1989-04-27 - Appearance Commission - Minutes \./ `/ \.,/
APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, APRIL 27, 1989
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ed Larsen called the meeting to order at 7:42 P.M. on
Thursday, April 27, 1989 at the Village Hall , 50 Raupp Blvd.
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: E. Bremner, D. Ehrhardt, M. Silbernik,
R. Gordon, F. Weissman and E. Larsen.
Commissioners Absent: C. Bruno
Bldg. Dept. Liaison: Charles Matt,
Deputy Building Commissioner
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. March 23, 1989 - Postponed.
B. April 13, 1989 - A letter, dated April 20, 1989, from
Ed Schwartz relative to the 3-car options at Carlyle of
Buffalo Grove was reviewed.
Mr. Schwartz asked to have additional elevations approved
for optional 3-car, both front load and side load garages.
It was the decision of Ch. Larsen and the Commissioners
that all additional elevations must be submitted for AC
review.
Com. Silbernik made a motion to approve the April 13, 1989
minutes as submitted.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Silbernik, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Weissman and Bremner
Motion Passed - 3 to 0, 1 abstention.
April 13, 1989 minutes approved and will be placed on file.
Ch. Larsen asked Mr. Matt to notify Mr. Schwartz that he is
welcome to submit the additional Carlyle elevations, and
the AC will review them with respect to the 3-car option.
V. BUSINESS
A. St:. Paul. Federal Bank - New Pylon Sign
Mr. Ralph Cilia, M-K Signs, 4900 N. Elston Avenue,
Chicago, IL 60630 ( 312) 545-4444 made the presentation.
St. Paul Federal has a double-faced sign at the corner of
Dundee and Buffalo Grove Rd. situated at a 45 degree angle.
Because it cannot; be seen from all directions, St. Paul is
requesting a 3-sided sign, with one angle perpendicular to
Dundee Rd. and one angle perpendicular to Buffalo Grove Rd.
The two existing faces and one new identical face will be
used on the new base. A site plan was submitted. The sign
is 17 feet high and will be located 19'6" from the corner
of the property lines.
Mr. Matt commented that the setback will have to be
measured from the side lot lines, and should be 17 Feet.
Mr. Matt also recalled that the original sign, owned by
Manning Savings, was granted a variance by the ZBA because
of the former 500 Foot distance limitation. Since the
structure is being changed, there has been some discussion
about whether another variance is necessary. Mr. Hruby
will contact Mr. kaysa to determine what is required.
Ch. Larsen responded that the 500 foot rule no longer
exists. The Sign Code was changed to 250 feet between
signs. The AC can approve the aesthetics of the sign, with
placement and distance subject to the Building Department
interpretation.
Mr. Cilia said he can move the foundation, if necessary,
in order to comply with the required setback.
Com. Weissman made a motion to recommend approval of the
remodeled ( 3-sided ) pylon sign for St. Paul Federal Bank,
at the corner of Dundee Road and Buffalo Grove Road,
as submitted, subject to Building Department review of the
proper setback.
Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Ehrhardt,
Silbernik, Weissman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
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B. Expansion Wall - 999 Commerce Court
Building 52-M - Gottlieb Properties, Inc.
Mr. Sheldon Dobrin, Friedman, Dobrin and Assoc. , Ltd .
105 Revere Drive, Suite A, Northbrook, IL 60062 said
that after the building was approved last year, the
owner and developer of the property requested that the
West wall of Building 52-M be changed from face brick
to concrete block painted to match the brick , because
of cost: and because it is an expansion wall .
The Building Department was contacted and Mr. Dobrin
was advised to have the developer, Gottlieb Properties,
submit new drawings, with a letter to the Village
reflecting the request to change materials.
This was done, a permit was issued and the building is
under construction. A question arose when the
developer contacted the Building Department to confirm
the material change. _
Mr. Matt continued the explanation and said that when
the original plans were reviewed by the AC, face brick
was approve for all four sides of the building. It was
resubmitted, because of the material change.
Mr. Dobrin said the building can be expanded from
52,000 :sf. to 68,000 sf.. The front faces East and the
rear ( expansion ) wall faces the West property line.
There is a 6 foot berm and a 25 foot buffer zone
between the property and Weiland Road, which is the
closest street. The brick is a dark grey iron spot and
the proposed concrete block, sealed and stained, will
last several years.
The Commissioners had not objections. It was noted
that there is a brick return at each end of the
building.
Com. Gordon made a motion to approve the substitution
of concrete block for face brick on the West elevation
of Building 52-M at 999 Commerce Court.
Com. Silbernik seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Silbernik, Ehrhardt,
Bremner, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
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C. Parkchester Estates - Landscaping
Mr. John Green, Systems Design Group, Ltd. , 5999 Wilke Rd.
Suite 208, Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 ( 312) 439-5800 made
the presentation. He described the 43 acre site, which is
located on the east side of Weiland Rd. south of Busch Rd.
and north of Lake/Cook Rd.
To the north is unincorporated Lake County. and there is a
landscaping office to the north and west side. To the
north and east 2/3 is a light industrial area with a 50
foot building setback with and a foot bermed, landscaped
buffer.
To the south and southeast are Horatio Gardens and to the
West is Prairie View which is unincorporated with single
family homes.
To the west is more single family, with the detention area.
The site is R-4, single family zoning which requires 70 ft.
minimum frontage and many of lots are 80 feet, or wider.
The character of the development is similar to Westchester
and a number of the lots have been bought and resold.
The Park consists of 7.05 acres, with 2.5 acres is
detention and lake. The remaining 4.5 acres will he
active Park District. They have been working with the
Mr. 'like Ryiko to provide the type of park that will be
acceptable to the Park District and will meet the goal of
the Development Ordinance. The developer is only required
to provide land, but Scarsdale is going to provide grass
and will continue the bike path through the park, around
the lake and through the neighborhood. The bike path will
meander along Weiland, which is a bermed, planted area.
The berms will provide a sound and safety screen abutting
the single family lots. Trees and other plantings will
also be provided along Weiland.
The landscape plan submitted for park did not list the
names and number of plantings. Mr. Green distributed a
plant list and a plan identifying the locations.
The active park area will be 300 ' x 300 ' . It will not be
used for planned activities. Scarsdale is not required to
provide any equipment, but will put in a tot lot, soccer
practice area, and possibly some tennis courts. Them will
not be any parking, except along Weiland Avenue. They will
maintain as many existing trees on the site as possible.
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The Street Tree Planting Plan was described. The Marie
Ave. right-of-way will be annexed to the Village but will
probably not be completed because of the existing sanitary
sewer and water main. There are also engineering improve-
ments being developed along lots 1 - 17.
Three lots now have driveways along the Marie Avenue
right-of-way. Scarsdale will remove these driveways and
relocate them onto the owner's properties. Three small
tee-turnarounds will also be created to permit emergency
vehicles access. The right-of-way will be unpaved, but it
will be beamed and grass planted, but the area will be left
open. Trees will be saved wherever possible.
The plans have been submitted to the Engineering Department
and the homeowners are being contacted for approval.
The street trees will consist of the same trees as the park
area, and they are planted in sections of 3 to 5, so that
the species are mixed.
The models will be submitted at a later date. • They are the
same as Westchester, but the sizes are being increased and
because the corner lots ar•e larger, side load garages wi l]
be possible.
The Village Forester's reports were reviewed.
1 . Street: Trees: Mr . Green agreed to comply with all of
Mr. R.igsby 's Recommendations, including U3 with
reference to the spacing of parkway trees at 40 Feet,
and t}h with reference to the height of the evergreens
to be a minimum of 7 feet tall .
2. Park Area: The plan and the plant list was submitted
to the AC and will be given to Mr. Rigsby.
A resident on Newtown Drive who has requested that some
screening from car lights be provided and Scarsdale has
agreed to provide 3 Austrian Pines.
With reference to Recommendations *2 and *3, Mr. Green
said they have been working very closely with Mike
Rylko. Mr. Rylko is satisfied with the plan and has
said that the Park District will provide any additional
plant material that may be deemed necessary later.
Ch. Larsen asked that similar screening be provided for
the rear of Lot 5 (Marie Avenue) because it is at the end
of Margaret Avenue and car lights would be a problem.
Mr. Green agreed.
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Ch. Larsen asked that: the Austrian Pines in the park be
7 feet high. This is Mr. Rigsby 's usual recommendation.
Mr. Green agreed.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the Landscaping as
submitted for the proposed Parkchester Estate Park Area,
with the stipulation that the plans reviewed at this
meeting, be submitted to Mr. Rigsby for his review and
approval.
Also stipulated, the height of the Austrian Pines shall be
increased to a minimum of 7 Feet.
Corn. Silbernik seconded the motion.
With reference to the park access, #3 - the bike path will
go through and even though landscaping was not requested
by Mr. Rylko, but Mr. Rigsby must approve the entire plan.
Ch. Larsen commented that Scarsdale has done more than was
expected and the Park District will have to maintain it.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Ehrhardt,
Weissman, Silbernik and Larsen
NAY - None
,`lotion Passed - 6 to O.
tom. Weissman made a motion to approve the Parkchester
Estates :street Tree Planting Plan as submitted.
The petitioner agrees to meet all the stipulations and
recommendations on Mr. Rigby 's review dated April 21 , 1989.
Com. Silbernik seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Bremner, Ehrhardt,
Silbernik, Weissman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
D. Riverwalk - Milwaukee Avenue and Lake/Cook Road
Mr. John Mansfield of The Brickman Group, Ltd. , Landscape
Architects, Long Grove, IL 60047 ( 312 ) 438-8211 ,
represented Hamilton Partners. He described the site plan.
The main objectives were to create a special entry into the
motor court plaza, with a more pastoral effect around the
lake.
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The future overpass ramp is shown on the plan and the area
will be redesigned whenever the ramp is built, and a bike
path will also be included in the future plan.
The most predominant tree on the site will be the flowering
ornamental Bradford Pears. The entry monument sign will be
surrounded with seasonal flowers. The berming up to the
parking garage will be 3 feet high.
The area toward the lake is open from the terraced area but
is screened from the street. The existing Red Maple trees
will be moved to other locations on the site.
The Plaza will feature many of the Bradford Pear trees with
rows of Honey Locusts, which represent the towers.
Ch. Larsen noted that the plan calls for 5' to 6 ' Austrian
Pines and Mr. Rigsby usually recommends 7' minimum height,
but his review, dated April 25, 1989 does not so specify.
Mr. Mansfield said Brickman will not be planting any
unhealthy trees and they will be guaranteed, but they
will comply with Mr. Rigsby 's preference. Planting will
not be done until next spring.
Com.. Gordon made a motion to approve the Landscaping as
submitted by The Brickman -Group, Ltd for Riverwalk, with
the stipulation that Mr. Ray Rigsby may want to review the
height of the Austrian Pines.
Corn. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Weissman, Silbernik, Ehrhardt,
Bremner, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Matt reported that Malnati 's has purchased some land from
the county on Lake/Cook Road, so that they can put up a sign.
This land is actually in Wheeling.
The Appearance Commission has already approved a sign for Lake/
Cook Road identical to the sign on Buffalo Grove Road, but the
sign Malnati 's is proposing a different sign.
In conversation with Tom Fennell, Director of Building and
Zoning in Wheeling, Mr. Matt was told that the Wheeling Appear-
ance Commission is planning to approve the new design.
Mr. Balling has also been working with Wheeling 's Village
Manager to expedite Malnati 's opening.
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Because it is possible that the property may some day be
annexed to Buffalo Grove, it has been decided that after
Wheeling`s Appearance Commission has approved the sign for
Lake/Cook Road, Mr. Platt: will be bring it to the Buffalo Grove
Appearance Commission for the purpose of information.
The design that is being proposed for Lake/Cook Road will match
the sign with a crest in the shape of a shield that the Buffalo
Grove Appearance Commission approved for the west elevation.
The background will be clapboard to match the siding on the
building with the crest into the clapboard.
A permit has already been issued for the Buffalo Grove Rd. sign
and Mark Malnati has not indicated any desire to change it:.
Corn. Silbernik suggested that some of the B.G. Appearance
Commission members attend the Wheeling AC meeting.
Mr. Matt has been discussing the material for the rear wall of
the Plaza of Buffalo Grove with the developer. The plans that
were approved call for the drivet material on all four
elevations, but the developer wants to use concrete blocks.
VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Silbernik made a motion to ad_jour•n.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
C lr. Larsen adjourned the meeting at; 9:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Shirley Bates
Recording Secretary
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