1989-04-13 - Appearance Commission - Minutes T '
APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, APRIL 13, 1989
I. CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Dennis Ehrhardt called the meeting to order at
7:45 P.M. at the Village Hall, 50 Raupp Blvd. on Thursday,
April 13, 1989.
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: D. Ehrhardt (Acting Chairman) C. Bruno,
and M. Silbernik. QUORUM.
E. Larsen (arrived at 8:15 P.M. )
Commissioners Absent: E. Bremner, R. Gordon and F. Weissman
Bldg. Dept. Liaison: Charles Matt,
Deputy Building Commissioner
Ed Schar, Building Inspector
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Tabled. (Absence of Commissioners who attended meeting. )
IV. BUSINESS
A. Village Sign System Update Modification
Lee Szymborski, Asst. Village Manager, and Bruce Daniels,
Viscomlabs, made the presentation of the revised signage
for the Village Campus.
Mr. Szymborski commented that when the Village Board
reviewed the first designs, the Trustees expressed their
preference to have the traditional Village logo instead of
the more contemporary buffalo. The Terra Cotta band will
be wider and there will be a center post instead of the
two posts that were previously shown.
Hr. Daniels said the shield will be dark brown or black,
with light copy; and at night the colors will be reversed.
The signs will be internally illuminated. The Village
Board has not seen the new design, but it complies with
the directions that were given.
Material Specifications for the electronic reader board,
Sign Location: 1. - dated March 1 , 1989, were not changed,
but a drawing was not included in the packet. Mr. Daniels
said the material of the face will be changed to aluminum,
and the copy will also include the Village logo. The
message center will remain the same.
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Cam. Bruno made following motion:
I move we approve the Village of Buffalo Grove
Municipal Sign System, revision dated 3.22.89,
be adopted, as presented. Construction of the
signs will be changed from two posts to a single
center post, and the Village Logo Shield will be
incorporated on the Terra Cotta Band.
Also included as part of the Sign System, is the
Reader Board, designated Sign Location: 1 - which
will also include the Buffalo Grove Logo Shield.
Com. Silbernik seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Silbernik, Bruno and Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
NOTE:
Following Item B on the Agenda, Mr. Szymborski returned to
request a temporary sign for Chippers Restaurant at Sign
Location: 2. The graphics will be the same, but the sign
will be constructed with plywood. It will be double-faced
and will be lighted with ground flood lights.
The temporary sign is important because Chippers will soon
be opened for full service. It will be replaced in 2 - 3
months, after the permanent sign has fabricated.
Com. Bruno made a motion to accept the temporary Chippers
Restaurant sign, constructed of plywood and illuminated
with flood lights, as requested for Sign Location: 2;
with the stipulation that the temporary sign will be
replaced with the installation of the permanent sign.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Silbernik, • Ehrhardt, Bruno, Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0.
Ch. Larsen suggested using the reader board sign to
advertise Chippers.
Mr. Szymborski responded that this has been discussed, but
advertising of other businesses has not been permitted and
the Village should apply the same standards to Chippers.
Ch. Larsen noted that the Chippers Wall Sign - #9 is not
designated in the correct location on the site plan. It
will be on the truncated Hall nearer Lake/Cook Road.
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B. Carlyle of Buffalo Grove - Edward Schwartz & Company
West side of Prairie Avenue, 3 blocks South of Route 22
Sales Trailer/Landscaping/Elevations with 3-car garages
Mr. Hollis Sangster made the presentation.
1 . Sales Trailer/Landscaping
The site plan was reviewed. The Gelco Trailer will
have an awning as depicted. The colors will be
Light and Dark Grey with White trim.
The existing house will not be used at this time and
it will eventually be removed. There will be a
construction trailer on the site.
Mr. Sangster said they will comply with Mr. Rigsby 's
review, dated April 3, 1989. Specifically, the
parkway along Prairie will be sodded and parkway
trees will be provided along Brandywyn Lane and
Prairie Avenue.
Com. Silbernik made a motion to approve the Carlyle
Sales Trailer with the Landscaping as presented by
Edward Schwartz & Co. , with the stipulation that
Ray Rigsby 's recommendations will be followed.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Silber•nik, Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0 .
Mr. Sangster was advised to submit any flood lighting of
the sales area to Mr. Matt for AC review.
2. 3-car options for the Fairmont, Manchester and
Whitehall models which have been previously approved.
a. Manchester - Elevation A
A 1-car garage with a single gable has been
placed next to the house with an extended
2-car garage.
The Commissioners discussed the revision and did not,
like the single garage next to the house, or the
setback of the double garage. They would prefer to
have the garage doors flush, with the single garage
on the outside. The overhang can be shortened and
the gable brought out far enough to allow for the
gutter. The brick portion should be unbroken.
Ch. Ehrhardt noted that all the other models with the
3-car option have the 1-car garage on the outside.
Mr•. Sangster agreed to alter the garages as proposed.
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Ch. Larsen arrived at 8: 15 P.M. but did not chair the
Carlyle Subdivision review.
b. Whitehall - Elevation I3
The 3-car option is acceptable as presented.
The Manchester could have the same modification.
Com. Silbernik made a motion to approve the
Manchester and Whitehall models, including the 3-car
option, for construction in the Carlyle Subdivision
with the stipulation that the fronts of garages are
flush and that the single doors are toward the
outside of the buildings.
All other items pertaining to these houses have been
previously approved, according to the letter, dated
March 29, 1989, from Ed Schwartz to Charles Matt.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Silbernik, Bruno, Larsen and
Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to O.
Mr. Sangster was advised to submit complete new
drawings to the Building Department; for, review.
3. The Fairmont - Elevations A and C .
No 3-car option to be offered,
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Fairmont
model , as previously approved, for construction in
the Carlyle Subdivision.
Com. Larsen seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Silbernik, Bruno, Larsen and
Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to O.
4. The Carlyle - Elevations A, B & C .
The same materials and color selections will be used
that were previously approved for the Devonshire and
Windfield developments. All have masonry fireplaces
with brick chimneys. There is no 3-car option.
For Monotony Code purposes Elevations A and B will be
considered the same, and Elevation C is different.
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Com. Larsen made motion to approve the Carlyle model,
Elevations A, B and C as submitted for the Carlyle
Subdivision, with the stipulation that for Monotony
Code purposes, Elevations A and B will be considered
the same and Elevation C is different.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Larsen and Ehrhardt
NAY - Silbernik
Motion Passed - 3 to 1 .
5. Oxford and Oxford II - Elevations A and B.
The Oxford II is the same as the Oxford except
for the addition of an angled bay window in the
breakfast room.
There are 3-car options with both front and side
load garages for Elevation A.
Coon. Larsen questioned the 6.5 ft. side yard
with the side load garage. The zoning district
is R-3. Side yard requirement. is 10M of lot
width, but not less that 16 Feet combined.
The Oxford has an optional fireplace in the
center• of the house and the chimney is on the
rear elevation. The fireplace is a pre-fab
with an aluminum chimney which .is not seen from
the front; of the house.
For Monotony Code purposes Elevations A and B will
be considered different, but an Oxford and Oxford II
cannot; be built next to each other•.
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the Oxford
and the Oxford II models, as submitted for the
Carlyle, as presented.
Elevation A has a 2-car garage, with optional 3-car
garage, with both front and side loads. Elevation B
has only a 2-car front load garage. •
Elevations A and B are considered significantly
different for the Monotony Code, but an Oxford and
and Oxford II cannot be built next to each other,
because they are basically the same house.
Cony. Larsen seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote= AYE - Bruno, Silbernik, Larsen► and
Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - . to O.
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6. The Westminster• - Elevations A and B.
Elevations A and B ar•e to be considered the
same for the Monotony Code.
Elevation A is offered with only a 2-car garage.
Elevation B has both front and side load, 3-car
optional garages.
Mr. Matt questioned the installation of the vertical
siding because it is difficult to get a good water-
tight seal.
Mr. Sangster described their method of construction.
A plywood sheathing is installed with either optional
tieback, or a standard protective aluminum foil
waterproof paper• under the siding. A different type
of siding that is connected evenly_
Cedar shingles are also offered as an option.
Com. Silbernik made a motion to approve the
Westminster model for the Carlyle Subdivision,
as presented with the 3-car option offered for
Elevation B only ( front and side loads ) and the
stipulation that. Elevations A and B are considered
the same for Monotony Code purposes -
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Silbernik, Larsen and
Ehrhardt,
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to U .
Com. Bruno made a motion to approve the materials and
color packages for the Carlyle, Westminster, Oxford and
Oxford II new models to be built in Buffalo Grove as
stipulated in the letter, dated March 29, 1989, from
Ed Schwartz to Charles Matt.
Com. Silbernik seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Silbernik, Bruno, Larsen and
Ehrhardt
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 4 to 0._
**NOTE:
Ch. Larsen, who had been delayed at O'Hare Field, thanked
Com. Ehrhardt for chair•i_ng the meeting. The rest of the
meeting was chaired by Mr•_ Larsen, including the second
Chippers ' motion on Page Two,
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V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Plaza at Buffalo Grove Sign Package Revision
Ch. Larsen said he has reviewed a copy of the revision and
it appears to have the suggested changes incorporated.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the revised Sign
Package as submitted by The Plaza at Buffalo Grove.
Com. Silbernik seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Silbernik ( He war; not present
during the original discussion. >
Motion Passed - 3 to 0, 1 abstention.
Ch. Larsen said the revised copy should be checked with
the AC minutes of March 23rd to verify the changes.
B. A letter was received from Ms. Carol Smith, Lieberman
Management Corp. relative to the landscaped buffer between
Oak Creek II and the new Plaza construction to the North.
The landscaping has already been approved. Ch. Larsen
directed that a copy of the AC minutes and diagram should
be sent to Ms. Smith with the recommendation that, if she
has any questions, she should contact Mr. Ray Rigsby.
C . Regarding the signs posted by recent: Village candidates,
the duct tape that was used has left some residue on the
Corten posts. The tape will not permit the posts to
oxidize properly. Other signs were, put up with glue.
Ch. Larsen commented that Mr. Raysa has been asked to
draft language that would impose some constraints on
future candidates. His recommendation will be referred
to the AC for action.
Some provision for permitting garage sale signs on the
parkways is also being considered.
The Commissioners noted that there was an overabundance of
signs on light poles, etc. and they were in general agree-
ment that staked signs on the parkways were preferable.
The candidates are permitted to put up signs 30 days prior
to the election and remove them within 7 days afterward.
ID. Com. Bremner had called the secretary to ask that the
minutes include a reference to the old Village Campus:
directional sign on Lake/Cook Road, West of the Village
Hall . The 4" x 4" post is leaning badly. The sign
cannot be read and it should be removed.
Mr. Matt will inform the Public Works Department.
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V. ADJOURNMENT
Com. Silbernik made a motion to adjourn
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Shirley Bates,
Recording Secretary
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