Commissioners who
were present at that meeting.
IV. BUSINESS
A. Medical Arts Center — Northwest Community Hospital
Karl Hundreiser, Architect
Mr. Hundreiser presented plans for the Screening of Roof Top Units and for
\./ .41e Dumpster Enclosure.
— He described the construction of the Roof Top Units first. He presented a
photograph showing the fence to be baked enamel on steel. Units painted out.
The units will be screened on the North and both ends.
— He designated the location of the Dumpster to be on the West Side of the
building on Lake/Cook Road. It will be screened with a brick wall to match
the building and screened with low shrubbery. Large trees also enclose the
area.
Com. Paolillo made the following motion:
I move we accept the plans for the Dumpster and
the Roof Top Units for the Northwest Community
Hospital — Medical Arts Bldg. as submitted on the
schematic with the following stipulations:
a) Roof Top Units will be painted
out to match the building.
b) Brick wall surrounding the
Dumpster will be screened with
low shrubs
Com. Carr seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Carr,
Paolillo,
Hardt
Nay — None
Motion Passed 3 to 0.
B.G. APPEARANCE COMMISSION
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Medical Arts Center - Northwest Community Hospital
Signage - Corner of Lake/Cook and Weiland; - Entrance on Weiland
Mr. Hundreiser explained the reason for securing a variation for the sign
to be placed at the intersection of Lake/Cook and Weiland. He said the pro-
blem as being for the benefit of people traveling South on Weiland and West
on Lake/Cook. The purpose is to identify the building. The sign will serve
as a means of slowing people down in order to enter the property. The sign
proposed for the South entrance on Weiland will be obscured by the trees on
the property. Signs located on the site plan as S 1, S - 2 and S - 3.
Ch. Hardt questioned the need for the sign on the corner, noting that the
ZBA Variance allows the sign.
There was no other discussion and Com. Carr made the following motion:
I move we accept the Sign Package (S - 1,2,3,) as
proposed with the revision of the sign
at the corner of Lake/Cook and Rt. 83 -(S-1);
including the interior directional sign.
Com. Paolillo seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote - Aye - Paolillo,
Carr
Nay - Hardt
Abstain - Gibbs
Motion Passed.
Chairman Hardt clarified his vote by stating that he is in favor of the
sign to be erected on Weiland Rd. on the Southernmost entrance of the
Medical Arts Bldg. and the revision of the sign on the corner of Lake/
Cook Rd. and #83; and the interior directional sign; but hs is totally
opposed to the erection of the Medical Arts Center sign at the inter-
section of Weiland and Lake/Cook Rds. because hardship has not been
proven.
B. Sign Change at Country Court - Dundee Road near Ellen.
David Stein -Irving's For Red Hot Lovers
Chuck Forcey - La-Z-Boy
The sign package for the center was reviewed. The provisions of the new
Sign Code were reviewed. The sign, Country Court, is a legal non-conforming
sign because of the proximity of the Bonanza sign and the Poppin' Fresh sign
and the Koenig & Strey sign. Page 49 of Sign Code.(c. 1) specifies: if
a non-conforming sign is made less non-conforming - it can be denied.
The Hot Dog is not on Irving's wall sign and the test is whether or not the
Logo could stand alone as identification. Also if the ground sign is allow-
ed, Irving's and La-Z-Boy could have only 20% for a facia sign.
The question arose concerning the other stores in the center, and the possi-
bility that they too would like a ground sign in the future. Mr. Forcey said
the stores had all been sent a letter last November and only Irving's replied.
Mr. Forcey stated that the volumn of sales from the Dundee Rd. store is down
40% as compared with the other stores which are down about 6% -20%. The lease
expires on May 1, 1981 and without a ground sign it will not be renewed.
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The colors proposed were discussed and the Commission felt that to allow
the sign as presented would be less in compliance with the Code and would
therefore require a variation from the ZBA before approval could be given.
Ch. Hardt outlined the possible procedure: a) Table
b) Vote and appeal be made to
the Village Board if the
sign is denied.
The gentlemen preferred the sign be tabled.
Com. Paolillo made the following motion:
I move the request for sign change at Country Court
be tabled inasmuch as the sign needsa variation from
the ZBA, and recommends the petitioners proceed in
that manner.
Com. Gibbs seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Carr, Gibbs,
Paolillo and
Hardt
Nay - None
Recommendation to refer the sign to the ZBA for variation Passed 4 to 0.
Discussion of the proposals the Commissioners made regarding the sign:
a) The Hot Dog is not acceptable
b) No other signs have been allowed with advertising.
c) Identification only should be1e11owed.
d) Colors are not compatible. The Country Court sign
is a very "High Class" sign and the Proposed sign would
degrade the whole center.
e) The change would set a precedence which must be considered.
d) The Commission agreed that location of the stores is a
problem.
Ch. Hardt also informed Mr. Stein that if the ZBA grants a ground sign, he
would also need a variation for the facia sign he now has. The area of
La-Z-Boy was not certain. The Sign Package should be checked out.
C. Applegate Realty Co. - Signs at the Commons - Bob Verbic, Pres.
Mr. Verbic explained that Applegate Realty is not the sales agent for Commons.
They are now marketing the new homes and need the identification for callers
who are interested in the homes. In lieu of applying for a permit for a free-
standing, they all felt it more appropriate to cover the existing telephone
information on the existing Commons sign with an Applegate Sign.
Ch. Hardt explained that to erect a sign would be prohibited because it would
be an off-premise sign. He suggested that a solution would be to repaint the
sign using BLUE letters, giving the telephone number. No apple. People who
are interested in the Commons house would be accomodated.
Mr. Verbic felt the Applegate name and Logo are essential. However, they are
fulfilling a function at the Commons and they will apply for a separate permit
if necessary.
The Commissioners were in general agreement that the sign is offensive as it is.
They favored a new sign or repainting of the existing sign. Discussion of the
Sign Code - Section 11.1 and 11.2 were discussed. Clarification was requested
and it was decided that Section 11.1 (c) applied.
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Mr. Verbic asked that he have time to meet with Mr. Lou Shassian and return
in two weeks with a decision. He requested that the sign be allowed to stay
until that time.
The Commission preferred that the sign be removed because it has been up for
several weeks now.illegally. The Sign Code should be enforced. They also
reminded Mr. Verbic of his option of going to the Village Board to appeal a
decision of the Appearance Commission.
Com. Gibbs made a motion to Table. the Applegate Sign dt tue toomo4se
Com. Paolillo seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Carr, Gibbs,
Paolillo and
Hardt.
Nay — None
Motion to Table passed unanimously — 4 to 0.
D. Midwest Development Corp. — Happ Farm Property
Diane Walker,
Sue Bartells — Michael Ives
Signage — Mr. Griffin noted that the sign presented is not the correct
size because they are proposing to repaint one of the large
existing billboards; as per the pre—annexation agreement.
Ms. Walker presented a new drawing of a temporary sign to be erected for a
period of three weeks. At that time, three new signs will be requested.
The Logo is being devised and colors are being finalized.
Because the sign they wish to use is on an angle, Ms. Walker requested that
a V—shaped, double—faced sign be allowed.
This request was discussed at length, and the suggestion was made that they
be allowed to move the rear post and re—locate it so that the sign will be
perpendiciflAr to Dundee Road so that it can be double—faced.
Another possibility was to use the sign they are allowed and erect another
10! x 12! sign located at the other end of the property.
After further discussion, Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move that the temporary sign requested by Midwest Development
Corp. be allowed. The sign to be 10 ft. by 20 ft., a legal
non—conforming sign subject to Paragraph 12 of the Annexation
Agreement. The sign to be unlit.
Copy to be as indicated in the colors shown. That before the
sign is put ups all other four signs must be removed.
The Appearance Commission also allowed this 10! x 20! sign to
be moved perpendicular to Dundee Road. And a second face to
be allowed making it a double—faced sign.
Any other signage to be approved for this development must be
brought before this Commission.
The 10! x 20'/sW'being approved with the stipulation that no
other ground sign be erected for the advertising, sale, lease
or development of this parcel; and does not include any interior
directional signage.
Com. Paolillo seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Carr, Gibbs,
Paolillo and
Nay — None. Hardt
Motion Passed 4 to 0. APPEARANCE COMMISSION
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First Midwest Development Corp. - Sales Trailer
Ms. Walker presented the Site location for the temporary sales office trailer
with landscaping. It is to be a Standard Trailer, Beige, with an Apron, a
wood deck to be brown, wood-stained. Three windows in front and Four in the
rear. The Dumpster will be located in the rear of the traler. .Landscaping
will be adequate as shown and will be moved to the permanent location.
Lighting and Signage must be approved for the Trailer. Security lighting will
be allowed. Twenty four hour lighting is discouraged.
Com. Carr made the following motion:
I move we accect the . Landscaping Plan and the
Sales Trailer as submitted by the First Midwest
Development Corp. as per the Site plan.
The Trailer will be beige, skirted, with a
brown stained deck. (Natural)
The Dumpster will be located at the North end
of the trailer.
The parking lot will be gravel. Temporarily.
All signage and additional lighting, other than security lights,
must come in before the Appearance Commission.
Com. Gibbs seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Paolillo
Gibbs
Carr
Hardt
Nay - None
Motion Passed 4 to 0.
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
1 - The next meeting, Feb. 26, 1981, is to be a PublicHearing for review of
the Monotny Code.
2 - Pres. Verna Clayton will be contacted for a new Commissioner.
3 — Reception on Sunday for all B. G. Commissions
- Letter from Pres. Clayton stating concern about proposed sign for Village
activities. There is a possibility that such a sign would violate the Sign
Code but the Trustees are in favor of such a sign.
5 — Check new sign if Buffalo Grove Home Center is rented. (Dunell Center)
6 — Check enrollment sign at Kinder-Care Nursery School on Arlington Hts. Road.
VI. i`.51URNMENT
Com. Gibbs made a motion to adjourn at 10:30 P.M. Com. Carr seconded the motion.
Meeting adjourned by unanimous agreement.
Respectfully submitted,
Shirley Bates ecretary
Appearance Commission
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