1988-01-14 - Appearance Commission - Minutes 0
APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, JANUARY 14, 1988
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I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ed Larsen called the meeting to order at 7: 40 P.M. at the
Village Hall , on Thursday, January 14, 1988.
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: B. Owens, M. Mc Call , E. Bremner,
H. Riebman, C. Bruno and E. Larsen. QUORUM.
Commissioners Absent: D. Ehrhardt
Bldg. Dept. Liaison: Dominic J. Saviano, Jr. ,
Deputy Building Commissioner
Bldg. Inspectors: Michael Prettyman and Ed Schar
Village Board Liaison: Ms. Melanie Kowalski , Trustee
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 10, 1987 - Page Eight, 4. Signage - Paragraph 7:
Com. Owens comment about Winberies should read:
Winberies did not put up the sign that was
(insert) "originally" approved by the AC.
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Winberies did return to the AC to give an explanation for having the
the sign constructed with a painted plexiglas face instead of with
routed out aluminum as pr ' osed. The AC had agreed to permit it. °
Com. Owens made a motion to approve the minutes of Dec. 10, 1988 as
modified. Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: 'AYE - Owens, Bremner , Riebman , Larsen
NAY - None
ABSTAIN - Mc Call and Bruno
Minutes of Dec. 10, 1987 were approved and will be placed on file.
IV. BUSINESS
A. Windbrooke - The Zale Group
1 . Siqn on Weiland Road
Mr. Bob Nielsen, 100 Lexington Drive, Suite 100, B.G. , requested
that the existing Windbrooke Apartment sign now located at the
West side of Weiland Road , South of Busch Parkway, be moved
directly across the street to the East side of Weiland Road.
The owner of the property, Mel Eisenstein , has given his
permission for the sign to be put on his property.
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Com. Bremner mad ion to approve the rel6*_4tion of the
Windbrooke Apartment sign from the West side of Weiland Road to
the East side.
Com. Mc Call seconded the motion. �
Ch. Larsen stated the sign would now be an off-premise sign,
and would be permitted with the stipulation that the sign meet
all Village Code Requirements. '
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Owens, Mc Call , Bremner, Riebman ,
Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
2. Windbrooke - Liqhts on Entrance Monuments
Mr. Nielsen submitted a Site Plan of the Entrance Monuments on
each side of Windbrooke Drive, on the North side of Busch Pkwy.
and requested the addition of two ground mounted lights 10 feet
in front of each sign with landscaped screening (not boulders) .
He said that the tenants have requested lights so that guest can
locate the subdivision.
Mr. Saviano confirmed that the Building Dept. has received calls
because visitors cannot locate the Windbrooke Apts. at night.
Com. Mc Call commented that the concrete caps have not been
put
on top of the brick columns. '
Mr. Nielsen said thy have had a problem with the contractor and
the caps will be added.
' Com. Mc Call questioned the size of the light fixtures and said
they seem to be too large for the size of the sign.
Mr. Nielsen responded that Lisle Electric had selected the
fixture based upon the distance, with 70 Watt HPS lamps.
Ch. Larsen questioned the use of High Pressure Sodium as the
light source because it has color in it would change the color
of the sign, and suggested 100 watt White Mercury Vapor lamps.
Com. Owens said it was possible to get color corrected High
Pressure Sodium lamps.
Mr. Nielsen said he would not want to change the color of the
signs and would have no problem changing the light source.
He added that there are on-site resident maintenance people to
see that the lights do not shine into any apartments, etc.
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Com. Owens a motion to approve thk �ighting of the two
single faced Windbrooke signs at Busch Rd. and Windbrooke Drive
as submitted , with the stipulation that the light source be
color corrected.
Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Owens, Bremner , Reibman ,
Bruno and Larsen
NAY - Mc Call (Smaller fixtures could be used. )
Motion Passed - 5 to 1 .
Ch. Larsen informed Mr. Nielsen that smaller fixtures would be
acceptable.
3. Woodlands at Fiore - Cedar Color Options
Mr. Nielsen said that buyers are requesting cedar siding as an
option, instead of aluminum. He presented samples of the cedar
siding which will be stained , or painted , the same colors as the
aluminum siding would be. Color co-ordinated packages will
remain the same, and buyers cannot change. Because cedar is a
different material , the colors will have a slightly different
gloss and will weather differently.
Com. Mc Call made a motion to approve the Cedar Color Options as
submitted by Woodlands at Fiore.
Com. Owens seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bremner, Owens, Mc Call ,
Bruno, Riebman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
B. Mc Shane Construction Corp. /Colfax Envelope Corporation
Covinqton Corporation Center �- Temporary Construction Sipn
Mr. Mark Augustyn , Project Engineer for Mc Shane Const. Corp.
2604 E. Dempster , Suite 500, Des Plaines, IL 60016 (297-0220)
made the presentation of a Special Sign. The size will be
8 ' x 12 ' to be located atthe Northeast Corner of the driveway
into Covington Corporate Center off of Commerce Court.
The sign will remain up during construction. The colors will
be:
Mc Shane (left portion) - Green and Dark Beige with logo
Colfax (right portion) - Blue, Yellow and Red and the design
is from the corporate letterhead
The stripes between the sides of the sign will be Green.
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Ch. Larsen said S Code Sec. 14. 32. 040 - C uction Signs
states signs are not to exceed 64 square feet in commercial or
industrial districts.
Mr. Augustyn said he would agree to reduce the size to 64 sf.
. Coin. Mc Call made a motion to approve the Mc Shane/Colfax Sign
' as submitted, with the stipulaton that the size not exceed
64 square feet.
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Coin. Riebman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Owens, Bremner , Mc Call , Bruno,
Riebman and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
C. M. C. C. Powers/Covinqton Corporate Center - Temporary Siqn
Not submitted for review.
D. 1st Nationwide Bank , 1191 Mc Henry Road - Siqnaqe
Mr. Pat Ryan, Kieffer & Co. , 450 Old Skokie Rd, Park City, IL
made the presentation.
1 . Wall Sign - Uptown Federal Savings is being purchased by
1st Nationwide Bank. The 3 ' x 28 ' wall sign on the Wessst
elevation will be replaced with a new sign the same size.
Colors - Green translucent background with White copy.
1st Nationwide Bank is owned by Ford Motor Company and this
will be the first one in this area.
2. Pole Sign - The bank has a severe identification problem
because there is only the one wall sign , and it is on the
West elevation. A ground sign at the Northwest corner of
the problem would give exposure to Route 83. It will be
4 '6" x 10 ' and mounted on a 10 ' pole. It will meet the
setback requirements.
Colors - Same as the Wall Sign and both signs will be
internally illuminated. Mr. Ryan explained the application
process which will eliminate dark spots which can occur in
coloring plexiglas. The White appears Black at night.
3. Window Signs were described, and they are acceptable.
Ch. Larsen suggested covering the pole with a brick column.
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Com. Ow�� suggested a ground sign � .mld be seen better
because trees will obsure the pole sign.
Mr. Ryan said the pole sign was submitted because they
wanted to keep the sign as simple as possible, but they
would consider a monument sign.
Ms. Laura G. Adams, V. P. with Uptown Federal , was present.
She said they could review the suggestions and return with
a proposal at the next meeting.
Com. Larsen commented that each Commissioner has an opinion ,
and the AC can vote on the pole sign as submitted. and it is
acceptable, under the Sign Code. But if the AC should deny
the sign , the petitioners can go to the Village Board with
an appeal .
Ch. Larsen would prefer to have the height of the pole sign ,
because the heavy traffic on Arlington Heights Road would
block a ground sign. However , in his opinion , the pole sign
submitted does not have the quality of a bank sign.
Mr. Ryan and Ms. Adams agreed that they would prefer to have
the higher sign for identification. The pole could have a
12" to 18" dark bronze cover , or it could be bricked in.
Com. Bremner 's opinion was to use brick which would match
the building.
Ch. Larsen said they can make a decision now and the AC can
approve the sign. If the California people do not agree with
the proposal , the petitioners can return for discussion.
If brick is chosen, the sign can be put up in mid-February
and the brick added later. The Sign Code requires some
shrubbrey around the base of pole signs.
Ms. Adams said she agreed with the brick suggestion and
the design will be submitted to Mr. Saviano for AC approval .
She also agreed that they would include the shrubbrey.
Com. Owens made a motion to approve the following signage
submitted by 1st Nationwide Bank:
1. the replacement of the single faced wall sign as
submitted.
2. the double-faced pole sign as submitted ,
with the addition of a brick column around
the pipe structure. New drawing to be submitted
to the Bldg. Dept. prior to installation.
3. window graphic sign as submitted.
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Coin. Bruno sec� �jed the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Mc Call , Bremner , Owens,
Riebman, Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
E. Arbor Creek - Lots 6 and 7, Full Reviews
' Office/Warehouse Buildinqs on Asbury Drive
Presentation made by:
Bert Hamilton, V.P. /Treas. ,Nicplson porter and List Inc. ,
1300 W. Higgins Road, Park Ridge, Il 60068 (698-7400)
Gary Wallsten , Harris & Kwasek Architects, Inc.
4811 Emerson Avenue, Palatine, Il 60067 (303-1155)
Mr. Hamilton began by describing the 370,000 square feet of
property, formerly the Leider Property) , which has been sub- '
divided into 7 lots. Lots 6 and 7 will be developed as office/
warehouse buildings.
1 . Lot 6 - Northwest Corner of Asbury Drive
Single user small industrial building , consisting of
37300 sf . of office space and 15,000 sf . of warehouse space.
The building will be 18 feet clear height with a building
area of 38.9% conforming will all B. G. zoning and building
requirements. Parking for 20 cars will be provided.
a. Materials: Glass - Royal Blue Reflective
Brick - Utility size (4" x 12" )
Color - Palamino (Salmon)
Pre-Cast Concrete Wall Panels, with Random Rake
finish , Stained Off-White - Similar to
Core-Wall /Price Bros. or Fab-Con/MN
Window Frames - Clear Anodized Aluminum
(NOT Dark Bronze, as shown)
Over-Head Doors - Stained to match brick
Accents "Dots" - Cut Stone, natural Grey finish
Mortar - Natural Grey tone
Coin. Mc Call questioned the use of the pre-cast material on the
West elevation. Division of the brick areas is unattractive
Mr. Kwasek responded that cost is one factor and the brick calls
attention to the more finished office and dock areas, while
letting the ware-house portion become a backdrop for the brick.
Coin. Owens suggested carrying the pre-cast all the way back to
really distinguish the office portion.
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Mr. Kwasek answered that this was an aesthetic decision made to
carry some of the office finish material to the dock area.
Roof top units will be will be screened per Village Ordinances.
There will be unit heaters on top of the building , but they do
not know how much air conditioning will be required until after
the building is leased.
Coin. Bremner made a motion to approve the Elevations and the
Materials selected for Building 6 on Asbury Drive as submitted.
Coin. Riebman seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Riebman , Bremner , Owens, Larsen
NAY - Mc Call (for reason stated above)
Motion Passed - 5 to 1 .
b. Lot 6 - Landscapinq:
The Village Forester 's Review was favorable and Mr. Kwasek said
they will comply with the recommendations.
Coin. Owens made a motion to approve the Landscaping for Lot 6
on Asbury Drive as submitted , subject to the Village Forester 's
Recommendations, dated Jan. 13, 1988.
Coin. Mc Call seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bremner , Owens, Mc Call , Riebman ,
Bruno and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
c. Lot 6 - Liqhtinq:
Truck dock/above doors - Shielded wall mounted fixture,
Cordova III , clear anodized finish;
400 watt, Metal Halide
Entrance Walks - Ground Square Bollard Lights, 3 feet tall ;
clear anodized finish; 100 Watt Merc. Vapor
All Code Requirements will be met.
Coin. Mc Call made a motion to approve the Lighting for Lot 6 on
Asbury Drive as submitted.
Coin. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Riebman , Bruno, Mc Call , Owens,
Bremner and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
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2. Lot 7 - Asbury....,rive
Office/Warehouse Building with 4,400 sf . of office space and
about 15,200 sf . of warehouse space, totaling 19,600 sf .
Clear height within the building is 18 feet. Site density
of 40.9% and provision for parking 25 cars, with 5 future
spaces, if needed.
Materials: Office - Synthetic Plaster , Dover Sky - Grey
Sandblasted finish (stone appearance)
Glass - Royal Blue Reflective (Same as Lot 6)
Frames - Clear anodized aluminum
Warehouse - Pre-Cast Concrete Wall Panel ,
Stained Cool Off-White,
Finish - Random Rake (standard)
Overhead Doors - Blue, painted to match glass
Pre-cast material over doors
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The colors of the synthetic plaster and wall panels are not
meant to match. The off-white pre-cast panels of the warehouse
will have shadows and will weather, so that the colors will be
complimentary, but will have some subtle contrast.
Mr. Kwasek commented that these buildings will be tied together
by using the same glass, and most likely, each of the other 5
buildings will also have some common elements.
Com. Mc Call made a motion to approve the Elevations and
Material selections as submitted for Lot 7 on Asbury Drive.
Com. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Riebman, Bremner , Owens,
Mc Call and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
b. Lot 7 - Landscapinq:
The Village Forester 's Review was favorable, and Mr. Kwasek
said they will comply with the recommendations.
Com. Bremner made a motion to approve the Landscaping of Lot 7
on Asbury Drive as submitted, subject to the Village Forester 's
Recommendations, dated January 13, 1988.
Com. Owens seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Riebman, Bremner , Owens,
Mc Call and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
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c. Liqhtink..��' Lot 7 on Asbury Drive
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The same light fixtures will be used for Lots 6 and 7, to tie
these two buildings together. It is very likely that the same
fixtures will be used throughout the development.
Coin. Mc Call made a motion to approve the Lighting as submitted
for Lot 7 on Asbury Drive.
Coin. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Mc Call , Owens, Bremner , Riebman ,
Bremner and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
Mr. Saviano asked if there will be exterior dumpsters?
Mr. Kwasek said that trash will probably be handled inside the
buildings. If outside dumpsters are necessary, they will
conform with Village standards.
' F. Bentley Place - South of Highland Oaks on Weiland Road
Sales Trailer/Parkinq Lot/Siqnaqe
Presentation was made by Thomas Shannon , Shannon Assoc. , Ltd.
210 Quail Ridge Drive, Westmont , IL 60559 - 665-0960.
Mr. Shannon described the Bentley Place/Townhome Development ,
located on the West side of Weiland Road, South of the Highland
Oaks Shopping Center (South of Busch Road) . There will be 38
Townhomes. The site plan was described. Only the Sales Trailer
was presented at this time.
1 . Specifications of Trailer: Leased from Jelco Company
24 ' x 44 ' (double width)
Skirted all the way around
Colors - Light and Dark Grey
Deck/Stairs - Cedar
Parking Area - Stone
Double windows and french doors
The model building should be completed within 1 year and the
sales trailer will then be removed.
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Coin. Reibman made a motion to approve the Bentley Place Sales
Trailer as submitted.
Coin. Bremner seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Reibman , Bremner , Owens,
Mc Call and Larsen
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
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2. Landscapinq n on Site Plan. Mr. S& Jano said that
the Village Forester has reviewed the Landscaping , and it is
acceptable, but there are no written comments.
Com. Owens made a motion to approve the Landscaping for the
Bentley Place Sales Trailer as submitted.
Com. Mc Call seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Reibmen, Bremner , Owens,
Mc Call and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
3. Sipn - There is a 10 ' x 10 ' sign on the property, but this
is Zale 's Windbrooke Apt. sign that is to be moved across
Weiland Road (refer to Agenda Item A - 1 ) . Mr. Shannon
assumes that the sign goes with the property.
If a new sign is erected, it will be double-faced and
perpendicular to Weiland Road. The ends will be boxed.
Colors: Background - Forest Green
Lettering - Bentley Place - Gold
Border - Gold
Other lettering - White
. ' Phone number not as shown. Will be assigned later.
Com. Bremner made a motion to approve the Bentley Place
sign as submitted. Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Mc Call , Owens, Bremner, Reibman ,
Bruno, and Larsen
NAY - None `
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
4. Liqhtinq of Bentley Place Siqn
Crouse-Hinds fixtures with 175 Watt Helite bulbs. The lighting
desired is the same as at Cherbourg. Two lights mounted at the
top of the sign and shining down. They will be positioned so
that they do not shine out into the traffic.
Com. Owens made a motion to approve Lighting for the Bentley
Place sign as presented. Com. Mc Call seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Bruno, Riebman , Bremner , Owens,
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 6 to 0.
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V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
1 . Ch. Larsen wished everyone a Happy New Year.
2. Welcome to Charisse Bruno, the new Appearance Commissioner.
3. Mr. Savinao introduced two of the Building Inspectors who came
to observe and become familiar with the Appearance Commission 's
proceedings:
Mr. Ed Schar (former AC Commissioner)
Mr. Mike Prettyman
4. Ch. Larsen asked Mr. Saviano to schedule an Orientation Session
for all the AC Commissioners, with Mr. Hruby and Mr. Raysa
present.
The purpose is to re-evaluate the proceedings and acquaint the
new commissioners with the proceedings of the AC.
A tentative time would be after the Jan. 28th meeting. So far
there are only three items for the Agenda.
The Commissioners would prefer this to having a special meeting
on an off-night.
5. Mr. Saviano announced that there is a possiblilty that he will
be resigning as Deputy Building Commissioner to become a full
time Fire Department employee. He would still be working with
the Building Department, but he would do all the fire prevention
work for the Village. He has been doing this work along with
his other responsibilities, but it now requires many more
hours. The decision has been difficult , but if the Village
Board approves Dominic 's application , he will retire in May.
6. Ch. Larsen asked Dominic to look at the Strathmore Shopping
Center signs. The Jelly Bowl lights are still on and many
of the lights on the White Hen Pantry sign are out.
7. Com. Owens commented the Federal Express sign is not yet boxed.
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VI . ADJOURNMENT
Com. Owens made a motion to adjourn.
Com. Bruno seconded the motion.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 9:24 P. M.
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Respecfully submitted,
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Shirley Bates, Secretary
Appearance Commission
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