1990-03-21 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Checker Square Shopping Center
March 21, 1990
Chairman Sheldon called the Public Hearing to order at 7:30 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Rubin
Mr. Rosenston
Mr. Charlette
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Rhodes
Also Present: Mr. Lawrence Freedman, Attorney
Mr. Gold
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
Chairman Sheldon read the Notice of Public Hearing as published in the Buffalo
Grove Herald, explained the format of the meeting and swore in Messrs. Gold and
Freedman.
Exhibits presented at the meeting were the Preliminary Plan, Exhibit A, the
Landscaping Plan, Exhibit B, and the Site Utility Plan, Exhibit E.
Mr. Freedman explained that following denial of a plan presented last year, a
committee of staff and Plan Commission representatives met to resolve issues
pertaining to landscaping, height and elevations. Additionally, Tracy Cross, a
marketing expert, was hired to present a study regarding marketability of the
proposed development. Meetings were also held with interested residents in the
neighborhood to address issues of screening, with respect to the nature of the
proposed berming and landscaping, and concerns relating to connecting their
fences to close off the area.
As a result of these meetings, Mr. Freedman stated it is proposed that the
existing fence on the property be relocated and the landscaping be placed on
the homeowners' side of the fence, thereby screening the fence from them. It
was proposed easements would be granted to the homeowners for the strip of
property located on their side of the fence because they would be required to
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maintain the landscaping, and also allowing them the right to place
perpendicular fences to join up the fence along the back of the property.
Mr. Freedman explained the proposed easements were discussed with Mr. Raysa as
well as an alternative now proposed to deed the strip of property to the
respective homeowners in light of the fact that the developer would not have
access to that property. This would require the requested variations for
setbacks. It was determined, however, that because the purpose of such
variations was to invest the homeowners with title to the property they would
be required to maintain and nothing on the site plan would physically change as
a result, this was a reasonable basis for such variations.
Mr. Freedman added that they would be installing the landscaping on the
homeowners' side of the fence and would provide and enforce for the homeowners'
benefit standard contractors guarantees regarding the landscaping.
Mr. Gold reviewed the changes to the plan made as a result of previous
workshops, including the increase in the width of the driveway at Buffalo Grove
Road to create a right-in and right-out area, and the enlargement of the
driveway along Checker Road. Also, Mr. Gold noted four parking stalls at the
rear of the center have been removed. Mr. Gold indicated the fence in the rear
ill of the property was moved 18i ft. to the east and south to bring it to the top
of the berm with all shrubs and trees planted on the homeowners' side of the
fence. Mr. Gold explained that although the relocation of the fence changes
their rear yard to 36i ft. , their buildings still remain the same distance from
the homeowners.
Mr. Gold stated that any utilities other than public utilities have been moved
inside of the fence line so no storm or sanitary lines would be located on the
homeowners side of the fence.
Mr. Gold reviewed the building elevations stating that they have reduced the
height of the buildings in the front so that the majority has a height of 17i
ft. Other small sections where there are hip roofs rise to 20 ft. , the maximum
height at any point, consisting of about 20% of the overall length of the
property. In the rear of the building along the north and west property lines,
the height will be 13 ft. All mechanical units will be screened with a metal
standing seam roof of material similar to the overhanging canopies in the hip
roof areas on the front.
Mr. Gold noted they have introduced in the front a variety of fixed awnings,
overhanging canopies and hip roof portico areas to give variety and a
street-type look.
Commissioner Rubin commented that he had always had concerns about the approved
B-3 use for the property as a strip center, and also noted that the marketing
report from Tracy Cross had predicated conclusions on the fact that Town Center
be considered a regional center, to which it has failed to establish itself.
Commissioner Rubin also commented that although they have dressed up the look
of the center, he had hoped to see something more creative presented to get
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awayfrom the L-shaped center concept, citingthe Crossings as an example. He
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stated he is not comfortable with the physical layout of the center. He noted
the improvements in the buffering to the residential are excellent.
Commissioner Rubin expressed concern regarding the outlots and not knowing what
uses will be made of them, noting as example disapproval of certain uses such
as a video store or yogurt store. He noted that with the senior citizen
housing coming in across the street, certain uses could make the center viable.
Mr. Freedman indicated they had and are willing to make the commitment to come
back for Plan Commission and Trustee approval for any use of the outlots.
Commissioner Howard also expressed concern with respect to outlots as they
increase congestion in a center, and suggested consideration be given to
removing one of the outlots.
Commissioner Howard indicated a third lane on Checker should be shown on the
plans. Discussion followed with Mr. Pfeil and Mr. Kuenkler regarding studies
being made by the Lake County Director of Transportation, and Mr. Gold and Mr.
Freedman indicated they were agreeable to making it a condition that it be
shown on the plan.
Commissioner Howard then asked about the construction of the fence on the edge
of the berm which was briefly discussed and explained.
Commissioner Charlette asked what materials would be used in creating the berm
to keep it in place. Mr. Gold explained that they are attempting to keep the
slope to a maximum of 2.6 to 1 so it won't be too steep, but that there are
various techniques to establish the berm. The shrubbery and other plantings
would be made on flats so there would be no concern with those.
Commissioner Goldspiel questioned the design of the driveways on Buffalo Grove
Road and Checker Road stating the wider entrance on Buffalo Grove Road would
encourage people to go in the wrong way and evade the porkchop. It was
suggested one-in and one-out would be preferable and Mr. Gold stated he could
build an island between the two drives and spread them out. Commissioner
Braiman noted the need to provide sufficient room for semi-trucks to be able to
make a hard right into the drive.
Commissioner Goldspiel commented on the trend to providing additional
commercial footage in outlots rather than it being added to the primary
development. Mr. Gold explained that it is a trend in the marketplace that
many businesses desire a freestanding building to preserve their individual
identity. In response to a question from Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Gold
noted that the types of businesses expressing interest in freestanding outlot
buildings are eye care centers, furriers and a gourmet food operation.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked who would control the architecture of any outlot
use, and Mr. Gold indicated the management of the center would control that and
would want it compatible to the design of the center. Commissioner Goldspiel
stated special attention would have to be given to landscaping in front of the
outlots.
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Commissioner Goldspiel asked for further explanation regarding the reason to
convey ownership of the 18i ft. buffer strip to residents as opposed to
granting easements. Mr. Freedman stated it does not make sense to continue to
maintain ownership on property they will not be able to get to, use or
maintain, and by granting ownership to the residents they would be free to do
what they wish with regard to changing or replacing the landscaping.
Additionally, Mr. Freedman stated it is preferable to the homeowner when
selling to have his property run to the fence rather than explain an easement.
Commissioner Goldspiel commented that the stated reasons do not establish a
hardship because it is self-created, and therefore do not really provide
justification for granting a variation. With respect to hardship, Mr. Freedman
noted that it would be difficult for them to insure the area if they had no
access to it or control of it, and it would be difficult for the homeowners to
insure it if they do not have ownership.
Commissioner Goldspiel indicated he does not see any reason to move the fence
or have a fence if the plantings provide a sufficient visual screen. Mr.
Freedman explained the residents' desire for the fence was for security as
people will walk through planted materials.
Commissioner Goldspiel noted that the purpose of the Zoning Ordinance is to
separate uses and if the homeowners are granted an additional 18i ft. they then
have the potential to expand their living area that much closer to the
commercial development.
Commissioner Krug indicated that although they have maintained the L-shaped
concept, they have done a good job in providing variety. He also stated his
objection to the outlots.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there were presently any clients for the
outlots. Mr. Gold stated they have not yet begun to market the outlots. In
response to another question from Commissioner Rosenston, Mr. Gold further
stated they will landscape the outlots before they are leased.
Commissioner Rosenston stated that if the berm was moved back to the property
line and raised up, it would put a slope into the homeowners' back yards and he
is therefore in favor of moving the fence out and deeding the property over.
Commissioner Braiman asked Mr. Raysa to explain his reasons for deeding the
property to the residents rather than granting easements. Mr. Raysa stated it
is an unusual circumstance and the homeowners with deed simple would have more
rights in the property than with an easement, and there is no need for an
easement if it is not going to be used. Brief discussion followed regarding
what public utilities easements might already fall in this property area.
Commissioner Braiman confirmed that the Village would not have any need or
preference to work with one owner over another.
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Commissioner Goldspiel asked about concerns that had been expressed by
residents concerning flooding and whether in deeding over, responsibility for
any flooding would then move to the residents. Mr. Kuenkler explained that the
problems with flooding related to the grading of the swail and the Village
already has access to the 16-ft. utility easement within which the drainage
swail is located, so no responsibilities in that regard would be affected.
Commissioner Braiman indicated he has no problem with the concept of the
outlots if they come in for review prior to their development, but he does feel
there could have been more creative treatment given to the design of the
commercial center.
In response to a question from Chairman Sheldon, Mr. Gold described the type of
brick to be used on the center as face brick in an earth tone compatible with
what is used at Town Center.
Commissioner Charlette expressed further concern about semi-trucks turning into
the center and cars stacking while a truck attempts to turn. Mr. Gold
explained they will have semi-trucks come in the service drive around the back
of the center which will be posted as one-way.
Discussion followed regarding the possibility and effects of residents being
able to build further into their yards and thereby closer to the commercial if
additional land was granted.
Mr. Steve Raines, 301 Vintage, stated he believes it is not a reasonable
concern because the bermed area and landscape buffer takes up a major portion
of this additional land and therefore any expansion is not likely as it would
use up most of any yard.
Mr. Simon Edelstein, 303 Vintage, indicated that in meetings of the residents
discussing alternatives concerning the property, they feel it is preferable to
have title to that and they do not have concerns now about being too close to
the development because of the buffer provided.
Commissioner Rosenston asked who would be responsible for extension of the
homeowners' fences once the commercial property fence is moved back 18i ft.
Chairman Sheldon noted that in workshop sessions the residents had indicated
that if the developer provides the landscaping and a fence, they would be
willing to do whatever else was necessary as a result of the movement of the
fence, including extending their fences to tie into that new location. Mr.
Gold confirmed that they would be responsible for maintaining the fence and
will be moving some existing portions and replacing those in poor shape.
One resident present expressed concern regarding dirt left from establishment
of the berm, and Mr. Freedman explained they would guarantee establishment of
the berm and enforce landscaping contract guarantees to the homeowners.
Another resident asked if there would be any limitations on the types of
businesses allowed with concern in regard to hours of operation. Mr. Pfeil
reviewed the types of special uses that would have to come in for special
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review. Mr. Edelstein asked if restrictions could be made on operating hours
or hours for truck traffic and unloading. Commissioner Goldspiel noted it
presents a problem to establishing the center's viability if too many
restrictions are imposed. Mr. Raysa clarified the ordinance relating to hours
of operation for commercial abutting residential. Commissioner Goldspiel asked
if the movement of the property line would affect application of that
ordinance, which it would not.
There being no further comments, Chairman Sheldon closed the hearing at 9:05
P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
R0 EMARY ALLEN ecording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Cc,
BARBARA SHELDON, Chairman
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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Checker Square Shopping Center
Zoning Ordinance Amendment - Building Connectors
Landis and Gyr Powers
l Cherbourg Unit 2, No. 57
v March 21, 1990
Chairman Sheldon called the Regular Meeting to order at 9:06 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Rubin
Mr. Rosenston
Mr. Charlette
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Rhodes
Also Present: Mr. Lawrence Freedman, Attorney
Mr. Gold
Mr. Mark Christensen, Developer for Landis and Gyr
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Rosenston and seconded by Commissioner Howard to approve
the minutes of the Special Meeting of January 31, 1990, subject to correction
of typographical errors. The motion passed unanimously.
Moved by Commissioner Rubin and seconded by Commissioner Charlette to approve
the minutes of the Public Hearing and Regular Meeting of February 7, 1990. The
motion passed unanimously, with Commissioners Goldspiel, Krug and Rosenston
abstaining.
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COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Goldspiel noted there will be a meeting on April 5, 1990 at the
Wheeling Village Hall of the Wisconsin Central Task Force responsible for
considering bringing commuter service to the Wisconsin Central Line to discuss
station sites.
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Commissioner Krug attended the Village Board meeting of March 19, 1990, at
which the following were discussed:
1) Plan Commission consideration of increased density on the Carlyle
site; and
2) A signal on Buffalo Grove Road for the entrance to the Arlington
Club development and one for Cambridge on the Lake.
Trustee Marienthal waspresent and explained Board discussion regarding the
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Carlyle development. Brief discussion followed.
CHECKER SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER
Chairman Sheldon called for a poll of those in favor of deeding the additional
18i ft. in fee simple to the residents. The vote was as follows:
AYES: Krug, Howard, Rubin, Rosenston, Charlette
NAYES: Goldspiel, Braiman
ABSENT: Rhodes
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel, to recommend
to the Village Board approval of the Preliminary Plan in the B-3 (Planned
Business Center) District for the 6.4-acre tract at the northwest corner of
Buffalo Grove Road and Checker Road, commonly referred to as the Checker Square
Shopping Center, with the following variation: ZONING ORDINANCE - Section
17.44.040.D.3 (to allow a building setback of 36.5 ft. , instead of 55 ft. as
required, from a residential property line) , subject to:
1) The third lane going in on Checker Drive as depicted on the exhibits
other than for the three lanes;
2) The driveway on Buffalo Grove Road be narrowed to one lane in each
direction and designed in accordance with conversations with Village
staff;
3) The shopping center owner causing all landscaping contractor
guarantees to transfer to the benefit of the property owners, such
guarantees to last for a period of at least one year; and
4) All outlots, regardless of whether special use or not, coming before
the Plan Commission for review and approval.
In discussion, Commissioner Krug asked about the location and number of
dumpsters. Mr. Gold explained they will be recessed into the wall of the
building lines and there will be three main dumpsters in centralized areas to
be used by all occupants.
Commissioner Rubin noted that any landscaping guarantees are subject as well to
certain maintenance by the property owners. Commissioner Krug then asked if
the residents would have the same exemption as developers to watering
restrictions in the event of drought.
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The motion failed 3 to 4, with the following vote:
AYES: Krug, Rosenston, Charlette
NAYES: Goldspiel, Howard, Braiman, Rubin
ABSENT: Rhodes
Commissioner Goldspiel stated his vote was not against the layout of the plan
but based on his feeling that the criteria for a special use had not been met
and the reduction of the distance between the residential and commercial would
be undesirable. Commissioner Howard indicated she does not approve of the
outlots. Commissioner Braiman stated he feels they have an obligation to
comply with the statutes and a variation is not, therefore, warranted, and
additionally they have failed to respond to requests to develop a creative
design for the center. Commissioner Rubin concurred. Commissioner Charlette
states his vote is based on the favorable response by the residents.
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel to recommend to
the Village Board approval of the Preliminary Plan in the B-3 (Planned Business
Center) District for the 6.4-acre tract on the northwest corner of Buffalo
Grove Road and Checker Road, commonly referred to as the Checker Square
Shopping Center, subject to the following:
1) The third lane going in on Checker Drive as depicted on the exhibits
other than for the three lanes;
2) The driveway on Buffalo Grove Road be designed for one lane in each
direction and be designed in accordance with conversations with Village
staff;
3) The shopping center owner causing all landscaping contractor
guarantees to transfer to the benefit of the property owners, such
guarantees to last for a period of at least one year; and
4) All outlots, regardless of whether a special use or not, coming
before the Plan Commission for review and approval.
In discussion, it was clarified that title would not be conveyed to the
homeowners but would be treated as a perpetual easement to be maintained by the
residents, which Mr. Edelstein indicated would be acceptable to the residents.
Commissioner Goldspiel indicated he would prefer the fence be removed from the
top of the berm, but would not predicate his vote on that requirement.
Commissioner Rosenston expressed concern with establishing restrictions without
knowing insurance limitations and liabilities on the issue of an easement as
opposed to deeded land.
The motion failed 3 to 4, with the following vote:
AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Charlette
NAYES: Howard, Braiman, Rubin, Rosenston
ABSENT: Rhodes
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Braiman, to reconsider
the original motion granting the requested variation to the Zoning Ordinance
and thereby allowing deeding of the 18i ft. to the residents.
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Commissioner Rubin stated his reason for reconsideration is that he feels
because the center is zoned commercial, it should be developed and because the
reason the first motion did not pass was based on the issue of deeding over the
property vs. granting an easement, this should not stand in the way of
development.
The motion passed 5 to 2, with the following vote:
AYES: Krug, Howard, Rubin, Rosenston, Charlette
NAYES: Goldspiel, Braiman
ABSENT: Rhodes
PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - BUILDING CONNECTORS
Mr. Pfeil stated that the only comments from staff regarding the proposed
amendment were made by the Director of Building and Zoning that reference to
the connector being elevated was too restrictive and should be eliminated or
replaced with language allowing placement below grade, at grade or above grade.
Mr. Pfeil also stated the Fire Department has no problem with the concept as
long as clearances are acceptable.
Commissioner Braiman asked about the ability to include indication for location
above, at or below grade as a condition on a special use.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked what building codes were applicable to such
connectors to ensure that they are safe. Mr. Pfeil explained any review or
approval by the Plan Commission would be subject to meeting all applicable
building, zoning and fire requirements and code review.
Chairman Sheldon asked if existing one-story buildings could now be connected
by walkways. Commissioner Goldspiel indicated a ground level connector could
create a long continuous building.
Commissioner Krug suggested it would be necessary to provide a definition of
the term "building connector" in the zoning code.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated it would be necessary to find a way to restrict
the use to passageway purposes only. Mr. Raysa said restrictions could be
imposed in the establishment of a special use. Commissioner Goldspiel
indicated he feels it is imperative to have a statement of the intent or
purpose for such connectors.
In discussing the need for a definition of the term, it was suggested it be
referred to as a passageway. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested it be indicated
as intended to preserve a visual separation between buildings either by
elevation, by subway or by architectural treatments.
Brief discussion followed regarding such connectors in other cities or
villages.
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LANDIS AND GYR POWERS, 900 and 1000 Deerfield Parkway
Mr. Freedman explained that in this circumstance there are two buildings with
common users but different ownerships and due to many circumstances there is no
way to combine ownership. In the event of common ownership, they could
establish one piece of property with no lot lines and therefore no setback
requirements, but not in this instance. He stated in discussion with staff it
was suggested a special use would be the most appropriate means for imposing
whatever criteria was deemed necessary.
Mr. Freedman indicated that because they have time constraints, they are
requesting the Plan Commission amend their zoning text to establish a building
connector as a special use and then consider that special use for this
petitioner.
Mr. Mark Christensen explained that Landis and Gyr is currently the tenant of a
190,000 sq. ft. building. Their business has expanded and they have entered
into a lease in the building next door and desire a special passage for their
employees between the buildings to connect the second floors of both buildings.
He stated the purpose was strictly for pedestrian traffic between the
buildings.
Commissioner Rubin expressed concern regarding subsequent owners or tenants who
may not want this connection. Mr. Christensen stated at any future time the
structure could be taken down or access cut off.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked if the structure is pre-fabricated. Mr.
Christensen stated it is precast concrete with precast panels and a dome of a
standard design like that used at the Rosemont Expo Center.
Commissioner Goldspiel inquired about security. Mr. Christensen indicated
Landis and Gyr would be totally responsible for security and would be using a
closed-circuit TV system. He stated there would be no access to the walkway
itself other than through the buildings.
In response to comments from Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Christensen indicated
that in meetings with staff it was determined that the structure as it is now
designed does meet Village codes.
Discussion followed with Mr. Raysa regarding the manner in which to proceed for
review without an existing ordinance to cover any approval. It was suggested
both this review and any related text amendments remain on the same agenda
together so that review and approval could be expedited.
CHERBOURG UNIT 2, NO. 57, Plat of Resubdivision
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston, to
recommend to the Village Board approval of the Plat of Subdivision for
Cherbourg Unit 2, Resubdivision No. 57, dated 3/14/90.
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Commissioner Goldspiel asked if staff had reviewed the plan for conformity with
the approved plan and technical accuracy. Mr. Pfeil advised the Village
Engineer had reviewed the plat and found it to comply with the Preliminary Plan
and recommends approval.
All Commissioners were in favor, and the motion passed unanimously.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT - None
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE - None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rosenston, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel, and
unanimously carried, to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the
meeting at 10:39 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
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ROSEMARY ALLE 7Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
BARBARA SHELDON, Chairman
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