1981-09-24 - Appearance Commission - Minutes APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, IL.
THURS.. SEPT. 24. 1981
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Don Hardt called the meeting to order at 7:37 P.M. at the Village
Hall on Thurs., Sept. 24, 1981.
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III. APPROVAL OF MhuTES
August 27, 1981 — Motion to approve as submitted was made by Com. Knaak and
seconded by Com. Gibbs. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Knaak
8ibbs
Hardt
Nay — None
August 27th minutes approved. Abstain — Cea
Sept. 10, 1981 — Motion to approve as submitted was made by Com. Gibbs and
seconded by Coin. Knaak. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Knaak
Gibbs
Cea
Hardt
Sept. 10th minutes approved. Nay — None
*II. ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Knaak, Gibbs, Cea and Hardt. Paolillo — 8:15 P.M.**
Commissioners Absent: Kirby and Carr
Bldg. Department Rep. — James D. Griffin, Asst. Bldg. and Zoning Adm.
IV. BUSINESS
Bob's Hobby Shop — Forth Shore Sign Co.
The sign was presented and Mr. Vic Laska explained that the shop is moving
from its present location to the former location of Applegate Realty. The
same letters will be used and they conform with the Plaza Verde Sign Package.
They are Helvetica, individual, individua1ly lit letters. The disconnect will
be painted out to match the facia. The landlord is responsible for refitoring
the facia before installation of the sign.
Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we approve the re—location of the
Bob's Hobby Shop sign. Letters to be Red,#2157 —
flat plexi—glass, back lit individual, Helvetica
letters; 18 inches in height to be centered over
18 feet of the facia. Facia to be restored to
its original condition prior to the erection of
sign. The disconnect to be painted out to match
the background.
Com. Knack seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye — Knaak, Gibbs, Cea
\ and Hardt.
Nay — None
Motion Passed I to 0.
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B. Headlines Family Hair Care Center - Sian
3 Ranchmart Plaza (Next to Hallmark)
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Steve Panzella, owner presented the -sign copy and explained that it would
conform to the Ranch Mart Sign Package. ' The name is his DBA.. The sign will
be a re-constructed, internally illuminated can, boxed in a wooden frame.
The letters will be the same as Hallmark,'Columbia, and all the other newer
signs. The sign will be Ivory letters on a Dark Brown background.
Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we approve the new sign at Ranch
Mart for Headlines Family Hair Care Center;
to be a reconditioned internally illuminated
can with the letters to march' Columbia in
size and shape. The letters of Headlines
to be no more than 14 inches in height; and
smaller letters to be approximately 6 inches
in height. Letters to be Ivory on a brown
background. The sign to conform with the Ranch Mart Sign
Com. Cea seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Knaak, Gibbs, Package.
Cea and Hardt
Nay w Nona
Motion Passed 4 to 0.
Bob Russo and Jack Shum presented a new color package chart and explained
that all materials to be used in Units 4 and 5 will be the sane as previously
approved for Hoffman's development. Four new models will be presented with
several elevations each.
Ch. Hardt asked that the materials be reviewed first, then the elevations,
and finally, the color packages.
The materials will be the same for all models:
Roofs - Asphalt Shingles
Aluminum Sidign
Face Brick
B Vents - if exposed to be painted ottt to match_ the roof.
Roof Vents - if exposed to public view, will be painted out.
Tudor has masonite stucco
Trim corners - some wood on the front, all rear corners are
aluminum. Food trim will be painted.
Shutters - Vinyl plastic• Buyers will have option for shutters
Full masoncry fireplaces /on all windows.
Decorative panels - Vinyl plastic
Soffits and Facia - All Aluminum
Wood posts will be woluanized.
Porches and railings aro painted pine.
Kickboard - without basement - concrete slab
with basement - will be wolmanized kickboards
Downspouts - All Aluminum - some contrasting colors
Brick front - some stone and some rowlock course
Landscaping of blank side elevations on corners will be
submitted to Jim Griffin in a typical plan.
Garage doors - all panel
Muttons - all divided light windows
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The elevations were reviewed and the Commissioners were polled to
determine the number which would be considered as significantly different
for meeting the Motony Code.
Unit 1 - Hickory Model: The point was made and confirmed that the model
with the porch has a distinctly different roof line.
All four elevations will be considered different. A, B, C, and D.
* *(e:15 P.M. Coin. Paolillo arrived.)
Unit 2 - Chestnut Model: Three elevations: A, B, and C.
Unit 3 — Spruce: Three elevations: A and C; B, and D.
Unit 4 — Redwood: Two elevations: A, B, and C; D
j'Y -f dditional landscaping tin. • included on corner lots with
blank elevations. A typical plan will be submitted to Mr. Griffin.
#1. Com. Knaak made the following motion:
MOW ainareve is losthulet for Highland E v4ve
oeng ►..._fgemerg commute concern a4A models:
B Vents to be painted the same color as roof.
Roof vents when exposed to public view to be painted
the same color as the roof.
Landscaping plan to be submitted to the Village Administrator
for approval by the Appearance Commission for blank
side elevations wlien they occur on corner lots.
This applies to ALL models with a secondary frontage.
Hickory Model - 4 Elevations: A; B; C; and D.
Chestnut Model - 3 Elevations: A; B; and C.
Spruce Model - 3 Elevations: A and C; B; and D.
Redwood Model - 2 Elevations: A, Band C; and D.
utter will be offered an an option for side and rear -
• of all elevations.
Materials and brick selections as submitted.
All support posts on porches will be treated wood
Con. Gibbs seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Knaak, Gibbs,
Cea and Hardt
Ray - Hone
Abstain - Paolillo
Motion Passed 1. to 1 Abstention.
#2. Color Packages were reviewed and discussed. Each selection will be made
available for all houses. Colors will not be interchanged except on rare
occasions. The Commissioners were in general agreement with all selections.
Ch. Hardt felt that so many color combinations could be a potential problem.
Com. Paolillo made the following motion:
I move we accept the Color Packages for Eighland Grove,
Units 4 and 5 as presented. Color Scheme identified as
Exhibit A as per attached chart.
Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call. Vote: Aye - Knaak, Gibbs,
Cea and Paolillo
j4otion Passed 4 to 1. Nay -Hardt
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D. Steepleview Billboard Sign Change
Mr. Carl Johnson of Art & Sign, Inc. Barrington presented the proposed
sign face and explained that Steepleview will be converted from Condos to
rental apartments. The sign will be repainted with "Now Renting" to be
added in Red. Also requested is a Now Renting for the Wall facing West.
Mr. Griffin stated that the sign structure is good. It leans a little.
Ch. Iiardt noted that the sign presented is 81 x 161 which totals 128 sq. ft.
not including the Steeple. This is larger than the Code allows. If the
sign has been constructed this size, it is illegal. It is unlikely that
the Commission approved a sign that large, but if so it should be allowed
to be repainted. Section 10.1 of the Sign Code was cited and the Commis-
sion felt that if a smaller sign was approved then the sign should be cut
down to 120 sq. ft. with the steeple enclosed within the sign.
Sign copy was discussed and the Commission did not think adding "Now Rent-
ing" in Red would be compatible with the browns and beiges that exist.
Several suggestions were made. One was to change the colors completely
and the other was to change the color Red to Burnt Orange which would be
in the same family of colors. Mr. Johnson agreed to Burnt Orange.
Wall Sign change - the Commission was opposed to having two signs on the
side of the building. Now Renting is OK but without the Information Center
sign that now exists. The Commissioners also suggested making the color
Burnt Orange instead of Red. also. Mr. Johnson agreed.
No. -1 .: Com. Gibbs made the following motion:
I move we approve the re-painting of the Steeple
View Sign, provided the size of 128 sq. ft. was
previously approved by the Appearance Commission.
The sign copy and colors are to be the same; •
with the adding of "Now Renting" in Burnt Orange.
If -the_sign is legal, non_-conforming, it.grill be
allowed'to be we-painted because the -change requested
coos,•not•dramat ;cally change .'tie principal. sign .copy.
The sign is to be repainted completely. .
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The sign structure is to be inspected for stability.
Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Paolillo,
. ; , Knaak, Gibbs,
Cea and Hardt.
Nay - None
Motion Passed 5 to 0.
No..2 Cog, Gibbs made the following motion: •
I move we allow the Now Renting sign to be
erected on the wall at Steeple View.
Color to be Burnt Orange; and the Information
Office sign is to be taken down prior to the
placement of the new sign. Size to be 21 x 61 as
submitted.
Com. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Paolillo, Knack,
Gibbs and Hardt.
Nay - None
Motion Passed 4 to 1 Abstention. Abstain - Cea APPEARANCE COMMISSION
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E. Medical Arts Center — nonstruction Sign
Carl Hundreiser presented the proposed sign and explained that with con—
struction nearing completion on the outside, there is much to be done to
finish the interior of the building. This office furnishing is expected
to continue until sometime in 1982. The sign is needed to identify the
location when contractors come to work.
Ch. Hardt voice objection to the phrase 'Medical Offices Serving Buffalo
Grove and Surrounding Communities' on the sign; and he also felt that it
should not be up after the permanent signs are erected. He noted that the
Medical Arts Building has already been granted a variation and has one
more sign than the Sign Code specifies.
Mr. Hundreiser agreed to drop the 'Medical Offices etc" and asked that if
a time limit was put on the sign, that extensions could be granted. The
land belongs to the owner, but the building belongs to. the contractor who
rents out portions of it to the owner, until it is fully completed/or leased.
Section 11.4 applies and specifies that construction signs be removed with—
in 5 days after completion. Ch. Hardt said that the Code is to be inter-
preted as it was written. He recalled that when the two entrance signs were
• granted it was because that would solve the problem of people locating the
building. He believes that most folks will be able to see a 2 story build—
ing and said when the Code was written "completed" meant when the outside
was finished.
There was some discussion, then Com. Paolillo made the following motion:
I move we accept the sign submitted by the
NW .Com. Medical . Center as presented with
these stipulations:
a) Medical Offices Serving Buffalo
Grove and Surrounding Communities
be deleted;
b) The duration of the sign,. as per
Sec. 11.4, to be the earliest of:
1. Completion of the exterior
of the building or,
2. The erection of the permanent
signs on the site.
Con. Knaak seconded the motion. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Knaak
Paolillo
Hardt
Nay — Gibbs
Motion Passed 3 to 2. Cea
Ch. Hardt stated that should Mr. Hundreiser wish an extension for the sign,
he would be required to get a variation from the ZBA. Ch. Hardt further
stated he Would normally be opposed to additional. sigriage on this parcel,
because of the extensive amount of existing ground signs. However, a con—
struction sign is allowed by the Code. That is the reason for his Aye vote.
Because of this extensive signage, Ch. Hardt does not believe any extension
of time should be granted.
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F. Kinder Care - Light Fixtures for Parking Area
Mrs. Janet Degner, !i.rector recalled for the Commission the previous light
which was put up by Commonwealth Edison Co. to ilium mate the parting lot.
The AC had voted against this light and it was removed. Now is the time of
year when lighting is needed early in the evening and Mrs. Degner presented
drawings showing a plan to install fixtures on the bell tower. The light
fixtures would be brown to match the roof and the number of lights needed to
light the parking lot was left open. Lights would be controlled by a timer.
The Commission discussed the position of the bell tower and the proposed
lights. Because Mrs. Degner did not have a picture of the fixture. She did
not know the type of bulbs (sodium or mercury; high or low pressure; etc.)
and was not certain of the number,. oa location of the fixtures. It was
difficult to determine how much light would be needed. The Commissioners
felt it would be better if some research was done by a lighting contractor
and better presentation be made at a later date.
Ch. Hardt suggested that Yrs. Degner decide what style and color of fixture,
number of lights, type of shields to be used so that light does not effect
any neighbors property, wattage, and location on the tower be submitted,
Com. Knaak made a motion to table. Com. Paolillo seconded the motion.
Mrs. Degner asked if she could submit the information to Mr. Griffin for
approval. She mentioned the lateness of the hour and her limited time.
The Commission agreed this would be acceptable; or suggested the lighting
man come. Roll Call Vote: Aye - Paolillo, Knaak, Gibbs
Cea and Hardt
Nay - None
\./ Kinder-Care Tabled until proper information is submitted to Mr. Griffin.
G. Commerce Center Temporary Sign Pae.kage
Mr. Jack Metzger, Diamond Outdoor Advertising; presented three (3) types
of signs. Lexington would like to post signs on individual lots giving the
size of the lots. He proposed 12 signs to begin with and as the lots sell
or lease, they would be removed and relocated to a different lot.
Secondly, he proposed a sign for Lot #1 which is 6' x 12' for the Corporate
Headquarters Site.
Third, a sign, 41 x 81, on Lot 39 which is a warehouse building for sale or
lease.
All the signs will be 7-56 Blue background with Uhite letters. Posts to be
a dark color preferable the same blue as the sign; and the back of the signs
to be grey or blue for the benefit of homeowners.
A time limit of 1 year with renewal upon written request at least 30 days
prior to expiration of permit. Signs can be moved if Mr. Griffin is given
a request, the Commission will approve them, provided they are in good con-
' dition. Section 11.1 of the Code did not originally allow for multiple
signs on a site Because this is a commercial project, not in a residential
district,somz. Commissioners felt these signs would be acceptable.
APPEARANCE CONI•asSIow
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