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1981-05-28 - Appearance Commission - Minutes ! • APPEARANCE COMMISSION VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL. Thurs., MAY 28, 1981 I. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting to order at 7:42 P.M., Thursday. May 28, 1981 at the Village Hall. II. ROLL CALL Commissioners Present: Knaak, Carr and Hardt. QUORUM (6 Member Commission) Commissioners Absent: Paolillo, Kirby and Gibbs. Also Present: James D. Griffin, Asst. Bldg. and Zoning Adm. Marc- Schwartz, Trustee Liaison III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES May 14, 1981 - Corrections: Page 1, Paragraph 2 of Koenig and Strey, Line 5 - s/b Koenig and Strey "Sign"; Same Paragraph. Line 8 - delete Since; The... Page 3, Paragraph 3 of Northwood. Line 2 - delete "be repainted." - Page 6. Olympic Torch motion, Line 4 - change from to "above." Com. Knaak made a motion to approve the May 14, 1981 Minutes with corrections. Ch. Hardt seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Knaak and Hardt Nay - None Abstain - Carr File Copy will be amended and placed on file. IV. BUSINESS - Old A. Anden Corporation - Northwoods Repainting of Existing Sign Mr. Maurice Charlotte was present and the Commission reviewed the May 14, 1981 decision to repaint one sign on Lake/Cook Road for an example. Ch. Hardt and Com. Knaak have seen the sign and have no objection to the colors in that loca- tion. However, they felt the red is quite bright for the signs at the Model Area. Mr. Charlotte presented photos of the proposed colors at their development in Vernon Hille. They are requesting the Red/White/Blue colors for several other signs in Buffalo Grove. The large 10 x 10 parking lot sign, Information Center, and Models. After discussing the various signs and possible color combinations, the AO agreed that the sign submitted for the Models was the best. Mr. Charlotte was willing to comply. Basically, the amount of Red was objectionable in the combination submitted, but the Commission preferred to limit the Red and the following motions were made: 1. MOD THWOOD, Essex. etc. Com. Knaak made a motion to approve the Model Identification signs ONLY as depicted for the model names: Essex, Cypress. Dorchester and Bayberry. Motion continued on Page Two: Northwood Motion continued: • Motion is to exclude the sign which reads: Welcome to'Northwood on one side; and Thank You For Visiting Northwood an the other side. Com. Carr seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Carr. Knaak, Hardt. N-s/Now, Nay — None Motion Passed 3 to 0. 2. Thank You and Welcome To Northwood Com. Carr made the following motion: I move we accept the two faced sign: "Thank You and Welcome To" in a similar format as the Model signs with the Thank You and Wel— come to be Red Background with White Lettering, with a White stripe at the top, and the remainder of the copy to be Blue Lettering on a White Background with a Blue Border. Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye— Carr, Knaak, Hardt. Nay— None Motion Passed 3 to 0. 3. Large Sign in Parking Lot Com. Knaak made the following motion: I move we accept the 101 x 121 sign in the Parking Lot to be: Welcome To — Red Background with White Letters; Northwood at B.G. — White Background with Blue Letters; Single Family Homes — For Information Call: 541-1650 also White Backgroung with Blue Letters. Optional: White Horizontal Strip at the Top. Posts will be Blue. (Not optional) Com. Carr seconded.the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Carr. Knaak. Hardt. . Nay — None Motion Passed 3 to 0. 4. Information Center above Garage Door Com. Knaak made the following motion: I move we accent the sign which indicates Information Center at the Sales Office above the Garage will be: White Background with Blue Letters • Optional: Red Border Com. Carr seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Carr. Knaak. Hardt. Nay — None Motion Passed 3 to 0. • APPEARANCE COMMISSION May 28, 1981 — Page Two 1 V. NEW BUSINESS A. Sunshine Crafts — Wall Sign at Plaza Verde North Shore Sign Company Ms. Vicky Baker presented the sign for her new Craft store. She will be using the same letters from Sunshine Sports, adding the necessary new letters for Sunshine Crafts. Same color,_material. letter style, etc. Com. Carr made the following motion: I move we approve the proposed sign for Sunshine Crafts as presented with the stipulation that holes will be filled and the background painted, as necessary. Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: '.Aye — Carr. Knaak, Hardt. Nay — None Motion Passed 3 to 0. • Be Devonshire Development — Temporary Signs Ms. Janet Engelwood presented photos of the signs that have been erected to direct people to the Model Area. She explained that people would see the original sign and not be able to find the model so the second more prominent sign was put up. The model has been sold and :the signs will be removed at the end of June. Devonshire has 10 lots left to sell ane they have been using the model over the weekend for color selection, etc. Ms. Engelwood said they would like to put the sign on the construction trailer, which will be used as a Sales Office. There_will not-be_.any Applegate signs left up. All sales will be handled-from the construction trailer which is on the site. Some of the Homeowners have agreed to having their houses shown as models. Ch. Hardt noted a problem with the location of signs being placed in front of the building line of adjacent property. Model areas are different because usually no homes are occupied at the model site. The color of the signs was discussed. The Black/White one is alright but the Red/White one is not acceptable. Ms. Engelwood proposed leaving the Black/White sign on the model house until July 1. 1981 and removing the Red/White one now and putting it on the trailer. Mr. Marc Schwartz, Trustee indicated that he has had complaints from a group of Homeowners in Devonshire who object to the signage and who also have a concern about the maintenance of the entryway island. It seems that no nne wants to take care of it. Another problem is with the detention area. Ms. Engelwood said she is aware of this group and explained the situation. Mr. Griffin said that until the streets are accepted by the Village. they are ' technically still to be cared for by the developer. Ms. Engelwood agreed to care for these problem areas until Phase 1 is dedicated. The empty lots will be cleaned up, the island will be planted one more time. The detention area will be maintained. Com. Knaak proposed the following plan: 1. Approve sign for Models Open — Weekends Only. 2. Remove — "Devonshire Information sign immediately." 3. Return when the trailer is to be used as the information center and consider what signage they want. The Commission can consult with the Homeowners any problems APPEARANCE COMMTS.SION May 2, 1981 — page ,Three Com. Knaak made the following motion: I make a motion that we approve the sign in Devonshire, located at 1112 Devonshire. for a period until July 1, 1981. The sign reads: /N./ Models Open - Weekends Only 11:A.M. to 5 P.M. For Information Call: 945 - 2944 Also stipulating that if the phone number is changed, it will not be painted out. It will need a sign change. _ This motion is, contingent upon immediate removal of the Devonshire Information Center- Sign. Com. Carr seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Carr, Knaak Hardt. Nay - None Motion Passed 3 to 0. Ch. Hardt asked Ms. Engelwood about some other problems the Village has had with the Commons and Mr. Shassian. 1., The Commons signs were not removed when Applegate took over. and when they were taken to court. To comply with the court order, the botton part of the signs was painted out unsatis- factorily. t 2. Also, a ground sign with a Blue/Green background and Gold flowers has been placed in the median in the entranceway to the Commons off of Buffalo Grove Road. This is an illegal sign and should be removed. It was never approved. Mr. Hardt spoke of the need for greater co-operation with the Villages and asked Ms. Engelwood to work toward alleviating these problems so that future requests will be received more receptively by the Commission. Ms. Engelwood responded that Mr. Shassian no loner has an 4 the Commond at Buffalo Grove. g ything to do with Mr. Griffin stated that it was Applegate that was taken to court and ordered to take the signs down. They did so and painted over the Commons signs. Ch. Hardt maintained that anyone who takes over an existing development is required to meet the original agreements made by the developer. Since Ms. Engelwood is not responsible for the Commons. she was only asked to look into the complaints brought up by Trustee Schwartz,relative to Devonshire. (4P Sob7. - B. G• Commerce Cent r: Ground roe signDena. Donarmd Mr. Donarski presented his request for a temporary sign to be located on Lake/Cook Road. He explained his business is to pulverize the top soil and sell it. He has a contract with Lexington Development Corp. He has had a sign, not in B.G. but it has been knocked down several times, Finally, - it was stolen. He now wishes to affix a sign to his fuel tank.- He is willing to move the tank 500 feet away from the Lexington sign. APPEARANCE COMMISSION May 28. 1981 - Page Four 1 Ch. Hardt discussed the possibile need for a variation because this is technically an off-premise sign. It was decided that under Sec. 5.2 of the Sign Code a special permit can be approved by the AC for a period of N../N./ 6 months with renewal granted only by reappearance before the Commission. Ch. Hardt read all the stipulations for meeting Sec. 5.2 and Mr. Donarsid. agreed to meet each of them. The sign will be 500 feet East of the Lexington dign. : It will be double-faced. Each side bolted to the fuel tank. Since the land is undeveloped, landscaping will not be needed. The area should be kept neat and the tank should be painted. Mr. Donarski agreed. Com. Carr made the following motion: • 'Bernie's snail . r� 31 cooly with tt3. +t i`eeiwnee • �3,tu � �a it '^",.»$�" -#g c�' a"a, may !s: c,µ of ,• _� j W5 'S`;` T 8 i 6.� low ` 3 'r .� -7. ..40.4 z a -ed ,� . r �r�, Ciom. 'notion Roll Call Votes �..../ Nay None Motion Passed 3 to 0. VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS Mr. Hardt recapped the ZBA meeting concerning Irving's and noted that the variation request was tabled until June 16, 1981, He said a suggestion vas made to use the existing Koenig & Strey pylon sign as an identification sign; and allow Koenig & Strey to erect two wall signs as per The Sign Code. He asked that as many AC members attend_as -possible. --- - Several Village sign problems were noted and Mr. Griffin will investigate them and report to the Commission. ► Ch. Hardt welcomed Trustee Marc Schwartz as the Liaison to the Village Board. Mr. Schwartz responded by asking what he can do for the Commission? Ch. Hardt said the present economy has created some problems with business's being able to prosper. Rollover, it is difficult for the AC to function pro- perly if the Codes are not upheld. He noted that it is the intent of the Sign Code to eliminate the proliferation of signage in Buffalo Grove. The Commission is vitally concerned with precedence. People seem to rely on precedence and come in because of similar signage. They do not understand that some signs are legal -non-conforming, etc. The Commisaion is 'careful not to discriminate and tries to be consistent. Mr. Schwartz said he would try to uphold the Commission's decisions to the V.B. VII. ADJOURNMENT -• Com. Knack moved to adjourn at 9:45 P.M. Com. Carr seconded. Meeting adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Shirley Bates. Secret��sy APPEARANCE COMMISSION May 28.. 1981 - Page Five