1989-03-23 - Appearance Commission - Minutes ,
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VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, MARCH 23. 1989
I . CALL TO ORDER
Com. Bremner called the meeting to order at 7:43 P.M. at the
Village Hall, 50 Raupp Blvd. on Thursday, March 23, 1989.
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: E. Bremner, C. Bruno, R. Gordon,
F. Weissman and E. Larsen. QUORUM.
Commissioners Absent: D. Ehrhardt and M. Silbernik
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. January 26, 1989 - Com. Weissman made a motion to approve
as submitted. Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bremner, Larsen
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Bruno and Gordon
Minutes of January 26, 1909 approved and will be placed on
file.
B. March 9, 1989 - Com. Gordon made a motion to
approve as submitted. Com. Bruno seconded the
motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Gordon, Larsen
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Bremner
Minutes of March 9, 1989 approved and will be placed
on file.
Chairman Larsen chaired the remainder of the meeting.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. The Plaza at Buffalo Grove - Sign Criteria and Pylon Sign
Mr. Don Parker, General Partner, Plaza at Buffalo Grove.
Mr. Joe Cheney, North Shore Sign, 1925 Industrial Drive,
Libertyville, IL 60048 ( 816-7020 )
1 . Sign Criteria - The depth of the sign band is about
four ( 4) feet in height, but some places it will be
higher. Mr. Parker stated that the Sign Criteria will
be included as part of the lease. All tenants will be
required to put up new signage, with the exception of
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Ch. Larsen s,wdked if all tenants will bidentified
with individual letters, and no logos.
Mr. Parker responded that Items 4 and 10 address logos
and trademarks. They will be permitted only with the
written approval of the landlord.
Item 6. A. Ch. Larsen suggested deletion of the last
line, because some types of logos with fluorescent
lighting will require a depth greater than 5 inches.
Item 6. should be reworded to include verbiage from
the Sign Code that limits letters to one-half of the
portion of the building above the lintel ( 14.20.090 A )
Mr. Platt will assist with the language.
Mr. Larsen suggested deletion of the second paragraph
of Item 6. A. "The maximum square footage allowed. . ."
Ch. Larsen suggested including diagrams of a typical
one line of copy, centered; and two lines of copy,
center line being within the 3 inch separation. This
will clarify the intent and will keep the horizontal
line, if the bottom of all letters is kept one foot
( 1 ' ) above the awning. Descenders are permitted to
come below the center line.
Item 9.B. - add "exposed" neon tubing to clarify.
Instead of the word "plex" on Drawing n89010- 1-B,
Ch. Larsen suggesting using a generic term - acrylic
or polycarbonate.
On the two story building, where there is a step
back„
the smallest sign area is three feet in height and
the minimum width of the stores is 20 feet. There
could be 2 - 20 feet stores, or 1 - 40 foot store.
Ch. Larsen asked that the Sign Criteria be revised and
submitted to the AC for final approval.
Con. Bruno made a motion to approve the Sign Criteria for
. The Plaza at Buffalo Grove, with the recommended changes
to which the petitioner accedes; with the stipulation that
a revised copy is submitted to the AC for final approval .
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
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2. New Py l oign
A new main access will be located across from the entrance
into True Value Hardware store and the pylon sign will be
on the south side of the new entryway. The existing Ranch
Mart sign will be removed.
Colors submitted were:
1 . Top portion - Background and square poles,
Green to match the awning on the building.
2. Reveals - Red
3. 5 Tenant panels - Green cabinet, with Red copy
on White background.
Ch. Larsen commented that he would prefer fewer panels,
because people tend not to read a sign with too many
names.
Mr. Parker said it is their intention to provide a tenant
panel for each of 5 major tenants.
He suggested reversing the copy, so that there will he a
Green opaque background with White or Yellow copy. At
night, the green will not be seen.
Mr. Parker and Mr. Cheney agreed to the color• changes.
Com. Gordon made a motion to approve the pylon sign for
The Plaza at Buffalo Grove, on Buffalo Grove Road , wi.i.h
the stipulation that: the petitioner accedes to the
following revisions:
1 . Tenant panels will be limited to five ( 5 ); and
if additional panels are needed, AC approval is
required.
2. Tenant background to be Opaque Green ( to match
awning ) with White or Yellow copy.
3. Revised drawing to be submitted to the Building
Department with the permit application.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Gordon,
Bremner and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to O .
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V. NEW BUSINESS \a/
A. Village Hall - Renovation for Building Department
Lower Level - Elevations, Materials, Landscaping
Mr. Terry Frisch, Systems Design Group, Ltd. ,
5999 New Wilke Road, Suite 208, Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
(439-5800 ) made the presentation.
1 . ELEVATIONS/MATERIALS:
West Projection of North Elevation - Most of the
renovation is being done on the interior of the
building, but there will be a new entryway. The
single entryway at the Police Dept. will be replaced
with a double entryway that will project with a canopy
similar to the existing canopy.
North Elevation - Two large garage doors will be
removed. New windows will be installed with a canopy
to match the entry doors.
North Elevation - A new emergency generator will be
installed, adjacent to the existing transformer. IL
will be shielded with a new concrete retaining wall
and will have appropriate landscaping.
West Elevation - New double entry doors with a canopy
will be constructed. Four new windows will be added
to the new office space.
South Elevation - A new overhead door and new windows
will be installed.
Roof Top Equipment, - One new piece will be added and
the width of the mansard roof will be doubled to
screen the equipment. This will increase the height
of the building.
Materials will match the existing brick and shingles, etc.
and the windows will have dark anodized bronze frames.
Com. Bremner made a motion to approve the Elevations and
- Materials for the renovation of the Village Hall for the
Building Department.
Con►. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
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2. LANDSCAP I74G_
Jen Land Design, Inc. , 1410 Higgins Road, Park Ridge,
IL 60068 ( 698-3770 ) Mr. Frisch described the plans.
Most of the new landscaping will be along the North
face where the new entryway is to be constructed, and
around the new generator.
Landscaping will consist of the existing vegetation,
with the addition of pine trees and shrubs. There
will be a landscaped space around the new entryway and
under the new windows on the North elevation.
There will be landscaping around the new retaining
wall and new generator.
Mr. Frisch said they would comply with Ray Rigsby 's
recommendations, including the height of the pines.
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Landscaping for
the Village Hall renovation as submitted, subject to the
Village Forester's Review, dated March 20, 1989.
Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Gordon,
Bremner and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
B. Town Center - Evans - Sign recommendation for variance.
Mr. Marc Schwartz, Attorney, Batler and Schwartz,
400 W. Dundee Road, Buffalo Grove, IL 60089
represented Evans, Inc. He requested a favorable
recommendation from the Appearance Commission to the
Zoning Board of Appeals for additional signage for the
Evans store at the Town Center.
In January, when the Sign Package was approved, multi-
band signage was discussed, but when permits were sought,
the Building Department, decided that variances would be
required for stores with courtyard frontages. The site
has numerous corner signage locations. The Building De-
partment has determined that, according to the Sign Code,
only stores fronting on Route 83, with a North or South
corner elevation, would qualify for a secondary sign,
without a variance.
Evans is seeking the Appearance Commission 's aesthetic
approval for one additional , identical, wall sign on the
Southern elevation, which is a courtyard location.
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The plans that `/re submitted, show a non-illuminated wall
sign, but this sign is not being requested.
Ch. Larsen questioned the need for further discussion of
this matter and asked who made the determination that a
variance would be necessary. He asked Mr. Matt what is
considered "lot frontage under the B-5 Ordinance?"
Mr. Matt responded that it is Mr. William Raysa 's and
Mr. Frank Hruby 's interpretation that signage should
conform by having corner frontage on two public right-of-
ways. The corners in question will be considered interior
corners because they do not front on two of the public
right-of-ways, Lake/Cook Road, Rt. 83 (Mc Henry Road) and
the service way.
Mr. Schwartz said he understood the Building Department's
interpretation and he added that there are probably five
more similar locations that would be requesting variances.
Ch. Larsen replied that he is not disagreeing with the
Building Department's interpretation, but he thought this
question was addressed in the Sign Criteria, whereby it
was determined that lot frontages would be determined by
the parking lot locations, not the actual streets. He
asked for a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Com. Gordon made a motion to approve the aesthetics and
recommend, to the ZBA, approval of the second sign for
Evans, at the Town Center, as submitted.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Gordon,
Bremner and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
C. Town Place - Townhouse Elevations/Materials
Mr. Stan Lieberman, 400 W. Dundee Road, B.G. , IL 60089;
Mr. Sherman Braun and Mr. Roman Cluet, of Braun Skiba,
Ltd. Architects, 566 West Adams Street, Chicago, IL 60606
(930-9292) presented the exterior elevations and materials
for Town Place, townhouses to be built at the Town Center.
Mr. Cluet described the master site plan for Town Center.
The existing retail portion is nearing completion. Town
Place will consist of two 5-story buildings with 44 units
in each building; and 63 townhouses with the emphasis on
timelessness and good quality materials. The multifamily
buildings and the master landscape plan, street furniture,
etc. will be submitted in approximately one month.
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1 . ARCHITECTURE/MATERIALS=
The buildings are all masonry, front, sides and rear.
The front of the first level will be a precast,
simulated limestone product, with modular size brick
on both stories of the rear elevations and some side
elevations. Some sides are wrapped with the precast
material.
There will be stone coursing around all four sides of
the buildings, around windows and above doors. The
material will be a good quality drivet product.
The roof is a laminated shingle, with a 3-D quality,
and the appearance of slate.
Trim will be natural white.
Windows will be insulated glass, clad with white
frames, and the entry doors will be similar.
Corner units have some walls between the roof lines,
that will have a brick colored drivet material.
Chimneys will have a nailed-on clay product the color
of the brick. All buildings will have chimneys and
some with optional fireplace will have more chimneys.
The black railings in front of some windows are non-
functional. There are no balconies, or sliding doors
on the second stories. Ground floors have sliding
doors leading to patios.
B-vents will generally be on rear elevations and there
is a continuous ridge vent. Where it was not possible
to locate the vents on the rear, they will be painted
out to match the roof. There are also soffit vents.
There will be two condo associations, and a master
association that will oversee all of the exterior
maintenance, lawn care, etc. Each of the condo
associations will belong to the master association.
Control will be very strict. People are responding
favorably to the project and pre-sales are going well.
70% of the buyers are empty-nesters who want to be
free of home maintenance.
Skylights are offered as an option and most will be on
the rear elevations, but some will be located on front
elevations. Some are located over the entry atrium
stairways and some in the master baths. The skylights
will be flat, with clear glass and black frames.
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Ch. Larsen & i the Commissioners agreed fat the
architecture of Town Place is outstanding.
Com. Weissman made a motion to approve the Elevations
and Materials for Town Place at the Town Center, as
Submitted.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
D. Mobil Oil - Arlington Heights Road and Route 83
Addition of Car Wash/Lighting/Landscaping/Signage
Mr. Wayne Bennett, Senior Field Engineer, Mobil Oil Corp.
Schaumburg Corporate Center, 1515 Woodfield Rd. , Suite 400
Schaumburg, IL 60173 ( 330-6669) made the presentation.
1 . ELEVATIONS/ARCHITECTURE:
The car wash is the standard Mobil building with the same
architectural features as the existing car wash at Dundee
and Buffalo Grove Road. Grey exterior panels with White
fascia.
Ch. Larsen commented that the car wash is going into a
residential neighborhood, but the car wash was designated
and approved for that property before Spoerlein Farm was
developed.
Mr. Bennett described the site plan and explained that the
angle of the car wash was positioned to lessen the noise.
The six foot board-on-board fence was added to screen
lights at night. A three foot berm with additional land-
scaping has been added. The number of Pines has been
doubled. Hours of operation will be limited to 7 A.M.
until 10 P.M. Nothing can be done to screen the car wash
from the second floor of Spoerlein Farms.
Com. Weissman made a motion to approve the Elevations and
Materials for the addition of the car wash, to be
compatible with the Mobil Station at Arlington Hts. Road
and Route 63, as submitted.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Bruno,
Weissman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
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2. LIGHTING: '
Mr. Bennett said the Police Dept. has requested additional
light because there has been a problem with people hanging
out in the rear of the property. The proposed lights for
the car wash will increase the illumination around the
detention pond.
Com. Bremner made a motion to approve the additional light
fixtures for the car wash, as submitted by Mobil Oil Corp.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bremner, Bruno,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
3. LANDSCAPING:
Mr. Bennett described the Landscaping Plan, designated as
Revision 9, dated Feb. 25, 1989.
Mr. Ray Rigsby 's memo to Bob Pfeil, dated Dec. 22, 1989,
expressed concern about the landscaped berms at the north-
east corner of the property. Additional evergreen plant
material was requested.
Mr. Rigsby 's review, dated March 20, 1989, recommends that
the minimum height of the evergreens should be 7 feet, and
that additional plant material be provided between the
residential and commercial property, items 4, 5, and 6.
Mr. Bennett said the minimum height of the evergreens
would be 7 feet, per Item 4; and he would agree to add
Arrowood Viburnum, per Item 6, if necessary.
Regarding Item 5, Mr. Bennett said the original amount of
Pine trees has nearly been doubled, and they will be
staggered. There is not a lot of room for more trees.
If they are planted to close together, they will not live.
The fence will provide a more solid screen, initially,
than the tops of 7 foot Pine trees. In time the Pines
will provide a denser screen over the fence.
Ch. Larsen agreed that the revisions as shown on Plan #9
appear to be adequate and would not require additional
plantings per Mr. Rigsby 's recommendatory #5 and #6.
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Com. Gordon meta motion to approve the Landscaping as
submitted for Mobil Oil Corp. , Arlington Heights Road
and Route 83, subject to the Village Forester's Recommen-
dations, with the exception of Items 5 and 6, because the
screening is adequate, per Revision #9 dated Feb. 25, 1989
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
4. SIGNAGE:
Mr. Bennett distributed a revised sign plan, dated
March 14, 1989 that meets the Sign Code square footage
requirements, etc.
The pylon sign will be 8 ft. in height, set back 10 ft. ,
with smaller price panel, and car wash sign below. It
will be identical to the sign at Buffalo Grove Road and
Dundee Road.
Other additional signage will be an internally illuminated
"Car Wash" sign on the white fascia of the car wash
building; and a permanent point-of-sale Car Wash sign on
the building. Copy of this sign will not change.
Com. Weissman made a motion to approve the new Mobil Oil
identification sign with the gas pricing and car wash
panels as proposed; and the addition of the illuminated
letters on the car wash building.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
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E. Canterbury Fields - Sales Trailer/Landscing/Lighting
Mr. Dennis Kataska, Director of Sales for Dartmoor Homes,
Hoffman Estates, IL; and Mike Schoppe, Hitchcock Design
Group, Landscape Architects, 221 W. Jefferson, Naperville,
IL 60540 (961-1787) made the presentation.
1 . SALES TRAILER:
Mr. Schoppe described the Site Plan. The Gelco Trailer
will be located on Lot 1 , at Buffalo Grove Road and
Foxford Drive. The Gelco Trailer will be skirted with
matching aluminum, with a wood deck in front. It will be
removed after the permanent sales models are constructed
across the street.
The parking lot will remain and be used for the sales
models, until the parcel is developed.
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Sales Trailer
for Canterbury Fields as submitted by Dartmoor Homes.
Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
2. SIGNAGE:
a. One 5' x 5' sign mounted to the trailer and
lighted with one ground light.
b. One 2' x 3' double-faced, non-illuminated
ground sign, to be located at the entrance
on Buffalo Grove Road.
Colors - Light Grey background with Maroon border and
lettering. Posts will be grey.
Com. Weissman made a motion to approve the two signs
for Canterbury Fields as submitted.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Bruno,
Weissman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0 .
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3. LANDSCAPINC%S
Mr. Rigsby 's report, dated March 20, 1989, stated that
the plan is acceptable. No recommendations were made.
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Landscaping for
the Canterbury Fields Sales Trailer area as submitted.
Com. Weissman seconded t;he motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Weissman,
Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
4. LIGHTING:
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the ground lighting
fixture as submitted for illumination of the Canterbury
Fields Sales Trailer as submitted.
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Bruno,
Weissman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
F. Arbor• Creek Business Centre - Lots 25 aad 26
Landscaping/Signage/Rear Elevation Change _
Mr. James K. Olson, Jimi Construction, Inc .
3661 Woodhead Drive, Northbrook, IL 60062 ( 480-0404 )
made the presentation.
1 . LANDSCAPING:
The landscaping was withdrawn when the original
presentation was made in September 1988.
Mr. Rigsby 's review, dated Sept. 2, 1988, contained
several recommendations which have been i.ncorpor•ated
into the plan that was submitted. Mr. Rigsby 's
review, dated March 20, 1969 recommends acceptance of
the plan as submitted.
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Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Ntsindscaping
Plan as submitted by Harris & Kwasek Architects, Inc.
for Lots 25 & 26 at the Arbor Creek Business Centre,
subject to the Village Forester's Recommendations of
Sept. 2, 1968 and March 20, 1969.
Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
2. S IGNAG:E:
Mr. Olson described the location of the signs as depicted
on Sheet A-1 , dated Oct. 26, 1988. There are four truck
directional signs, that have a Green background with White
vinyl letters.
Each tenant will have an address sign. . These signs have a
Green background with White metal letters. Tenants will
not be permitted to have any signs on the building and
each will have their names/address on the doors .
Ch. Larsen said that the directional signs are permitted
and do not require permits.
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Address Nuanber
signs for Arbor Creek Business Centre, Lots 25 and 26,
as submitted.
Corn. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Bruno, Bremner,
Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
3. ELEVATION CHANGE:
Mr. Olson requested the option of adding overhead doors on
the rear wall, in case they have a tenant that needs them.
Plans are A-3 and A-3a. There may be one or two tenants
with overhead doors. There may no none.
The doors would be green and will blend with the green
truck dock doors on the rear elevation.
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Com. Bruno made motion to approve the rear elevation
change as requested, to possibly add drive-in overhead
doors for tenants.
Com. Weissman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Bruno,
Weissman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 5 to 0.
VI . ANNOUNCEMENTS
1 . Lighting at Federal Express - Mr. Matt said they are
still waiting for Mr. Beechick's reply to the letter
with the Building Department's recommendation to drop
the shade 2-1/2 to 3 inches and install it tightly against
the fixture body so that no light escapes.
VII . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Weissman made a motion to adjourn.
Com. Bruno seconded 1;he emotion.
Voice Vote was AYE - Unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 10: 10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Shirley Bates,
Recording Secretary
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