1988-08-25 - Appearance Commission - Minutes I
APPEARANCE COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS
THURSDAY, AUGUST 25, 1988
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ed Larsen called the meeting of the Buffalo Grove
Appearance Commission to order at 7:40 P.M. on Thursday,
August 25, 1988.
II . ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: D. Ehrhardt, R. Gordon, E. Larsen.
Commissioners Absent: E. Bremner, C. Bruno, M. Silbernik,
and F. Weissman.
Bldg. Dept. Liaison: Charles Matt,
Deputy Building Commissioner
Building Inspector: Ed Schar
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
August 11 , 1988 - Com. Gordon made a motion to approve as
submitted. Com. Ehrhardt seconded.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Ehrhardt, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0. Minutes of August 11 , 1988 approved
and will be placed on file.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. Crest Hil Hotel (Hilton) - Tabled on July 28, 1988
Presentation made by Mr. Joel Pious and Mr. Allan Picus,
Allan M. Pious Architects, 1220 Grand Avenue, Waukegan,
IL 60085 (336-5490; and Mr. Bob Bogart, Federal Signs,
140 W. Tower Drive, Burr Ridge, IL 60521
1 . Trash Enclosure - Plan dated August 8, 1988 was
described by Mr. Joel Picus. The trash enclosure will
have a single swinging gate, mounted on wheels. The
outside will be stucco panel, with a drivit finish coat,
to match the design of the building. It will have cross
bracing and metal stud sheathing inside. s� 1e
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Ch. Larsen suggested installation of if' rub rail to
protect the doors from damage when dumpster is emptied.
Mr. Hatt informed Mr. Pious that the Code requires a
double gate and a four sided structure.
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Mr. Picus responded that this is a service area and
deliveries will also be made through this enclosure.
There are actually four sides and there is sufficient
screening
Ch. Larsen said this is a technical decision that will
have to be made by the Building Department.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the
Trash Enclosure submitted by Crest Hil Hotel,
subject to Building Department approval.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
2. Landscaping
Mr. Allan Picus described the revised Landscaping Plan.
The Village Forester reviewed the plan, August 18, 1988,
and the only recommendation is to provide parkway trees
along Lake-Cook Road. The new plan is acceptable.
Mr. Picus agreed and added that they will substitute a
Thornless Hawthorne variety for the Washington Hawthorne.
Also, they have increased the caliper of all the trees in
the front and along the sides by about 1 inch.
The sign will be located at the second driveway because
they could not meet the 250 feet requirement. It will
situated on a berm with low landscaping around the base,
similar to the other signs at Buffalo Grove Business Park.
Trees will encircle the retention basin.
They have about 110 feet of frontage on Lake-Cook Rd.
Com. Larsen commented that the required setback for the
ground sign is 10 feet, not 25 feet as proposed. He also
advised that the sign be double faced, perpendicular to
Lake-Cook Road. The AC can approve the landscaping and
concept of the signage, but the location of the sign can
be changed when they apply for the permit.
Mr. Picus said they will discuss the sign with the Hilton
people when they have a final review, and Mr. Larsen's
suggestions will be considered.
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Com. Gordon made a motion to approve the Landscaping
for Crest Hil Hotel as submitted, subject to the
Village Forester's Review dated August 18, 1988.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
3. Site Lighting:
a. The Exterior Parking Lot Fixtures will match the
lighting in the Buffalo Grove Business Park.
b. The Sidewalk Bollards are 8 inch round, 36" tall.
The fixtures are dark bronze, per cut sheets in booklet
Ch. Larsen noted that the Utility Plan, dated Apr. 8, 1988
shows the location of a gas meter and transformer. He
asked for some landscape screening to be added.
Mr. Picus indicated that there will be landscaping in the
area and screening of these utilities has been anticipated
Com. Gordon made a motion to approve the Lighting as
proposed for Crest Hil Hotel.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Ehrhardt, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
4. Signage:
Mr. Bob Bogart described the two proposed ground signs:
a. Lake-Cook Road - 5'3" x 9'2" - Base is 1 '6"
Sign will be single faced.
b. Weidner Road - 3'6" x 6'1" - Base is 1 '
Sign will be double faced.
The signs are constructed per the specifications listed in
the booklet submitted: Colors are Green with Ivory copy.
The back of the single faced sign will be matching Green.
Ch. Larsen repeated his concern about the proposed single
face sign on Lake-Cook Road not giving enough exposure and
asked the representatives consider his suggestions.
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Can. Ehrhardt agreed that the Lake-Cook Road sign should
double faced. He made the following motion:
I move we approve the two ground signs
as submitted for Crest Hil Hotel:
1 . Lake-Cook Road - Single Face
2. Weidner Road - Double Face
Recommendation is subject to the Building
Department's approval of location and size.
Can. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
Mr. Bogart asked for approval of a single faced temporary
sign to be located on Lake-Cook Road, set back 10 feet.
Colors will be Green Background with Ivory and Red copy.
Back of sign and 4" posts will also be painted Green.
It will be located farther east than the permanent sign.
Ch. Larsen questioned whether there will be a distance
conflict with the existing signage on Lake-Cook Road and
the signage that is to be submitted by the next
petitioner? He asked Mr. Matt how approval would be
determined?
Mr. Matt replied that permits are issued as they are
submitted, according to date.
Mr. Tim Beechick of Hamilton Partners was present. He
presented an overall site plan of the Buffalo Grove
Business Park and stated that there would be sufficient
distance between the Federal Express sign and Crest Hil
sign, if the Crest Hil sign is relocated to the east.
Therefore, Ch. Larsen directed that additional motions
be made recommending that the Zoning Board of Appeals
also recommend variances for the proposed Buffalo Grove
Business Park signage. He suggested combining signage.
Mr. Beechick said he realized there needs to be more about
this signage and added that he does not oppose a combined
sign, but Hilton does. If this cannot be accomplished,
then one of the businesses would have to apply for a
variance.
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Mr. Picus agreed that combined signage would be the best
solution, and said they will try to work with Mr. Bogart
to design a sign that will maintain Hilton's integrity.
Because this is the first U.S. Crest Hil, there are some
problems with corporate policy.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the temporary sign
as submitted for Crest Hil Hotel.
Coin. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to recommend to the ZBA
approval of a recommendation to the Village Board of
Trustees for the granting of a variance to permit less
than 250 feet spacing between ground signs.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
Mr. Picus recalled that the AC asked for a description of
the tennis courts that are shown on the Landscape Plan.
There will be two double courts surrounded with Dark Green
plastic covered fencing. There will be no lighting.
Ch. Larsen said the tennis courts were acceptable. The AC
had been concerned about the possibility of lighting.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. Buffalo Grove Business Park - Signage
Mr. Tim Beechick, Hamilton Partners, Inc. , 1130 Lake-Cook
Road, Buffalo Grove, IL 60089 (459-9225) made the
presentation and described each sign:
A. New Monument Sign at the northeast corner of
Lake-Cook Rd. and Weidner; To be consistent
with existing B.G. Business Park signs.
B. Monument Sign on Arlington Heights Road - Change
the copy to reflect addresses: 135, 165, 195.
C. New Monument Sign for Zierk's Furniture Store -
On Lake-Cook Road, in front of building.
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D. New Monument Sign for Federal Express -
Lake-Cook Road entrance to building.
E. Existing Temporary Sign - Revised Copy.
F. New Temporary Sign - 195 Arlington Heights Road
Mr. Beechick said the two new monument signs will be the
same as the existing ground signs.
Ch. Larsen commented that Signs A and D will both require
variances. Hamilton Partners are still the owners of the
Hilton Crest Hil property.
Mr. Beechick said he understood they will need to file for
variances. He is asking aesthetic approval at this time.
With regard to the Zierk's Monument Sign, Ch. Larsen
commented that 6 inch letters are too small for a business
sign that is not even located at an entrance to the
property. He suggested a combination sign with Sign A,
and an additional sign off of Weidner. The AC can approve
the aesthetics only, and the locations can be changed.
With regard to signage for the proposed restaurant at
Weidner, Mr. Beechick said they would probably use wall
signs only.
Federal Express brick and granite will match the building.
It will have two reveals and brass back lit lettering.
There will not be any pick-ups or deliveries, except for a
drop-off box at the rear of the property, with a back-lit
sign for night-time hours.
There were no questions or objections to the proposed
signs.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the four monument
structures submitted for Buffalo Grove Business Park:
Sign A - New identification sign, L/C Rd.
Sign B - Modified existing sign, Arl. Hts. Rd.
Sign C - New Zierk's monument sign
Sign D - Permanent Federal Express sign
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
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Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to recommend to the Zoning
Board of Appeals, that they recommend variations, as
required for spacing between signs for Signs A and D.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
Mr. Beechick described the two temporary marketing signs.
Sign E will be repainted the same colors for the one story
building at 195 Arlington Heights Road that is nearing
completion.
Com. Gordon made a motion to approve Sign E as submitted.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Ehrhardt, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
Sign F will be a new temporary sign on Lake-Cook Road
east of Weidner Road.
Com. Gordon made a motion to approve Sign F as submitted.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Ehrhardt, Gordon and Larsen
NAY - None
Notion Passed - 3 to 0.
Buffalo Statue: Mr. Beechick presented photographs of a
similar bronze buffalo and described its construction.
It will be over 7 feet tall and 8-1/2 feet long. It will
be set back 25 feet per requirements for structures. It
is not considered a sign. There will be security lights.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the appearance and
location of the proposed bronze buffalo monument as
submitted, to be located on Lake-Cook Road near the lake.
Cam. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
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B. Chrysler/Plymouth - Pylon Signs
Presentation was made by Bill Sheehan, Ahern Sign Company,
3257 So. Harding Avenue, Chicago, IL 66023 (254-0717)
The owner Mr. Chuck Clifford was also present.
One pylon sign will be located in front of the business at
925 W. Dundee Road. It will be an 8' x 9' flag mounted
pole sign 20 feet high and set back 20 feet. Frontage of
lot is 224 feet. The distance from the Nissan and Toyota
is sufficient. Colors will be Blue and White.
Second pylon is identical and will be located on Old
Arlington Heights Road. Height and setback also 20 feet.
Ch. Larsen asked Mr. Matt to verify the zoning of this
property to determine the proper setback - 20 or 25 feet.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve the two pylon signs
as presented by Clifford Chrysler Plymouth on Dundee Road,
with the stipulation that the bases have appropriate
landscaping.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
Fascia signage will be submitted at a later date.
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Bentley Place - Exit lights. Cut sheets were submitted
to the Building Department for AC approval.
Front doors will have be solid brass fixtures and rear
patio doors will have typical small fixtures.
Com. Ehrhardt made a motion to approve lighting fixtures
as submitted for Bentley Place.
Com. Gordon seconded the motion.
Roll Call Vote: AYE - Gordon, Ehrhardt and Larsen
NAY - None
Motion Passed - 3 to 0.
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B. Mr. Matt asked his statement on Page One of the
August 11 , 1988 minutes about Covington Corporate
Center signage be amended. Only Corporate Grove and
Arbor Creek have signage covenants included in the
annexation agreements. He has brought two Arbor Creek
signs to the AC for recommendation before submission
for Mr. Balling's final approval.
C. Mr. Matt will be on vacation Sept. 9, 1988 and Ed Schar
be representing the Building Department.
D. The Ranch Mart sign is in bad disrepair and Mr. Matt
said the managers have been given until Monday, 8/29/88,
to submit a solution to the problem, or a citation will
be issued.
E. Jelly Bowl 's sign is still illuminated and the Shopping
Center manager said the work us under contract, but the
company has not come out yet to disconnect the sign, etc.
F. Chiropractor Sign at Spoerlein Commons also has the
repainting of the sign under contract, but it takes time
for someone to come out to do the work.
G. 1st Nationwide Bank is also under contract to have the
brick work done. The electrical work should be completed.
VII . ADJOURNMENT
Cow►. Gordon made a motion to adjourn.
Com. Ehrhardt seconded the motion.
Voice Vote - AYE Unanimously.
Ch. Larsen adjourned the meeting at 9:21 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Shirley Bates, Secretary
Appearance Commission
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